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I do not subscribe to the explanation that Modi was a poor pracharak and did not have the means to support his wife.if he has got married , it is his bounden duty to support her as per indian law.he might get away with it.
many film stars and politicians -hindu have two wives or are second wives. but they get away with it though it is unlawful and they can be prosecuted for bigamy.
there is nothing noble about all this
whether womens groups will keep quiet about it or move against him is to be seen.
it is difficult to accept such a person as the rightful person to lead the country.
 
I dont know much about Modi.. but many of these articles of this kind are baseless. No one knows what happened in his personal life except what he shared. The results he achieved in Gujarat are dramatic. Compared to many bums of the past he can be given a shot recognizing he may not be perfect but perhaps the best among the choices offered
there is something dubious about the gujarat model.
There is only a gujarati model and no gujarat model.
gujaratis are an enterprising lot.
memons in south africa, gujus in east africa, jains in antwerp diamond trade,patels owning motels in us, guju players in stock market are models for all and Modi has nothing to do with them. all guju industrialists other than adani,ambani have also developed and industrialised gujarat without modi. modi might have simplified some rules . he is a smart alec . he is claiming credit for everything done by gujaratis . he has a few roads to show for his performance. the so called gujarat model cannot be replicated any other state unless the gujaratis enmasse are also transferred there.all states will remain as they are with or without modi unless the people there decide to change their state due to their hard work and enterprise. this is specially true of UPand bihar
 
Yes, women's groups have a tough problem child marriage, arrest parents, not registered, arrest relatives, wife a well wisher, will not file a complaint, wife tradional one marriage nari, will not ask for divorce. Secularists and leftists can do all the shouting, only muck about Sonia, rahul and Nehru family will fill the air. I am sure you know the antecedents of nehru-gandhi family. The other day both digvijay and barka started shivering when swamy raised the issue of rahul's marital problems. Available in utube.
I do not subscribe to the explanation that Modi was a poor pracharak and did not have the means to support his wife.if he has got married , it is his bounden duty to support her as per indian law.he might get away with it.
many film stars and politicians -hindu have two wives or are second wives. but they get away with it though it is unlawful and they can be prosecuted for bigamy.
there is nothing noble about all this
whether womens groups will keep quiet about it or move against him is to be seen.
it is difficult to accept such a person as the rightful person to lead the country.
 
One must vote if he/she/tg is eligible, has the name in voter's list, and meet all latest directives of EC. After more than 60 years' of existence we do not have a uptodate voters' list. Nobody knows whatever name is there, is that bona fide? In Maharashtra they have reported two different sets of constituencies have identical names of voters, identical first name, middle name and last name. One is not sure whether Pawar was "advising" or repeating the happening! "maattikinda anaamath voter" and illenna King maker of democracy??. Nobody has a grip of anything in this country. Neither the voter, nor their nominees, government and the EC or HC/SC. The question remains who has failed - the govt, administrators, politicians or the public? While the voters' lists' themselves are in doubt, the voting is hardly touches on an average below 60%. Nobody knows who voted!. I think more than 30/40% have not been able to find their name in voters' list ever or otherwise. In spite of total failure and inefficiency, India is poised to exercise its democratic rights. I will also vote only if my name is there and am found eligible.
 
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I dont know much about Modi.. but many of these articles of this kind are baseless. No one knows what happened in his personal life except what he shared. The results he achieved in Gujarat are dramatic. Compared to many bums of the past he can be given a shot recognizing he may not be perfect but perhaps the best among the choices offered


Dear TKS,

Modi opposes discrimination of people along communal lines. Hence all those who stand to benefit from such communal discrimination oppose him tooth and nail.

He says public schemes should not be tailored towards one community or the other but should target poor/disadvantaged people from all communities.

The political powers who stay in power solely by promising and providing exclusive benefits to different groups also naturally oppose him. Hence all the mud-slinging.

The main stream discourse in media completely presents a false picture of where different political parties stand viz-a-viz communalism and secularism.

I think you may be familiar with Thomas Sowell.

He is one of my favorite political theorists.

Here is a quote from him which, in my opinion, sums up the main source of opposition to Modi in the name of "secularism".
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When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.

Do you think in US, it is possible to have a separate ministry that caters only to the needs of African americans or the Mexican americans or the Jews or the Mormons?

This type of factionalism will be fought against in the US but people who practice such factionalism in India are hailed as secularists and those who oppose it are condemned as communalists. Such are the state of affairs in India.
 
