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Comparing intercaste marriages (TB vs Other Brahmins)

hi

just my own experience....as TB studied vedas/sanskrit.....we moved to USA...my daughter did medical school

and got married with american guy......im not happy with that....but now days...parents are helpless too...this

is truth in western countries....parents dont want loose their kids.....for the sake of kids happiness....many

tb brahmin parents sacrifice their own happiness.....this is present day scenario...
Hope your daughter and her husband are happy and doing well. Marriages it is said are made in heaven - meaning no one can control who marries whom etc.

In true love there is no question of feeling sacrifice. Raising s child is a privilege and it stops at that. Happiness is in the very act of doing the duty of raising a child.

On Children
Kahlil Gibran
Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.
You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,
which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them,
but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.
You are the bows from which your children
as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite,
and He bends you with His might
that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies,
so He loves also the bow that is stable.
 
hi

just my own experience....as TB studied vedas/sanskrit.....we moved to USA...my daughter did medical school

and got married with american guy......im not happy with that....but now days...parents are helpless too...this

is truth in western countries....parents dont want loose their kids.....for the sake of kids happiness....many

tb brahmin parents sacrifice their own happiness.....this is present day scenario...
Did you ask your daughter why she preferred an American boy instead of one from the same community? May be marrying an American bring more career opportunities. You may ascertain the reason which will throw some light on such inter faith marriages.
 
Hope your daughter and her husband are happy and doing well. Marriages it is said are made in heaven - meaning no one can control who marries whom etc.

In true love there is no question of feeling sacrifice. Raising s child is a privilege and it stops at that. Happiness is in the very act of doing the duty of raising a child.

On Children
Kahlil Gibran
Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.
You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,
which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them,
but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.
You are the bows from which your children
as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite,
and He bends you with His might
that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies,
so He loves also the bow that is stable.
hi

i believe in karma.....every individual has own karma....i try to bhagavad gita words.....
 
Did you ask your daughter why she preferred an American boy instead of one from the same community? May be marrying an American bring more career opportunities. You may ascertain the reason which will throw some light on such inter faith marriages.
hi
yes....own community has more hypocracy.....still conservative ideas.....she said 2 things to me....

she is american USMD doctor.....she said ...no indian....no doctor....its her choice....now a days...

kids are more responsible .....they know positive and negative impact on life.....sometimes we are

more conservative....they are more liberals....
 
hi
yes....own community has more hypocracy.....still conservative ideas.....she said 2 things to me....

she is american USMD doctor.....she said ...no indian....no doctor....its her choice....now a days...

kids are more responsible .....they know positive and negative impact on life.....sometimes we are

more conservative....they are more liberals....
It seems she doesn't have faith in Hindu philosophy or serious about Hindu religion, let alone being an Indian. Liberal is a convenient word to switch sides. There is no use either to the community or religion from such people. But still we proud to say our children are in the West. This is the peculiar characteristic of our community.
 
It seems she doesn't have faith in Hindu philosophy or serious about Hindu religion, let alone being an Indian. Liberal is a convenient word to switch sides. There is no use either to the community or religion from such people. But still we proud to say our children are in the West. This is the peculiar characteristic of our community.
hi
she visit hindu temples....but she is not much follow religiously.....here everything is convenient....we can't help...
 
hi
yes....own community has more hypocracy.....still conservative ideas.....she said 2 things to me....

she is american USMD doctor.....she said ...no indian....no doctor....its her choice....now a days...

kids are more responsible .....they know positive and negative impact on life.....sometimes we are

more conservative....they are more liberals....
This isn’t about conservatism or liberalism—it’s about exchanging one form of ignorance for another.

The true essence of universal dharma remains largely unknown, even to many Hindus. In 1893, during a time when racism was prevalent in American society, a 30-year-old monk named Swami Vivekananda stood before an audience in Chicago and inspired them. He arrived as an unknown, yet his message resonated so deeply that his words were recorded, preserved, and continue to be remembered. He didn’t just teach Vedanta; he introduced Americans to a wide array of profound Hindu ideas and practices. His iconic address even included a mantra from the daily Sandhyavandanam.

Today, however, many have mistaken superstitions and superficial rituals for eternal dharma. Going to temples can be a meaningful practice, but when certain traditions become exclusionary or dogmatic, they alienate. Hinduism has always encouraged questioning and critical thinking—yet honest questions are often met with inadequate or dismissive answers. As a result, many young people, especially in the diaspora, are turning away from these practices.

I once witnessed a telling moment in a U.S. temple. A young man—born to an Indian mother and an American father—asked the priest why Lord Venkateswara has two consorts: Bhu Devi and Lakshmi. The priest replied, “When Venkateswara comes to earth, he has one wife; when he returns to heaven, he has another.” This response, though perhaps well-meaning, lacked depth and failed to engage the spirit of inquiry. One may even say it is stupid.

