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Sankararaman murder case - Kanchi Shankaracharya Jayendra Saraswati acquitted

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கால பைரவன்;216994 said:
I provide below the concluding portion of the supreme court judgement when it allowed transfer of case from the state of TN. As one can see it is the government which by way of hook or crook wanted to secure the conviction of the Seers. It acted in a totalitarian way and stared harassing people for even expressing dissent then. Such truths of course will be lost on those who may be prejudiced against the Mutt for various reasons but their facade of striving for justice will stand exposed!!!

Shri KB,

Just as much as the then TN govt.'s actions are criticised, I feel the Mutt and the pontiffs are also to be criticised. The actions or wrong actions of the then TN government were wrong. But the govt., the ruling party and CM also changed in 2006. But the Mutt which came into prominence during the 1930's or 1940's did not commit any act which could link it to any crime or murder for 60 or 70 years.

You now see that the present senior acharya had close connections with some not-so-clean police officials, other elements and so on. There is much more news which spreads through word of mouth and all these are not doing any credit to the Mutt.

I heard that if you go to Kanchi and ask any man-in-the street (i.e., anyone other than the devotees) in the market or the residential areas, you will find that most people have only complaints and/or bad opinion about the mutt and its activities, and that some people even openly describe the (rather disturbing) activities reportedly going on within the Mutt. But all are scared of the Mutt and its financial reach to come out publicly. That is why, despite all the chest-beating in favour of the Mutt and the mutt heads, we find that the local people of Kancheepuram have no good word for the mutt and they have elected the AIADMK candidate in 2006 and also 2011.

There is no "facade" in this, it appears to me.
 
Better sense prevailed on the Hindu...Timely editorial..Is it repentance for taking a pro left leaning all through these years or is it Modi effect?

A complete vindication - The Hindu
So it is all ராசி with Hindu now? :)

Anyway, I don't know how this could be viewed as complete vindication. There are so many unanswered questions. The police and the prosecution team botched it, no doubt about it. But, so many unsavory characters with links to the Matham, so many statements and later retractions, key accused hacked to death, it is no wonder people are scratching their heads in disbelief. To accuse those who raise questions of prejudice against the Matam is not sensible.

What about Sankaraman, why was he murdered, does anyone care?

It is interesting that a major democratic country like India has done away with jury trials, a single judge gets to decide the guilt or innocence of the accused. It is even more puzzling that an acquittal can be appealed, I am no legal expert, but it seems that would amount to double jeopardy. The state with all its power should get only one chance to convict, if they fail, too bad. But I see there is lot of talk this verdict can be appealed.
 
Sangom Sir,

I am not aware of these gossips but just because there are gossips about "disturbing" activities in the mutt, should everyone presume that the Seers are guilty of murder? Iam pointing about this case quickly turned to be a case of vendetta by the TN government which is much more rich and powerful than the mutt.

The fact that ADMK got reelected does not mean much IMO. A point of fact is in Madurai where I hail from, in 2007, three innocent people were killed by political goons just because their employer the Dinakaran Magazine published a survey in which it claimed that Stalin was way ahead of Azagiri in popularity. In the Madurai bye elections held soon after the incident, DMK led by Azagiri scored a thumping victory. Would you say then the people sentiment was against those poor employees of Dinakaran?

If the mutt is indeed involved in any unlawful and disturbing activity, I also wish it comes out one day. Until then, I keep my faith and I won't hesitate to point out the very lopsided commentary carried over against the mutt here.
 
With this grahana vimochanam, I am sure the kanchi mut will regain its past glory, and re-attract its bewildered iyengar and iyer sishyas; many old iyengar sishyas, I know, never gave up and were visiting the mut as if nothing had happened.
 
The following is taken from the kanchiforum.org and it is given by a staunch Kanchi Devotee who feels that many Media have been quite biased with reporting the case after the Court Acquitted the 2 Acharyas along with others and he/she have shared what is most essential and I am sharing the same here .


The foisted case fell flat. All the accused were acquitted.

None of the media reported the important aspects of the judgment. Some visual media ran half an hour programs on the previous day and just before the verdict was given, but none of them gave a complete account of the judgment. So much for the media's partiality.

Before, during and after the verdict, there was no protest at the Court or in front of the court. But I was surprised that the media reported about some protest by some political party.