Many will dismiss the attached image as some sort of hindutva propaganda but the information contained in it is not false.


A government led by Modi might end such preferential treatment; hence the coordinated attacks against him.
 

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One hears many different arguments against Modi and Modi's govt - the growth is not real; if real it is not because of Modi but because Gujjus are naturally entrepreneurs; the growth favored rich; the growth was not inclusive; the growth is job-less - so on and so forth.

Here is an article that compares how Gujarat has performed against national average and against a few comparable states.

Clipping of Delhi, 12 April, 2014 :readwhere

From the article:

Another important objection to Modi comes with the refrain that the dream, the vision, that Modi is selling is a nightmare for the poor, the minorities and the disadvantaged. The accusation is made that the Modi growth model is really for the rich and the super-rich, that is, the Adanis and Ambanis of India. As debates in India rarely centre on evidence, the allegations fly thick and fast. Agricultural growth in Gujarat, far from being high, was actually negative — or so proclaimed Arvind Kejriwal.

When sanity returns, the argument changes — growth has always been high in Gujarat because the Gujaratis are industrious and hard-working. The real problem, the critics contend, is that growth in Modi’s Gujarat has not been “inclusive”. Now inclusion, like beauty, is in the eyes of the beholder, particularly if the person pontificating is of the secular left-wing variety. Here it is automatically assumed that if one is secular, then one is guaranteed inclusion — saying so makes it so.

This result is not contingent on data source or selection of time-period. No matter how the data are sliced, the overwhelming conclusion is that Gujarat has witnessed enviable economic growth under Modi. Are the opinion polls reflecting this simple fact?
 
Hyping so called gujarat model and making it sound as if modi claims credit for everything is media's doing. Modi has done streamlining in a few areas and he talks only about them. He has said more than once that every state is unique and has to find its applicable solution. He has never said that he will duplicate 'gujarat model' all over india.

1. Turning gujarat power corporation a profit centre, division of the power corporation into functional groups, separating industrial-agriculture-domestic power distribution with separate feeders and transformers, abolishing free/subsidized electricity, 100% electrification of villages with guaranteed power availability.
2. Distribution of narmada water to inaccessible parts, prevention of water theft by self policing, ensuring that canals are ready before water is available, innovative solutions like solar roof over canal to reduce evaporation; more people would have benefited if the dam height was increased, (delaying tactic of the central govt).
3. Fast and efficient redressal grievance system using technology to the hilt - on line complaint lodging, time limit for redressal, escaltion upto the chief minister level, direct approach to higher ups, periodical review by the chief minister. Ministers and bureaucrats camp at the towns and villages frequently. The administrative machinery is virtually corruption free.
4. Importance to primary education, girl's education, village schools and teachers, identifying reasons for drop out and taking corrective action. Equal importance given to skill development educational opportunities.
5. Streamlining land acquisition practices for projects - with the govt acting as a facilitator, farmers getting a fair and market price - no forced acquisition.
Each of the above itself makes an interesting study. In all his speeches, modi talks about these issues and job creation, and invites farmers and those with open mind to visit gujarat. Groups that have visited gujarat have good things to report. In all his meetings he emphasises skill development and job creation locally so that sons of the soil can stay with their families and need not go to distant places for livelihood.

Finally as one gujarati said - we don't talk about many things - power (always available), autos (all are cng), roads (no bumps and holes), getting work done in govt. offices (no corruption) and many such feel good stories. There is a big gujarat other than tata, ambani and their kind.

there is something dubious about the gujarat model.
There is only a gujarati model and no gujarat model.
gujaratis are an enterprising lot.
memons in south africa, gujus in east africa, jains in antwerp diamond trade,patels owning motels in us, guju players in stock market are models for all and Modi has nothing to do with them. all guju industrialists other than adani,ambani have also developed and industrialised gujarat without modi. modi might have simplified some rules . he is a smart alec . he is claiming credit for everything done by gujaratis . he has a few roads to show for his performance. the so called gujarat model cannot be replicated any other state unless the gujaratis enmasse are also transferred there.all states will remain as they are with or without modi unless the people there decide to change their state due to their hard work and enterprise. this is specially true of UPand bihar
 