Tamil Brahmin culture, with its satvic grounding, may endure as a set of personal and family practices. Or practices will continue because it is rooted in eternal dharma but it may be embedded in another culture

But its more divisive and hypocritical aspects will naturally fade away. Ignorance doesn’t last forever—it erodes with time. There’s nothing to mourn in that.

There is nothing to save of many of the thinking and practices of most TB people. It is a sad state of ignorance
 
I once witnessed a telling moment in a U.S. temple. A young man—born to an Indian mother and an American father—asked the priest why Lord Venkateswara has two consorts: Bhu Devi and Lakshmi. The priest replied, “When Venkateswara comes to earth, he has one wife; when he returns to heaven, he has another.” This response, though perhaps well-meaning, lacked depth and failed to engage the spirit of inquiry. One may even say it is stupid.



I hope you had explained to the young man the significance of Bhu Devi and Lakshmi.
 
hi
she visit hindu temples....but she is not much follow religiously.....here everything is convenient....we can't help...
May be your daughter prefers leading a life which focuses on inward spiritual transformation.
When parents are old, its daughters who take care of them mostly.
Even if a daughter might not be too religious but she never neglects her parents.
Isnt that what being spiritual is all about?
 
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It seems she doesn't have faith in Hindu philosophy or serious about Hindu religion, let alone being an Indian. Liberal is a convenient word to switch sides. There is no use either to the community or religion from such people. But still we proud to say our children are in the West. This is the peculiar characteristic of our community.
No one in this world is " no use" to anything.
Everyone of usvis here to work out our Karma and that is the main purpose of our existence.
God put all of us to good use here.
We come alone, we go alone..religion is a tool to reach realization..community we belong to provides the DNA..we leave both behind when we leave.
 
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No one in this world is " no use" to anything.
Everyone of usvis here to work out our Karma and that is the main purpose of our existence.
God put all of us to good use here.
We come alone, we go alone..religion is a tool to reach realization..community we belong to provides the DNA..we leave both behind when we leave.
But karma, religion, DNA work differently and not uniformly in all religions.
 
hi
she visit hindu temples....but she is not much follow religiously.....here everything is convenient....we can't help...
This is the peculiar characteristic of Hindu religion. It never preaches strict code, which ultimately makes Hindus not disciplined as far as religion is concerned.
 
I mentioned there are other explanations. There was no interest to follow up.
I know this post below is beyond scope of topic of the thread. Let me share the following regardless for completeness.

——

The depiction of Lord Venkateswara (a form of Vishnu) with his two consorts—Bhu Devi and Lakshmi Devi—holds deep spiritual and philosophical significance rooted in Vedantic, Puranic, and devotional traditions.

Bhu Devi and Lakshmi Devi represent two aspects of divine grace and the Lord’s relationship with the universe:
  1. Lakshmi Devi – Spiritual Wealth and Inner Prosperity
    Lakshmi is the goddess of wealth of character and spiritual fullness. As Vishnu’s eternal consort, she symbolizes the divine energy (Shakti) that uplifts the seeker. Her presence with Venkateswara highlights the Lord’s compassion to bestow wisdom.
  2. Bhu Devi – The Earth and Material Existence
    Bhu Devi, often identified as a manifestation of the Earth goddess, represents the material world (Prakriti) and the sustaining energy of the universe. Her association with the Lord reflects the divine role in nurturing, protecting, and sustaining the universe.
  • Lakshmi signifies the transcendental, the divine grace that helps devotees rise above worldly attachments.
  • Bhu Devi signifies the immanent, the grounding force that connects the divine to the earthly plane.
The other schools of thought may have different explanations
 
I know this post below is beyond scope of topic of the thread. Let me share the following regardless for completeness.

——

The depiction of Lord Venkateswara (a form of Vishnu) with his two consorts—Bhu Devi and Lakshmi Devi—holds deep spiritual and philosophical significance rooted in Vedantic, Puranic, and devotional traditions.

Bhu Devi and Lakshmi Devi represent two aspects of divine grace and the Lord’s relationship with the universe:
  1. Lakshmi Devi – Spiritual Wealth and Inner Prosperity
    Lakshmi is the goddess of wealth of character and spiritual fullness. As Vishnu’s eternal consort, she symbolizes the divine energy (Shakti) that uplifts the seeker. Her presence with Venkateswara highlights the Lord’s compassion to bestow wisdom.
  2. Bhu Devi – The Earth and Material Existence
    Bhu Devi, often identified as a manifestation of the Earth goddess, represents the material world (Prakriti) and the sustaining energy of the universe. Her association with the Lord reflects the divine role in nurturing, protecting, and sustaining the universe.
  • Lakshmi signifies the transcendental, the divine grace that helps devotees rise above worldly attachments.
  • Bhu Devi signifies the immanent, the grounding force that connects the divine to the earthly plane.
The other schools of thought may have different explanations
Thank you very much.
 
