Think it over!

[Brahmanyan]

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Small Choices, Big Outcomes

"Greatness is built upon our seemingly insignificant daily choices"
Says Sara Yoheved Rigler a Jewish Author who had spent 15 years living in an Ashram in India. The following piece is taken from her writings "Small Choices, Big Outcomes":


"According to Judaism, God controls everything in the universe except our moral choices. “Free will” refers to that area beyond heredity and environment where you can go either way. Whenever you feel an inner push-pull (“I really should pick up that litter, but I don’t want to get my hands dirty.”), you are in the realm of your own free choice, known as your Choice Box.

Everyone has an individual Choice Box. Some people would not anguish over whether or not to lend $500 to an out-of-work friend. If you would never consider doing it, it’s above your Choice Box. If you would do it as a matter of course, with no hesitation, it’s below your Choice Box. If you would struggle with, “He really needs the money to pay his rent, but chances are he won’t be able to pay me back, and there goes my pool membership for the next season,” then you are within your Choice Box."

Wonderful message indeed.
Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

 

[Raghy]

Sowbagyavathy VR, Greetings.

I refer to your message in post #1875. Your observation about that lady archer picture was very nice. So, why this picture was found in a soft porn site? Yes, there is much more to that picture. Her leggings stop at mid thigh level; her tops stop just below her navel. Also, she would not have drawn that bow on her own. Thanks for your appreciation!

I noticed, you side stepped my note about the sculptures in the temples. Not only yourself, but I noticed, none of the audience mentioned about that either. I am sure, every one of us have noticed those real life like, elegant, beautiful scuptures. But we seldom acknowledge the glamour side of it.

When I was 16 years old, I was searching a gift shop for greeting cards. I wanted to choose a nice greeting card for a young lady. I came across this card with a sculpture and bought that ( fortunately, bought few more nice cards with flowers back ground, temples background too). Came back to my room, when I was about to write the young lady's name & address on the card, I had a close look at that card.... A part of my anatomy sprang to attention! That sculpture was an erotic sculpture from Khajuraho! That was the first time I heard of that place. ( I didn't send that card. In fact, I saved that card for about 8 years and gave it to my wife to be!). I noticed in most of the ancient and old temples, very attractive statues are placed on the way to the sanctum sanctorum. Most of those statues, if ladies, are sculptured with very nicely and full rounded breasts, almost realistic hips and backside and most of them with as little dress as possible and the male statues are real handsome and with various scenes of display of valor. Te lady statues are so smooth, it almost invites you to touch it; from the discolorations, we can see, those statues are touched on the breast and on the inside of the thighs.

Our ancestors were brilliant. They knew, it would be near impossible to control moha just be pouring cold water on the head and involving in Rama or Krishna Japam. Those attractive staues are the invitations placed by our ancestors to bring out the animals from the depth of our minds. They placed such statues every where in a temple, but very particularly, on the way to sanctum sanctorum to indicate one can not attain the God or self realisation without overcoming such senses. All the persons who touched and caressed such statues physically and mentally lost their battle on that day. But our ancestors message was simple - it was like, 'never mind! She is not going anywhere! Comeback tomorrow and look at her until you loose interest in her!' One day we do realise that statue is nothing but a piece of rock, fashioned that way, it has no mind. it poses for everyone...blah, blah..... then we like to get a girl/man just for us who would talk, resppond, love, fight..... until we realise moha is a desire for just a piece of flesh. How we overcome moha is not important; there are many methods for that. Which ever suits us, we just take that.

But overcoming moha at the ripe old age is just lame! One does not have to give up moha altogether. We should control moha; we should not be controlled by moha.

Our mind is a jungle. We have animals of various sizes and shapes. We have to overcome all of them, every one of them to attain self realisation. To identify the existence of each animal is one realisation. We can find any one animal only by self examining. Unless we know who we are, we can not become the one 'who we want to be'. We have to have the baseline observations about ourselves so that we will know our own progress.

