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Raji Ram

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This is to share and interesting information!

One of the N R I guys wanted to celebrate the upanayanam for his twin sons. The family members suggested that the grand parents

can perform for one of the sons. He and his wife flatly refused because they wanted to treat the two sons as equals! This case was

taken to a learned SAsthrigaL. He explained that the 'power' accrued by the daily japams of the father will be transferred to the son,

when he gives the 'Gayatri upadhEsam' and hence he is NOT qualified to perform the ceremony for the second son, immediately!

But, the parents were adamant! Then the SAsthirgaL gave a new idea. After one muhurtham, the father should go to the nearby

temple and chant 1008 Gayatri japams and then he will be qualified to perform the upanayanam of his second son. What a great

idea SAsthrigaL Ji!


Now, the two muhurthams have about three hours difference and the father will rush to the temple, to qualify himself for the

second ceremony, on THE DAY! :thumb:


Has any other member got a similar experience? :)
 
Like so many exemptions in IT Rules, we have so many for rituals in our religion.

The Shastrigal has shown an easy way out to come out of the tricky situation. If 1008 Gayathri Japams are enough to recoup the 'power', then is it necessary to recite the japam daily? I think Shastrigal's advice is logically not correct.
 
What can not be cured should be endured!

Solutions are always possible.

Let the NRI recite 1008 japams at least once in his life! :D
 
Raji Ram said:

This is to share and interesting information!

One of the N R I guys wanted to celebrate the upanayanam for his twin sons. The family members suggested that the grand parents

can perform for one of the sons. He and his wife flatly refused because they wanted to treat the two sons as equals! This case was

taken to a learned SAsthrigaL. He explained that the 'power' accrued by the daily japams of the father will be transferred to the son,

when he gives the 'Gayatri upadhEsam' and hence he is NOT qualified to perform the ceremony for the second son, immediately!

But, the parents were adamant! Then the SAsthirgaL gave a new idea. After one muhurtham, the father should go to the nearby

temple and chant 1008 Gayatri japams and then he will be qualified to perform the upanayanam of his second son. What a great

idea SAsthrigaL Ji!


Now, the two muhurthams have about three hours difference and the father will rush to the temple, to qualify himself for the

second ceremony, on THE DAY! :thumb:


Has any other member got a similar experience? :)
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Actually Sastrigal did not want to lose out on his income for performing two events. So he made up something quickly while muttering the equivalent of a teenage expression in USA - "what a dumb ass"
 
a-TB said:
Actually Sastrigal did not want to lose out on his income for performing two events. So he made up something quickly while muttering the equivalent of a teenage expression in USA - "what a dumb ass"
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Oh! Come on! Please don't be so rude. :nono:
I am happy that he made that NRI guy to remember and recite Gayatri japam at least once in his lifetime! :clap2:
 
CHANDRU1849 said:
Like so many exemptions in IT Rules, we have so many for rituals in our religion.

The Shastrigal has shown an easy way out to come out of the tricky situation. If 1008 Gayathri Japams are enough to recoup the 'power', then is it necessary to recite the japam daily? I think Shastrigal's advice is logically not correct.
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Oh yes. We have many ways to circumvent the procedures. We utter the words like "upaveedartham Akshdaam samarpayami" or "Malaartham idham thulasidalani" etc etc and satisafy the procedures in our rituals.

Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.
 
Brahmanyan said:
Oh yes. We have many ways to circumvent the procedures. We utter the words like "upaveedartham Akshdaam samarpayami" or "Malaartham idham thulasidalani" etc etc and satisafy the procedures in our rituals.

Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.
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But but .. can one substitute Sastrigal's Dakshanai with Akshadai ? :-)
.. written more as a humor LoL
 
Like triguna, we have triactions graded as uttamam, madyamam, and adhamam. If not everything, something is better than nothing!
 
Why do people always assume an NRI or a PIO wont adhere to his religious obligation?

I remember many times before in forum many people from India itself after years of doing Sandhyavandanam have asked for the meaning of Gayatri Mantra..that shows either people are blindly reciting without knowing the meaning or never took the interest to find out the meaning earlier and followed a tradition without knowing its significance.

So how different is that from a person who does not recite the Gayatri mantra?
 
This view is totally alien to our system. It is better to know, but nowhere it is said that not knowing the surface or inherent or deep meaning will not benefit.

renuka said:
Why do people always assume an NRI or a PIO wont adhere to his religious obligation?

I remember many times before in forum many people from India itself after years of doing Sandhyavandanam have asked for the meaning of Gayatri Mantra..that shows either people are blindly reciting without knowing the meaning or never took the interest to find out the meaning earlier and followed a tradition without knowing its significance.

So how different is that from a person who does not recite the Gayatri mantra?
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sarang said:
This view is totally alien to our system. It is better to know, but nowhere it is said that not knowing the surface or inherent or deep meaning will not benefit.
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Then what is the use of reciting Dhiyo Yo Nah Prachodayat hoping for the intellect to be illuminated but yet you say not knowing the meaning is acceptable.

Its just that very few take the trouble to know what they are reciting.

But almost everyone will know the meaning of the Phala Shruti for anything they recite cos they want to know what benefits they will reap.
 
