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Brahmins eating non-vegeterian

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Each person has personal dietary preferences..so we can not really expect everyone to be a vegetarian.

Frankly speaking I wonder why most vegetarians have such a problem with others who eat Non Veg.

I dont see any reason why they have to say "how on earth can others eat this and that..OMG cant stand the smell etc"

You see that amounts to disrespecting the dead animal.

Do you know that some Vegans cant stand the smell of milk? They dont take any dairy products..so Indians might wonder what is so wrong with milk?

So same way..someone who eats non veg would wonder "how can anyone live without non veg?"

Now coming to those who feel they cant stand smell of Non Veg..when we go for funerals..do we say "OMG I cant stand the sight of a dead body..there is a dead body smell here ?" No one says that right?

The reason ?? Cos we respect the deceased..even if the deceased is found decomposed some 2 weeks old with maggots ..still we cry if he/she is our relative..that time no one thinks of bad odour.

So the take home point for the day is..our body has been tru many lives..we could have been non veg/cannibals/veg at any previous life or any life to come..the Atma has been housed in many bodies that has eaten all sorts of food.

At the end of the day no matter what we eat..veg or non veg.. fecal matter of humans does not smell like Chanel 5 Perfume.
So far I dont think anyone in history besides Rishaba Muni was reported to have fragrant fecal matter.

So the best is just let anyone be happy with his/her choice of food..people choose their food based on their desire,culture,religious requirement and that is their personal right.
 
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Dear Renu,

Just as some vegans are unable to stand the smell of diary products, I too can't stand the smell of non-veg stuff. Hence I keep

away from people who eat non-veg. I don't think we disrespect the dead animal by such action. My dad used to give a decent

burial when a crow, a dog or a cat dies near our house. So I think the dead animals should be given a decent burial and should

not he eaten along with masAlA! :hungry: That is purely my POV but I don't impose it on others!!
 
Raji Ram said:
, I too can't stand the smell of non-veg stuff. Hence I keep

away from people who eat non-veg.
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Dear RR ji,

I need some clarification here...you mean you keep away from people who are in the act of eating Non Veg or you generally keep away from a Non Vegetarian person.
 
renuka said:
.......... I need some clarification here...you mean you keep away from people who are in the act of eating Non Veg or you generally keep away from a Non Vegetarian person.
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Only while they are eating non-veg, Renu!

I have a few friends who eat non-veg. Even one of my music student is a non-vegetarian. :)
 
In one of our friend's (xtian) wedding, there were two separate counters for veg and non-veg.

We had very few veg eaters though! So most of the mAmis stayed together and had veg. food.
 
Raji Ram said:
Only while they are eating non-veg, Renu!

I have a few friends who eat non-veg. Even one of my music student is a non-vegetarian. :)
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Dear RR ji,

Even among Non Vegetarian Hindus they also cant stand the sight beef dishes.

This I cant understand..cos if they can eat goat,chicken etc..so why get so worked up seeing a Beef Dishes.

I remember when I was in a rural medical set up the local staff were having a get together and they were making beef curry(its called beef rendang)..one staff there asked me to help her cook it.

My mum was also there visiting me and she got pretty pissed off with that and told me "she knows we are veg and she is trying to insult us by asking you to help her cook beef"

I told my mum dont worry.

So I took the ladle from her hand of the staff and stirred the beef curry for her.

The staff was shocked..I could see disbelief in her eyes( I think she was expecting me to get angry with her)..than I told her "you wanted help..so I helped you..it does not matter what I stir or cook cos I am not eating it"
 
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sarang said:
Many star hotels and restaurants claim to have separate kitchens and separate vessels for satvik and rajasik foods!
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In a most sought after Indian restaurant in Boston, the non.veg stuff were mingled with the veg. stuff, in a buffet lunch.

