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Why no Navagraha in Sri Vishnu Temples?

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The Jnaana Marg person might wonder "Is it the time to leave the boat? Have I reached?..then he starts to wonder "Well may be its Maya deluding me into thinking I have reached...I think I will wait a little while more"

This is not possible. Because, the moment a person "arrives" on the other shore (of the samsaara) there will be no "I" feeling and also not any doubt regarding "reaching" because all such notions will stop being relevant.

Yes it is not possible because the jnaana marga person would have already drowned and lost to shunya. there will be no I or me left it will be just the inexplicable shunya.
 
Yes it is not possible because the jnaana marga person would have already drowned and lost to shunya. there will be no I or me left it will be just the inexplicable shunya.

You are mistaken....where was the water to drown?

All I said is they were in boat and sailed across the Ocean of Samsar....When did the Ocean of Samsar have water?

The water was just a projection of the mind of the reader who read the post!LOL

See the effect of Maya even on a Bhakti Marg reader!ha ha ha
 
Now it seems like you are having expectations..so you can not be the "personal avatar"..your role has changed now..since you desire and have expectations..its my "duty" to fulfill those expectations...so that makes you my Bhakta!LOL

Wow..now I love VA cos I can be God and Vaagmi ji my bhakta!

I have just one problem with my new God. Only a small issue there. Is this god an avtar of Koopa Mandukeshwari or some one else independent of KM because in polytheism there can be many gods existing simultaneously, each equally powerful on their own right like the navagrahas . If I have to convert to polytheism, I may choose to quit rather. LOL
 
You are mistaken....where was the water to drown?

All I said is they were in boat and sailed across the Ocean of Samsar....When did the Ocean of Samsar have water?

The water was just a projection of the mind of the reader who read the post!LOL

See the effect of Maya even on a Bhakti Marg reader!ha ha ha

I am happy that you made the ha threesome. You are slowly and steadily evolving. Dukrinjkarane is slowly receding. LOL.
 
You are mistaken....where was the water to drown?

All I said is they were in boat and sailed across the Ocean of Samsar....When did the Ocean of Samsar have water?

The water was just a projection of the mind of the reader who read the post!LOL

See the effect of Maya even on a Bhakti Marg reader!ha ha ha

Read my post carefully. The word water is not there. OMG what has happened to me. Now i am getting into the game of dukrinjkarane. Narayana, Narayan!! And as an afterthought Shiva shiva. LOL
 
I have just one problem with my new God. Only a small issue there. Is this god an avtar of Koopa Mandukeshwari or some one else independent of KM because in polytheism there can be many gods existing simultaneously, each equally powerful on their own right like the navagrahas . If I have to convert to polytheism, I may choose to quit rather. LOL

Kadavul Pathi Miragam Pathi...so either way you will be kept happy!LOL
 
Read my post carefully. The word water is not there. OMG what has happened to me. Now i am getting into the game of dukrinjkarane. Narayana, Narayan!! And as an afterthought Shiva shiva. LOL

You said drown? Drown in what?

Now the question is "why was the boat there when there was no water and no one drowned?"

So everything was merely a projection.

So it there really a shore to reach?

So do Bhakti or Jnaana marg exists?

Is there a marg to start with??
 
You said drown? Drown in what?

Now the question is "why was the boat there when there was no water and no one drowned?"

So everything was merely a projection.

So it there really a shore to reach?

So do Bhakti or Jnaana marg exists?

Is there a marg to start with??

Now taking this argument (?) further:

If everything was a projection who or what is perceiving that projection? Without a perceiver a projection has no meaning or existence.

Next question - On what is this projection happening? Is it three dimensional or more dimensional?

The answer to these two questions will lead you to the inevitable conclusion that concepts can be imagined and worked on to understand a situation even though these concepts can be abstract without a physical presence/existence. It is like the figure 3 representing an idea that an entity perceived repeats itself again and again three times in our perception. 3 mangoes written on a black board represents three real mangoes for the purpose of understanding the matter in hand. When I say each mango costs 10 rupees and so the three mangoes cost 30 rupees you understand everything without seeing the physical mangoes. so bhakti maarga exists and jnana maarga too exists. The maarga is a tool like the digits 3 and 10 to understand what happens to a soul in its progress in thinking.