One must vote if he/she/tg is eligible, has the name in voter's list, and meet all latest directives of EC. After more than 60 years' of existence we do not have a uptodate voters' list. Nobody knows whatever name is there, is that bona fide? In Maharashtra they have reported two different sets of constituencies have identical names of voters, identical first name, middle name and last name. One is not sure whether Pawar was "advising" or repeating the happening! "maattikinda anaamath voter" and illenna King maker of democracy??. Nobody has a grip of anything in this country. Neither the voter, nor their nominees, government and the EC or HC/SC. The question remains who has failed - the govt, administrators, politicians or the public? While the voters' lists' themselves are in doubt, the voting is hardly touches on an average below 60%. Nobody knows who voted!. I think more than 30/40% have not been able to find their name in voters' list ever or otherwise. In spite of total failure and inefficiency, India is poised to exercise its democratic rights. I will also vote only if my name is there and am found eligible.
Iyyooran ji
you can go to election commission website and verify your name is on the rolls. it is a 2 minute affair. before election ,you can collect the voter slip given at your home . else on votong day ec officials will give it you on you producing the election card . it is simple nearly. I voted tis time and had no difficulty whatsoever. the ec offivcials and the police specially were very helpful to senior citizen and ladies . some policemen did baby sitting and kept mobiles safe when voters went in to vote. delhi police had been specially trained for election duty and they did a commendable job. we had an incident free election. by the way do not carry mobile to voting booth ,it is not permitted
 
கால பைரவன்;239837 said:
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Dear TKS,

Modi opposes discrimination of people along communal lines. Hence all those who stand to benefit from such communal discrimination oppose him tooth and nail.

He says public schemes should not be tailored towards one community or the other but should target poor/disadvantaged people from all communities.

The political powers who stay in power solely by promising and providing exclusive benefits to different groups also naturally oppose him. Hence all the mud-slinging.

The main stream discourse in media completely presents a false picture of where different political parties stand viz-a-viz communalism and secularism.

I think you may be familiar with Thomas Sowell.

He is one of my favorite political theorists.

Here is a quote from him which, in my opinion, sums up the main source of opposition to Modi in the name of "secularism".
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Do you think in US, it is possible to have a separate ministry that caters only to the needs of African americans or the Mexican americans or the Jews or the Mormons?

This type of factionalism will be fought against in the US but people who practice such factionalism in India are hailed as secularists and those who oppose it are condemned as communalists. Such are the state of affairs in India.
TKS ji
this election will change some things which originated in 1990s . mandalism and obc reservations.yadavs and niteshes are likely to become history. the preferential treatment is likely given the boot at the altar of development and so called good governance. muslim s will run for cover as they will get marginalised and dalits have to hide from caste hindus, brahmins can perhaps rejoice.and hope for better treatment . of course I do not know about tamil nadu.
 
கால பைரவன்;239840 said:
One hears many different arguments against Modi and Modi's govt - the growth is not real; if real it is not because of Modi but because Gujjus are naturally entrepreneurs; the growth favored rich; the growth was not inclusive; the growth is job-less - so on and so forth.

Here is an article that compares how Gujarat has performed against national average and against a few comparable states.

Clipping of Delhi, 12 April, 2014 :readwhere

From the article:
KB sir you may choose to believe these clippings. delhi also got excellent infrastructure. we got the metro in record time .we got virtually no power cuts last year . petrol and diesel is cheapest in delhi as compared to rest of the country . all our autos are cng. we get piped gas at our homes at low price .we have separate milk booth across the road for amul and mother dairy. only negative point was the corruption at national level and safety of women. shiela dixit lost due to central govt and not because of her performance. gujarat can come nowhere near delhi .to talk of gujarat model is all hype which will burst on 16th of may
 
கால பைரவன்;239837 said:
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Dear TKS,

Modi opposes discrimination of people along communal lines. Hence all those who stand to benefit from such communal discrimination oppose him tooth and nail.

He says public schemes should not be tailored towards one community or the other but should target poor/disadvantaged people from all communities.

The political powers who stay in power solely by promising and providing exclusive benefits to different groups also naturally oppose him. Hence all the mud-slinging.

The main stream discourse in media completely presents a false picture of where different political parties stand viz-a-viz communalism and secularism.

I think you may be familiar with Thomas Sowell.

He is one of my favorite political theorists.

Here is a quote from him which, in my opinion, sums up the main source of opposition to Modi in the name of "secularism".
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Do you think in US, it is possible to have a separate ministry that caters only to the needs of African americans or the Mexican americans or the Jews or the Mormons?

This type of factionalism will be fought against in the US but people who practice such factionalism in India are hailed as secularists and those who oppose it are condemned as communalists. Such are the state of affairs in India.

