Think it over!

[Visalakshi Ramani]

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NOTHING is either completely black or completely white!
We have infinite shades of grey in between these two.
The same way the nature and severity of the misdeeds are sure to vary from person to person.
That will determine the severity of the punishment...if I am allowed to use the word.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

உருவமும், பிறவியும்!




ஒவ்வொரு பிறவியில், ஒவ்வொரு உருவம்;
ஒவ்வொரு வடிவம், ஒவ்வொரு அறிவு.

ஏன் இந்த மாற்றம்? ஏன் இந்த ஏற்றம்?
ஏன் இந்த வடிவம்? ஏன் இந்த அறிவு?

நாம் செய்யும் செயல்களைக் கண்டும்,
நாம் எண்ணும் எண்ணங்களைக் கொண்டும்,

இறைவன் வகுக்கிறான் நம் அடுத்த பிறவியை
உடலை, அறிவை; நம் வடிவை, செயலை.

இசையை விரும்பிக் கற்க நினைப்பவன்,
இசைக் குடும்பத்தில் வந்து பிறக்கிறான்.

ஈசனை அறியும் ஞானம் விழைபவன்,
யோகியர் சுற்றத்தில் வந்து பிறக்கிறான்.

“உண்ணுவதே தொழில்!”, என்று இருப்பவன்,
ஊன் வளர்க்கும் ஒரு விலங்காய்ப் பிறக்கிறான்.

“உடல் போகமே என் யோகமே!”, என்று திரிபவன்,
கடைத்தேற முடியா இழி பிறவி எய்துகிறான்.

வஞ்சக நெஞ்சகம் கொண்டு வாழ்ந்தவன்,
நெஞ்சுரம் இல்லா நரியாய்ப் பிறக்கிறான்.

எச்சிலை உண்டு வாழ்ந்து மகிழ்ந்தவன்,
மிச்சம் இல்லாதுண்ணும் காக்கை ஆகிறான்.

ஒருவர் சொத்தை ஏய்த்துப் பறித்தவன்,
கரையான் புற்றில் பாம்பாய் வாழ்கிறான்

பணத்தைச் சேர்த்துப் புதைத்து வைத்தவன்,
புதையல் காக்கும் பெரும் பூதமாக ஆகிறான்.

மனித நேயத்துடன், மனிதனாக வாழ்பவனே,
மனிதனாகப் பிறக்கும் வாய்ப்புப் பெறுகிறான்!

வையத்து வாழ்வாங்கு வாழ்பவர் வானுறையும்
தெய்வத்துள் வைக்கப்படுவர் அல்லவா?

இப்பிறவியில் மனிதராய் பிறந்துள்ள நாம்,
மறுபிறவியில் தெய்வமாக மாற முயலுவோம்!

வாழ்க வளமுடன்,
விசாலாக்ஷி ரமணி.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

ருசியும், வாசனையும்!




ருசியும், வாசனையும் உணவுக்கு மட்டுமல்ல;
ருசியும், வாசனையும் பிறவிக்கும் தேவை.

மணக்க மணக்க உண்டபின், ருசி நாவிலும்,
மணம் கையிலும், நெடு நேரம் தங்கிவிடும்.

அனுபவித்த பொருட்களின் பலவிதத் தாக்கம்,
மனதினில் மாறாமல் நிலை கொண்டிருக்கும்.

நமக்கு பிடித்த பொருட்களில், நமக்கு ருசி;
நமக்கு அவை வேண்டுமென்ற அவா, வாசனை.

நாம் எடுக்கும் பிறவிகள் அனைத்துமே,
நம் ருசி, வாசனைகளைப் பொறுத்தவையே !

இசையில் ஆர்வம், நடனத்தில் நாட்டம் ,
இயலில் ஆர்வம், நாடகத்தில் நாட்டம் ,

கலைகளில் நாட்டம் , கற்பதில் ஆர்வம்,
சிலை வடிப்பதில் சிந்தனை என நம்மால்,

காரணம் கூற முடியாத ஆசைகளை, நம்
கண்மணிகளிடம் நாம் காண்கின்றோமே!

எங்கிருந்து வந்தன இந்த ஆர்வங்கள்?
எப்படி உண்டாயின இந்த நாட்டங்கள்?

பூர்வ ஜன்மத்து ருசியும், வாசனையும்,
ஆர்வமாய் அவரைப் பின்தொடருவதாலே!

நல்ல ருசிகளையும், நல்ல வாசனைகளையும்,
நாமும் நித்தம் மேற்கொள்ள வேண்டும்.

