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Two more tests for evidence of spiritual energy

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raysundar said:
Now MS. Pretty soo I will have to award you a Ph.D in S***ology!
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Looks some doctors have done reach on this topic already

https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/1853651/having-sex-makes-men-more-likely-to-believe-in-god/

Research assistant, Professor Dr Patty Van Cappellen, said: “Spirituality and meditation have each been linked to health and well-being in previous research.
“We were interested in understanding biological factors that may enhance those spiritual experiences.
“Oxytocin appears to be part of the way our bodies support spiritual beliefs.”
 
Thanks for the insight JJ.
I wonder if this Oxytocin has anything to do with the Kundalini shakti and Kundalini Yoga. Once again the mysticism of the Vedic scriptures creeps into this. Except, now we have associated it with some chemical produced by the body.
 
Dear Folks,

I am planning to continue the experiment on temperature control of Chennai and Bangalore. I will work on the objective of bringing down the temperature of Chennai and Bangalore by 3 deg C in a holistic way that is with out any harmful long term effects anywhere.

I think the effects should be perceptible in at most a couple of months.
 
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raysundar said:
Thanks for the insight JJ.
I wonder if this Oxytocin has anything to do with the Kundalini shakti and Kundalini Yoga. Once again the mysticism of the Vedic scriptures creeps into this. Except, now we have associated it with some chemical produced by the body.
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How do we measure Kundalini levels?

To establish a link between Kundalini and hormones it might actually have basis but for that we must be able to isolate the levels of both the hormones and the Kundalini.

We can measure hormone levels in the blood and also neuro-imaging to note effect of neurotransmitters in brain in various situations of life...but what is the test to measure levels of Kundalini?

Any idea?

Only then we can actually establish a link.
 
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renuka said:
How do we measure Kundalini levels?

To establish a link between Kundalini and hormones it might actually have basis but for that we must be able to isolate the levels of both the hormones and the Kundalini.

We can measure hormone levels in the blood and also neuro-imaging to note effect of neurotransmitters in brain in various situations of life...but what is the test to measure levels of Kundalini?

Any idea?

Only then we can actually establish a link.
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Dear Renuka,

If some one can raise the kundalini shakthi at will, which in fact I can, I think one can detect the effects of spiritual energy without a doubt.
 
sravna said:
Dear Renuka,

If some one can raise the kundalini shakthi at will, which in fact I can, I think one can detect the effects of spiritual energy without a doubt.
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Sravna...we need to record readings of any raised levels ..even if you can raise it how do I measure it?

Simple example is during fever...there is a rise in heart rate.

So we can measure both temperature and heart rate by simple methods.

Now how do you propose I measure your Kundalini?
 
renuka said:
Sravna...we need to record readings of any raised levels ..even if you can raise it how do I measure it?

Simple example is during fever...there is a rise in heart rate.

So we can measure both temperature and heart rate by simple methods.

Now how do you propose I measure your Kundalini?
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Dear Renuka,

Using your same example if the spiritual energy brings down the temperature and the heart rate to normal, the power is at least that much that caused the raise in temperature. To generalize if disease such as cancer can be cured and if the destructive ability of cancer can be quantified in terms of power, then the level of kundalini is at least that much.
 
The easiest way to measure power of spiritual energy is exactly by the experiment we conducted. One can constantly keep pumping physical energy into the water and try to raise the temperature when spiritual energy is also acting on it. That way the limit of the spiritual energy can be found out , alternately the limit of science may also be found out.
 
Dear Sravna, I sincerely suggest you to take a break away from tb forum, and to take a vacation. If you could, take a break and go someplace where you would have wanted to go as a child. Enjoy the simple fun that life has to offer and forget about any other thought...

Relax
 
auh said:
Dear Sravna, I sincerely suggest you to take a break away from tb forum, and to take a vacation. If you could, take a break and go someplace where you would have wanted to go as a child. Enjoy the simple fun that life has to offer and forget about any other thought...

Relax
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Dear Auh,

There is nothing as complex fun or simple fun. One can have fun whereever and whatever time one is. Good and clean fun is independent of place and time.
 
sravna said:
The easiest way to measure power of spiritual energy is exactly by the experiment we conducted. One can constantly keep pumping physical energy into the water and try to raise the temperature when spiritual energy is also acting on it. That way the limit of the spiritual energy can be found out , alternately the limit of science may also be found out.
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Sravna...you already saw the results...it did not work.

So I expect more sensitive and specific methods..firstly we need to prove spiritual energy exists.