Thanks for providing insightful analysis - now it makes sense why there is so much opposition ..
 
Perfect.

கால பைரவன்;239837 said:
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Do you think in US, it is possible to have a separate ministry that caters only to the needs of African americans or the Mexican americans or the Jews or the Mormons?

This type of factionalism will be fought against in the US but people who practice such factionalism in India are hailed as secularists and those who oppose it are condemned as communalists. Such are the state of affairs in India.
 
TKS ji
this election will change some things which originated in 1990s . mandalism and obc reservations.yadavs and niteshes are likely to become history. the preferential treatment is likely given the boot at the altar of development and so called good governance. muslim s will run for cover as they will get marginalised and dalits have to hide from caste hindus, brahmins can perhaps rejoice.and hope for better treatment . of course I do not know about tamil nadu.

If the focus is on excellence, 'preferential treatment' is based on how someone utilized their environment (poverty etc), qualification exams rely on native abilities judged not by metrics that a privileged person excels easily then system can be fair including Muslims or any other groups. You think Modi if elected with not support a more rational approach like this
 
கால பைரவன்;239837 said:
......I think you may be familiar with Thomas Sowell.

Here is a quote from him which, in my opinion, sums up the main source of opposition to Modi in the name of "secularism".

Do you think in US, it is possible to have a separate ministry that caters only to the needs of African americans or the Mexican americans or the Jews or the Mormons?

This type of factionalism will be fought against in the US but people who practice such factionalism in India are hailed as secularists and those who oppose it are condemned as communalists. Such are the state of affairs in India.

Dear Sri KB:

It may be helpful to inform that Thomas Sowell is an African-American.

Sowell also writes on racial topics and is a critic of affirmative action and race-based quotas (read as reservations in the Indian context). On the topic of affirmative action in the American context, Sowell has stated it's "one of the few policies that can be said to harm virtually every group in a different way … Obviously, whites and Asians lose out when you have preferential admission for black students or Hispanic students—but blacks and Hispanics lose out because what typically happens is the students who have all the credentials to succeed in college are admitted to colleges where the standards are so much higher that they fail.”

He takes strong issue with the notion of government as a helper or savior of minorities, arguing that the historical record shows quite the opposite.


The blacks in USA suffered a lot until recently. And yet he, as a black, knew what he was talking about.
 
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I have tried to include 2 names in the voters' list last 3 times and have the ack. slips. The system acquires efficiency only some where and it suffers delinquency everywhere else. Wait for newspaper reports after hustings on missing names, imposters, etc.
 
According to an exclusive piece for dna, Ghatak and Roy wrote about debates over Gujarat's development model and put forth arguements stating that other states have done the same as Gujarat in terms of GDP and growth.


According to them, other states such as Maharashtra and Haryana have been going neck and neck at the top of the growth rate rankings over the last three decades but no one is talking about the Maharashtra model or the Haryana model of development.


What they had to say: While Gujarat’s overall economic record is undoubtedly good all through the last three decades compared to other states, its performance in the 2000s does not seem to justify the wild euphoria and exuberant optimism about Modi’s economic leadership.The Gujarat story has dominated the media, but there are also the Bihar story, the Tamil Nadu story, and of course, the Maharashtra and Kerala stories. Singling out Gujarat for praise, while ignoring the rest of the leading contenders, seems disingenuous.

Kamal Nayan Kabra for Mainstream Weekly:


Kamal Narayan Kabra talks about the Gujarat development model and states that Gujarat as a state with policies is akin to the rest of India and patchy generalisations about development models pose a question to other states of India to rethink about the development issue.


What does he say: A State such as Gujarat has never been strong on grassroots commitments owing to its socio-economic structure. That may well be among the factors which make the BJP a srong force and throw up an aggressive leadership with a ruthlessness characteristic of the neo-rich.
How far can the support of the strong NRI community originating from Gujarat go is also something of an imponderable. With the rising capital-intensity of growth and growing backlog of the people without a secure and adequate means of livelihood and in the absence of any alternative agenda and mobilisation forthcoming, Gujarat, like much of the rest of India is entering highly choppy and uncertain waters.
Maitreesh Ghatak and Sanchari Roy for Guardian:


In an analysis for the series 'Ideas for India' for Guardian, Maitreesh Ghatak and Sanchari Roy talk about Gujarat's development model in detail. They state that Gujarat’s development and growth has been impressive but it was similar even before Narendra Modi took charge of the state at the helm of affairs.