இப்பிறவியில் மட்டுமின்றி அவை எல்லாம் ,
எப்பிறவியிலும் நமக்கு பயக்கும் நன்மையே.

வாழ்க வளமுடன்,
விசாலாக்ஷி ரமணி.

 

[ozone]

Photos in #3370,#3371,#3372 and #3373
If #3373 is taken as a right reference for orientation, the photo in #3371 appears upside down.
Can some one confirm or explain?

 

[amala]

NOTHING is either completely black or completely white!
We have infinite shades of grey in between these two.

As long as its not 50 shades of grey, its all good!

 

[Raji Ram]

Photos in #3370,#3371,#3372 and #3373
If #3373 is taken as a right reference for orientation, the photo in #3371 appears upside down.
Can some one confirm or explain?

I think this explanation is correct! The photo is taken when the moon sets!

Please see this note given along with this picture:

"Though blue moons don't actually appear blue, one stargazer named Tom Sajinsa whimsically tinted the moon blue in a photo

he took of the full disk this morning from New York City."

Ref: Blue Moon of 2012: First Photos from Stargazers | Space.com

P.S: I could guess this because I have seen upside down full moons a few times!! :thumb:

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

So the Blue Moon had to appear upside down to make

the once-in-a blue-moon visitors enter this thread!

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Another Shankaral with a very keen observation! :spy: :clap2:

Even the hawk-eyed-me (owl-eyed according to my husband) missed seeing it!

Photos in #3370,#3371,#3372 and #3373
If #3373 is taken as a right reference for orientation, the photo in #3371 appears upside down.
Can some one confirm or explain?

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Man
Man is a microcosm, or a little world,
because he is an extract from
all the stars and the planets
of the whole firmament,
from the earth and the elements,
and so he is their quintessence.
Paracelsus.

It sounds so similar to our own theory of
panchee karanam of the pancha boothas. :shocked:

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

இது எப்படி இருக்கு?

அவனுக்குக் கோபம் கோபமாக வந்தது!

இப்படியா இரட்டைப் பிறவிகள் போல் இருக்கும்?

ஒரே உயரம்! ஒரே மாதிரிக் கொம்புகள்!!

ஒரே மாதிரி வால்கள்! ஒரே மாதிரி திமில்கள்!!

நண்பன் கேட்டான் அவனிடம் கனிவுடன்,

"எதைப் பற்றி அலுத்துக் கொள்ளுகிறாய் நீ?"

அவன் சுட்டிக் காட்டியது என்ன தெரியுமா?
ஒரு காராம்பசு, ஒரு வெள்ளைப் பசு! :faint:

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

பெரிய விஞ்ஞானி அவர்.

வளர்ப்புப் பூனைகள் தொல்லை செய்தன! :whoo:

வரும், போகும், அவற்றின் இஷ்டத்திற்கு!

திறக்கச் சொல்லிக் கதவைப் பிராண்டும்!

ஒரு வழியாக ஒரு நல்ல தீர்வு கண்டார். :happy:

கதவில் இரண்டு ஓட்டைகள் போட்டார்!

தாய் பூனை அளவுக்கு ஒன்று பெரியது!

குட்டிப் பூனை அளவுக்கு ஒன்று சிறியது!

நண்பரிடம் சிரித்துக் கொண்டே விளக்கவும் அவர் கேட்டார்

"ஒரு ஓட்டையே போதுமே! தாய்க்குப் பின்னல் குட்டிகள் செல்லுமே!"

யானைக்கும் அடி சறுக்கும் அறிவீர் உலகீரே!

விஞ்ஞானிக்குக் காலை வாரும் புதிர்களும் உண்டு!!!

 

[Amirtha]

Nothing but the Theory of Karma can explain such mysteries
beyond our feeble perception and feebler understanding!!! :tsk:

Dear Visalakshmi,

It is really very sad the see the Karma theory goes like this in our thinking. This is what I think of karma theory.

Karma theory is fear mongering theory put into our mind so that we wont commit any abnormal or wrong doing to the society. It is easy escape for humans to get along with their life without psychologically/physiologically/physically affecting themselves. Our (Hindu) ancestors were brilliant. When you don’t know something or don’t want to take responsibility of a situation, whether it is personal or global, we blame it on karma and walk away silently without even thinking. I am not saying we have to intervene every single time. But at least we can be empathetic.



Probably our ancestors meant good. May be they really meant the karma theory, every action got reaction, so be careful what you do. Which is true and we all know that. But I think somehow, it was misinterpreted. I don’t really understand how still people think about poorva janma papam and all. Because we all know we get 23 chromosomes from mother and 23 chromosomes from father. And the genes attached those chromosomes are historical, i.e we get it from our ancestors. So each and every time you make a baby, it is unique. So we are not going to born again. So there goes poorva janma karma theory.

