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malgova.mango said:
See a Kumari will be given to bramhachari by their parents ,they wont give to a sanyasi, as for Sumangali the question didn't arise at all. So a Sanyasi's Sanyasam is not in danger by both of them. So there is no problem in giving dharshan to them. Also a sanyasi gets Bhiksha from a sumangali or kumari .
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Leaving paramacharya out of the discussion, this is about all sanyasis in general:

If a sanyasi cannot see mother in all feminine beings, its is against his sanyasa vows.

If a sanyasa thinks his sanyasam is in danger because of a woman, then he need not take sanyasam at all. He better be a grihasta.
 
malgova.mango said:
Kekaravan kenaiyanna keppai'lla nai vadiyumam - kelivi pattirukkelo.

manthram kal , mathi mukkal - kelvi pattathillaiyo?
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Unga keppaille nei vadiyaradhu nu ninaichen... !!! Illaya?

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ramanujaacharayal periya pesagu pannitar. moksham avarkku etta kanni aiduthu , avalla sutthi eruthavallukkum appadiye poiduthu....

krishna paramatma geethaila advaitham teach pannerukkarnnu pandithal ellarum sollara- appadi erukkappa advaithamnnu onume ellainngarathullernthu avar sayam velluthuduthu...

karunai mattharam erunthu enna pannarthu?

konjam periava - (krishna parmathma avaria veeda periyavar thane, kamba naatazhvar periavar illaiyo)sollartahellam maruthhu pesalamo?

enakennavo avar pesagitarrnu thitta vattama thonarthu...

kovichukatheyum umakitta irukkara antharyami than enna eppadi ezhutha vaikkirar.

sinthikkavaum - seerram vendam
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Om Namo Narayanaya Namaha!... unga moolamave Sriman Narayanan thaan unmayana antharyami nu vandhuthu!!!

"Govindhethi sadha dhyanam, sadha govindha keerthanam"...
 
palindrome ji!

oru palindrome sollunga firstu...

Yeah you are correct theoratically, but in practice - you need some gaurd.

See after taking VOWS Bheesmaacharyar took several precaution to gaurd the vow, like not talking to a woman in privacy, sleeping in a mat, taking only porridge etc...

Infact Aacharams are designed as a gaurd for vows.
 
advaitathula ethungannum bedham - sivashya hridayam vishnuhu - vishnusya hridayam shivaha.

ha! ha! ha!
 
palindrome said:
Leaving paramacharya out of the discussion, this is about all sanyasis in general:

If a sanyasi cannot see mother in all feminine beings, its is against his sanyasa vows.

If a sanyasa thinks his sanyasam is in danger because of a woman, then he need not take sanyasam at all. He better be a grihasta.
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That is right... only those who have vairagyam should take sanyasam, not all "kakkan pokkan"... then it would lead to all sort of unnecessary practices...

got it mango?
 
Seshadri Subramaniam said:
mango,

Sankeertha Narayana Shabdha Mathram,
Vimuktha Dhukhaa Sukhino Bhavanthu...

Regards,
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Ethellam oru aathma balathirkkaga sollarthu , literal meaning fit aguma?

appadi aagumnam bhagwan narayanan, vyasa bhagavanna vanthu advaitha paramparai undakkanummnu avasaiyam enna?

sinthikkavum ...
 
ennakena monnangal - thappa thappunu than oi sollanum - sonna monnagal'a?

appavavathu oru vizhipunnarvu varatha? oru try than.
 
VA thappunnu sollalai . va than finalnngarthu than thappunnu sollaren
 
VA thappunu sollalai.

VA than Finalnnu Sonna - Athu Kandippa Preiya Thappu
 
malgova.mango said:
palindrome ji!

oru palindrome sollunga firstu...

Yeah you are correct theoratically, but in practice - you need some gaurd.

See after taking VOWS Bheesmaacharyar took several precaution to gaurd the vow, like not talking to a woman in privacy, sleeping in a mat, taking only porridge etc...

Infact Aacharams are designed as a gaurd for vows.
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Bheeshma was raised to be a king... and hence he lived his life as a kshatriya... due to necessity, he took the vow of brahmacharya... that is not equal to sanyasam...

Please get the facts right...!
 
Seshadri Subramaniam said:
That is right... only those who have vairagyam should take sanyasam, not all "kakkan pokkan"... then it would lead to all sort of unnecessary practices...

got it mango?
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See a young plant needs fence ,

Here both have vows of celibacy for different reason

Sanyasi - For Moksha

Window - For Swarga Prapti and reunfication with her Pati.

Both have higher goals which would give them a better position for both.

Then there is also a danger that one may get out of focus , and began to
forget their vows..

See all trees have some vulnerable periods in theie early part.

who knows a kokan -pokan if gaurded would save his vows and reach the goal. Why take chances
 
advaitam purinjavallukku - ottai theriyathu

ottai therinja - bhagavat kripaikku tapas pannanum

summa online'la enlightment aidallamngrathellam konjam over.
 
vishayam ennana - vows should be gaurded by the fence of aacharam.

bheeshamarukkum porunthum - nammakkum porunthum
 
malgova.mango said:
See a young plant needs fence ,

Here both have vows of celibacy for different reason

Sanyasi - For Moksha

Window - For Swarga Prapti and reunfication with her Pati.

Both have higher goals which would give them a better position for both.

Then there is also a danger that one may get out of focus , and began to
forget their vows..

See all trees have some vulnerable periods in theie early part.

who knows a kokan -pokan if gaurded would save his vows and reach the goal. Why take chances
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It is not like as you say!!!! Again get the facts right!

Once a child has adorned "Yagnyopaveetham", he undertakes studies of the vedas and upanishads while guarding brahmacharyam... After he finishes studies, he can opt for two modes of life - "as a grihasthan" or "sanyasam"... Those who have staunch determination are eligible for sanyasam... such minds would never falter even in the highest of obstacles... any mind that falters is unfit for sanyasam...

Minds which cannot match such determination can live the grihasthasrama style...

These are the ways endorsed by our dharma shasthras... SDS padiyum oi... appuram pesum...

If it were just individual opinions, then anyone can hold "n" number of differing views...
 
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