This isn’t about conservatism or liberalism—it’s about exchanging one form of ignorance for another.

The true essence of universal dharma remains largely unknown, even to many Hindus. In 1893, during a time when racism was prevalent in American society, a 30-year-old monk named Swami Vivekananda stood before an audience in Chicago and inspired them. He arrived as an unknown, yet his message resonated so deeply that his words were recorded, preserved, and continue to be remembered. He didn’t just teach Vedanta; he introduced Americans to a wide array of profound Hindu ideas and practices. His iconic address even included a mantra from the daily Sandhyavandanam.

Today, however, many have mistaken superstitions and superficial rituals for eternal dharma. Going to temples can be a meaningful practice, but when certain traditions become exclusionary or dogmatic, they alienate. Hinduism has always encouraged questioning and critical thinking—yet honest questions are often met with inadequate or dismissive answers. As a result, many young people, especially in the diaspora, are turning away from these practices.

I once witnessed a telling moment in a U.S. temple. A young man—born to an Indian mother and an American father—asked the priest why Lord Venkateswara has two consorts: Bhu Devi and Lakshmi. The priest replied, “When Venkateswara comes to earth, he has one wife; when he returns to heaven, he has another.” This response, though perhaps well-meaning, lacked depth and failed to engage the spirit of inquiry. One may even say it is stupid.

Tamil Brahmin culture, with its satvic grounding, may endure as a set of personal and family practices. Or practices will continue because it is rooted in eternal dharma but it may be embedded in another culture

But its more divisive and hypocritical aspects will naturally fade away. Ignorance doesn’t last forever—it erodes with time. There’s nothing to mourn in that.

There is nothing to save of many of the thinking and practices of most TB people. It is a sad state of ignorance

There is nothing to save of many of the thinking and practices of most TB people. It is a sad state of ignorance...

may be ignorance...there are many smartest among TB's too....

may be ignorance....survival is the fittest.....
 
There is nothing to save of many of the thinking and practices of most TB people. It is a sad state of ignorance...

may be ignorance...there are many smartest among TB's too....

may be ignorance....survival is the fittest.....
In the realm of superstitious beliefs, ignorance reflects a lack of wisdom, as individuals often overlook the innate discernment present in all humans, regardless of their intellectual capacity. A person may hold a prestigious title, such as a Nobel Laureate, yet still exhibit unwise behavior, while someone without formal education can demonstrate profound maturity. So I am not talking about intellect based smartness but lack of being able to assert Viveka that is endowed in all huma beings.

Throughout history, major religions have often created divisions, with many biblical traditions showing resistance to scientific inquiry. The essence of science lies in its open-mindedness and adaptability, and it is unwise to rigidly interpret scientific findings based on current understandings, which are bound to evolve.

The case of Galileo, who faced the Roman Catholic Inquisition in 1633 and was compelled to renounce his beliefs, illustrates the struggle between science and dogma. Similarly, Charles Darwin encountered fierce opposition from religious factions upon the release of his groundbreaking work, "On the Origin of Species," in 1859, as it challenged traditional creation narratives. Giordano Bruno, a 16th-century thinker, was executed for his revolutionary ideas about the infinite universe. Furthermore, religious authorities have historically resisted medical advancements, fearing they might disrupt divine intentions.

In contrast, Sanatana Dharma, grounded in the Vedas, authentic Puranas, and the Upanishads, harmonizes with the scientific spirit. What may seem contradictory is often part of a teaching method known as adhyaropa-apavada, which illustrates the journey of understanding through various stages. For instance, the designation of Brahmachari is a temporary imposition that can later transform into the role of Grahasta, reflecting the fluidity of human experience.

Unfortunately, many individuals, influenced by pseudo-texts and the contradictions within Tamil Brahmin culture, find themselves entangled in superstitions that hinder their understanding of true Hindu teachings. These superstitions manifest in various ways, such as the belief in miracles, misinterpretations of Puranic stories as literal truths, and the erroneous notion that one's birth star determines fate.

To preserve the essence of Sanatana Dharma and hence the so called Tamil Brahmin cluture, it is essential to embrace its authentic teachings, free from detrimental beliefs. Though societal conditioning may lead many astray, there remains a path to understanding and living in accordance with true Dharma, which ultimately serves as the best safeguard for its principles.

If there is a way to live the teachings of true Hindu Dharma without resorting to unfounded beliefs and miracles, why is there a resistance. There is no such thing as a caste but when it is in the psyche, it is easy to appreciate many facets of Tamil Brahmin culture. Young and old would want to continue the practices without any real effort. It is all about getting past ignorance. That was the main point

Anyway thanks for the engagement
 


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