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India the story you never wanted to hear ..

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India: the Story You Never Wanted to Hear - CNN iReport

When people ask me about my experience studying abroad in India, I always face the same dilemma. How does one convey the contradiction that over the past few months has torn my life apart, and convey it in a single succinct sentence?
“India was wonderful," I go with, "but extremely dangerous for women.” Part of me dreads the follow-up questions, and part of me hopes for more. I'm torn between believing in the efficacy of truth, and being wary of how much truth people want.

Because, how do I describe my three months in the University of Chicago Indian civilizations program when it was half dream, half nightmare? Which half do I give

Do I tell them about our first night in the city of Pune, when we danced in the Ganesha festival, and leave it at that? Or do I go on and tell them how the festival actually stopped when the American women started dancing, so that we looked around to see a circle of men filming our every move?

Do I tell them about bargaining at the bazaar for beautiful saris costing a few dollars a piece, and not mention the men who stood watching us, who would push by us, clawing at our breasts and groins?

When people compliment me on my Indian sandals, do I talk about the man who stalked me for forty-five minutes after I purchased them, until I yelled in his face in a busy crowd?

Do I describe the lovely hotel in Goa when my strongest memory of it was lying hunched in a fetal position, holding a pair of scissors with the door bolted shut, while the staff member of the hotel who had tried to rape my roommate called me over and over, and breathing into the phone?

How, I ask, was I supposed to tell these stories at a Christmas party? But how could I talk about anything else when the image of the smiling man who masturbated at me on a bus was more real to me than my friends, my family, or our Christmas tree? All those nice people were asking the questions that demanded answers for which they just weren't prepared.

When I went to India, nearly a year ago, I thought I was prepared. I had been to India before; I was a South Asian Studies major; I spoke some Hindi. I knew that as a white woman I would be seen as a promiscuous being and a sexual prize. I was prepared to follow the University of Chicago’s advice to women, to dress conservatively, to not smile in the streets. And I was prepared for the curiosity my red hair, fair skin and blue eyes would arouse.

But I wasn't prepared.

There was no way to prepare for the eyes, the eyes that every day stared with such entitlement at my body, with no change of expression whether I met their gaze or not. Walking to the fruit seller's or the tailer's I got stares so sharp that they sliced away bits of me piece by piece. I was prepared for my actions to be taken as sex signals; I was not prepared to understand that there were no sex signals, only women's bodies to be taken, or hidden away.

I covered up, but I did not hide. And so I was taken, by eye after eye, picture after picture. Who knows how many photos there are of me in India, or on the internet: photos of me walking, cursing, flipping people off. Who knows how many strangers have used my image as pornography, and those of my friends. I deleted my fair share, but it was a drop in the ocean-- I had no chance of taking back everything they took

For three months I lived this way, in a traveler's heaven and a woman's hell. I was stalked, groped, masturbated at; and yet I had adventures beyond my imagination. I hoped that my nightmare would end at the tarmac, but that was just the beginning. Back home Christmas red seemed faded after vermillion, and food tasted spiceless and bland. Friends, and family, and classes, and therapy, and everything at all was so much less real than the pain, the rage that was coursing through my blood, screaming so loud it deafened me to all other sounds. And after months of elation at living in freedom, months of running from the memories breathing down my neck, I woke up on April Fool's Day and found I wanted to be dead.

The student counselors diagnosed me with a personality disorder and prescribed me pills I wouldn't take. After a public breakdown I ended up in a psych ward for two days held against my will, and was released on the condition that I took a "mental leave of absence" from school and went to live with my mother. I thought I had lost my mind; I didn't connect any of it to India-- I had moved on. But then a therapist diagnosed me with PTSD and I realized I hadn't moved a single inch. I had frozen in time. And I’d fallen. And I’d shattered.

But I wasn't the only one, the only woman from my trip to be diagnosed with PTSD, to be forced into a psych ward, to wake up wanting to be dead. And I am not the only woman who is on a mental leave of absence from the University of Chicago for reasons of sexual assault and is unable to take classes.

Understanding my pain has helped me own it, if not relieve it. PTSD strikes me as a euphemism, because a syndrome implies a cure. What, may I ask, is the cure for seeing reality, of feeling for three months what its like for one's humanity to be taken away? But I thank God for my experiences in India, and for my disillusionment. Truth is a gift, a burden, and a responsibility. And I mean to share it.

This is the story you don't want to hear when you ask me about India. But this is the story you need.
 
This problem exists in India due to the impact of "Entertainment" media and the baggage brought along with it. Indians are, probably, not ready for a lot of things including liberalization, globalization etc., as the masses of India have not stepped out of their archaic mindset.

I reproduce, from the url link given in the OP, a comment from a person "airforcebala" which seems to sum up the situation, and incidentally reflects my thoughts on the above.

Absolutely I have no doubt about your story being true and I don't regret the country you have narrated about,is India.Only thing, that strikes me is that millions of foreign tourists still flock this country un-armed even with a pepper spray go and roam in the gullies of oriental towns prove the fact, that your experience though sad, is an abominable exception. What happens in Central Park in NYC perpetually and in Wimbledon where stalkers target from Serena to Sharpova and yet Indians and many world tourists have not discarded USA or London from their itinerary !

Ruffians - stimulated and excited exist every where across the globe and the tourist has to become aware and choose the place and time one would like to frequent such weird environ ! A bit of circumspection and dressing in moderation does aid in precluding such possibilities ! Knowledge and respect for native sensibilities demand that one does make a difference in perceptions to robes sported in Lonavala and Lake shore at Chicago ! One does not envisage walking in down town - Dallas after twilight without the fear of being mugged.
 
India is far from perfect. But a person from the west projecting India in such a poor light would make one believe that the west is a land of virtues. How far can this be from the truth! The difference between the India and the west is that crimes are mostly done here on instints , while they are done in a systematic way in the west. You would see less of the overt acts that people do here that would be called indecent or uncivilized in the west, but the west only does that in a civil way.

To the west, the method is what is important, the intent not so much. If something can be done in a systematic way i.e., a crime done in a systematic way covering it with logic, would seem ok though the same done in an overt manner would make such people aghast.

Many Indians at present are beset by the terrible mix of overt and instintive behaviour and the influence and mindset of the west. I think India will certainly learn but what it learns will finally decide whether the story is good or bad.
 
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This time when I was in India I could not help noticing every Caucasian woman walking on the streets of Banglore was dressed in Salwar Kameez with Dupatta draped across them and also some covered their head.

Even I only dressed up in loose flowing clothes full long sleeves with head fully covered up in a scarf(but as you enter a temple with head covered up..you do get some stares)

Only the local Indian girls were dressed in modern clothes and shorts and sleeveless Tshirts.

I guess everyone visting India is taking precautions
 
This article is spreading fast on the net and stimulating lot of dialogue . I visited Rishikesh in April 2013 this year and the locals said that this time there was more than 25% drop in the arrival of Westren women tourists due to the negative impact of the wide media coverage of the Nirbhaya Case as well as the sexual assault on a foreigner by the Hotel Owner himself in a hotel in Agra .

Couple of years back Indian Government's Tourism Department were showing ads on TV how we must respect foreign tourists as part of their Tourism Promotional drive .I do not see those ads these days .They must continue to show those ads and also use the medium of Movies to educate people on how to respect foreign tourists who visit India especially women tourists who travel alone . Here is a link to that video which shows bollywood actor Aamir Khan as part of Government of India's Atithi Devo Bhava Campaign .


Amir Khan -Indian Tourism (atithi devo bhava) - YouTube
 
Incident posted in Post # 1 is very much difficult to believe. May be some part true and rest may be extended imagination. Yet another attempt by some vested interests to malign the name and image of the country. Better to ignore the entire thread.

Venkat K
 
I have never heard about such a behavior exhibited by Indians.....What makes the article suspect is that she has not narrated one incident...She says that she experienced this on a daily basis..

Such a probabaility is probably one in a trillion

It is humbug...May be she is part of the white supremacist gang to belittle the 3rd world
 
Yeah just read this. Shameful.

I dont think it is humbug as vgane is saying. He has not experienced it as he is not a naive, white-skinned, young, female foreigner.
 
Yeah just read this. Shameful.

I dont think it is humbug as vgane is saying. He has not experienced it as he is not a naive, white-skinned, young, female foreigner.
Yes, no point in hiding such behavior. Even older ladies are scared of going in public transportation.
I have been there, and humiliated to see the shameful way young Indian males behave, I am sure there are members here who will rush to the defense of Indian men, and criticize the women (in particular foreign).
 
The CNN article comes with this disclaimer:

Please note that CNN cannot independently verify the events described in this post. You can read more about this story on CNN.com.
 
Yes, no point in hiding such behavior. Even older ladies are scared of going in public transportation.
I have been there, and humiliated to see the shameful way young Indian males behave, I am sure there are members here who will rush to the defense of Indian men, and criticize the women (in particular foreign).
I don't think its just the young indian males. Right here we had folks like PJ, Ravi, Sangom sir who said clothes are responsible for rapes. TBS said if a woman is naked means anybody can use. You yourself resorted to the rape-clothing analogy against me in the meritocracy-quota thread. So, its pretty much apparent where the average indian male stands. So much for brahmin and satvik, really..
 
India has taught the world many things and stands for greatness in many area.

However every Indian person and every person of Indian origin must be concerned about what is happening even if the facts behind the story is only 10% true in my view.

There are many kids (I say college age children as kids) who are fascinated by India and wants to visit to learn from a very ancient culture for all it can offer.

There are many I know that do not want to revisit our great country.

For every person that reports a bad experience there are probably 100 more that do not get reported.

Schools and universities teach these kids how to behave in a foreign culture. There are stupid tourists that may venture into crime prone area and consequences then are understandable if they get into trouble (though even that should not be condoned).

However the experience of ordinary looking western women who are properly clothed being harassed often should be concerning to any patriotic Indian. The video posted by one of our esteemed members in this thread makes this point well.

The shameless acts are conducted by very few in my view. Most Indian men are very decent but they let such atrocities go by even if they witness such acts either out of lack of empathy or out of cowardice or both.

I hope that most tourists do not have the kind of experience this girl is reporting.

For any caring and patriotic Indian even one incidence should be viewed as one too many - to me that is mark of greatness of a society.

Instead we have lack of empathy across the board ...

I am not sure how many have visited Japan - Ordinary people go out of their way to make sure visitors are made to feel welcome for no personal gain. In doing so they show how how great a society they are.

I truly hope caring and proud Indians will understand the intent behind this message and not rush to defend India. India as a country is great in many ways and does not need any defense. Instead it needs caring people to speak against such atrocities even if such incidence are considered rare. That is the best way to defend India in my view.
 
I am not sure how many have visited Japan - Ordinary people go out of their way to make sure visitors are made to feel welcome for no personal gain. In doing so they show how how great a society they are.
Had a chance to stay in a remote village in japan for a week. Prior to that we roamed the streets of tokyo. Not once did we feel unsafe. If anyone wants to learn hospitality it must be from the Japanese. So courteous, so affectionate, so orderly. Most times they do not know english. But if we point a place on the map they wud walk us all the way (even if be 20-30 min) to bring us to the spot. Never seen such concern elsewhere. We ate at a pakistani restaurant with a photo of Jinnah on the wall in front of us. But we were delighted to find someone speaking hindi and preparing daal, bhindi sabzi, with lovely warm phulkas.
 
I don't think its just the young indian males. Right here we had folks like PJ, Ravi, Sangom sir who said clothes are responsible for rapes. TBS said if a woman is naked means anybody can use. You yourself resorted to the rape-clothing analogy against me in the meritocracy-quota thread. So, its pretty much apparent where the average indian male stands. So much for brahmin and satvik, really..

Moral of the story: If you are an average Indian male, you must be a rapist. If you are satvik and a brahmin too you can not be anything but a rapist. And to boot, it is all pretty much apparent. Down with brahmin, satvik indians. Long live tamasic and rajasic, NB indians.
 
I don't think its just the young indian males. Right here we had folks like PJ, Ravi, Sangom sir who said clothes are responsible for rapes. TBS said if a woman is naked means anybody can use. You yourself resorted to the rape-clothing analogy against me in the meritocracy-quota thread. So, its pretty much apparent where the average indian male stands. So much for brahmin and satvik, really..

Palindrome,

I am very sorry to say that what you have written above comes out as if all of us (PJ, Ravi, Sangom who said clothes are responsible for rapes, TBS (who) said if a woman is naked means anybody can use, You (meaning TKS) yourself who resorted to the rape-clothing analogy against me in the meritocracy-quota thread.) are rapists or, at the least, probable rapists. I take strong exception to your insinuation.

If some one argues that under today's indian conditions a scantily or provocatively dressed woman could be more liable to rape attempts, will that, ipso facto, mean that all such persons should be rapists?

I feel sad that you are, by your own actions, proving your detractors true and helping them to win their case against you. I suggest that you do not make off-the-cuff responses but read what you type and post it next day.

The last sentence (So much for brahmin and satvik, really..) is really unfortunate and makes it difficult to defend you against the charges that you are anti-brahmin, and makes it stick, hard and fast.

Why are you so much against the people here and not merely against the views expressed by them? Can you not delink the two?
 
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Palindrome,

I am very sorry to say that what you have written above comes out as if all of us (PJ, Ravi, Sangom who said clothes are responsible for rapes, TBS (who) said if a woman is naked means anybody can use, You (meaning TKS) yourself who resorted to the rape-clothing analogy against me in the meritocracy-quota thread.) are rapists or, at the least, probable rapists. I take strong exception to your insinuation.