When you put all the dukrinjkarane, all the searched and found knowledge, all the quests and realizations and all the inward journeys,jeevan mukthi and samaadhi state etc., into a basket and put a dog-ear or a tag to it called jnanamarga everyone understands what it is about. It becomes easy to deal with. similarly you put all the forms and expressions of intense love towards God entity, all the feelings of helplessness called akinchanyam, all the desire for sayujyam, all the regrets for lost opportunities and wasted time, all the hopes of sure salvation etc., into another basket, tag it as bhaktimarga, it becomes easy for people to understand and deal with.

so margs are convenient to work with and they do exist.

And if you are still not convinced and persist with your Is there a marg to start with, you will have to start at the start by asking is there a is? What is this this is?
 
My answers in blue.


Now taking this argument (?) further:

If everything was a projection who or what is perceiving that projection? Without a perceiver a projection has no meaning or existence.

That which has no eyes yet enables everything to be seen..That is verily the the true perceiver.

Next question - On what is this projection happening? Is it three dimensional or more dimensional?

It's beyond perception and beyond dimensions.

When I say each mango costs 10 rupees and so the three mangoes cost 30 rupees you understand everything without seeing the physical mangoes. so bhakti maarga exists and jnana maarga too exists. The maarga is a tool like the digits 3 and 10 to understand what happens to a soul in its progress in thinking.

But how much is that stone that can hit 2 mangoes?

When you put all the dukrinjkarane, all the searched and found knowledge, all the quests and realizations and all the inward journeys,jeevan mukthi and samaadhi state etc., into a basket and put a dog-ear or a tag to it called jnanamarga everyone understands what it is about. It becomes easy to deal with. similarly you put all the forms and expressions of intense love towards God entity, all the feelings of helplessness called akinchanyam, all the desire for sayujyam, all the regrets for lost opportunities and wasted time, all the hopes of sure salvation etc., into another basket, tag it as bhaktimarga, it becomes easy for people to understand and deal with.

When thoughts and emotions are weaved it becomes a basket that carries our worries throughout life..we should learn to unweave that basket.

so margs are convenient to work with and they do exist.

There is only the pathless marg.

And if you are still not convinced and persist with your Is there a marg to start with, you will have to start at the start by asking is there a is? What is this this is?

This Is is the same as That Is..when This Is is near we call it This and when the same Is is far we call it That.
This Is is That Is and That Is is This Is but in reality there is no difference between This Is and That Is for even This and That finally does not exists and verily only IS remains.
 
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claps.

thats the spirit.keep it up

The feel good factor is increasing reading your posts

you are a breathe of fresh air

regards

Do you really think so about my spirits! Then you will get your MBA

Dosai - the Prasdam of knwledgeble vishnavates also has 2 sides like your coin One the Ignorant the other knowldgeable which will not agree with your observation Knowledgable who have no time for the like of me has differnt ideas! Spirit? Sure the like of me can never have spirits! After some thought - Yes Now I realize they also have Spirit The Bocardi and Arrack type!! If you have time for the like of me as seen in the quote - you are a certified Meber of Bocardi Arrack Acadamy That is for sure your MBA

Spirituality of the like of me is fake hallucinary! ,it comes with a peg or two of High Spirits B & A !! & Never with Uthrani theerthan and Tulsi offered in Temples! The whole world knows the word spirituality is derived from from sprits!!
 
Do you really think so about my spirits! Then you will get your MBA

Dosai - the Prasdam of knwledgeble vishnavates also has 2 sides like your coin One the Ignorant the other knowldgeable which will not agree with your observation Knowledgable who have no time for the like of me has differnt ideas! Spirit? Sure the like of me can never have spirits! After some thought - Yes Now I realize they also have Spirit The Bocardi and Arrack type!! If you have time for the like of me as seen in the quote - you are a certified Meber of Bocardi Arrack Acadamy That is for sure your MBA

Spirituality of the like of me is fake hallucinary! ,it comes with a peg or two of High Spirits B & A !! & Never with Uthrani theerthan and Tulsi offered in Temples! The whole world knows the word spirituality is derived from from sprits!!
madam
I am a very good judge of people and can also appreciate B and A.

nothing fake about you. you are very forthright.

others knowledgeable or not can go and jump in the lake.

pl keep up your posts

we are here to clap and appreciate
 
certified Meber of Bocardi Arrack Acadamy That is for sure your MBA

Spirituality of the like of me is fake hallucinary! ,it comes with a peg or two of High Spirits B & A !! & Never with Uthrani theerthan and Tulsi offered in Temples! The whole world knows the word spirituality is derived from from sprits!!

LOL! I like the definition of MBA and the Spiritually High Hallucination.
 
