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Why no Navagraha in Sri Vishnu Temples?

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Renukaji,

i understand your situation.

Don't you have in your country a national disaster management force in place to quickly react to such calamities? I thought smaller countries (comparatively speaking) can be run like corporates (flexibility wise) and what is required is only a will and an efficient well designed system in place. May be I am wrong.
 
Let me see whether this will start a bash- செங்கண் திருமுகத்து செல்வத்திருமாலால் எங்கும் திருவருள் பெற்று இன்புற வாழ்த்துகிறேன்.

This is so true! I see comments in my thread on '19 avataras of Lord Shiva' as to why that thread is silent! How will there be activity in that thread when all energy is focused on the 'free for all' Vaishnava deities and its acharyas?!
 
Smt JR Ji

In most Brahmin Forums Sri vaishnavas take active part and smarthsa remain a silent spectators.
 
Smt JR Ji

In most Brahmin Forums Sri vaishnavas take active part and smarthsa remain a silent spectators.

Dear PJ ji,

I am not saying any sect should participate and any other sect should not. Let everyone participate. But let us not make blasphemous claims on other sect's beliefs about their deities and their acharyas. For example, saying things like Ramanuja's guru who plotted for Sri Ramanuja's murder was something borne out of some Sri Vaishnava's imagination.
 
The araigurai Pasuran 15 and half seems to have had it is effect. With New year resolution -Good - I will sit in Nishtai close my eyes will do dhayanam, not respond and enjoy the bliss of others effect!. When Messages posted in good Spirit taken in Right Sprits will keep you in high Spirits Keep up your Spirits!!

How can this have effect on one side of the KV Prasadam Dosai only What happened to the other side

Yes I must thank the KVs Other wise I would not have entered Parmapada Vasal with Paacha.this mornig OMG This is really great you thanking KVs. Pleasant change of attitude for the good Keep it up!

You got it all wrong KV It is Karur Vysya (Bank) who sponsered it on Podhigai

More on Parmapadam in My Cup of coffee
 
This is so true! I see comments in my thread on '19 avataras of Lord Shiva' as to why that thread is silent! How will there be activity in that thread when all energy is focused on the 'free for all' Vaishnava deities and its acharyas?!

Because I could not see any posting theire with comments like I have no time the like of you - Ignorant Savia and Enlightened Saivas - Alcohol flowing etc! Then it will be a platform for rocket launches in Star Wars!
 
what does chengan mean? red eyes in post#303 ? did tirumal have red eyes in tirumugam?

I do not know sentamizh. this is kadikkara tamizh.

who speaks this tongue nanbare?
 
Dear Krish Sir,

Why don't you do some Google search, when everything is available on the NET!

Here is the full poem by Sri. Andal:

''வங்கக் கடல் கடைந்த மாதவனை கேசவனை

திங்கள் திருமுகத்து சேய் இழையார் சென்று இறைஞ்சி

அங்கப் பறை கொண்ட ஆற்றை அணி புதுவைப்

பைங்கமலத் தண் தெரியல் பட்டர் பிரான் கோதை
சொன்ன

சங்கத் தமிழ் மாலை முப்பதும் தப்பாமே

இங்கு இப்பரிசுரைப்பார் ஈரிரண்டு மால் வரை தோள்

செங்கண் திருமுகத்துச் செல்வத் திருமாலால்

எங்கும் திருவருள் பெற்று இன்புறுவர் எம்பாவாய்.''


Source: Project Madurai

P.S: Project Madurai has lots of material from Tamil literature.
 
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Dear Krish Sir,

Why don't you do some Google search, when everything is available on the NET!

Here is the full poem by Sri. Andal:

''வங்கக் கடல் கடைந்த மாதவனை கேசவனை

திங்கள் திருமுகத்து சேய் இழையார் சென்று இறைஞ்சி

அங்கப் பறை கொண்ட ஆற்றை அணி புதுவைப்

பைங்கமலத் தண் தெரியல் பட்டர் பிரான் கோதை-

சங்கத் தமிழ் மாலை முப்பதும் தப்பாமே - சொன்ன

இங்கு இப்பரிசுரைப்பார் ஈரிரண்டு மால் வரை தோள்

செங்கண் திருமுகத்துச் செல்வத் திருமாலால்

எங்கும் திருவருள் பெற்று இன்புறுவர் எம்பாவாய்.''

