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Can I overload the Prayer team members with added prayers for less harsh winter in USA - many areas have suffered by repeated snow storms this year and still continue to do so ... ?

 

[tbs]

Can I overload the Prayer team members with added prayers for less harsh winter in USA - many areas have suffered by repeated snow storms this year and still continue to do so ... ?

hi

tonight we are expecting a BIG NORTHESTER SNOW FROM WASHINGTON DC TO BOSTON ...east coast corridor...more than 10

inches of snow......

 

[sravna]

Can I overload the Prayer team members with added prayers for less harsh winter in USA - many areas have suffered by repeated snow storms this year and still continue to do so ... ?

Yes, and in general a less harsh and a comfortable, peaceful world.

 

[renuka]

Prayer involves belief in God and acknowledging that there are things which we ourselves cannot accomplish. Your ego is less at work at that time and indicates you are on the right track. All actions and the corresponding reactions also serve the same purpose , that of lessening the ego. It is probably the effect of your karma that makes you believe totally in God and pray to him.

Such persons to my experience and knowledge pray more for the common good than for self and the former much more likely to be granted by God because it promotes harmony

Dear Sravna,

Technically the same Universal Consciousness(a.k.a God) pervades the entire Universe right from a speck of dust to the gigantic blue whale.

Now..the same Universal Consciousness is also in all humans..you, me and everyone.

So by us taking action oriented initiatives does not that equal to God taking action too?

Why do you want God to be an external force to keep running to whenever we need help?

Sravna let me be frank..I am quite aware that you do subscribe to the believe that some people are more spiritually evolved than others and their "mind" can project positive energy that can heal and rectify the so called imbalances in nature and life.

So I hope you are not conducting the mass prayer session along this lines which is not very "healthy" in my opinion.

 

[sravna]

Dear Sravna,

Technically the same Universal Consciousness(a.k.a God) pervades the entire Universe right from a speck of dust to the gigantic blue whale.

Now..the same Universal Consciousness is also in all humans..you, me and everyone.

So by us taking action oriented initiatives does not that equal to God taking action too?

Why do you want God to be an external force to keep running to whenever we need help?

Sravna let me be frank..I am quite aware that you do subscribe to the believe that some people are more spiritually evolved than others and their "mind" can project positive energy that can heal and rectify the so called imbalances in nature and life.

So I hope you are not conducting the mass prayer session along this lines which is not very "healthy" in my opinion.

Dear Renuka,

Yes I am not consciously conducting it along those lines. God in my view is nothing but the ultimate spiritual reality called the nirguna brahman, or Sriman Narayana etc etc. When you raise the level of your thoughts by praying for the common good, it reaches God and attains the power to fulfill the wishes.

I agree with you we have to act ourselves to get the job done but we have to have the right thinking to act. Prayer helps in that as above. That is the reason I said divine intervention works in a way that mostly seems logical. Divine acts actually are there all the time but in a manner that is not obvious. Sometimes it explicitly seems to be a divine act especially when things go out of control. We call that a miracle.

 

[Raji Ram]

Can I overload the Prayer team members with added prayers for less harsh winter in USA - many areas have suffered by repeated snow storms this year and still continue to do so ... ?

Dear TKS Sir,
I think you have to form a team in the U S of A to pray for your country! :grouphug:

See, we can't pray only for Sing. Chennai. (selfish, eh?!!)

 

[sravna]

Dear TKS Sir,
I think you have to form a team in the U S of A to pray for your country! :grouphug:

See, we can't pray only for Sing. Chennai. (selfish, eh?!!)

Dear Smt RR,

Generally we seek the help of U.S. technology for everything and so feel good the Americans
are seeking the spiritual help for something.

 

[tks]

Dear TKS Sir,
I think you have to form a team in the U S of A to pray for your country! :grouphug:

See, we can't pray only for Sing. Chennai. (selfish, eh?!!)

Good advice .. I have to start by enrolling my forum brother Nara first But he is nowhere to be seen these days .. Perhaps this post will wake him up and appear here in another avatara ..

 

[P.J.]

Can I overload the Prayer team members with added prayers for less harsh winter in USA - many areas have suffered by repeated snow storms this year and still continue to do so ... ?

Thanks for your consideration about people who are living in US facing severe winter this year.

 

[sravna]

Just some info related to the thread.

2014 is predicted to be the hottest year ever because of the probability of what is called as the El Nino effect happening. Take a look at this El Niño - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The El Nino effect is predicted to happen with a probability of 0.76. Even if it doesn't happen this year will still be one of the hottest years on record because of climate change.

