How can we encourage our kids to go to temple more?

[Nara]

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.....My gurus had told me this once...whether the owl wants light or not,light exists..........,i have faith in God.

Saumya, I second K's suggestion. If you break your posts down to small/medium size paragraphs separated by a blank line it would help old fogies like me to read without getting lost.

BTW, we had a long and spirited discussion of this very topic in a thread called "God Exists" only a few months back. That thread made a record of sorts by attracting huge number of responses in very short order. Perhaps you can browse it if you have the time and inclination.

Cheers!

 

[ShivKC]

its not working for me...i tried putting in the code of html format also..my post is actually spaced out...its not coming in the final post after i submit reply..

which browser you are using?
OR
are you posting this through your mobile phone browser?

 

[Soumya Ramasubramanian]

which browser you are using?ORare you posting this through your mobile phone browser?

mobile phone browser.

 

[Soumya Ramasubramanian]

Test message..GODISNOWHEREaccording to you is itGOD IS NOWHEREor is itGOD IS NOW HERE?

 

[Soumya Ramasubramanian]

all attempts unsuccessful..I'll post part by part..that's a better option i guess.

 

[B.Krishnamurthy]

Dear Thiru.Yamaka,
I refer to your post no422 and similar posts made earlier in this Forum.
You have an athiest companion by name.Shri.Natarajan from Canada.He also makes similar queries in another forum.
Dr.R.Krishnan has given his remarks to Shri.Natarajan which I am quoting here
for your kind information.

Hi!
Your questions are not new and they are age old.Millions have asked these questions
and millions will be asking these questions in future.

Have You an explanation for such happenings, if we admit GOD is not there?

Each one find his answers and there is no imposing of views because the subject is such.

All I can say is that You have a long way to go.
Regards,
Dr.R.Krishnan

 

[Yamaka]

Dear Thiru.Yamaka,
I refer to your post no422 and similar posts made earlier in this Forum.
You have an athiest companion by name.Shri.Natarajan from Canada.He also makes similar queries in another forum.
Dr.R.Krishnan has given his remarks to Shri.Natarajan which I am quoting here
for your kind information.

Hi!
Your questions are not new and they are age old.Millions have asked these questions
and millions will be asking these questions in future.

Have You an explanation for such happenings, if we admit GOD is not there?

Each one find his answers and there is no imposing of views because the subject is such.

All I can say is that You have a long way to go.
Regards,
Dr.R.Krishnan

Dear Krish Sir:

You are like my father, for whom TRADITION bound God & Religion is foremost in life, whether or not it makes any sense logically.

That's why it's called FAITH or Belief...

My post 422 is a question put forth to ALL the People of Faith all the time.

You and your other friend believe nothing has changed! I disagree.

In the last 100 years, when Science Engineering & Technology took root in every aspects of our life, the choke-hold of God & Religion and its relevance is slowly and steadily loosening, and the Society is getting better everyday.

More and more Yamakas are marching towards their life w/o the IDEA OF GOD but with determination and hard work equipped with RATIONALITY as the guiding principle.

Sir, the ice is melting w/o your knowledge!

Millions of strict Theists are converting themselves to Agno-Theists, and they now have the guts to ask basic questions like "Is Janma Poorva Karma be really TRUE? Can there be any life after death at all?"

There are about 2.5 billion people now who don't think of God & Religion and they never spend a minute in prayers, poojas and bhajans... and most of them ARE living a happy comfortable life..

I agree more needs to be done... For the INERTIA is too high because God & Religion ruled the world for nearly 10,000 years with its iron fist.

Dear Krish Sir: Believe me, the CHANGE is happening... look around you in CA...

More later..

 

[KRS]

Dear Sri Yamaka,

Okay here is my next simple question, which is exactly what you suggested.

What are the 'natural' forces? Are they the source(s) of Creation or the results of Creation?

Regards,
KRS

Dear KRS:

I am from a small forgotten village in Ramanathapuram taluk and my wife is from Trichy, the cultural Mecca!

As a Naturalist and a professional Scientist, I can answer you like this "Who has the responsibility of creating and maintaining this Universe we live in is the Forces of Nature".

Oh.. that's not precise, you may say..then ask me to define Nature... and the Q&A continues.

One thing I can say for sure, "God" as described in the Holy Books of Vedas/Scriptures, Bible and Koran is truly NON-EXISTENT".