In one of my earlier messages, I mention about tantric method and gave an example about my food choices. That food choice comes under 'mada'. I am arrogant to reject other food unless it is cooked the way I like it; served in a way I like it! That is one more animal in my jungle! Did I overcome that? No sir! My DIL frantically writes down my receipes and cooking procedure with intermittent notes is petrified to cook anything! She is very afraid, I may make a negative comment about her cooking! My animal is winning the battle and laughing at me!

I am adding a vedio of sclptures of Belur to show what I mean about life like statues of beautiful girls. This addition is an after thought.

Dancers of Belur - YouTube

Cheers!

 

[renuka]

But overcoming moha at the ripe old age is just lame! One does not have to give up moha altogether. We should control moha; we should not be controlled by moha.

Cheers!

I sometimes feel Moha is like Wine..it gets better as it matures!!

(BTW I do not drink alcohol)

 

[renuka]

Dear Raghy ji,

But I sometimes feel the bodies of the woman in temple carvings are FAT!
They have too wide hips,too big breasts,muffin top skin folds at their waist,wide thighs,flabby arms and skinny legs.

That type of body predisposes a person to metabolic syndrome.!!LOL

 

[renuka]

Dear Raghyji,

This I must share with you..last week I went to Saravana Bhavan here to have some nice veg food and thayir sadam.
Ok Saravana Bhavan is a haunt for TBs from India and other Indians from India who are vegetarian.

I was looking at most females seated there and could not help observing the size of their hips and I told my husband that "you see I am going to tell you which woman is from which state in India just by looking at their hips size"

My husband was 'What!! how can you identify?"

I said wait and watch...

1st one I told him is TB..broad low set hips.

2nd one is from Kerala.. really broad hips with saddle bag thighs.

He didn't believe me but then I told him pay close attention to the language they are speaking.

Sure enough the 1st one spoke Iyer Bhasa and 2nd one was talking Malayalam.

My husband was asking me "how on earth you know this?"

I said "years of observing hips in India!"

 

[Raghy]

I sometimes feel Moha is like Wine..it gets better as it matures!!

(BTW I do not drink alcohol)

Sowbagyavathy dear Renuka, Greetings.

It is true, moha is better exhibited as we become older. But there comes a time, moha becomes more psychological than physical. But personally I lked those acrobatic unions and bold and thrilling unions we enjoyed in those yester years!

Cheers!

Cheers!

 

[Raghy]

Dear Raghy ji,

But I sometimes feel the bodies of the woman in temple carvings are FAT!
They have too wide hips,too big breasts,muffin top skin folds at their waist,wide thighs,flabby arms and skinny legs.

That type of body predisposes a person to metabolic syndrome.!!LOL

Sowbagyavathy Renuka,

Temple statues are brilliant! Yes, they have a bit too large breasts ( breast enlargments in those days!?) and wider hips. I still think they were invitation cards, meant to draw attention. So, there has to be 'Wow' factor in that. I think they are purposely made larger to get maximum attractions.

Cheers!

 

[renuka]

Sowbagyavathy dear Renuka, Greetings.

It is true, moha is better exhibited as we become older. But there comes a time, moha becomes more psychological than physical. But personally I lked those acrobatic unions and bold and thrilling unions we enjoyed in those yester years!

Cheers!

Cheers!

You know after I read the Kama Sutra I used to wonder that why India never gets the Gold Medal for Gymnastics in Olympics.
Looking at the gravity defying,beyond imagination acrobats and flexibility in it we Indians should be taking home every gold medal!

 

[renuka]

Sowbagyavathy Renuka,

Temple statues are brilliant! Yes, they have a bit too large breasts ( breast enlargments in those days!?) and wider hips. I still think they were invitation cards, meant to draw attention. So, there has to be 'Wow' factor in that. I think they are purposely made larger to get maximum attractions.

