Naryana & Navagraha

[prasad1]

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Makes sense..in fact I find it strange that if a temple closes for a short while if there is death in the vicinity.
Death happens everywhere second and everywhere in this world...going by that logic no temple can be ever opened.

Sometimes I get a feeling its we humans that come up with some rules and regulations that could have had reasons that were never known.

That is we need to know when the temple closing due to death in the vicinity started?

Was it in a time and era where the village was hit by a communicable disease?
So it could have started as preventive measure to limit exposure to a communicable disease and it got passed down without anyone knowing the actual reason and it became a ritual.

Are you kidding, is it sometime? It is always and majority of times it is the not too smart Humans who come up with such rules.

 

[CHANDRU1849]

India is a Hindu country and will remain the karmabhumi of hindus. Vivekanananda's voice, wake up Hindus, has been heard by many now.

Everybody is telling that India is a secular country. If that is so, how can it become a Hindu country? It is only day dreaming.

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

Madurai into Chithirai Festivals Originally they were 2 seperate Festivals one of Meenakshi Temple in Madurai and the other of Algar Koil. Thirumalai Nayaker clubbed these 2 into one as followed now - an attempt to unite the savites and the Vaishnavates Yet some people feel & write about their right to exculsiveness and cannot stand Smarth spirit!

You have all details in these links!

Chithirai Thiruvizha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Chithirai festival begins with flag hoisting - The Hindu

Madurai Chithirai Festival 2015 - Timetable |

This festival is also performed in Paramakudi and Manananaduri down the course of river Vaigai! As usual poster crop up all over including the ones by Dravida Kazagam Demanding the arrest of kallazagar "Kallazgarai kaithu sei "

It may be of interest for many - the story Thillana Mohanambal starts here in Alagar Koil during the festival where Sikkil Shanmuga Sundaram and Thillana Mohanambal were hired to perform during the festival Remember this song Maraindirundu parkum marumam enna?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPwCtBidy_8

 

[CHANDRU1849]

Most of the temple festivals, originated during the rule of various kings, pertaining to different months and occasions, in Tamil Nadu, are related to the worship of Lord Shiva only.

These festivals are subsequently adopted by the temples of other Gods.

Tamil Kings were predominantly Buddhists, Jains and Saivites.

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

Most of the temple festivals, originated during the rule of various kings, pertaining to different months and occasions, in Tamil Nadu, are related to the worship of Lord Shiva only.

These festivals are subsequently adopted by the temples of other Gods.

Tamil Kings were predominantly Buddhists, Jains and Saivites.

Naikars are vaishnavaites You can see Y or U on the forehead of Thirumalai Nyakar statues! Surprasingly the move to unite vaishnavaites and savites was by a progresive vashnavite!

 

[CHANDRU1849]

Naikars are vaishnavaites You can see Y or U on the forehead of Thirumalai Nyakar statues! Surprasingly the move to unite vaishnavaites and savites was by a progresive vashnavite!

Naickers, you refer, are not Tamilians. They were either Telugus or Kannadigas. They are settlers. They defeated Chola or Pandia kings and established their kingdoms here. Even rulers from Maharashtra (Sarafogis) ruled Thanjavur.

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

It may be of interest for many - the story Thillana Mohanambal starts here in Alagar Koil during the festival where Sikkil Shanmuga Sundaram and Thillana Mohanambal were hired to perform during the festival Remember this song Maraindirundu parkum marumam enna?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPwCtBidy_8

Imagine this situation The story line is the same but replaced with Aam Admi village Ayyanar or Petchi Amman temple instead of Alagar Koil or other elitist Brahminical temple Kargam instead of bharatham & Melam in place of Thavil you get this(Ramarajan instead of Padmini Kanaka replacing Sivaji) beautiful song and sequence!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cReIk0PTSL8

 

[renuka]

Are you kidding, is it sometime? It is always and majority of times it is the not too smart Humans who come up with such rules.

Dear Prasad ji,

You might have a point but I have seen very "smart' individuals who come up with many rules too..I think its more about a fear factor here..some people have high IQ but still have built in fear and dare not look into the actual reason why some rules were made.

Mainly becos the actual reason for a rule has never been revealed..so most people usually have fear to question such rules.

Recently my father asked me why was the temple near by closed on the day of the recent eclipse?He was not too satisfied with the answers given by his friends etc...he felt the answers of his friends made it sound as if God too is effected by the eclipse.


