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Elephant trained to beg....

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zebra16 said:
Where is the picture of the dogs returning to their seats with their bowls filled with soup (or whatever stuff the man is serving)?
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Welcome Sir

You conveyed a nice message....thanks...

Will this do....?


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Exploiting animals for entertainment....

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What Adharma!

Lord Krishna said that its better to do one's own dharma even though faulty than to do another's dharma perfectly and here we have humans who feel they can train dogs and animals for personal use totally going against Kutta Dharma...Hey Ram...What type of species are humans.

No other species exploits another like humans!
 
renuka said:
Dear RR ji,

Worry not...Regurgitate can be divine too.

Taittiriya Upanishad came into being becos of Regurgitate of Yajnavalkya.



1. The great sage Yajnavalkya quarrelled with his preceptor. He was asked by Vaishampayana, his Guru, to return the Veda which he had studied under him. Yajnavalkya vomited the Yajurveda he had learnt. The other Rishis, the pupils of Vaishampayana, assumed the forms of Tittiris (birds, partridges) and swallowed the Veda thus thrown out or vomited. Therefore it came to be known as Taittiriya-Samhita.


http://sivanandaonline.org/public_html/?cmd=displaysection&section_id=586
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No wonder Yajnavalkya did not learn anything because he had not at all digested taittiriyam. By the way,what was taittiriyam called before regurgitation by Yajnavalkya..?
 
Look at the way how we handle the King of the jungle..!!!!


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Idea of relative comparison in creation belongs only in a human mind. All beings other than humans just exist following the 'Dharma' of their creation. They do not know how to self judge and compare to other species or within their own species.

Humans have this but one unique endowment. They have the ultimate freedom to do what is against their interest and pay the consequences (which is part of natural consequences within Dharma) . They harm all other beings for own selfish desires.

A thought to reflect on: One in 10 million leverage their endowment of Viveka in the world and achieve liberation within a generation. This is not restricted only human beings in India. A million out of 7 billion people may have led a reasonable life of balanced dharma and adharma. For all other humans, lack of discipline and understanding means that would have abused their endowment of free will experience and wasted the potential of their human life.
 
tks said:
Idea of relative comparison in creation belongs only in a human mind. All beings other than humans just exist following the 'Dharma' of their creation. They do not know how to self judge and compare to other species or within their own species.

Humans have this but one unique endowment. They have the ultimate freedom to do what is against their interest and pay the consequences (which is part of natural consequences within Dharma) . They harm all other beings for own selfish desires.

A thought to reflect on: One in 10 million leverage their endowment of Viveka in the world and achieve liberation within a generation. This is not restricted only human beings in India. A million out of 7 billion people may have led a reasonable life of balanced dharma and adharma. For all other humans, lack of discipline and understanding means that would have abused their endowment of free will experience and wasted the potential of their human life.
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Agreed Sir.

You have put it nicely in a nutshell.

Though some of my postings were really serious in nature like Postings No.14, 17, 18, 24, 44, 83, 103 and 108 since the thread is in Chit Chat, it was navigated more aimed at fun only. :-)

There are still lot of questions like this:

The supreme knowledge of God can only be attained in a human form of life. (Garud Purana)

Thanks for your response Sir.
 
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V.Balasubramani said:
Agreed Sir.

You have put it nicely in a nutshell.

Though some of my postings were really serious in nature like Postings No.14, 17, 18, 24, 44, 83, 103 and 108 since the thread is in Chit Chat, it was navigated more aimed at fun only. :-)

There are still lot of questions like this:

The supreme knowledge of God can only be attained in a human form of life. (Garud Purana)

Thanks for your response Sir.
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Sri VB,

Without some fun threads can get boring.

A little clash here and there is part of how our forum operates and thrives :-)

There are some passive aggressive ways of creating issues. One is to bring irrelevant information or post something that is not respectful to the intensity of the discussion. In the end it is all in the fun only. We tend to develop certain amount of affection with people we spar often provided there is deeper level respect for oneself and others.