The manager guided us the check the green / red marking provided along with the name of the dish, to distinguish! I was

happy to see that at least different ladles were used for different dishes! :cool:
 
sangom said:


Sir,

I have also heard similar accounts from people here in India, about their children and other close relatives who are settled down abroad. But my sons, who are more sincere and truthful towards me, tell me that it will be really difficult to completely avoid NV food in practical situations, in many parts of foreign countries. Even in London, if you are asked to work overtime and cannot go to your house for food (incidentally, my youngest son in London - unmarried - cooks vegetarian food for himself) you are not likely to get veg. food except coffee and bread. People find it sometimes difficult to work on such coffee and bread throughout the night.

Secondly, the children are usually invited for birthday parties of their class mates and in such parties it is not always possible, nor civil, to sit by the side of your kid and guide him/her as to which items are veg and which are all NV and hence should be avoided. Hence it may so happen that children taste some NV item or another and pick up a taste for that too. Unless our relatives lead a hermit-like lifestyle, it is difficult to socialize with a very strict vegetarian agenda, I am told.

Perhaps the people whom you refer to have told you that they continue to be strict vegetarians for fear of offending you by telling the truth. That is what I feel.
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I lived in US for a while and my brother for 10 years. Neither of us smoke, drink or touch NV food or any other woman . I m not saying all these are wrong things to do, but I do whatever i was taught by my parents. As simple as that. Its not about being wrong or being right, but giving the excuse of being abroad is not right.

Irrespective of being in India, Pakistan or USA, we can remain ourselves.
 
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I....... Irrespective of being in India, Pakistan or USA, we can remain ourselves.
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Well said! Ram is a teetotaller and has held high ranks in offices and attended many 'thaNNi' parties. In our family, many in the next

generation have settled for many years in the U S of A and no one touches non.veg stuff or alcohol. In fact two of my nephews and

their families are vegans, one step ahead of vegetarians. :thumb:
 
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I lived in US for a while and my brother for 10 years. Neither of us smoke, drink or touch NV food or any other woman . I m not saying all these are wrong things to do, but I do whatever i was taught by my parents. As simple as that. Its not about being wrong or being right, but giving the excuse of being abroad is not right.

Irrespective of being in India, Pakistan or USA, we can remain ourselves.
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Shri indianassault,

I don't know the type of working hours you or your brother had to observe and the location of your workplace in the US. Even in India, there are places like Malappuram district of Kerala or some interior suburbs of Kozhikode, where getting vegetarian food even for the noon meal is a very difficult thing. I have seen this personally while going for inspection of bank branches there. I could somehow manage to get rice and buttermilk and depend on the branch staff for some vegetarian pickle.

Hence, it is "ignorance is bliss" and once you have no inkling of this country, you can holler out any opinion. I don't know much about either US or London, but it is a fact that my son who works in London faced food problems especially when he was asked to work the night shift for some period of time; may be his workplace was in a location like the suburb of Kozhikode or Malappuram.

Even in a Christian predominant centre, Kanjirappally, you will not find any vegetarian hotel except during the Sabarimala season. You have to go about 20 kms away and if you have to depend on public transport you will spend much of the afternoon in commuting and return only by 4 P.M. back in the bank branch. That will affect the work schedule.

A cousin of mine, a very top executive in GOI and a very orthodox tabra once went to Japan for a fortnight. He had taken aval and some other vegetarian items with him. But he found that curd or buttermilk was smelling like NV and so he used to eat the aval with whatever bhakshanams he had taken with him. Fortunately he finished his official work but after returning he suffered for more than a month due to severe stomach problems and had to be hospitalized also.

Hence my request to you is not jump to conclusions. None of us knows this world completely and very little about the actual conditions in which different people are compelled to work and live.
 
sangom said:


Shri indianassault,

I don't know the type of working hours you or your brother had to observe and the location of your workplace in the US. Even in India, there are places like Malappuram district of Kerala or some interior suburbs of Kozhikode, where getting vegetarian food even for the noon meal is a very difficult thing. I have seen this personally while going for inspection of bank branches there. I could somehow manage to get rice and buttermilk and depend on the branch staff for some vegetarian pickle.