 

[ashwin_ash]

Just some info related to the thread.

2014 is predicted to be the hottest year ever because of the probability of what is called as the El Nino effect happening. Take a look at this El Niño - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The El Nino effect is predicted to happen with a probability of 0.76. Even if it doesn't happen this year will still be one of the hottest years on record because of climate change.

Now you're talking meteorology! Prayers won't halt El Nino, or La Nina (counterpart of El Nino, even more devastating).

 

[prasad1]

So I hope you are not conducting the mass prayer session along this lines which is not very "healthy" in my opinion.

If prayers was the answer to your problems, why did Krishna ask Arjuna to fight the Mahabharata war? Krishna should have asked Arjuna to pray instead of fighting the war.

Krishna presents three main concepts for achieving this dissolution of the soul -- renunciation, selfless service, and meditation. All three are elements for achieving 'yoga,' or skill in action. Krishna says that the truly divine human does not renounce all worldly possessions or simply give up action, but rather finds peace in completing action in the highest service to God. As a result, a person must avoid the respective traps of the three gunas: rajas (anger, ego), tamas (ignorance, darkness), and saatva (harmony, purity).

The Gita ends with Krishna telling Arjuna he must choose the path of good or evil, as it his his duty to fight the Kauravas for his kingdom. In that, he is correcting the balance of good and evil, fulfilling his dharma, and offering the deepest form of selfless service. Arjuna understands and, with that, proceeds into battle.

 

[sravna]

If prayers was the answer to your problems, why did Krishna ask Arjuna to fight the Mahabharata war? Krishna should have asked Arjuna to pray instead of fighting the war.

Krishna presents three main concepts for achieving this dissolution of the soul -- renunciation, selfless service, and meditation. All three are elements for achieving 'yoga,' or skill in action. Krishna says that the truly divine human does not renounce all worldly possessions or simply give up action, but rather finds peace in completing action in the highest service to God. As a result, a person must avoid the respective traps of the three gunas: rajas (anger, ego), tamas (ignorance, darkness), and saatva (harmony, purity).

The Gita ends with Krishna telling Arjuna he must choose the path of good or evil, as it his his duty to fight the Kauravas for his kingdom. In that, he is correcting the balance of good and evil, fulfilling his dharma, and offering the deepest form of selfless service. Arjuna understands and, with that, proceeds into battle.

Dear Shri Prasad,

Even though the war was fought it was mainly for name sake. Krishna used his magical powers to ensure that the Pandavas won the war. I agree that there has to be action but there should also be the belief that it is God who is responsible for everything. Prayer is an explicit way of acknowledging that, so that God will show us the solution in some way or the other and if needed make it occur in a magical way.

In my earlier post I mentioned about the El Nino effect that is supposed to make this year the hottest ever. Reducing that effect is something beyond our control. So we need the divine help.

 

[prasad1]

I agree that there has to be action but there should also be the belief that it is God who is responsible for everything.
So you must do the action and be responsible for the consequence of the action, yes you must have the faith in God, and leave the results to him.


Prayer is an explicit way of acknowledging that, so that God will show us the solution in some way or the other and if needed make it occur in a magical way.

Prayers may be for getting your mind focussed, and not for the end results.

I do not believe that even God says that he will change the outcome. If that was true Krishna would have said do not fight the battle, I am on your side Arjuna and I will make it happen. But that is not what Gita tells us.

What is the use of advaita, if God will listen to you and change the future for your begging. I do not believe in Brahmam (the Paramatma) getting swayed by one person's prayer. You are expecting the universal Atma to be biased, then whole concept of Paramatma is lost.
The Paramatma can not be bought. If you want your God to abrahamic god that is a demigod with limited powers and ego to boot, you must give up Advaita Philosophy.
I am not being confrontational but I am unable to understand how you can compromise between Brahman and Abrahamic God.

 

[sravna]

I do not believe that even God says that he will change the outcome. If that was true Krishna would have said do not fight the battle, I am on your side Arjuna and I will make it happen. But that is not what Gita tells us.

What is the use of advaita, if God will listen to you and change the future for your begging. I do not believe in Brahmam (the Paramatma) getting swayed by one person's prayer. You are expecting the universal Atma to be biased, then whole concept of Paramatma is lost.
The Paramatma can not be bought. If you want your God to abrahamic god that is a demigod with limited powers and ego to boot, you must give up Advaita Philosophy.
I am not being confrontational but I am unable to understand how you can compromise between Brahman and Abrahamic God.