These Holy Books are written by MEN.. and their brain child is the IDEA of GOD and HIS properties or characters.

The world we live in was not created AS IS by any GOD about 5000 years ago in a week in the month of October, as the Old Testament claims, and many people believe so...

This world is the product of Chemical and Biological Evolution that started billions of years ago...

Now, I stop here.

I want you to ask more simple questions.

Regards

Y

(Dear KRS, can you please drop "Ji" out when you call me, because I am not used to such calling... I call only Mahatma as Gandhiji. )

 

[KRS]

Dear Sri Kunjuppu Ji,

Sri Y is correct. Trichy boasts beautiful old temples, in addition to a historical church and a mosque. It is on Cauvary delta, near a stone's throw away from the cultural center of TN, at least from our community's view point.

Name me any serious Tamil artist (be it in drama/carnatic music/ dance) emanating from that cultural wasteland - Chennai, with a prefix to their name 'Madras'. But i can point several folks witgh the prefix 'Trichy' who are real artists.

The only fame Chennai has that is it's high nosed chic culture and it's Coovum, which makes those high noses to be covered! Have I insulted Chennai enough?

Seriously sir, as a vegetarian, you would love the vegetables (I just brought back some fresh green pepper (small milagu) pickle and mahali kizhangu from there). Please do not knock the temple city.

By the way, it is the 'Mecca', but then I will allow you to call Chennai as 'Medina'.

Regards,
KRS

Y,

your post #411

tiruchi THE cultural mecca? enna sir ippadi kid panreeha?

much as i loathe the attitude of the sabha and the sabha goers, is not chennai the venue of all tamil based culture - not just carnatic music or bharatanatyam, but since DMK, also has not patronage of our folk arts given more appreciation and limelight?

i very much question some other kind member here, mentioning the wonderful effects of kaveri thanni, but i think, for most carnatic concerts tasmac thanni helps in improving the job. no?

i dont mind tiruch being addressed as a cultural centre, but 'THE cultural mecca'...have seriuos doubts about that, notwithstanding mrs Y hails from there

 

[anushagn]

Dear Anu:

Nice post.. very many Believers have said the same thing.

1. I believe for Einstein and many other scientists RATIONAL thinking, hypothesis making and Experimentation and Inference is the way of their life... they all believe in the awesome power of NATURE.

2. Why I said God is a Super Natural Man: According to Holy Koran "I created man in my IMAGE" God says. "I created women from his rib, to serve him".

Similar passages you may find in Vedas and Bible.

3. Only convincing idea I get about God & Religion is the HOPE, which I talked about in my post to dear Shiv above.

Keep writing... nice point of view from an younger generation...

Take care.



ps. Divinity etc are marketing techniques by Religious Groups! Let them ask the question "Why did God create Abject Poverty among HIS devotees: About a billion people in India live in unspeakable poverty, while they worship HIM constantly?"

Convincing idea? I din convince you.. I dint even try to convince you..

Why should i? U asked me something and i just spoke my heart..
It is not necessary that you must accept it..
I dont expect such things..

I will live in this earth only if i believe that iam living..
Sameway, GOD exists for those who believe him..
That's enough..


Belief should not come or be with us expecting things..
A true Belief will say 1ly thanks for the things given and doesnot ask 4 anything..

 

[Yamaka]

Dear Sri Yamaka,

Okay here is my next simple question, which is exactly what you suggested.

What are the 'natural' forces? Are they the source(s) of Creation or the results of Creation?

Regards,
KRS

Dear KRS:

1. Forces like gravity are Natural Forces or Nature's Forces. Ionic bonds, covalent bonds and hydrogen bonds are similar examples.

2. I am not an Astro-physicist. I believe Forces of Nature when a critical point is reached gave rise to Big Bang, and the Universe was created.

I am sure there are hundreds of Scientists who specialize in Big Bang Theory have plenty to say about it...

3. Most professional Scientists would readily admit that we don't know billion things, as yet... but we have a PROCESS set in motion: Rational, logical approach by hypothesis testing and experimentation.

We have to conduct billions of experiments to understand everything in the Universe.

As the saying goes, "Kattrathu Kai Man Alavu... Kallalathu Vulga Alavu -- what we know is very small comparing to the world of unknown things".

Wait & watch.

Regards

Y

 

[Yamaka]

Convincing idea? I din convince you.. I dint even try to convince you..

Why should i? U asked me something and i just spoke my heart..
It is not necessary that you must accept it..
I dont expect such things..