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a-TB said:
Actually Sastrigal did not want to lose out on his income for performing two events. So he made up something quickly while muttering the equivalent of a teenage expression in USA - "what a dumb ass"
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They do that They don dual roles for double dhakshina during Shardham He takes Dhakshina twice as Sastrigal who captains the procedure l and another as one of the Brahmins whom you feed!
 
Can anyone please define a certified Brahmin
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now that we have an idea about a qualified Brahmin?
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renuka said:
Why do people always assume an NRI or a PIO wont adhere to his religious obligation?

I remember many times before in forum many people from India itself after years of doing Sandhyavandanam have asked for the meaning of Gayatri Mantra..that shows either people are blindly reciting without knowing the meaning or never took the interest to find out the meaning earlier and followed a tradition without knowing its significance.

So how different is that from a person who does not recite the Gayatri mantra?
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Renu is right!
I was duly impressed by the children of NRI parents whom I met in the Hindu temples during the weekends. They were chanting Vishnu Sahasranaama and many other slokas, dressing up in traditional pattup paavaadai or dhothi / kurta and pyjama, girls wearing tilakam, ornaments and even perpetual and realistic flowers.
They are very keen not to lose touch with the Indian culture and hence go out of their way to keep it deep rooted and sincere. The kids also learn Sanskrit in addition to their mother tongues and music - both vocal and instrumental.
 
Janaki Jambunathan said:
They do that They don dual roles for double dhakshina during Shardham He takes Dhakshina twice as Sastrigal who captains the procedure l and another as one of the Brahmins whom you feed!
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If we make fun of our own pundits and priests how will the other people respect them or us! :(
NO ONE pays the Yathoktha dakshiNa as prescribed by the Vedas.
We manage to Keep a flower in the place of a gold coin.
"Ponnai vaikkira idathil poovai vaikkiren!"
After all the priests too have families to feed and clothe and bright / brilliant children to educate.
Recently I met a brahmin priest with a very pleasant voice and really pleasing manners. He was more than a mere priest. He was the news reader in the local News channel. That explained his good looks, pleasant voice and pleasing manners.
It need NOT be true THAT once a priest... always a priest! :nono:
 
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Meaning of Gayatri mantra is the one thread which is launched
again and again and again in the forum. :bump2:
Yet it remains always as new as ever. :thumb:
Words without thoughts will never to Heaven go.
Prayers without understanding them too may fail to work similarly.
 
Visalakshi Ramani said:


If we make fun of our own pundits and priests how will the other people respect them or us! :(
NO ONE pays the Yathoktha dakshiNa as prescribed by the Vedas.
We manage to Keep a flower in the place of a gold coin.
"Ponnai vaikkira idathil poovai vaikkiren!"
After all the priests too have families to feed and clothe and bright / brilliant children to educate.
Recently I met a brahmin priest with a very pleasant voice and really pleasing manners. He was more than a mere priest. He was the news reader in the local News channel. That explained his good looks, pleasant voice and pleasing manners.
It need be that true once a priest... always a priest! :nono:
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Yadhartham and realities may be painful - Try to offer vasthra dhanam or Godhanam to your priest They would prefer cash! This was my experiance in Baidhyanath temple He says dhothies he may not use - he has many and Godhan - no space to keep her and money to maintain her! This is like the Ravikai Thundu story that you give to Sumangalis with vetalapakku & you get back the same later when you visit them. Nobody really uses them! It is all money Honey!!
 
Raji Ram said:
Dear Renu,

They seldom have neighbors to comment about them and they escape easily from performing the daily rituals! :cool:
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Ha Ha Ha...so that means those who are not NRIs perform daily rituals becos they fear their neighbors?LOL
 
Janaki Jambunathan said:
Yadhartham and realities may be painful - Try to offer vasthra dhanam or Godhanam to your priest They would prefer cash! This was my experiance in Baidhyanath temple He says dhothies he may not use - he has many and Godhan - no space to keep her and money to maintain her! This is like the Ravikai Thundu story that you give to Sumangalis with vetalapakku & you get back the same later when you visit them. Nobody really uses them! It is all money Honey!!
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I remember I once did Godhanam and the priest asked me to pay cash equivalent to the price of a cow and for Swarna and Rajat(silver) Dhanam I was very sure he had cheated me when it came to the silver..cos he told me not to buy the silver vessel but he will buy it and I just need to pay him the price.

Then he came with an old looking silver vessel and claiming it was new..it had stains and it was dented.
I knew right away he was cheating me and asked me the money claiming it was new.

I just paid what he wanted..I did not want to disrespect a priest who came to do his job..even though he was cheating me cos since he was guest to the house..athiti devo bhava still holds good...but internally I felt bad that being a priest he was not being truthful.

Recently I met another priest from India who was very nice and not dakshina crazy and never cheats for anything.In fact he tells us to buy all the items ourselves that too hardly many items and he just conducts the prayers and takes only his dakshina. Sincere and honest priests do exists.
 
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Priests and pundits can not pay their house rent/ school fees/ grocery bills/taliroing charge etc with the somans and brass vesses they are given.

Everbody wants to be paid in cash. SO WHY NOT the poor learned brahmins priests?

Thankfully the days of barter system is dead and gone for good.

 
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