Cheers!

But the "wow" has to come with better legs and more muscle tone!!

You know poets always even describe Goddesses as having breast bigger than the frontal protuberance of an elephant and also describing the goddess to be slightly bent forward owing to the weight of her breasts.

Raghy ji ..tell me this..in the medical profession have you ever seen any female walk bent becos of her enormous breasts?

The imagination of these poets can really run wild.

 

[Brahmanyan]

Think it over

Dear Raghy ji,

But I sometimes feel the bodies of the woman in temple carvings are FAT!
They have too wide hips,too big breasts,muffin top skin folds at their waist,wide thighs,flabby arms and skinny legs.

That type of body predisposes a person to metabolic syndrome.!!LOL

Dear Doctor,

I believe the medical knowledge in yourself must have come to your help in discovering the subtle changes in the anatomy of women in the carvings you have observed. However you may know "Art" in any form itself is exaggeration which may distort realistic features, characteristics, and situations from realistic to fantastic.
As a student of Sanskrit you must have come across such exaggerations in the description of women in Kalidasa's works.

Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

 

[renuka]

Dear Doctor,

I believe the medical knowledge in yourself must have come to your help in discovering the subtle changes in the anatomy of women in the carvings you have observed. However you may know "Art" in any form itself is exaggeration which may distort realistic features, characteristics, and situations from realistic to fantastic.
As a student of Sanskrit you must have come across such exaggerations in the description of women in Kalidasa's works.

Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

Dear sir,

I fully agree about the Kalidasa's work..reading Raghuvamsam I once actually flipped the cover to see if it was really Raghuvamsam or some other book cos the description about the the character of King Agnivarna and his escapades was like some X rated movie!LOL

 

[C RAVI]

Sex/Lust/Moham is the integral part of human survival.

Out Vedic People had enough wisdom to channelize Sex/Lust/Moham in right perspective.

These were considered as pure essence of intimate relationship between the couples with love and respect towards each other.

These were honored as divine actions for which Rathi and Manmathan are the perpetrators.


Sex between couples were never considered as hindrance for their spiritual growth. In fact these are must to achieve the spiritual growth of the couples, who as humans are integrated with sense of Love/Sex/Lust/Moham.

The sex education were considered imperative. And at the same time these were considered as a honorable and must needed fulfillment without ignoring the human sense of honoring the God's creation, without devaluing the values, emotions, respect, self dignity and admiration of Male and Female species.

Lacking of Love/Sex/Lust/Moham between the couples were attempted to be eliminated and couples were encouraged to be actively fulfilling the physical needs of each other Without any animal instinct of HUNT, ENJOY and IGNORE in order to go on with another new encounter. OR go out in search of another person to fulfill one's need, having been deprived by the spouse.

As such, such mind/hormone stimulating sculptures were designed extensively in Temples and propagated along with the attempt to retain the sense of spirituality and virtues in Human species.

Such sense of Love/Sex/Lust/Moham was stimulated in right spirit Linking them with the sense of Spirituality, that would retain the true essence of relationship, virtues and spirituality between the couples.

Thus, Such scriptures were designed in Temples that neither spoiled the sanctity of the Temple Nor were destructive to the mere human senses who all visit temple with their sense of Bakthi and Shradha, with their belief in God and Spirituality.


BUT

Today, Love/Sex/Lust/Moham has just became a recreation to be indulged in, right from the stage of adolescence. 1000s of Porn sites are vibrating the internet cloud and posing unwanted challenges and creating havoc in human life, for one self and for the people associated with miss leaded/wrongly motivated/perverted folks. And perversion is dominating over Spirituality and Virtues.

 

[renuka]

BUT

Today, Love/Sex/Lust/Moham has just became a recreation to be indulged in, right from the stage of adolescence. 1000s of Porn sites are vibrating the internet cloud and posing unwanted challenges and creating havoc in human life, for one self and for the people associated with miss leaded/wrongly motivated/perverted folks. And perversion is dominating over Spirituality and Virtues.

Wow Ravi,

I didn't know that even Porn sites had Sahasranamam!!LOL

So what is the Phala Shruti here? Ha Ha Ha Ha

 

[renuka]

Sex/Lust/Moham is the integral part of human survival.

Out Vedic People had enough wisdom to channelize Sex/Lust/Moham in right perspective.

These were considered as pure essence of intimate relationship between the couples with love and respect towards each other.

These were honored as divine actions for which Rathi and Manmathan are the perpetrators.


Sex between couples were never considered as hindrance for their spiritual growth. In fact these are must to achieve the spiritual growth of the couples, who as humans are integrated with sense of Love/Sex/Lust/Moham.

The sex education were considered imperative. And at the same time these were considered as a honorable and must needed fulfillment without ignoring the human sense of honoring the God's creation, without devaluing the values, emotions, respect, self dignity and admiration of Male and Female species.

Lacking of Love/Sex/Lust/Moham between the couples were attempted to be eliminated and couples were encouraged to be actively fulfilling the physical needs of each other Without any animal instinct of HUNT, ENJOY and IGNORE in order to go on with another new encounter. OR go out in search of another person to fulfill one's need, having been deprived by the spouse.

As such, such mind/hormone stimulating sculptures were designed extensively in Temples and propagated along with the attempt to retain the sense of spirituality and virtues in Human species.

Such sense of Love/Sex/Lust/Moham was stimulated in right spirit Linking them with the sense of Spirituality, that would retain the true essence of relationship, virtues and spirituality between the couples.

Thus, Such scriptures were designed in Temples that neither spoiled the sanctity of the Temple Nor were destructive to the mere human senses who all visit temple with their sense of Bakthi and Shradha, with their belief in God and Spirituality.


BUT

Today, Love/Sex/Lust/Moham has just became a recreation to be indulged in, right from the stage of adolescence. 1000s of Porn sites are vibrating the internet cloud and posing unwanted challenges and creating havoc in human life, for one self and for the people associated with miss leaded/wrongly motivated/perverted folks. And perversion is dominating over Spirituality and Virtues.

Dear Ravi,

Kama and Moha are Kama and Moha only.
There is no such thing as legitimate and illegitimate Kama and Moha.
Our scriptures clearly say we have to get over Kama and Moha eventually and that means every type of Kama and Moha with no exceptions.

So I do not really think that Kama and Moha between husband and wife is one step higher or purer than any other Kama and Moha.

लोभात् क्रोधः प्रभवति लोभात् कामः प्रजायते
लोभात् मोहश्च नाशश्च लोभः पापस्य कारणम्


Transliteration:
lobhaat krodhaH prabhavati lobhaat kaamaH prajaayate
lobhaat mohashcha naashashcha lobhaH paapasya kaaraNam​

From greed originates anger; greed gives rise to lust/desire; from greed (come) attachment and ruin; greed is the cause for sin.

 

[Brahmanyan]

Dear sir,

I fully agree about the Kalidasa's work..reading Raghuvamsam I once actually flipped the cover to see if it was really Raghuvamsam or some other book cos the description about the the character of King Agnivarna and his escapades was like some X rated movie!LOL

Dear Doctor,

Oh. yes ! Kalidasa was a grand master in descriptive writings. His use of Sanskrit language is inimitable. When we were young students of Sanskrit in a coeducation school, the description of Indumathi swayamvaram in Raghuvamsam or Parvathi in Kumarasambavam used to bring out giggles from both sides of the class.

Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Both are extraordinary incidents!
Mr. TVK ONLY SAW the accident.
Thank God he was outside and not inside the bus.
So both are not mishaps but unusual happenings
as far as Mr. AK 47 is concerned!