I will live in this earth only if i believe that iam living..
Sameway, GOD exists for those who believe him..
That's enough..


Belief should not come or be with us expecting things..
A true Belief will say 1ly thanks for the things given and doesnot ask 4 anything..

Hi Anu:

Nice reply.

I have a broader philosophical question to you and Soumya - both I believe are Engineering Majors or Professionals:

1. You both are going to be Professionals of Science, Engineering and Technology - a discipline that REQUIRES logical, rational thinking to understand and apply the concepts.

You will be spending a good part of your daily life in your engineering profession thinking logically (at least about 12 h a day)

2. But you agree to readily accept a Belief or a Faith (which I say is a non-logical or non-rational thinking) which would
dictate your behavior long term.

Therefore, I hypothesize that your psyche is internally drawn into conflicts, and may affect your productivity.

Is this possible? Why not?

You may ignore to answer this saying whatever reasons you deem appropriate!

Take care.

 

[guruvayurappan]

dear krishnamurthy sir !
you are absolutely correct . the arqument for and aginst were ,is and will be there.It is like lavany for kaman pandikai (yerintha katchi and yeratha katchi).we must take the good aspect out of the both discussions.
cheers

guruvayurappan

 

[guruvayurappan]

dear y !
for nature you have said " I am not an Astro-physicist. I believe Forces of Nature when a critical point is reached gave rise to Big Bang, and the Universe was created ". as we can not create anything from nothing,you must accept that something is already exists -that is god

 

[Yamaka]

Dear Guru: Ref post 439

1. As I have said before I don't have any problem accepting Nature as God, since I am a Naturalist.

2. If you accept that then you must relinquish all the prayers, poojas and bhajans in praise of that Nature God, which will not pay any attention whatsoever to the calls or requests you make.

3. In reality, Nature God is not what the Holy Books of Vedas, Bible and Koran preach. Their God is the Super Human-Like God who can listen to your prayers AND pay heed.

4. Even some Theists believe that Man created Religions. Which is historically TRUE. To them I say, only those Religions CREATED their respective GODs of such properties and behavior... therefore, MAN created the Gods.

I don't worship that Man-made Gods, like the Pan-Theistic Ishwara, Allah or Jesus!

I obey Nature, but don't worship it... because it is FUTILE.


Cheers.

 

[ShivKC]

Dear KRS:

1. Forces like gravity are Natural Forces or Nature's Forces. Ionic bonds, covalent bonds and hydrogen bonds are similar examples.

2. I am not an Astro-physicist. I believe Forces of Nature when a critical point is reached gave rise to Big Bang, and the Universe was created.

I am sure there are hundreds of Scientists who specialize in Big Bang Theory have plenty to say about it...

3. Most professional Scientists would readily admit that we don't know billion things, as yet... but we have a PROCESS set in motion: Rational, logical approach by hypothesis testing and experimentation.

We have to conduct billions of experiments to understand everything in the Universe.

As the saying goes, "Kattrathu Kai Man Alavu... Kallalathu Vulga Alavu -- what we know is very small comparing to the world of unknown things".

Wait & watch.

Regards

Y

Yams, the question posed to you by KRS was philosophical one, and your response was no way near to that, though you may right in your angle.

the problem here is, both the views havent found a common ground, and i know, there is a great deal of discussion could be made, with that simple looking but wonderful philosophical question of KRS.. i have also asked the same kind, to you many a times. may be, its difficult for you to understand the depth of that question , from KRS..

as you said, which applies to you too..."Kattrathu Kai Man Alavu.... doesnt matter even if its genetics/biochemistry/astrophysics!!

 

[guruvayurappan]

dear y !
in olden days the nature -sun,fire.and rain were worshiped as god and gradually dif form of god(man,woman and child0were introduced according to his taste and local culture and religion were formed in line with various school of thoughts.you are clear in your thoughts and hence no confusion about prayer and GOD which is not acceptable to many who are brought up in religious way.
when we are not in trouble we are not thinking of god.most people think of GOD when suffering.
he is in a state of ethai tindral pittam telyum and this state is exploited by those dishonest men in the name of GOD
cheers
guruvayurappan

 

[Yamaka]

Yams, the question posed to you by KRS was philosophical one, and your response was no way near to that, though you may right in your angle.

the problem here is, both the views havent found a common ground, and i know, there is a great deal of discussion could be made, with that simple looking but wonderful philosophical question of KRS.. i have also asked the same kind, to you many a times. may be, its difficult for you to understand the depth of that question , from KRS..

as you said, which applies to you too..."Kattrathu Kai Man Alavu.... doesnt matter even if its genetics/biochemistry/astrophysics!!