I told him"background radiation increases during eclipses..so its best people stay indoors and temples were most probably closed for the similar reason so that no one gets exposed to increased background radiation cos temple technically is not for God but for humans...so humans need to be kept safe when they are in temple grounds"

He seemed satisfied with my answer.

 

[sarang]

If the list of atrocities committed by the ROL and ROP in the past and today are listed and published, sanatana dhrama aka 'Hinduism' will stand out as the only secular religion.

Everybody is telling that India is a secular country. If that is so, how can it become a Hindu country? It is only day dreaming.

 

[Vaagmi]

Dear Prasad ji,
You might have a point but I have seen very "smart' individuals who come up with many rules too..I think its more about a fear factor here..some people have high IQ but still have built in fear and dare not look into the actual reason why some rules were made.
Mainly becos the actual reason for a rule has never been revealed..so most people usually have fear to question such rules.
Recently my father asked me why was the temple near by closed on the day of the recent eclipse?He was not too satisfied with the answers given by his friends etc...he felt the answers of his friends made it sound as if God too is effected by the eclipse.
I told him"background radiation increases during eclipses..so its best people stay indoors and temples were most probably closed for the similar reason so that no one gets exposed to increased background radiation cos temple technically is not for God but for humans...so humans need to be kept safe when they are in temple grounds"
He seemed satisfied with my answer.

Renukaji,

There is something called Poonai Kutty Acharam. And the story goes like this:

There was a learned Acharya with many students. The Acharya used to conduct several yajnas and was an authority in the conduct of such yajnas. His students were very disciplined and had a desire to learn everything from him about the yajnas and were very alert.

In the parnasala and the yagasala there was a menace of rats and mices. And their number went increasing. They used to eat away whatever was kept for the yajnas and used to create problems with the clothes too. So the Acharya got a young cat and started bringing it up in the parnasala. He used to feed it every day with milk and for the rest of its energy needs the kitten used to catch and eat the rats and mices in the parnasala/yagasala. In course of time the rat menace was waning. A new problem started. The acharya was very concerned that the playful cat will fall into the yajna fire by accident. So he got a cage made and very meticulously made it a point to catch the cat and put it into the cage before starting every yajna so that it will be safe.

After some time the Acharya died and the sishyas chose one of the seniors among them to be the new Acharya. The cat too died after some time. When the cat died the disciples had a serious problem in hand. They did not know how to start the yajna without catching the cat and putting it in the cage. For them it had become a part of the yajna process. They went about searching for a cat, caught it and brought it to the parnasala and then were happy to start the daily yajna again. They did a prayaschittam for missing the "caging the cat" process in the previous day's yajna.

This is called poonai kutty Acharam.

And you sure know why I am writing this here. I saved a few bytes. LOL.

 

[sarang]

Are you kidding, is it sometime? It is always and majority of times it is the not too smart Humans who come up with such rules.

Universal law promulgated by the smart rationalist, i say so, so it is!

 

[renuka]

Renukaji,

There is something called Poonai Kutty Acharam. And the story goes like this:

There was a learned Acharya with many students. The Acharya used to conduct several yajnas and was an authority in the conduct of such yajnas. His students were very disciplined and had a desire to learn everything from him about the yajnas and were very alert.

In the parnasala and the yagasala there was a menace of rats and mices. And their number went increasing. They used to eat away whatever was kept for the yajnas and used to create problems with the clothes too. So the Acharya got a young cat and started bringing it up in the parnasala. He used to feed it every day with milk and for the rest of its energy needs the kitten used to catch and eat the rats and mices in the parnasala/yagasala. In course of time the rat menace was waning. A new problem started. The acharya was very concerned that the playful cat will fall into the yajna fire by accident. So he got a cage made and very meticulously made it a point to catch the cat and put it into the cage before starting every yajna so that it will be safe.

After some time the Acharya died and the sishyas chose one of the seniors among them to be the new Acharya. The cat too died after some time. When the cat died the disciples had a serious problem in hand. They did not know how to start the yajna without catching the cat and putting it in the cage. For them it had become a part of the yajna process. They went about searching for a cat, caught it and brought it to the parnasala and then were happy to start the daily yajna again. They did a prayaschittam for missing the "caging the cat" process in the previous day's yajna.

This is called poonai kutty Acharam.

And you sure know why I am writing this here. I saved a few bytes. LOL.

LOL!

I have read this story before..I get what you mean.

BTW I was reading some religious text of an Abrahamic Religion that has the concept of only One God and importance given to a specific messenger.

The part about death mentioned that upon death..2 angels would be sent to "accompany" the soul and these 2 angels are dark blue in color.

I was thinking "hey aren't Vishnu Dutas dark blue in color too?"


What similarity with Vaishnavaism yaar!LOL

 

[Vaagmi]

LOL!

I have read this story before..I get what you mean.

BTW I was reading some religious text of an Abrahamic Religion that has the concept of only One God and importance given to a specific messenger.

The part about death mentioned that upon death..2 angels would be sent to "accompany" the soul and these 2 angels are dark blue in color.

I was thinking "hey aren't Vishnu Dutas dark blue in color too?"


What similarity with Vaishnavaism yaar!LOL

Moral of the story. Vaishnavism is the mother of all religions and religious thoughts of humanity. So try to learn and understand vaishnavism and respect it. LOL.

 

[renuka]

Moral of the story. Vaishnavism is the mother of all religions and religious thoughts of humanity. So try to learn and understand vaishnavism and respect it. LOL.

Mother? It should be Father of all Religions..cos Vishnu is Supreme and worshiped as the Supreme Purusha...there is no Mother concept in Vaishnavaism as far as I know..Lakshmi is mostly depicted as an "ornament" for Vishnu.

 

[Vaagmi]

Mother? It should be Father of all Religions..cos Vishnu is Supreme and worshiped as the Supreme Purusha...there is no Mother concept in Vaishnavaism as far as I know..Lakshmi is mostly depicted as an "ornament" for Vishnu.

Again poor understanding of Vaishnavism. My prescription is Complan.

and by the way, did you try to find out about the para bhakti, para jnana and parama bhakti spoken about by Sri Ramanujacharya?

 

[renuka]

Again poor understanding of Vaishnavism. My prescription is Complan.

and by the way, did you try to find out about the para bhakti, para jnana and parama bhakti spoken about by Sri Ramanujacharya?

I only know one Bhakti..and that is Vibhakti!LOL

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

Renukaji,

There is something called Poonai Kutty Acharam. And the story goes like this:

There was a learned Acharya with many students. The Acharya used to conduct several yajnas and was an authority in the conduct of such yajnas. His students were very disciplined and had a desire to learn everything from him about the yajnas and were very alert.

In the parnasala and the yagasala there was a menace of rats and mices. And their number went increasing. They used to eat away whatever was kept for the yajnas and used to create problems with the clothes too. So the Acharya got a young cat and started bringing it up in the parnasala. He used to feed it every day with milk and for the rest of its energy needs the kitten used to catch and eat the rats and mices in the parnasala/yagasala. In course of time the rat menace was waning. A new problem started. The acharya was very concerned that the playful cat will fall into the yajna fire by accident. So he got a cage made and very meticulously made it a point to catch the cat and put it into the cage before starting every yajna so that it will be safe.

After some time the Acharya died and the sishyas chose one of the seniors among them to be the new Acharya. The cat too died after some time. When the cat died the disciples had a serious problem in hand. They did not know how to start the yajna without catching the cat and putting it in the cage. For them it had become a part of the yajna process. They went about searching for a cat, caught it and brought it to the parnasala and then were happy to start the daily yajna again. They did a prayaschittam for missing the "caging the cat" process in the previous day's yajna.

This is called poonai kutty Acharam.

And you sure know why I am writing this here. I saved a few bytes. LOL.

It is but natural for Cat religion to have poonai kutty Acharam. since Vishnu is a cat God! hence you are writing this here!

One Hindu analogy to illustrate their different theologies is Monkey vs. Cat Religions.[SUP]3[/SUP] During my two years in India and Pakistan I heard this explanation several times when debating religion with Sadhus ! [SUP]3[/SUP]

Have you ever seen a baby cat carried by its mother? What does the kitten do? The kitten does nothing — it just submissively hangs there in surrender while the mother carries it all around. Thus in cat religions, the believer is dependent upon the god for salvation and for grace. One only need to surrender and the mother (the god) protects and saves the baby. There are two main Hindu sects: Vaishnavism (worship of Vishnu) andShaivism (worship of Shiva). The Vaishnavite embrace a Cat God — Vishnu whom the hope their faith, adoration and surrender to secures them a good life and salvation. Sound familiar?

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