So, seeing Bus accident on Gemini Flyover is similar to seeing me on Skype??!!?? Its a mishap??!??

ound:

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

PSYCHO therapy to prepare the bus travelers??? :scared:

One posting in my Son's friend to friend in face book clearly showed the driver seat was broken..He was inside the bus & took that photo...eventhough he was slightely injured..So the theory circulating is the bus took the left turn in more than normal speed [ which the 17M & 11J buses do every time because of arrogancy of the drivers.] and since the driver seat was broken suddenly..he lost controll..

May god help the passengers to take a unbreakable seat and the best thing is to travel by standing..in such case either you will be thrown out or CRUSHED altogether..and the end will be the same..!!

TVK

Or

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

The driver of the bus was talking on his mobile
just before the bus FLEW OVER the FLYOVER! lane:

For an accident of this nature :fear:
the result is far better than what we would fear! :hail:

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Now, HERE is a REAL lady among us, ready to say sorry

and patch up instead of doing these

out: and :mad2: and :mmph:!!!

Hello Ravi sir , its nice and happy that you are in chennai as VR Mam stated. post 1914.i hope you are back to the full form and to the forum. i basically do not want to avoid ,/leave any friends on any cost .eagerly waiting for the fun filled ,enthu ,positive attitude back in you .:sorry: ,if you are hurted my words. I respect all people and their views ,what be the age ,gender. see you soon.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

We believe you guruji!
No need to swear!! :high5:

post 1901#
dear ravi !
it is very very old twisted question
a,b &c originally spent 45 &got back 3 .so the net expenditure is 42 .the owner retained only 40 (45-5)the dif of 2 bet the exp & the owner got is 2 which went to the waiter.
it took me 3 minutes (it is honest declaration )
guruvayurappan

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

God is LOVE and LOVE is God! :angel:

Love expresses itself in many subtle forms
including mercy and forbearance...
the chief characteristics of God.

If He starts punishing men
for their mistakes :whip:
the way men do...:scared:

Dear Mrs. Visalakshi Ramani,

Good question. But I cannot offer an answer for certain. Concept of God differs from person to person basing on the attributes that one believe in that word. In general, as for me, being a good human being with abundant love and compassion itself is Godliness . I may be wrong, but I believe so.

Warm Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Mobile phones cause more accidents than
any other device barring
the video players in the fancy cars!!!

May be or may not be...But I have seen no. of drivers using cellphone while driving.. I was once stopped by police & strongly warned against using cell phone while driving..But being Govt. servants these fellows immediately go on strike if the police take action...

TVK

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

It kind of rubs on due to constant association!!!

Dear VR Ji,

I can see these days you are starting to think like me!!LOL

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

God comes to help u in a human form!
Deivam maanusha roopeNa!!

respected brahmanyan sir !

very thought provoking explanation about GOD. we used to hear in many place that the man who has helped another family in their distress period being called kadaulle !
regards,
guruvayurappan

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Man has the choice to
do a thing ...
not do a thing ...
leave it half done!

"Greatness is built upon our seemingly insignificant daily choices"
Says Sara Yoheved Rigler a Jewish Author who had spent 15 years living in an Ashram in India. The following piece is taken from her writings "Small Choices, Big Outcomes":


"According to Judaism, God controls everything in the universe except our moral choices. “Free will” refers to that area beyond heredity and environment where you can go either way. Whenever you feel an inner push-pull (“I really should pick up that litter, but I don’t want to get my hands dirty.”), you are in the realm of your own free choice, known as your Choice Box.

Everyone has an individual Choice Box. Some people would not anguish over whether or not to lend $500 to an out-of-work friend. If you would never consider doing it, it’s above your Choice Box. If you would do it as a matter of course, with no hesitation, it’s below your Choice Box. If you would struggle with, “He really needs the money to pay his rent, but chances are he won’t be able to pay me back, and there goes my pool membership for the next season,” then you are within your Choice Box."

Wonderful message indeed.
Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.