After the verdict was given, there was jubilation all around, the public there all were happy and were struggling to have a glimpse of the Acharyas as they were cardoned and escorted to their vehicles. The media thereafter took interviews from many of the advocates of both sides, and a number of people. Most of the public stated that they were happy that justice had been done. Of course, Anand, son of Sankararaman expressed his displeasure about the verdict. The Public Prosecutor stated that the case fell mostly because the witnesses turned hostile and even the family of Sankararaman did not depose in support of the prosecution. He even stated that the Judge had observed something short of stating that the case is foisted as the Judge pointed out that the statements before the Magistrate u/s 164 were obtained by coersion and by torturing two accused. I saw all these being recorded standing near the visual media journalists, who included NDTV, Times Now, Sun, Dinamalar, Dinakaran, Kalaignar, Puthia Thalaimurai, Raj, Star, TV18 and many more.

But the media did not relay any of the interviews that supported the Matham and the Acharyas. The media did not even show the statement of the Public Prosecutor where he pointed out the infirmities. I am a witness to the media playing absolutely foul by not showing anything that showed that the case was false and foisted.

As I heard the judgment from close range near the Judge, I give them here, at least let our brothers and sisters know of them. The media will not report any of them



The Judge read out the judgment's excerpts, which included:

1. Sankararaman's wife, son and daughter did not support the prosecution theory.

2. Sankararaman's wife, son and daughter didnot identify any of the accused in the court.

3. Out of 189 witnessed 83 turned hostile and the evidence of others became unreliable because of this.

4. Out of 140 material witnesses produced by the Police, 89 materials could not be proved to have been connected with the murder.

5. The vehicle produced by the Police as having been used for the crime was not so proved to have been used.

6. Two of those who were accused of having committed the murder were proven to have been not present at the scene of crime.

7. None of the accused, who were alleged to have committed the murder, was identified in the Court by any eye witness.

8. The Prosecution failed to prove the conspiracy by A1 to A4

9. There is no evidence to show that money was passed on by the Accused for committing the crime or for making the false accused surrender.

10. A7 and A8 were proved to have been tortured to give the statements recorded before the Magistrate u/s 164

11. A police SI was suspended, while under suspension his statement was recorded before the Magistrate u/s164 and thereafter he was reinstated in service. How his statement could have been out of free will is anybody's guess. This itself will speak volumes of the manner in which the so-called statements before the Magistrates were obtained.

12. The SP. Premkumar and Sakthivel took more interest in somehow or other implicate some accused as observed by the Supreme Court in its order dated 10.1.2005. This aspect has been proved in the trial before this Court.

13. Premkumar and sakthivel did not conduct the investigation in accordance with law and the investigation cannot be relied upon.

14. There is no evidence that the Accused committed murder, conspired or concealed any evidence and hence all the accused are acquitted.

Sathyameva Jayate

Jaya Jaya Shankara
Hara Hara Shankara
 
கால பைரவன்;217004 said:
Sangom Sir,

I am not aware of these gossips but just because there are gossips about "disturbing" activities in the mutt, should everyone presume that the Seers are guilty of murder? Iam pointing about this case quickly turned to be a case of vendetta by the TN government which is much more rich and powerful than the mutt.

The fact that ADMK got reelected does not mean much IMO. A point of fact is in Madurai where I hail from, in 2007, three innocent people were killed by political goons just because their employer the Dinakaran Magazine published a survey in which it claimed that Stalin was way ahead of Azagiri in popularity. In the Madurai bye elections held soon after the incident, DMK led by Azagiri scored a thumping victory. Would you say then the people sentiment was against those poor employees of Dinakaran?

If the mutt is indeed involved in any unlawful and disturbing activity, I also wish it comes out one day. Until then, I keep my faith and I won't hesitate to point out the very lopsided commentary carried over against the mutt here.

Shri KB,

Any one in this forum, in this thread, with a common sense and rational mind can very well understand all that you have said above, without being said. But, what I could understand by my observation is that, some tend to cite some hearsay, gossips, media/government/police focus against Mutt and Mutt heads etc..etc ONLY to have a chance to talk against the Mutt and the seers.

The whole episode probably has a very vast background, the darkest background which can not be explored by the public fully to know everything, black and white.