Kind Regards
Amirtha

 

[Raji Ram]

So the Blue Moon had to appear upside down to make

the once-in-a blue-moon visitors enter this thread!

I feel bad! The person who found the upside down moon is appreciated where as the one who tried
to give an explanation goes without even a 'like' from the generous person! opcorn:

PS: Reason for occasional visit is because, I often remember the beggar's story, in which he says

'என்னைக்கும் போடாத ஸ்ரீதேவி இன்னிக்குப் போட்டாள்! . . . ' (ennaikkum pOdAdha Sreedevi innaikkup pOttAL! . . . )

and அளவுக்கு மிஞ்சினால் அமிர்தமும் நஞ்சு! (alavukku minjinAl amirthamum nanju!)

 

[Raji Ram]

......... Probably our ancestors meant good. May be they really meant the karma theory, every action got reaction, so be careful what you do. .......

At least if the people have the fear, they will try to be :angel:s. I think, many old people suffer silently with Karma theory in their mind -

suffer in this janmA and thus avoid more births! Otherwise, world will be full of 'mercy killings'!! :dizzy:

 

[renuka]

Karma theory is 100% logic. I feel without Karma theory nothing can be explained.
Without Karma theory life and existence is meaningless.

 

[renuka]

Nowadays silence is a better option to even harmless discussion of any subject.

Things are either:

1)misunderstood
2)blown out of proportion
3)turned into gossip.

Rather remain silent than to be an indirect causative factor for the 3 listed above.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Oh dear! I meant Mr. O3 who likes to play hide and seek with me!
He will be there but invincible, inaudible and as a silent spectator!
I require some foot notes ...
என்னைக்கும் போடாத......what???
ஸ்ரீதேவி...........................who???
அளவுக்கு மிஞ்சினால் அமிர்தமும் நஞ்சு...who /what/ when/ why/ how/ where??? (in Mrs. K. B. S's style)

I feel bad! The person who found the upside down moon is appreciated where as the one who tried
to give an explanation goes without even a 'like' from the generous person! opcorn:

PS: Reason for occasional visit is because, I often remember the beggar's story, in which he says

'என்னைக்கும் போடாத ஸ்ரீதேவி இன்னிக்குப் போட்டாள்! . . . ' (ennaikkum pOdAdha Sreedevi innaikkup pOttAL! . . . )

and அளவுக்கு மிஞ்சினால் அமிர்தமும் நஞ்சு! (alavukku minjinAl amirthamum nanju!)

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Is it Renu speaking thus??? :faint:
There will be no Forum without you my lady! :nono:

Nowadays silence is a better option to even harmless discussion of any subject.

Things are either:

1)misunderstood
2)blown out of proportion
3)turned into gossip.

Rather remain silent than to be an indirect causative factor for the 3 listed above.

 

[renuka]

Is it Renu speaking thus??? :faint:
There will be no Forum without you my lady! :nono:

No No!

I was talking about day to day life where we deal with people.

I have come to realize that sometimes old age is not = to wisdom.

In fact it is very scary to even discuss about anything with an older person these days..after a while the whole subject is misunderstood,blown out of proportion or even turned into gossip.

I was saying this cos I know of a person who had suffered all her life in poverty and had gone hungry enough times to feed her children cos her husband earned very less since he did not attend school.

Today that lady who is a widow is living very comfortably becos her son has done well in life and bought a huge house for his mother.

Now everyone who was well off to start with and watched that person suffer is envious when they see the lady live in comfort and style.

Can't they think that it is her good time to enjoy all the hard years of effort and hardwork?
Even when she dresses up nicely now everyone is saying that "Oh look at her..see how she is dressing up when she has no husband.
Have you seen her house? how she used to live and see how she is today" and everyone is real jealous of her and her family now.


If you even tell anyone that Mrs so and so is happy now,dresses well etc..before you know it someone will be commenting that a widow should know how to dress.

If you say her son is so loving and bought a big car for his mum before you know it someone will say "Oh does she even know how to spell the name of the car"

It is shocking to see old people talk like this.
That's why I said it's better to remain silent and not even breathe a word about somebody else's success and well being.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Dear Visalakshmi,

It is really very sad the see the Karma theory goes like this in our thinking. This is what I think of karma theory.