Dear Shri Prasad,

Would you not agree that you are all the time shaping your future by your thoughts? According to advaita God in reality is nothing but you. So by praying you are only raising your level of thoughts and making them lot more potent. So there is no contradiction between praying and the philosophy of advaita.

 

[biswa]

Has anybody heard of the butterfly effect?

What if cooler temperatures in Chennai completely wipe out an entire species of amphibians somewhere else in the world?

 

[sravna]

Has anybody heard of the butterfly effect?

What if cooler temperatures in Chennai completely wipe out an entire species of amphibians somewhere else in the world?

Dear Biswa,

We do not have to worry because if it happens it is by the divine way. So I do not think there will be any butterfly effect.

 

[renuka]

Dear Biswa,

We do not have to worry because if it happens it is by the divine way. So I do not think there will be any butterfly effect.

Dear Sravna,

There is only ONE way and that is the way things are supposed to be.

When we dont know how it works we call it DIVINE.

Sravna, I full agree with Prasad ji's post..Lord Krishna had drilled it into the head of Arjuna "Where did this cowardice come at the hour of need..get rid of this fear..get up and fight"

I was just thinking..countless battles have been fought by Kings in India with invaders.

Avatars themselves had taken up weapons to set things right..everyone was engaged in action and not INACTION.

Even Mahatma Gandhi did not sit down and keep praying for independence.
He got up and fought the Ahimsa way.

No where in scriptures it says we do nothing!

Sravna..isnt it clear that GOD is actually an Action Hero??

 

[sravna]

It is perceptibly cooler today at Kotturpuram. Anyone else feeling the difference?

 

[indianassault]

I do not believe that even God says that he will change the outcome. If that was true Krishna would have said do not fight the battle, I am on your side Arjuna and I will make it happen. But that is not what Gita tells us.

What is the use of advaita, if God will listen to you and change the future for your begging. I do not believe in Brahmam (the Paramatma) getting swayed by one person's prayer. You are expecting the universal Atma to be biased, then whole concept of Paramatma is lost.
The Paramatma can not be bought. If you want your God to abrahamic god that is a demigod with limited powers and ego to boot, you must give up Advaita Philosophy.
I am not being confrontational but I am unable to understand how you can compromise between Brahman and Abrahamic God.

Going by Paramathma or Advaita philosphy if Paramathma cannot be bought, why do they encourage idol worship and build temples and mutts?? Why dont they worship the space or why worship at all ?? If my limited knowledge is correct, Advaita was preached by Adhishankara and his parivarams right??

 

[indianassault]

Avatars themselves had taken up weapons to set things right..everyone was engaged in action and not INACTION.

Even Mahatma Gandhi did not sit down and keep praying for independence.
He got up and fought the Ahimsa way.

No where in scriptures it says we do nothing!

Sravna..isnt it clear that GOD is actually an Action Hero??

Renuka Madam,
I think Prayer is not inaction. It needs focus and its a key enabler for action , in my opinion.

Gandhiji ? LOL..He liked to GUN all his life , but afraid of real GUN and hence took Ahimsa

 

[sravna]

Dear Folks,

As a special bonus for Chennai people, a gentle cool breeze will be prayed for along with low temperatures.

 

[renuka]

Renuka Madam,
I think Prayer is not inaction. It needs focus and its a key enabler for action , in my opinion.

Gandhiji ? LOL..He liked to GUN all his life , but afraid of real GUN and hence took Ahimsa

Assault ji...LOL!

One time I used the word Gun and you seem addicted to the word!LOL


This song is for you.

Good-bye Joe, he gotta go, me oh my oh
He gotta-go pole the pirogue down the bayou
His Yvonne the sweetest one, me oh my oh
Son of a gun, we'll have big fun on the bayou


[video=youtube_share;8RhXN2-ZB80]http://youtu.be/8RhXN2-ZB80[/video]

 

[renuka]

Dear Folks,

As a special bonus for Chennai people, a gentle cool breeze will be prayed for along with low temperatures.

Sravna??? What?? Now you are having special offers and bonus too? While stocks last??

 

[ashwin_ash]

Sravna??? What?? Now you are having special offers and bonus too? While stocks last??

This is why Chennai can never be blessed with a tolerable climate- The thermal equator (also known as "the heat equator") is a belt encircling the Earth, defined by the set of locations having the highest mean annual temperature at each longitude around the globe.

Chennai is bang on the thermal equator.