Our minds have been conditioned by Hindu Philosophy to a great extent..but since we want to follow scientific guidelines we first need to proof the existence of spiritual energy and only then we can proceed.

I dont want to embark on any discovery with pre conceived notions cos that would make my mind "imagine" the results rather than actually having results.

Well..I know for every hypothesis..we need to have a hunch..thats fine as long we are willing even to drop the hunch if it proves otherwise.

So with that sort of open mind one should try to prove a point or hypothesis...not just feel 100% sure something exists

I hope you get what I mean...I am not anti spirituality BS MBBS with zero logic and a Phd in Shakritology as some might want to imagine!(LOL)...I am being logical here.

When I am in science mode..I have to think like a scientist even if it means being a mad scientist..when I am in spiritual mode..I need to think like a philosopher..both fields can inspire each other as long they do not delude the final finding.
 
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Dear Renuka,

Good to see a balanced well written post. I am willing to conduct another experiment to remove any uncertainty. Ideally I would like to have a physics lab participate in the experiment in the way I have suggested. I am open to any other suggestions.
 
sravna said:
Dear Renuka,

Using your same example if the spiritual energy brings down the temperature and the heart rate to normal, the power is at least that much that caused the raise in temperature. To generalize if disease such as cancer can be cured and if the destructive ability of cancer can be quantified in terms of power, then the level of kundalini is at least that much.[/QUO

Cancer is graded 0 to 4 based on clinical assessment and treatment suggested like chemo radio or surgical in various combination but one spiritual energy with no worked out dose is for all types of cancer of any organ.
Is a tall claim Mad doctors look logical than sad spiritualist!
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Mother Theresa's life itself was a miracle. Despite her touching all the people who had contagious diseases like leprosy she did not get affected by any of that. She died a very peaceful death and to me there were not just two miracles but an entire life that was miraculous.
 
I admire Mother Teresa's work, But it was not miracle but her dedication that should be celebrated. I could not do that work and I think she was someone very special.

Leprosy is spread between people. This is believed to occur through a cough or contact with fluid from the nose of an infected person. Leprosy occurs more commonly among those living in poverty.Contrary to popular belief, it is not highly contagious. The number of new cases was 230,000. Most new cases occur in 16 countries, with India accounting for more than half. In the past 20 years, 16 million people worldwide have been cured of leprosy.

Leprosy has affected humanity for thousands of years. The disease takes its name from the Latin word lepra, which means "scaly", while the term "Hansen's disease" is named after the physician Gerhard Armauer Hansen.Separating people by placing them in leper colonies still occurs in places such as India,China,and Africa. However, most colonies have closed since leprosy is not very contagious.work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leprosy
 
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raysundar said:
Mother Theresa's life itself was a miracle. Despite her touching all the people who had contagious diseases like leprosy she did not get affected by any of that. She died a very peaceful death and to me there were not just two miracles but an entire life that was miraculous.
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Well Fr.Damien who dedicated his life for the welfare of leprosy patients died of leprosy I don't know if he is credited with any miracle He became a saint 50 years after his death Jesus had 'cleaned' 10 leprosy patients. of their disease
 
I am going to try for the evidence that the force coming out of explosives can be taken out by spiritual energy. I will try to make all the firecrackers in Chennai not explode.

If that happens it will be a noiseless diwali in Chennai and a great push to anti-force initiatives.
 
Feedback from Chennai folks in different areas whether the firecrackers are being dudded would be most welcome. IT has been mostly noiseless in gandhinagar, adyar.
 
Dear Sravna Sir,

Diwali spirit was dampened last year by the non-stop historic rains. The price of crackers are going high and the one week celebration with

crackers have gone with the wind, long back! We get a small bag of crackers for Rs. 1,000. Hence we hear the crackers only on Diwali day!

BTW, why waste energy being a spoil sport, dwindling the fun of youngsters, by making the crackers go dumb / waste? :noidea:
 
Raji Ram said:
Dear Sravna Sir,

Diwali spirit was dampened last year by the non-stop historic rains. The price of crackers are going high and the one week celebration with

crackers have gone with the wind, long back! We get a small bag of crackers for Rs. 1,000. Hence we hear the crackers only on Diwali day!

BTW, why waste energy being a spoil sport, dwindling the fun of youngsters, by making the crackers go dumb / waste? :noidea:
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Dear Smt.RR,

Crackers going dumb would be fun too for youngsters if it happens. If possible let us give them a novel practical learning experience .
 
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