Karma theory is fear mongering theory put into our mind so that we wont commit any abnormal or wrong doing to the society. It is easy escape for humans to get along with their life without psychologically/physiologically/physically affecting themselves. Our (Hindu) ancestors were brilliant. When you don’t know something or don’t want to take responsibility of a situation, whether it is personal or global, we blame it on karma and walk away silently without even thinking. I am not saying we have to intervene every single time. But at least we can be empathetic.



Probably our ancestors meant good. May be they really meant the karma theory, every action got reaction, so be careful what you do. Which is true and we all know that. But I think somehow, it was misinterpreted. I don’t really understand how still people think about poorva janma papam and all. Because we all know we get 23 chromosomes from mother and 23 chromosomes from father. And the genes attached those chromosomes are historical, i.e we get it from our ancestors. So each and every time you make a baby, it is unique. So we are not going to born again. So there goes poorva janma karma theory.

Kind Regards
Amirtha

Dear Amirtha,

Thank you for the feedback. Just try to answer my simple question.

Under the same stars with the same horoscope three children are born.

One is born as a heir of rich man. The second as the son of a laborer and the third as a son of a beggar.

If the horoscope determines their lives, fortunes and future they should be identical to all the three.

So there is something else which determines our lives, fortunes and future.

That is what we did in the past life.

Even foreigners are accepting the theory of rebirth now.

Why don't the chromosomes of the father and mother produce identical children?

Who decides which particular chromosomes are utilized in making the baby.

We are four sisters and each one is gifted in a different way!

Our aptitudes differ; our abilities differ and our activities differ.

There is more in life than that meets the eyes.

Nothing is either created or destroyed but they manifest from one form into another.

The same is true of mass as well energy and also their combination.

Nothing comes out of nothing.

Nothing disappears into nothing.

Accepting or denying rebirth is your birthright.

But our ancestors knew better.

I will never doubt their wisdom and common sense.

with warm regards,
V.R

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Well if she had sacrificed her own needs and brought up her son to become a successful person
she certainly deserves to live in a big house with all comforts at the dusk of her life.
Remember the old song
Vaazhnthaalum esum thaazhnthaalum esum
vaiyagam ithu thaanadaa

No No!

I was talking about day to day life where we deal with people.

I have come to realize that sometimes old age is not = to wisdom.

In fact it is very scary to even discuss about anything with an older person these days..after a while the whole subject is misunderstood,blown out of proportion or even turned into gossip.

I was saying this cos I know of a person who had suffered all her life in poverty and had gone hungry enough times to feed her children cos her husband earned very less since he did not attend school.

Today that lady who is a widow is living very comfortably becos her son has done well in life and bought a huge house for his mother.

Now everyone who was well off to start with and watched that person suffer is envious when they see the lady live in comfort and style.

Can they think that it is her good time to enjoy all the hard years of effort and hardwork?
Even when she dresses up nicely now everyone is saying that "Oh look at her..see how she is dressing up when she has no husband.
Have you seen her house? how she used to live and see how she is today" and everyone is real jealous of her and her family now.

It is shocking to see old people talk like this.

 

[Raji Ram]

1. Oh dear! I meant Mr. O3 who likes to play hide and seek with me!
He will be there but invincible, inaudible and as a silent spectator!

2. I require some foot notes ...
என்னைக்கும் போடாத......what???
ஸ்ரீதேவி...........................who???
3. அளவுக்கு மிஞ்சினால் அமிர்தமும் நஞ்சு...who /what/ when/ why/ how/ where??? (in Mrs. K. B. S's style)

1. Oh dear dear! I thought you meant me. Sorry!

2. You must be knowing that story for sure!

3. I want to participate with 'aLavu' in our forum but since I read a lot of posts, my activity does not seem to reduce!

P.S: There is another member who has 99.6% activity, even without writing any post since 19-07-2012! :ranger:

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

carvaaka vs chatur vaaka
caru + vaaka = carvaaka = agreeable speech (for the masses)
chatur + vaaka = chaturvaaka (clever speech)

Karma theory is 100% logic. I feel without Karma theory nothing can be explained.
Without Karma theory life and existence is meaningless.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Who is the busybody catching up with the old posts???
What happened to the 0.4% anyway???

1. Oh dear dear! I thought you meant me. Sorry!

2. You must be knowing that story for sure!

3. I want to participate with 'aLavu' in our forum but since I read a lot of posts, my activity does not seem to reduce!

P.S: There is another member who has 99.6% activity, even without writing any post since 19-07-2012! :ranger:

 

[Raji Ram]

One of my second cousins also told like Renu! She told that her sister misunderstands even the casual comments.

It seems once she told her sister that the flooring of my house (we relaid it a few years back) looks very nice and

the next moment her sister retorted, 'Do you mean that the flooring of my house is horrible?' :whip: