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How to arrest the slide in TB numbers

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upper middle class VESPA SCOOTER......middle classs BICYCLE...lower class even NADARAJA.....means just walking to beach...

Neatly summed up . Let us not confuse the life style of people belonging to the Upper Middle Class , Middle Class , Lower Class even if they all happen to be TBs and make it a uniform yardstick for all TBs either in the past or in the present . Also TB children whose parents are Government Employees , Bank Employees , Business men , MNC employees , NRIs , Agriculturists , Army people have different lifestyle ir-respective of their networth ( i.e an Agriculturist may have a bigger networth than an MNC employee but their children will have different lifestyles ) .I know of many Rich TBs who strictly follow tradition ( they are usually followers of Kanchi , Sringer Mutts ) and never eat outside and I know of ordinary TBs who do not mind spending eating in Elite and Five Star Restaurants .

So in conclusion : Do not put all TBs in one catgeory and pass comments on them ( for or against ) .Take into account their financial status , their educational background , their life style and their value system before making a single rule for all .
 
There was no real dating in our marriage. Communication initially was through internet and one meeting. Nowadays one sees how much a person is conforming to norm. Young people have no inclination for anything deviating from the norm. Everything has a norm. The behavior has to conform to a norm. Even personal likings and dislikes have a norm. It does take a talent to imitate the norm too and the good imitators are the most "successful" ones.
 
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So in conclusion : Do not put all TBs in one catgeory and pass comments on them ( for or against ) .Take into account their financial status , their educational background , their life style and their value system before making a single rule for all .
:thumb: Given!!!
 
There was no real dating in our marriage. Communication initially was through internet and one meeting. Nowadays one sees how much a person is conforming to norm. Young people have no inclination for anything deviating from the norm. Everything has a norm. The behavior has to conform to a norm. Even personal likings and dislikes have a norm. It does take a talent to imitate the norm too and the good imitators are the most "successful" ones.

Dear Sravna,

You clearly havent fallen in love!LOL
 
I was 19plus He was 25 Doctor working in Medical college Tanjore No emails or cell phones You should know I took t he first step Wrote an lnland asking to come to Madras the next week and meet me in the hostel We went for a movie Aradhana and I had to explain every scene he doesnt understand Hindi Next day to Mahapaliuram! After that he.was in Madras every week end! You see boys didnot have the drive even then!


Dear JJ Ji,

Nice to read your LOVVU story...keep it coming on.

You are the best!
 
If you have read my post I have mentioned the fact that none of the Girls were interested in marrying him and all his poposals were declined for the reasons mentioned and he has to confront the hard reality of attending the marraige of each of the Girls whom he flirted earlier and wondering what went wrong . He is now very misreable that he is neither getting married nor ending up in a decent job . Actually this chap watches lot of movies and he was emulating the various Bollywood and Tollywood heores ( have u ever seen a Indian Hero going for job etc , they may be poor car drivers , mechanics etc but flirt with Rich girls and finally end up marrying them overcoming all odds ) and he too believed that he could be such a Hero only to find that reel life and real life are different .

Dear Sir,

I read your post...some who go on dates do not have intention of getting married.

I feel he did not really flirt with these girls in the real sense if he was actually invited for their marriages.

That means it was just friendship and not really anything beyond that..no girl in her right frame of mind would invite an ex boyfriend for her wedding.
 
Whole world loves a lover -tanjore brahmins can also be lovers sometimes

Yes....a romantic hero is loved more than an action hero.

Who does not love a lover?

Even God is the Supreme Lover for us humans.

Everything is Madhuram in Love.

Bhakti Marg too is LOVE.

I guess Iyengars should make the best TB lovers then!LOL
 
Yes....a romantic hero is loved more than an action hero.

Who does not love a lover?

Even God is the Supreme Lover for us humans.

Everything is Madhuram in Love.

Bhakti Marg too is LOVE.

I guess Iyengars should make the best TB lovers then!LOL
If your guess is correct , iyers will not appreciate the competition from iyengars.
 
TKSji
we are an open forum. Pl feel free to say more.

I really think dating is here to stay for tamil brahmins.

We need to facilitate it .

By forcing parents choices on children , we are probably damaging their lives.

Sri Krish44,


Dating in the context of getting to know someone for compatibility for marriage is fine provided it is for a limited time and does not involve any touching Or running around trees singing a song ..

The above is hard to achieve because most dating in the world is not approache with the goal of getting married.

In a culture of today (worldwide) promoted by disposable plastics, relationships are also viewed as disposable. A disposable cup is good for one time use or may be a few times. It goes to the trash soon after.

Marriages, live in arrangements, dating etc also have become means to practice disposable culture.

There are youngsters who when well taught well (about goals of life as in Varnashrama) have resisted such a culture. I was applauding them.
 
Probably a lot of our TB folk too need to cultivate some maturity and understanding before developing a worldview. The puritan TB glass can only offer a parochial view and inculcate some bigotry.

The one who is immature thinks others are immature :-) such is life!
 
Sri Krish44,


Dating in the context of getting to know someone for compatibility for marriage is fine provided it is for a limited time and does not involve any touching Or running around trees singing a song ..

The above is hard to achieve because most dating in the world is not approache with the goal of getting married.

In a culture of today (worldwide) promoted by disposable plastics, relationships are also viewed as disposable. A disposable cup is good for one time use or may be a few times. It goes to the trash soon after.

Marriages, live in arrangements, dating etc also have become means to practice disposable culture.

There are youngsters who when well taught well (about goals of life as in Varnashrama) have resisted such a culture. I was applauding them.
No boy and girl date each other to run around trees and sing songs.

Nor would any girl in india allow a boy to touch her inappropriately if she is on a first date.

Unless both become comfortable with each other after a few dates and see a good possibility of getting engaged to marry afterwards they might allow some minor

liberties. Most realise in two meetings or so whether they should remain friends or go further. In victorian times there were chaperons over seeing meetings of boy and

girl. We have brahmin parents to perform such roles with a stick in hand if they come to know of dating of their children without their knowledge. If they give their

blessings to an union , they might reluctantly allow them to go out once or twice before/after engagement.

These days when boys and girls decide themselves to date, the only disposables are the boys parents.
 
Post no. 406;

Wayward children are a pain and a mental load on their parents. If the parents had given enough a ttention to them and inspite of all that if the child decides to go wayward, it should be left alone to enjoy or suffer the consequences. There is no obligation on the part of parents to mollycoddle them for ever and ever.

Parents sufferings due to old age are an altogether different issue. One does not bring up children hoping to sit as a load on their shoulders in old age. There are old age homes as the solution.

Maturity has nothing to do with this.
 
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Dear Sir,

I read your post...some who go on dates do not have intention of getting married.

I feel he did not really flirt with these girls in the real sense if he was actually invited for their marriages.

That means it was just friendship and not really anything beyond that..no girl in her right frame of mind would invite an ex boyfriend for her wedding.

Renukaji

The point I am trying to convey is that the Girls were very clear . They were just enjoying the time pass and money spent by him .It was this moronic relative of mine who took for granted that the time pass will lead to romance and them to marriage and was spending his time ,energy and money on one girl after the another and none of the Girls considered him seriously but this chap used to boast to everyone about the various girl friends of his ( they never took him that way and were using him only as an ATM Machine ) . That was why they werre least perturbed in inviting him for their wedding but this chap ( actually they invite most of their batch mates for the wedding ) used to weep every night after the wedding was over playing some old love songs ( in Hindi / Tamil ) and the joke in their own family was that when some old hindi / tamil romantic song was being played that means one of his so called girl friends has got married . Some idiots believe that iwhen a girl a talks to them it means they love them and this guy comes in that category only that he extended his so called bike services and ATM services to them thinking it will lead to romance and later marriage but to his horror realised it was all one way love only .But one thing I must credit this chap . He did not stop with one girl but tried his luck with many Girls but yet ended with Zero strike rate .LOL .
 
Whatever happened to Sare Jahan Se Accha..Hindustan Hamara?

So is it...Sare Jahan Se Achha..Havard Tumhara?

The son is not from Harward. Only his Degree. Still he is only a hindustani TB. So Sare jahan se achha Hindoostan hamara still holds good.
 
Members have not only voiced their concerns but have proposed thoughtful suggestions about retaining culture. There has to be a concrete start at some point.

Can members come out with concrete mission and vision statements?
 
I believe people have spoken out what they wanted to say. It would be easier for the mission and vision statements to be drafted if Shri.Vaagmi, Shri Vgane, Shri TKS, and others who have contributed to sum up their suggestions. But if anyone believes there is more to be discussed kindly come out with your suggestions.
 
People who have spoken for change like Shri Krish, Smt. Renuka, Shri. Auh and others can also immensely contribute because change is also essential for evolution and once the constructive suggestions of both sides are heared an integrated plan for the benefit of the nation and humanity in general can be worked out.
 
What do we do with these statements ?

Stick it up on walls and look at it.

Alternately burn some camphor with chants of om namo TB. in front of it
 
Dear Shri Krish,

If you have read my last post I have asked for suggestions from your camp too. It is ok to be skeptical but let it be healthy.
 
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