Dear Shiv:

What all I am saying this is: If "All the Unknowns" = God or All Forces in Nature = God, then I don't have any problem. As a Naturalist I fully agree and abide by it.

Then, I say that God will not hear or accept the calls and requests of hapless humans who indulge in hours of prayers, poojas and bhajans everyday... because these people mostly follow the Gods prescribed in the Holy Books of Vedas/Scriptures, Bible or Koran.

This is the idea that I have been trying to communicate, and observe in my life.

Cheers.

 

[Yamaka]

dear y !
in olden days the nature -sun,fire.and rain were worshiped as god and gradually dif form of god(man,woman and child0were introduced according to his taste and local culture and religion were formed in line with various school of thoughts.you are clear in your thoughts and hence no confusion about prayer and GOD which is not acceptable to many who are brought up in religious way.
when we are not in trouble we are not thinking of god.most people think of GOD when suffering.
he is in a state of ethai tindral pittam telyum and this state is exploited by those dishonest men in the name of GOD
cheers
guruvayurappan

Dear Guru:

I hear you.

To tell you the truth, Sun is the ultimate source of energy (although we have fossil fuels, geothermal energy etc) for all activities in this world. Sun will NEVER be exhausted. One may think Sun is the Benevolent God - it has no bias or prejudice and if I worship IT, I will not get any favors.

In a sense I am a strong Believer in Sun God (I never worship IT, knowing it is futile). I just admire IT's Benevolence.

Coming to your "when we are thinking of God when suffering": Here is the folly, I believe. Our sufferings will never be solved by our prayers to the God alone.. only People can solve for themselves.

It's a Blind Faith that the God can solve the problem for us... this view of mine brings to the most practical aspect of this Faith and it's unintended consequences:

Nearly a billion people in India are in abject poverty..most are devotees of some God (Ishwara, Allah or Jesus).. these people strongly believe that God has created them like this for whatever reason (the Janma Poorva Karma or the like), and only God can solve their problems of abject poverty.

This idea is strongly embedded in their psyche... they keep on suffering in the name of that (non-existent) God, IMO.

This is the so-called FATALISM, which is the root cause of backwardness in India and other poor countries, I contend.

These people must take charge of their lives: improve their education, their skills and control the size of their family, work hard and harder to make a decent living, I believe.

More later.

 

[B.Krishnamurthy]

Dear Thiru.Yamaka,
You have correctly said (in your post.444)in a nutshell what Bhagvad Gita preaches.
No religious Scriptures preach that followers should remain idle and Lazy.
Everyone is required to work and indulge in some useful activity
Every person is required to take action without waiting for the result.
"Divine Power" is similar to electricity which does not differentiate whether you are a Believer or a Non-Believer.If you have the right apparatus in good shape,you get the maximum benefit of electricity.If your apparatus is defective,You do not get the desired benefit.So,Even if YOU are a non-Believer,You do get the benefit of 'Divine Power' but not to the optimum level.

In Physics you might have read about "resonance"Similarly you can hear a particular
TV program or listen to a specific Radio Station only if you visit that TV channel or tune a particular Radio Station.
I read recently that Swami Vivekananda visited a "Devi Shrine" in Kashmir which was destroyed by persons following a different Faith.Swami was very much upset
and was telling to himself that he would not have spared those persons who destroyed the temple had he been present during that incident.Devi appeared before him and asked the Swami whether' The Devi' is to protect him or he has to protect the 'Devi'.
The Swami realized his limitations.

You may be very successful by following your model.However,

as I said in my earlier post,You have to go a long way to understand and appreciate
what myself and other Believers write in this thread.

 

[Yamaka]

Dear Thiru.Yamaka,
You have correctly said (in your post.444)in a nutshell what Bhagvad Gita preaches.
No religious Scriptures preach that followers should remain idle and Lazy.
Everyone is required to work and indulge in some useful activity
Every person is required to take action without waiting for the result.
"Divine Power" is similar to electricity which does not differentiate whether you are a Believer or a Non-Believer.If you have the right apparatus in good shape,you get the maximum benefit of electricity.If your apparatus is defective,You do not get the desired benefit.So,Even if YOU are a non-Believer,You do get the benefit of 'Divine Power' but not to the optimum level.