The thing that many could possibly think of is -

Kanchi Mutt started actively carrying out initiatives to strengthen Brahmin Community by welfare activities for poor Brahmins, many social welfare initiatives were carried out for "all" irrespective of caste and creed for which favorable political party/body also supported the initiatives by pumping in funds from various sources other than donations from the general public for the social causes. Other than Charitable activities many religious activities were also carried out.


As usual, like what happened with Puttaparthi Trust, Kanchi Mutt also been targeted with a blame that Kanch Matt is owning and controlling crores of Rupees worth assets and commercial establishments, by some vested interest (mostly by a syndicate of like minded groups that had ulterior motives to achieve something by hook or crook)

The misunderstanding/disagreement between Sankararaman and Kanchi seers was the best chance for the miscreants to play havoc and succeed in their agenda.

As such, hatchet men were hired and Sankaraman was murdered. It was then easy to put the blame on Kanchi Seers and all fabricated stuffs were created in a best possible manner to prove the blame.

If all the men or key persons involved in this plot were caught and made to confess, hell lots of facts would be exposed, holding many others as real guilty.

That's the reason, neither the real criminals were exposed nor the Seers could be proved guilty with substantial evidence.

At last, the law of the land, as usual, has to give benefit of doubt to accused seers and all others accused in the case and let them all go free.
 
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It was directed to all those who were casting "GUILT" on people who have not been proven guilty by court, specifically post#90.
Those who are ready to pin the guilt "by hook or Crook" because they could do in the legal system.

so it is not against folks who seek justice for that poor brahmin sankararaman? thank you prasad. i am quite sure, that as a u.s. resident, by and large, you are on the side of the underdog. here is a poor man with no money, murdered.

a temple trustee, who was a gadfly to the kanchi mutt, mainly because he openly and loudly disagrees with some of the policies of the mutt... and then he gets murdered.

maybe it is something like what happened to beckett.... Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" murmured Henry II as per oral tradition. and some of henry's chelas killed beckett.

was henry guilty of murdering beckett? i only saw the movie, and in the final scenes, we see, henry lying bare on his stomach, and whipped to blood, as a penance. the face of peter o'toole, who played henry, one saw, agony and repentence. will someone here repent such for sankararaman?

what if this had happend to one of our own dear ones?

.. and those of us who swear by the court's judgement here, may also remember, how many times, in this very forum, we have questioned the integrity of our justice system.. ;); all 83 witnesses turning hostile? must be first of a kind in the country!!

... and on a bizarre but lighter note.. read this :)
 
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why police did not investigate in different angle.

The investigation by the police in snakraraman murder case is lop sided. The investigation should have tried a different angle. The fact is Sankararaman was an ex emplyee in the mutt. He was an iyer. How he came to be appointed in the iyengar dominated varadaraja perumal temple.

Whether sankaraman was also a trouble shooter for the management of the varadaraja perumal temple.

whether the letter purported to have writen by sankararaman was realy writen by him or some real murderers used it to divert their role toward the pontiff.

why sankararaman's son changed his statement quite often and further now has the aducity to say after the deleverance of the judgment that he will depose in favour of the prosecution if appeal is preferred. Is he making mocery of due process system of judiciary. why is not punished for turning hostile.\\\\\

these are the missing links.

sathyanarayanan
 
கால பைரவன்;217004 said:
Sangom Sir,

I am not aware of these gossips but just because there are gossips about "disturbing" activities in the mutt, should everyone presume that the Seers are guilty of murder? Iam pointing about this case quickly turned to be a case of vendetta by the TN government which is much more rich and powerful than the mutt.

The fact that ADMK got reelected does not mean much IMO. A point of fact is in Madurai where I hail from, in 2007, three innocent people were killed by political goons just because their employer the Dinakaran Magazine published a survey in which it claimed that Stalin was way ahead of Azagiri in popularity. In the Madurai bye elections held soon after the incident, DMK led by Azagiri scored a thumping victory. Would you say then the people sentiment was against those poor employees of Dinakaran?

If the mutt is indeed involved in any unlawful and disturbing activity, I also wish it comes out one day. Until then, I keep my faith and I won't hesitate to point out the very lopsided commentary carried over against the mutt here.