They say that other states have done way better in terms of growth and have received appreciation for their efforts (Maharashtra, Bihar).


The extended version of their essay, published by Ideas for India reserves praise for Bihar instead, since the state seems to have turned around after long years of stagnation.


Here's what they had to say: Though Modi's stock is rising high, evidence for the success of Modinomics is unconvincing. For those frustrated with the status quo and hoping for a magical turnaround of the Indian economy if Modi comes to power, it may be wise to think about lessons from the stock market. At some point all bubbles burst – and the numbers have to add up.




Ashok Kotwal and Arka Roy Chaudhuri for Indian Express:


In a collaborative piece to Indian Express, Kotwal and Chaudhuri state that Gujarat presents a perplexing case that has done much better than many states on growth but has performed much worse in terms of developmental outcomes.


What they said: “Despite the fact that Gujarat grew faster than most other states during the decade of 2001-11, its per capita expenditure is not only not at the top of the chart but has slipped further to the 12th position. Equally surprising are its ranks in, one, the extent of poverty and, two, female literacy: they are smack in the middle of the list at 14th and 15th respectively, showing no improvement by 2011-12 despite fast growth. It does show some improvement in its ranking for ‘Infant Mortality Ratio’ from 19th to 17th, though the record of being in the lower half of the class is still disappointing for such a fast growing state,” wrote Kotwal and Chaudhuri.


Also read: The Narendra Modi TV interview: I went to IIM to learn management, 'saheb' title made me feel uncomfortable


Prof YK Singh for Mint:


Prof YK Alagh, the chancellor of the Central University of Gujarat and a former Union minister provides a balanced view and states: “while there was nothing new about Gujarat’s manufacturing prowess, maintaining a high agricultural growth rate over the past decade is indeed credit-worthy. Agreeing with most other scholars on the subject, Alagh said that Gujarat’s performance on social inclusion is weak despite its impressive growth performance.”

India may be tired of UPA politics, and try anything different. Modi is the alternative and promises to change the current situation. He deserves a chance but be ready for him to fail at the national level.
 
Amma has slammed BJP for the first time on the emotive Cauvery issue for the first time!..

Jayalalithaa slams BJP, says it is no different from Congress - The Hindu
J. has foreseen the bonhomie between modi and rajnikant. she has hit out at BJP in an effort for self preservation. she remembers 1996 when he gave a call to defeat her . other than DMDK vijaykant and sarath kumar,all other film stars have stayed of politics. . also left has announced support for AAP in tamil nadu for seats they are not contesting. both these developments are good for the future.
 
I have a sinking feeling .we are going from into deep sea trying to escape the devil. I only hope mayawati gets more than 20 seats and MSY atleast 15 in up to lower the BJP tally.similarly ,JDu and rjd need to do well. only these can reduce the margins of win for bjp. also one of andhra parties or j. have to help bjp to get a majority.so it is in their hands .
 
Delhi is heavily subsidized. Per capita spending is twenty times more than the amount spent in major cities. Who pays? Tax payers from other neglected towns and villages.
KB sir you may choose to believe these clippings. delhi also got excellent infrastructure. we got the metro in record time .we got virtually no power cuts last year . petrol and diesel is cheapest in delhi as compared to rest of the country . all our autos are cng. we get piped gas at our homes at low price .we have separate milk booth across the road for amul and mother dairy. only negative point was the corruption at national level and safety of women. shiela dixit lost due to central govt and not because of her performance. gujarat can come nowhere near delhi .to talk of gujarat model is all hype which will burst on 16th of may
 
very informative post prasadji.. the new order expected ,may eliminate the mandal and obc politics of up and bihar after 20 years and may lead these states towards development.. I pray the same for dravidian order of tamilnadu.youth of india are in the forefront clamouring for jobs and development overcoming caste and religion preferances. the only drawback is some minorities and dalits may get marginalised and rich,middleclass ,poor differences will widen.brahmins may rejoice if jobs are on merit and not on reservation policies.
 
Delhi is heavily subsidized. Per capita spending is twenty times more than the amount spent in major cities. Who pays? Tax payers from other neglected towns and villages.
sarang ji .you are quite correct. I have forgotten to add subsidies for water and power in my post. you knownow why I stick to delhi and not go anywhere else.in case we have AAP ruling delhi with bjp governing india maintaining law and order. ,delhi may be close to heavan . this is the most likely scenario. delhi people are wise . they would try to run with the hare and hunt with the hound.lol
 
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