In Physics you might have read about "resonance"Similarly you can hear a particular
TV program or listen to a specific Radio Station only if you visit that TV channel or tune a particular Radio Station.
I read recently that Swami Vivekananda visited a "Devi Shrine" in Kashmir which was destroyed by persons following a different Faith.Swami was very much upset
and was telling to himself that he would not have spared those persons who destroyed the temple had he been present during that incident.Devi appeared before him and asked the Swami whether' The Devi' is to protect him or he has to protect the 'Devi'.
The Swami realized his limitations.

You may be very successful by following your model.However,

as I said in my earlier post,You have to go a long way to understand and appreciate
what myself and other Believers write in this thread.

Dear Krish Sir:

What I expect from you and other Believers and People of Faith is to address the THREE points I always raise in my posts ( I presume these three questions will be asked by youngsters growing up in large cities, thus relevant to this particular Thread):

1. Is their REALLY a Super-Natural Agent (possibly in the form of a Super Human Image, as the Holy Books claim) controlling ALL activities of ALL living beings, including humans and the inanimate objects ALL the time?

2. Can Janma Poorva Karma be possible - invoking Rebirth and Reincarnation of the Soul?

3. Can all this prayer, pooja and bhajans give any LONG TERM benefit? If they do, who listens and how the prayers can come true to the benefits of the worshipers?

Most of you just dance around the issue and come up with "anecdotes" of "Devi appeared before SV!"

Did that Devi or someone else appear before you, anytime in your life? If not, why not?

Why doesn't the Ishta Deva appear before the devotee and give personal blessings and benefits?

4. You bring stories from Science Engineering & Technology to bolster your understanding of the (non-existent) God! That's not convincing to any Secular Thinkers.

5. Somewhere else you wrote, "I have not heard of the word Secular, anytime in my life"! This is unbelievable to me.

You are well read person.. you must have read that "India has a Secular Constitution like most other Liberal Democracies (except Britain)" or "BJP calls Congress as "Pseudo-Secularists" etc.

6. Some of you - the Believers - are successful because you did BOTH praying AND working hard to enhance your skills. I bet you would have reached the same success had you dropped praying in your daily schedule because you all have what it takes to succeed: Skills and Hard work.

That's what I have. And I don't need to pray to any God for anything in the past 40 years! That's my simple logic.

To conclude, Who needs any Divine Power?

Only for those who bound to Tradition and/or Fear and/or Superstition.

More later...

 

[KRS]

Dear Sri Yamaka,

I used to be a Physicist before my corporate life. Just to provide some context.

Let me respond:

1. Almost everyone (there are some recent developments by Hawkings that deviates from this, but only with a substitute theory that many universes exist and the big bang may be a product, but then this goes back to the question of how those universes come in to being and other cumbersome questions) agree now that the 'big bang' started with an event from a singular sub atomic entity. It is also agreed that the space time continuum started with the event. So the question is what 'natural force' is responsible for this event and what existed before the bang? The problem in saying that it was a 'natural force' is that nature and the laws of cause and effect did not exist then, because space and time which produce cause and effect did not exist. So, one can not call it 'natural' as we understand the term. We can call that force 'super natural', 'extra natural', 'deity' as St. Francis, the intellectual theologian of Christianity called it. We call it 'God'.

2. Science can not explain 'why', it can say 'how'. Well we know from science that there is gravitational pull, but it can not explain, why there is such a pull. All the 'why's even if explained by science, will always ultimately bump in to the ultimate question - what existed or what caused the 'big bang'. There are couple of reasons for this. First there is nothing left in evidence of what existed before the bang, because the physical world started then and also by a well known system theory one can not understand what lies outside of a closed system, if one is part of that system. We are a part and parcel of a closed system called a Universe or several Universes.

Let me stop here and ask your input. If you agree with my thesis above, I will foray in to the role of philosophy and religion in our lives.

Regards,
KRS

Dear KRS:

1. Forces like gravity are Natural Forces or Nature's Forces. Ionic bonds, covalent bonds and hydrogen bonds are similar examples.

2. I am not an Astro-physicist. I believe Forces of Nature when a critical point is reached gave rise to Big Bang, and the Universe was created.

I am sure there are hundreds of Scientists who specialize in Big Bang Theory have plenty to say about it...