Source: Project Madurai

P.S: Project Madurai has lots of material from Tamil literature.
thanks for links to nalaayira divya prabandham

onlyI have to learn more tamil to understand this.
 
Thanks for pointing out the error, Vaagmi Sir.

The word 'சொன்ன' comes after 'கோதை' when I checked a few more blogs.

Edited my post and I hope it is correct now. :)
 
what does chengan mean? red eyes in post#303 ? did tirumal have red eyes in tirumugam?

I do not know sentamizh. this is kadikkara tamizh.

who speaks this tongue nanbare?

Now the whole world knows - the reason why like the ones of you are called ignorant by the knowledgeable!! What do you know about Thirupaavai ! Think of it you writing one ! 15 and half!! Aragorai!! Brahaspathinu nenappu! Vanaspathi Vanaspathi!
 
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Renukaji,

i understand your situation.

Don't you have in your country a national disaster management force in place to quickly react to such calamities? I thought smaller countries (comparatively speaking) can be run like corporates (flexibility wise) and what is required is only a will and an efficient well designed system in place. May be I am wrong.

We do have..but at times forces of nature that overthrow even the best of management.
 
Per Wikipedia, Ramanuja was a Smartha from Vadama Sect.

At the time of learning from an Advaiti (probably a Smartha), Ramanuja would have definitely been a Smartha and not a Vaishnavite. It is said the teacher tried to eliminate him as Ramanuja was against his principles. Difference of opinion is quite a common thing, happening between various relationships, and it was not strange when it happened between teacher and student - both might be Smarthas.

Ramanuja established his own school of thought which was accepted by worshippers of Vishnu. I think Ramanuja would have remained as a Smartha till his death but gave importance only to Vishnu, since number of Smarthas, particularly Vadamas, joined him.

Was there any proof that Ramanuja left Smartha Sect totally?
 
I doubt if Sri Ramanuja was born a Smartha. According to the book I referred to, Ramanuja was born the nephew of one Sri Periya Thirumalai Nambi, a SriVaishnava acharya and sishya of Sri Alavandar. Sri Periya Thirumalai Nambi had 2 sisters - one Smt. Bhudevi gave birth to Ramanuja while the other sister gave birth to Embar (Govinda Bhatta). Going by these names and the Sri Vaishnava acharya status of Periya Thirumalai Nambi, I think Sri Ramanuja was born only a SriVaishnava.
 
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What is the name of Ramanuja's parents? The names will give some indications.
 
Sri Ramanuja (1017 - 1137 CE), the most important philosopher-saint of Sri Vaishnavam and one of the most dynamic characters of Hinduism. He was a philosophical as well as a social reformer, displaying a catholicity that was nearly unparalleled in Hindu religious history before him. He revitalized Indian philosophy and popular religion so much that nearly every aspect of Hinduism has been influenced by his work. His life and works show a truly unique personality, combining contemplative insight, logical acumen, catholicity, charismatic energy, and selfless dedication to God.



The less known fact even among Srivaishnavas about this well known Acharya by whose name Srivaishnava philosophy is called 'Ramanuja Darsanam' and who is hailed as "Sri Vaishnava Siddhanta Nirdhaarana Saarva bouma" is that he was a 'Vadama' by birth.(Authority :" Periya Thrumudi Adaivu, Pazhanadai Vilakkam and Visishtaadvaita Catechism" - quoted in GLE)