Shri KB,

It is a fact that I hold the Kanchi Matam as a fabricated institution which has, by fluky circumstances, shot into limelight. There are several devotees for this Matam also but this has become kind of hinduism's "fashion" in recent times and anybody posing as guru, godman or mutt-head easily gets more than enough 'devotees'; satya saibaba, nithyananda, chandrasekhara saraswathy and so on & so forth, are examples we can easily cite. But my prejudice or bias does not affect jayendra (whom one Appu, calls by the nick-name "kuchi"!) who I consider is an unfortunate victim of the Mutt sampradaayam and had to become a sanyasi much against his aspirations of becoming an engineer, since he belonged to an impoverished tabra family. (The reports about Vijayendra are very different, however.)

Jayendra might have veered off from the principles and practices of his immediate guru Chandrasekhara saraswathy and he might have thus offended the sensibilities of a very orthodox tabra like Sankararaman. You know this world is not a closed room and people get to know many news and accounts from various people. Sankararaman also had his larger circle of 'trusted' relatives and equally trustworthy acquaintances - through many of whom the values for which Sankararaman stood (and sacrificed his life, ultimately) and what his equations were with the Mutt and its adhipatis were, have been filtering through ever since his murder. BTW, I even heard (and one source confirmed this also) that Sankararaman's wife grew up in Trivandrum.

Sankararaman's letters against the Mutt and Jayendra saraswathy state that he feared danger to his life also, and wanted protection.

Now, for a person like me, without any 'bhakti' for that Mutt, this shows that Sankararaman's fear for his life is linked to the Mutt only and not to any other person or agency. If he feared/doubted somebody else to be his enemy, it was not necessary for him to include that fear as one item in his letters criticising the Mutt. From what I hear about Sankararaman, his letter-drafting was quite good standard.

Hence, for me as also for people like me (who do not hold the Mutt and the Mutt-heads in esteem) the murder of one comparatively poor & hapless Tabra, Sankararaman, will be more important than Jayendra and/or Vijendra roaming free.
Perhaps we all should now condemn outright, Sankararaman's family for their lack of gratitude to their erstwhile bread-earner.
 
so it is not against folks who seek justice for that poor brahmin sankararaman? thank you prasad. i am quite sure, that as a u.s. resident, by and large, you are on the side of the underdog. here is a poor man with no money, murdered.

a temple trustee, who was a gadfly to the kanchi mutt, mainly because he openly and loudly disagrees with some of the policies of the mutt... and then he gets murdered.

maybe it is something like what happened to beckett.... Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" murmured Henry II as per oral tradition. and some of henry's chelas killed beckett.

was henry guilty of murdering beckett? i only saw the movie, and in the final scenes, we see, henry lying bare on his stomach, and whipped to blood, as a penance. the face of peter o'toole, who played henry, one saw, agony and repentence. will someone here repent such for sankararaman?

what if this had happend to one of our own dear ones?

.. and those of us who swear by the court's judgement here, may also remember, how many times, in this very forum, we have questioned the integrity of our justice system.. ;); all 83 witnesses turning hostile? must be first of a kind in the country!!

... and on a bizarre but lighter note.. read this :)
Mr. K,
I had nothing against Mr. Shankararaman, his assailant must be found and punished, even though that may never happen.
I gripe was against people casting doubt against the innocent (or declared not guilty). Once someone is found not guilty under the legal system of the land, and also shown that the prosecution was purely fictional in connecting the person charged with the crime to the crime, it should be end of the matter. No to prosecute and hang the NOT GUILTY party in public forum is similar to stoning the person.

You did not get my drift, I am sorry my mistake.
 
.....Hence, for me as also for people like me (who do not hold the Mutt and the Mutt-heads in esteem) the murder of one comparatively poor & hapless Tabra, Sankararaman, will be more important than Jayendra and/or Vijendra roaming free. Perhaps we all should now condemn outright, Sankararaman's family for their lack of gratitude to their erstwhile bread-earner.
People are taking umbrage that couple of innocent swamigal were treated to gross injustice given they were acquitted. That would be fair point if not for the so many unanswered open questions.