3. Most professional Scientists would readily admit that we don't know billion things, as yet... but we have a PROCESS set in motion: Rational, logical approach by hypothesis testing and experimentation.

We have to conduct billions of experiments to understand everything in the Universe.

As the saying goes, "Kattrathu Kai Man Alavu... Kallalathu Vulga Alavu -- what we know is very small comparing to the world of unknown things".

Wait & watch.

Regards

Y

 

[happyhindu]

Folks,

Did the ancient Hindus beleive in the existence of God?

Please see these two videos (must watch) :

1) Hindu Concept of the Beginning and End of Universe.flv - YouTube

2) CarlSagan-Cosmos.mp4 - YouTube

 

[Yamaka]

Dear Sri Yamaka,

I used to be a Physicist before my corporate life. Just to provide some context.

Let me respond:

1. Almost everyone (there are some recent developments by Hawkings that deviates from this, but only with a substitute theory that many universes exist and the big bang may be a product, but then this goes back to the question of how those universes come in to being and other cumbersome questions) agree now that the 'big bang' started with an event from a singular sub atomic entity. It is also agreed that the space time continuum started with the event. So the question is what 'natural force' is responsible for this event and what existed before the bang? The problem in saying that it was a 'natural force' is that nature and the laws of cause and effect did not exist then, because space and time which produce cause and effect did not exist. So, one can not call it 'natural' as we understand the term. We can call that force 'super natural', 'extra natural', 'deity' as St. Francis, the intellectual theologian of Christianity called it. We call it 'God'.

2. Science can not explain 'why', it can say 'how'. Well we know from science that there is gravitational pull, but it can not explain, why there is such a pull. All the 'why's even if explained by science, will always ultimately bump in to the ultimate question - what existed or what caused the 'big bang'. There are couple of reasons for this. First there is nothing left in evidence of what existed before the bang, because the physical world started then and also by a well known system theory one can not understand what lies outside of a closed system, if one is part of that system. We are a part and parcel of a closed system called a Universe or several Universes.

Let me stop here and ask your input. If you agree with my thesis above, I will foray in to the role of philosophy and religion in our lives.

Regards,
KRS

Dear KRS:

1. Fine.. you may call Nature or Forces of Nature as God. I have no problem.

2. Science Engineering & Technology (SET) comprehensively can explain both "why" and "how" of events or various phenomena.

As I said earlier, the explanations may not be complete with the existing knowledge - but by the PROCESS of scientific experimentation we can get complete answers as to WHY and HOW..in time.

My assumption is you are a Theist following Vedas (a TB from Trichy). Vedic Teachings are the Basis of your Faith.

With that assumption, let me ask you

a. Do you know Sanskrit to be able to read and understand the original Vedas/Scriptures? This would remove the confusions generated by the Commentaries and Explanations made by various interpretation of the text, as many scholars here have said that every word of Sanskrit has multiple meanings, and unless the reader is well versed in the language, the real INTENT of the text, as written by the author(s) will be totally lost.

b. Accepting the definition that the Forces of Nature is the God, do you think that prayers, poojas and bhajans have any long term benefits to the worshiper? Granted, they can give some psychological solace SHORT TERM - at the time of the prayers etc to the worshiper.

If you believe they have long term benefits, please explain HOW such benefits come about.. Will you say the Forces of Nature somehow listen to the calls of the worshiper, and they dole out benefits to them? How is this possible at all?

c. Do you believe in the Janma Poorva Karma, Rebirth and Reincarnation of the Soul, as per the Beliefs in Hinduism?

Regards

Y

ps. My answers to the above questions: I don't know Aramic, Arabic or Sanskrit.. I have read only the translations, Commentaries and Explanations of Holy Books in English or Tamil. I am negative on qn b and c. Thus, I am an Atheist.

 

[KRS]

Dear Sri Yamaka Ji,

Okay, we agree on your first point.

But before going further. your point #2, it does not exactly address my point #2. On what basis you are asserting that S&T can explain the 'why', while I explained two reasons why it can not be? What is your rational argument against my assertions to refute this hypothesis, based on logic? Is your belief that science will be able to answer the question on the 'big' issue based on 'faith' in science?

I am a theist. But not because I am a TB from Trichy. I will surprise you on this account, because I do not fit in to the traditional role of a conservative TB as is assumed by you. But again, you are jumping the gun. Let us go step by step in our discussions. Let me wait for your response to my above question.

Regards,
KRS