[h=1]HIS AVATARA AND EARLY DAYS[/h] Ilaya Perumal was born to Kesava Perumal Somayaji Dikhsitar and Kanthimathi Ammal at Sriperumpudur. Just as Sage Vasishta on seeing the brilliance in the face of the child named him as Lakshmana saying "Lakshmano Lakshmi Sampannaha", Periya Thiru malai Nambi struck by the Tejas of the child, named him after Lakshmana as Ilaya Perumal. (PPM) aka Ilayalwar.
There is a sloka in Yadhavaachala Mahatmyam which says:
Ananthah Prathamam Roopam Lakshmanascha Tathah Parah |
Balabadram Thritheeyasthu Kalou Kaschit Bhavishyathi ||


(meaning) It is the same who was Adhisesha first, Lakshmana after and Balarama in the third who is born as Sri Ramanuja in the Kali yuga. This Kaschit is taken by our Poorva Acharyas as referring to Ramanuja (PPM)
[h=1]HIS BIRTH::CHITRAI- TIRUVADHIRAI)[/h] His date of birth is placed differently by different authorities.As per PPM, he was born in Kaliyuga year 4119 which corresponds to1017 AD. PPM fixes even the exact date as 13th April 1017 AD, interms of English Calendar.


PRA, though notes the year as 4118 Kali , maintains the year as 1017 AD only and gives additional information that the Rasi was Karkataka and the time of birth was exactly at noon.


VAC, MKS and MSR also agree on the year 1017. PTA gives a few more details like the Yogam being Ayushman, Karanam being Bhadra, Gotra being Harita, Saakha being Yajus, Sutra being Apasthambha and Sect being Vadama ( Vide p.45 of GLE).


PPM and ATA mention the year as Pingala, month Chitrai and the constellation Tiruvadirai. PPM adds that it was a Sukla Paksha Panchami, a Friday.


It will be for the Research minded scholars to piece together all these details to arrive at the correct date, time etc.


Read more from here

Sri Ramanujacharya Life History
 
The book I referred to says that Sri Ramanuja's parents' names were: Asuri Kesavacharya (also known as Kesava Perumal) residing in SriPerumbudur and mother's name to be Bhu-devi.

acharya.org/d.html | Acharya | Ramanujar | "Life of Ramanujacharya" e-book by Alkondaville Govindacharya pages 30 & 31.

Which sect does 'Asuri' title belong to? Or is it a place name?
 
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Listen to this song - MS singing about Godess Kanthimathi of Tirunelveli. It happens to be Ramanujars Mothers name also. Does it give you any indication? You can see it in Wikepedia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VSPgSqJ-ek&list=RD6VSPgSqJ-ek

I know the name. Some people think he was a born Vaishnavite.

In today's The Hindu under Arts and Culture (Page No.5), Pradeep Charavarthy in his column 'Rare kriti on a famous temple' said Dikshitar composed the song in the name of Goddess Kanthimati, which is not heard often on concert platforms.

If Ramanuja's mother's name was Kanthimathi, naturally Ramanuja belonged to Smartha Sect.

What is astonishing is that a there is no clear history of a person who belonged to 12th century.
 
Is the messenger more important than the message?

Every Sanyasi had a past, does it matter?
Ramanuja's birth is a caste or branch of philosophy is purely coincidental. If you like his message accept it, If you do not like the messafe it does not matter who were his parents.
 
Is this true or possible ? Togadia claims gharwapsi was started by Ramanujacharya 700 years ago at Ayodhya by converting 25000 muslims!


http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rc...=LtW9_QWwiNnB5O5uCx9TZQ&bvm=bv.82001339,d.c2E


Then what Kalai were they?

I do see some similarity....becos whatever said and Iyengars/Vaishnavas strongly defend their "matam"and hold on to it and never give up just like another Abrahamic religion we all know.

But at the same time I wonder how Ramanuja managed to do this? I guess the concept was kind of similar.

God is Great or Vishnu and His messenger is Ramanuja.

The Abrahmic religion believes only in One God and have the concept of angels.

Vaishnavaism has the concept of only Vishnu is God and have the concept of Azhwars and Nityasooris.

Both believe in the Ultimate Heaven and the Jeeva will never be the same as God.

OMG !!! OMG!! Vaagmi ji are you even reading this?


Salam Salam Laakhon Salam!
 
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