  • Why would anyone want to kill a humble temple manager? What is the motive?
  • Why would five people come forward on their own accord and falsely confess to the murder?
  • Were the false-confessors properly interrogated to ascertain who instigated them to confess?
  • There was a writer who made accusations of sexual nature who later died of heart attack at a relatively young age. Was the complaint and writer's death investigated? Was she in any way connected to the murder of sankararaman?
  • What about the money taken out of the ICICI bank, was it properly accounted for?
  • The widow of the victim has claimed her retraction was because of threats. Who did she receive such threats from? This must be of great significance. Why was this not properly investigated?
  • It also seems she is now ready to change her testimony once again during the appeal process if proper protection is provided, what is this all about? Why should anyone believe somebody who keeps changing her testimony repeatedly?

I heard after the verdict was read out the swamigal took a private jet to Thiruchendur, is this correct? It is nice to have access to a private jet in India.

Dear Sangom, I fully agree with your sentiment that our sympathies must lie with the victim and his family for whom justice is still elusive. However, my sympathy is tempered by the fact they wobbled and changed their testimony. What is the point now in saying at least some must have been found guilty? If the conspirators remain outside the reach of the law why must only the minions face the music?
 
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>> I heard after the verdict was read out the swamigal took a private jet to Thiruchendur, is this correct? It is nice to have access to a private jet in India.

Nara, you are running wild with your imagination! Here is the related news:
http://www.one.in/oneindia-tamil/ஜட...ந்திக்கக்-கிளம்பினார்-ஜெயேந்திரர்-791658.html

Soon after the murder, Subramaniyam Swami raised an issue connected with Mannargudi people (I could not readily find the reference on the net). Anyone has any idea about what it was?
 
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Who will say :nono: to this??
 
Nara, you are running wild with your imagination!
May be, I am willing to be guided by valid answers to the questions that I think still remain open. I f you could point to any of them I will be much obliged.

Did he go in a private jet? Considering the distance between puduchcheri and thiruchchendur, it must have been by air.

regards ...
 
....Who will say to this??
Does this mean you think Sankara Matam used its money power to silence witnesses? That is what the picture you have cited implies? Did I understand you right, correct me if I am wrong.....
 
I would also welcome a fresh investigation into the murder by a totally impartial agency. I also think that neither the present TN government nor the Congress-CBI is capable of doing it.

May be, I am willing to be guided by valid answers to the questions that I think still remain open. I f you could point to any of them I will be much obliged.

Did he go in a private jet? Considering the distance between puduchcheri and thiruchchendur, it must have been by air.

regards ...
 
Looks like Dr Swami will file a complaint against TN Government

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Welcoming the judgement, BJP leader Dr Subramanian Swamy demanded action against Tamil Nadu Chief Minister J Jayalalithaa. He said, "Jayalalithaa should apologise for this. What she has done to the seer is an insult to the Hindu religion. If she does not apologise, she should be sued." Another BJP leader Balbir Punj said that it was a part of the political vendetta and the party was very happy with the judgement.

Unquote
 
Does this mean you think Sankara Matam used its money power to silence witnesses? That is what the picture you have cited implies? Did I understand you right, correct me if I am wrong.....
Dear Prof Sir,

Obviously money has played a huge role in this case. I can't say from which source. The way ALL the accused are released

and the way the victim's family did 'andhar bulti' at the climax, makes anyone suspect under-the-table-activities!

I still wonder why A4 was killed near our colony temple, when he had kept huge money in his house! Did he demand more?? :confused:

Many questions remain unanswered!
 
Dear Prof Sir,

Obviously money has played a huge role in this case. I can't say from which source. The way ALL the accused are released

and the way the victim's family did 'andhar bulti' at the climax, makes anyone suspect under-the-table-activities!

I still wonder why A4 was killed near our colony temple, when he had kept huge money in his house! Did he demand more?? :confused:

Many questions remain unanswered!

Those who live by murdering others end up being murdered .
 
May be, I am willing to be guided by valid answers to the questions that I think still remain open. I f you could point to any of them I will be much obliged.

Did he go in a private jet? Considering the distance between puduchcheri and thiruchchendur, it must have been by air.

regards ...

Saidevo's post #112 gave a link http://www.one.in/oneindia-tamil/ஜட்...1;-791658.html which clearly states that:

\ தீர்ப்புக்கு பின்னர் நீதிமன்ற நெறிமுறைகள் முடிந்த பின்னர் மதியம் 12 மணிக்கு மேல் ஜெயேந்திரர் மட்டும் தனி காரில்திருச்செந்தூர் கோவிலுக்கு புறப்பட்டு சென்றார்.