If some one argues that under today's indian conditions a scantily or provocatively dressed woman could be more liable to rape attempts, will that, ipso facto, mean that all such persons should be rapists?

I feel sad that you are, by your own actions, proving your detractors true and helping them to win their case against you. I suggest that you do not make off-the-cuff responses but read what you type and post it next day.

The last sentence (So much for brahmin and satvik, really..) is really unfortunate and makes it difficult to defend you against the charges that you are anti-brahmin, and makes it stick, hard and fast.

Why are you so much against the people here and not merely against the views expressed by them? Can you not delink the two?
Am sorry sir. But what i wrote is what i feel. Unfortunately, there are 2 types of people. One who think clothes are responsible for rapes. Others who think rapists wud rape anyways irrespective of clothes. Those who think clothes are responsible for rapes probably unwittingly and unknowingly support excuses given by rapists to justify their crime.

From a satvik person one wud expect empathy; and condemnation of the crime no matter what the circumstance was. Not justification such as 'anybody can use' or clothes.

Am sorry sir, it does not matter to me what others think. I disagree with my parents on so many issues but we do not hold it against each other. Ofcourse i do not expect any such thing from anyone here.
 
Palindrome,

The last sentence (So much for brahmin and satvik, really..) is really unfortunate and makes it difficult to defend you against the charges that you are anti-brahmin, and makes it stick, hard and fast.

Why are you so much against the people here and not merely against the views expressed by them? Can you not delink the two?

Spoken like a friend. (I really mean it)
 
Palindrome,

I am very sorry to say that what you have written above comes out as if all of us (PJ, Ravi, Sangom who said clothes are responsible for rapes, TBS (who) said if a woman is naked means anybody can use, You (meaning TKS) yourself who resorted to the rape-clothing analogy against me in the meritocracy-quota thread.) are rapists or, at the least, probable rapists. I take strong exception to your insinuation.

If some one argues that under today's indian conditions a scantily or provocatively dressed woman could be more liable to rape attempts, will that, ipso facto, mean that all such persons should be rapists?

I feel sad that you are, by your own actions, proving your detractors true and helping them to win their case against you. I suggest that you do not make off-the-cuff responses but read what you type and post it next day.

The last sentence (So much for brahmin and satvik, really..) is really unfortunate and makes it difficult to defend you against the charges that you are anti-brahmin, and makes it stick, hard and fast.

Why are you so much against the people here and not merely against the views expressed by them? Can you not delink the two?

The highlighted part was to Prasad ji (not me TKS) which was post#10 ...Since you like to be precise on certain details I wanted to point out . Thanks
 
I don't think its just the young indian males. Right here we had folks like PJ, Ravi, Sangom sir who said clothes are responsible for rapes. TBS said if a woman is naked means anybody can use. You yourself resorted to the rape-clothing analogy against me in the meritocracy-quota thread. So, its pretty much apparent where the average indian male stands. So much for brahmin and satvik, really..


Palindromeji,
I was the one arguing that all human beings (including foreign women) should have the right to walk free, and be safe in any community. I do not condone the acts of irresponsible men.
I do not believe that all men are same, I am sure a true Satvic (not including Asaram Bapu who is charged with a crime) man would not rape.
 
The highlighted part was to Prasad ji (not me TKS) which was post#10 ...Since you like to be precise on certain details I wanted to point out . Thanks
And I thought we were on the same side of this argument, oh well. LOL
 
Even at the risk of some people charging at me, it was only after reading the OP twice (or thrice) that I realized that the complaint was not about rape, molestation or any attempts to do any of these, but purely the fantasies of a woman who, it seems to me, had some psychological disorder, even before coming to India.

I recall the case of one female employee (details not being given purposely) who used to complain often to the in-charge of the office about other male employees ogling her, staring at her, passing comments, and so on. At last a separate room was given to her and one or two other female employees. Then the complaints started being on the peons who had to come in for taking files in and out of that separate room. The other female employees, on being asked, said that they did not find any unsatisfactory behaviour on the part of the peons.

The said employee was then asked to go on medical leave and rejoin after getting OK certificate from a qualified psychologist/psychiatrist.

This OP report seems to indicate a similar mindset.
 
Palindromeji,
I was the one arguing that all human beings (including foreign women) should have the right to walk free, and be safe in any community. I do not condone the acts of irresponsible men.
I do not believe that all men are same, I am sure a true Satvic (not including Asaram Bapu who is charged with a crime) man would not rape.
On this issue we have always agreed. Thankyou sir.
 
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