Let me comment on your highlighted statement using the Karmic model (which is belief-based only). The Upanishad has not stated this model explicitly but epics like Mahabharata has sections which highlight the essence of this model. The model does not have means for direct validation but it has means for indirect validation. It can be helpful as to how we run our lives.

Going to heaven by being a Devatha is like going on a vacation until our resources run out but those devathas cannot get liberated from birth death cycle while enjoying their stay. Same applies to being in Hell also paying down certain debt of past Papa.

Being an animal is like being in hell for most part since their uniquely endowed capacity cannot help them from suffering or get liberated. They follow dharma and do not accumulate new papa or Punya since no free will experience is involved


The cycle of birth and death cannot be avoided for any Jiva because each of the beings have limitless ('infinite' ) Papa and Punya in their respective 'account' due to limitless past lives. It is a cyclical universe which goes through periods of manifestation and un-manifestation. The Jivas are either dormant or they are going through cycles of birth and death.

You and I have had limitless past lives scoring limitless punya and papa. So there is no hope of paying down the papa debt or exhausting the benefits of Punya for any of us.

The only way out is to get past Papa and Punya and realize Isvara.

This requires discriminative capacity known as Viveka which is a unique human endowment. This coupled with so called free will experience makes it possible to go beyond the birth and death cycle.

After 100 billion lives ranging from bacteria to dog to snake to mosquito to whatever, we have taken this precious human birth. It is possible to be liberated here and now. But most humans will waste this endowment.

But those that are able to realize Isvara here and now, it can be said that "The supreme knowledge of God can only be attained in a human form of life".

Hope you enjoy this song below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6d-rEGZk7A
 
zebra16 said:
By the way,what was taittiriyam called before regurgitation by Yajnavalkya..?
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It was called Anuloma Upanishad..becos there was no regurgitation and bolus of knowledge was moving in its correct flow and direction.



Disclaimer:

Anuloma Upanishad is not a known Upanishad at all.
The answer is just for Zebra Ji going along the flow of his question for fun sake.
 
Supreme is attainable thru a human form so the saying goes,
But what if I decide not to know?
What if I want to exists and not get involved?
Would You..Dear God..let it be or want to solve?

Isn't every form from worm to Brahm only You?
So where can I run...its only You in a Roo Ba Roo.
The same Atma pervades everything so too its said.
Then why is only the Human an exalted state?

When Samadarshinah is what is advocated,
Why then is creation segregated?
Why this duality that exists around?
Dear God..isn't everything Your playground?

You..God..do not use a human as your Vahan,
It can range from Bull to Bird to Mouse and to the Lion.
When Nature sees everything as a sequel.
Why do we have to believe some are more equal?

So let me abandon this thought of even knowing the Supreme,
For Your presence is all around in red,blue and green.
Can I really run away from You?
Or is there no escape for You are my Justuju.







Note:

Meaning: Brahm...Brahman.


Roo Ba Roo...Face to Face.

Justuju...Quest.
 
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Dear VB sir,

When an animal kills a human...they do not undergo Kumbhipakam..but if a human kills an animal...the human becomes Yama Loka Fried Human!LOL

What a sad state...that show animals are protected by a higher power.
 
renuka said:
What a sad state...that show animals are protected by a higher power.
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Doctor Mam,

Yes, it is very sad though they are puranas named after animals and birds, they are not spared from pain and sufferings in this human dominated world.. Why God is so cruel to them....??


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auh said:
Yes, on a iron kadai, purchased from kaliappa stores, refined sunflower oil is heated to their boiling point using liquefied petroleom gas cylinders or electric stove tops, and sinners are plunged in...

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Hey you forgot the Masala...to make the dish hot and spicy!
 
It is turning to be more hilarious. Good to read. But we should also inject topic of the thread in our conversations, some times, No?

Any way continue. Enjoyable.

Thanks Renuka, auh, vbalasubramani, et al.

kgpal
 
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