Still you keep repeating did he go in a private jet, private jet!
 
This is conveniently considered only as a murder case. The hatred shown by some section on the Acharyal and the Math, even after His acquittal has gone unnoticed. It is for the police to find out the actual culprits, who murdered Sankararaman. But the interests of the Math should be guarded only by the devotees of the Math. Followers of the Math should be aware of and careful about some vested interests, who indulge in hate campaign against Sankaracharya.
 
நமது மனம் எங்கெங்கே ஓடுகிறதோ அதை பொருத்து நிறைய குற்றச்சாட்டுகளை அடுக்கலாம். எனக்கு ஒருவரை பிடிக்கவில்லை என்றால் அவரை பற்றி நிறைய புரளியும் பேசலாம். அதை நம்புவதற்கு target audience இருந்தால் போதும்.
 
so it is not against folks who seek justice for that poor brahmin sankararaman? thank you prasad. i am quite sure, that as a u.s. resident, by and large, you are on the side of the underdog. here is a poor man with no money, murdered.

a temple trustee, who was a gadfly to the kanchi mutt, mainly because he openly and loudly disagrees with some of the policies of the mutt... and then he gets murdered.

{snipped}

what if this had happend to one of our own dear ones?

I would like categorically state that Sri Sankararaman's murderers should be brought to justice and I am only addressing the highlighted portion of the message.

My counter question is What if Sankaracharya or for that matter any the other accused happens to be my own dear one? Do you have any answer for that? Why should I have to undergo mental turmoil of arrest and humiliation
of my dear ones arising out of this false charges and accusations?

.. and those of us who swear by the court's judgement here, may also remember, how many times, in this very forum, we have questioned the integrity of our justice system.. ;); all 83 witnesses turning hostile? must be first of a kind in the country!!

You surely know that there were 189 witnesses in all and 103 witnesses who were not hostile and who deposed in favour of the prosecution, didnt they? Why lose sight of that? Why say all 83 witnesses?

maybe it is something like what happened to beckett....
Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" murmured Henry II as per oral tradition. and some of henry's chelas killed beckett.

was henry guilty of murdering beckett? i only saw the movie, and in the final scenes, we see, henry lying bare on his stomach, and whipped to blood, as a penance. the face of peter o'toole, who played henry, one saw, agony and repentence. will someone here repent such for sankararaman?

Though cinemas, dramas and TV serials have some connection with the reality one should not go overboard in comparisons.
 
Ignorance is bliss. I am sure that you do not know any thing about the Chandrasekara Saraswathy and Kamakoti Math. You would have been so happy if Kanchi Acharyas were found guilty. Some people do not want good things to happen. It seems you are one among them.
 
Nov 29, 2013

dear sir,


smartha sambradaya was formed in the first century ad, whereas adi

sankara belonged to 6th or 7th century ad.


Namboodris may not be the followers of smartha sambaradaya, because their

presiding deity is krishna, whereas lord shiva is for smarthas. If they are

smarthas, they may not have different name like namboodri. Their culture is

totally different from smarthas. They control the krishna temples of

guruvayur and badrinath.


If they are migrants from north, they also might have the same sub sect of

tamil iyers. Palghat iyers have the same sub sect, since they migrated from

tanjore district.


It is a mystery why tamil speaking smarthas follow sankara mutts, when

ramanuja (a smartha by birth - vadama) advocated a different theory. His

theory has to be studied in depth to know whether it agrees with saivite

principle.

Similar comparison should also be made between namboodri's sambrayada

and adi sankar's teachings, since sankara mutt never recognizes widows.

Discrimination of human beings in the name of sambradaya is not proper, and

saivite principles never approve this - arthanareeswara is a perfect example.


Identifying the originality of sringeri and kanchi is not relevant today, since

both are not propagating pure smartha principles; they are pseudo vaishnavites.

Both sringeri and kanchi always talk about ramayana and mahabharatha and not

saivite works like thevaram, thiruvasakam, thiruvembavai, peria puranam etc.

Wearing vibhuthi and preaching vaishnavite philosophy by both is against the

basic principle of saivism and lord shiva worship.


S chandrasekaran
 
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