The blue lines and my answers:

That which has no eyes yet enables everything to be seen..That is verily the the true perceiver.

So my smart phone is the true perceiver. LOL.

It's beyond perception and beyond dimensions.

Then it is not worth my attention. People can deal with only what they perceive. It is like a pink unicorn which walks on the air with its wings. LOL.But how much is that stone that can hit 2 mangoes?
I do not understand this sentence. Please elaborate.

When thoughts and emotions are weaved it becomes a basket that carries our worries throughout life..we should learn to unweave that basket.

Baskets are needed to keep things. we can keep the baskets and use them and deal with them. A lunatic was put in chains and was also given a cotton sheet to cover himself with when cold. He used it and then as he was suffering from various phobias he started fearing that he will lose the bed sheet and it will be stolen from him. So he hid it somewhere and again was not sure whether someone will find it out. so he thought deeply and found a method to hide it. He started pulling out each thread from the sheet-every warp and weft that made the sheet. He spent hours doing it and when finished he found that he had hidden the sheet effectively. Your suggestion to un weave the basket reminds me of this. LOL.

There is only the pathless marg.

Play of words. LOL.

This Is is the same as That Is..when This Is is near we call it This and when the same Is is far we call it That.
This Is is That Is and That Is is This Is but in reality there is no difference between This Is and That Is for even This and That finally does not exists and verily only IS remains.

Tat twam asi. LOL.

There is a side show going on in this thread.
There is so much of mutual backslappings, gibberish, clappings and alcohols flowing that I may get drowned. So I must leave here soon.
 
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LOL! I like the definition of MBA and the Spiritually High Hallucination.
hi

u know another definition of MBA....MEANS....... MOST BRAHMIN ASADU( அசடு ) ....more explanation from RR madam...
 
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madam
I am a very good judge of people and can also appreciate B and A.

nothing fake about you. you are very forthright.

others knowledgeable or not can go and jump in the lake.

pl keep up your posts

we are here to clap and appreciate

After My peg of Andals Pasuram this morning I was disappointed No Vedavalli Instead 16 pasuram by Bacchas of Padma Seshadhri doing it in dance mode - was good. and Bacchas are ( Andals wake up call for Neeradal over yesterday) at the Gate of our Pachha of T'Cane requesting the watchamn to open the Gates. Parmabada Vasal to be thrown open tomorrow! The symbolic cleaning of body and mind is compete as per conventionl Thirupavai and are ready for Krishanubavam!

But we see that cleansing is not complete yet In fact I see you carry the Spirit of Annadal in this Pasuram of your posting "others knowledgeable or not can go and jump in the lake". suggesting more cleansing which Andal was doing in the past 15 days

Then where to a fix it and number it in Thirupavai! KV will be at your Jugulars Thirupavai by MBA like you! yours is neither 15 nor 16 or for that matter cannot even be cosidered as one among 30 I accept. It is in between the two why not 15 and half?

See this effecf of 15 and half! "There is lot of Alcohol flowing here and I may be drowned in alcohol and should get away from here "

When they enter Paramapada Vasal to morrow morning with this mind set up - it may turn out to be Paramapaadalvasal!
 
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Someone here is itching for a fight post after post. I am in no mood now to oblige. I would rather enjoy the strenuous efforts being made and be amused. LOL.
 
What??? No New Year "bash"?

"bash" can mean different things for different people. In another two hours I will be in the midst of one. But here the place is too sterile with a Doctor around. So no scope for a bash.

I wish you and your family a happy new year. Let me see whether this will start a bash- செங்கண் திருமுகத்து செல்வத்திருமாலால் எங்கும் திருவருள் பெற்று இன்புற வாழ்த்துகிறேன்.
 
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I wish you and your family a happy new year. Let me see whether this will start a bash- செங்கண் திருமுகத்து செல்வத்திருமாலால் எங்கும் திருவருள் பெற்று இன்புற வாழ்த்துகிறேன்.

Thank you for New Year Wishes...Happy New Year to you too.

Today out here in Msia there is no New Year Celebration at a grand level like previous years.

The weather sucks..3 states are flooded and one state is fully submerged in water and even lorries cant go thru and food and supplies are being sent by helicopters.

Even a kind of famous Lord Muruga temple in a small town called Maran is submerged.

I have to start my New Year tomorrow by buying food stuff to be donated to the flood victims as there is a donation drive.

2014 has been bad year for Msia..I hope 2015 is better.
 
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