Hence, it is "ignorance is bliss" and once you have no inkling of this country, you can holler out any opinion. I don't know much about either US or London, but it is a fact that my son who works in London faced food problems especially when he was asked to work the night shift for some period of time; may be his workplace was in a location like the suburb of Kozhikode or Malappuram.

Even in a Christian predominant centre, Kanjirappally, you will not find any vegetarian hotel except during the Sabarimala season. You have to go about 20 kms away and if you have to depend on public transport you will spend much of the afternoon in commuting and return only by 4 P.M. back in the bank branch. That will affect the work schedule.

A cousin of mine, a very top executive in GOI and a very orthodox tabra once went to Japan for a fortnight. He had taken aval and some other vegetarian items with him. But he found that curd or buttermilk was smelling like NV and so he used to eat the aval with whatever bhakshanams he had taken with him. Fortunately he finished his official work but after returning he suffered for more than a month due to severe stomach problems and had to be hospitalized also.

Hence my request to you is not jump to conclusions. None of us knows this world completely and very little about the actual conditions in which different people are compelled to work and live.
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Sir,
I am not jumping to any conclusions or being ignorant. But it is hard to believe that there are offices without proper cafeteria s when their employees are working night shifts and curd or buttermilk smelling like NV. I think we should be able to adapt with whatever veg thats available. Problem arises when we are trying to be choosy and think about lack of options.
 
Shri indianassault,
You are right, and applaud you and your brother.

USA, Canada, Uk, Australia, and NZ, I have lived there, I have family and friends who are honest, and do not have to prove to anyone, maintain that you can get vegetarian food any time of the day. I have worked at all times of the day. I have worked nights, and even pulled 24 hour work during 2K implementation, in Green Bay Wisconsin. I have worked in Sale a small town in England, close to Manchester.

There are 24 hour grocery stores in every City (at least 10000 people). Would you get home cooked Sambar and Rasam I doubt that, but vegetarian food to survive absolutely.
 
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prasad1 said:
Shri indianassault,
You are right, and applaud you and your brother.

USA, Canada, Uk, Australia, and NZ, I have lived there, I have family and friends who are honest, and do not have to prove to anyone, maintain that you can get vegetarian food any time of the day. I have worked at all times of the day. I have worked nights, and even pulled 24 hour work during 2K implementation, in Green Bay Wisconsin. I have worked in Sale a small town in England, close to Manchester.

There are 24 hour grocery stores in every City (at least 10000 people). Would you get home cooked Sambar and Rasam I doubt that, but vegetarian food to survive absolutely.
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Thank you. And one more thing to users Sangom, Prasad1 and all members, you can address me as Vivek or with my username. I find it odd when elders using SHRI to address me . Usually younger people should do that to elders. :)
 
I am a new member who has joined in dec. 2013
i cannot resist talking about the compromises made by veggies
1. My BIl would remove upper half of red tilak while going to office and attending office parties. his compromise with caste mark relieved him of his guilt feeling. he told me that.
2. take gravy part of chicken dishes as he found them very delicious ignoring few small bone pieces in them
3. becoming eggetarian when attacking omelette. I survived on omelettes in france for several months. you get wonderful omelettes of different variety
4. take the holy Thaneer in parties with masala paan to make a decent entry home. this thaneer is more easily available and cheaper than drinking water abroad
I feel adjusting to food with minimum compromises is key to happy living
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krish44 said:
I am a new member who has joined in dec. 2013
i cannot resist talking about the compromises made by veggies
1. My BIl would remove upper half of red tilak while going to office and attending office parties. his compromise with caste mark relieved him of his guilt feeling. he told me that.
2. take gravy part of chicken dishes as he found them very delicious ignoring few small bone pieces in them
3. becoming eggetarian when attacking omelette. I survived on omelettes in france for several months. you get wonderful omelettes of different variety
4. take the holy Thaneer in parties with masala paan to make a decent entry home. this thaneer is more easily available and cheaper than drinking water abroad
I feel adjusting to food with minimum compromises is key to happy living
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right on krish!

the willingness to adjust and try out new stuff is an admirable trait i think. nowadays, the west is a vegetarian's delight - more so than india, i think. there are various schools of veggie cooking - chinese stir fry, italian, sushi, veggie burgers, grilled vegetables, mediterranean types like hummous falafel and too numerous to mention here.

i would think china/japan might pose a challenge. having been in both the places.

your bil example reminded me of my best friend who used to do the same thing. when we were in hostel, he used to cross over to the non veg section, and get the gravy :) even more fascinating was another tambram guy (who is no more) who used to perform the prayers that we do with rice at the start of the meal - except he did it with the chicken. he was a very religious guy, did his sandhi regularly, was a carnatic music fan (always used to sing some ragam when he was walking or by himself) and somewhat eccentric. he was killed in a car accident in the usa in his early 30s, leaving behind a young wife and two little ones - a toddler and an infant :(
 
When I talked of omelettes in france,I talk of late seventies. I was stuck in a small town in south france[arles near marseilles] with a limited indian govt support. Now of course times have changed. whether it is Istanbul or dubai in mideast,frieberg or koln in germamy or even on top of the ALPS in switzerland good indian veg food is available. Incidentally on top of the alps the veg food on the plate -rice,chapathi.dal.veg gravvy is charged by net weight of the plate with veg stuff minus weight of empty plate. at the base of the alps mountain a kiosk operated by a rajasthani gives wonderful elaichi chai. You will also find billboards of SRK and Kajol staring down on you at the top of the mountain. swiss know how to market their tourism
 
The way how the parents maintain their eating habits , so the son or daughter will maintain from childhood, Advising and guiding their children about their good eating habits and karma, brahamacharitham etc will last long for years
 
Except China other places that I have visited such as Hongkong, Middle East, Africa, USA & Canada have either Indian restaurants or Local/International restaurants that have Veg menu

China is the toughest as any curry that they make has non veg (could be even with snakes or scorpion, worms and centipedes too)...Fortunately I had ghee and paruppu podi with me and ate with rice...Sometimes had only chilly sauce rice with some bun/bread..A tough time indeed..

Vegetarians beware in China as they eat everything that flies except aeroplanes, everything that has 4 legs except tables, everything that swims except a submarine..There is a Cantonese saying to this effect
 
Just a word of caution to those who are vegetarians or have been vegetarian for a long long time.
Do not try to adjust too much at places and try to take gravy of a Non Veg dish ..thinking just the gravy will not do any harm.

When our body has never eaten something before or taken something in a very very long time there is a risk of breaking out in an allergy.

I have seen a case of a near and dear one who never used to be allergic to sea food but after turning vegetarian for some 3 years one day he took a soup at an office function where he was not told that the stock of the soup had crab flavoring and that was it! After 1 hour he broke out into rashes all over the body with slight breathing difficulty...so its always better not to try anything we have never eaten or not taken in a very very long time.
 
renuka said:
Just a word of caution to those who are vegetarians or have been vegetarian for a long long time.
Do not try to adjust too much at places and try to take gravy of a Non Veg dish ..thinking just the gravy will not do any harm.

When our body has never eaten something before or taken something in a very very long time there is a risk of breaking out in an allergy.

I have seen a case of a near and dear one who never used to be allergic to sea food but after turning vegetarian for some 3 years one day he took a soup at an office function where he was not told that the stock of the soup had crab flavoring and that was it! After 1 hour he broke out into rashes all over the body with slight breathing difficulty...so its always better not to try anything we have never eaten or not taken in a very very long time.
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This is all poochandi. let us enjoy our gravvy allergy or no allergy
 
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