Folks, I am sure the reasonable members are as fed up as I am with this continuing saga of mocking and recrimination. I was planning not to post in this thread any more, but, an unchallenged lie, repeated often, tends to take on the appearance of truth. So, please bear with me just this one post. I shall restrict myself to setting the record straight and just one comment, but gloves are off.
The case of middle finger:
Here is what I said --
"Renu, I don't understand why you are not able to see Megh's POV. For her, she wants to be able to enter the temple on her own terms, not under false pretenses. She wants to give the middle finger to the man made rules and I support her 100%. Why should she care to enter a place where she is told she is unwelcome on certain days, the loss is not hers as far as I am concerned."
This is about Megh not wanting to enter a temple under false pretenses. Notice that I was not giving any finger to anybody, I only commented on what I thought was Megh's boldness and honestly. It was directed at no person, but only at man-made silly rules. I did not put anybody down, neither did I mock anyone.
Now look at the other middle-finger comment, including the smiley which is supposed somehow transform this nasty comment into a joke -- (to see the complete comment click
here lest I am accused of not providing proper context!)
Bhagwat Gita says do your duty. The finger is supposed to do its duty.
As part of that duty, my middlefinger is shown to nonbelievers!
Here, as part of the discussion between Theists and non-believers, this man wrote the above. Those who try to draw a false equivalency between what I said and this are hypocrites.
Next, bovine feces -- this phrase by itself is not offensive, it is a euphemism for a more crude phrase, one that I see to my utter amazement so casually used in India. This man is trying to say the euphemism itself is offensive. He is entitled to his view, but I disagree.
Leaving that aside, he says I used this phrase to characterize
other members' words. This is a lie, a bovine feces kind of lie.
Here is what I said
here:
Folks, please do not take my word for it, please google "ad hominem" and see for yourself. How one was raised has no bearing on the validity or absurdity of what they say -- whether it is golden or just plain bovine feces must be determined by what is being said, not by how one was raised.
This was in the context of a demand to know how Yamaka was raised. As any reasonable person can see I did not say any member's words were bovine anything.
The next time I used the phrase was in
this post and I said this:
You may consider my view is nothing but bovine feces, which is perfectly alright.
This was in response to Ravi. As anyone can see, I am talking about how my words may be viewed, not any other member's words.
I am still reeling with the fact Happy was reprimanded based on a few anonymous complaints, most likely from a single person carrying a vendetta, yet people like Raju who tell bold faced lies about me, happily go about posting.
Now, it is my turn to dig up some history and show what a hypocrite this Raju is. Many moons ago we were arguing about SV. I cited some verses from Dhivya Prabhandam, something the SVs venerate as the essence of all Vedas, and the commentaries of those verses by some early Acharyas -- these commentaries are also venerated as treatises that extracted the hidden meanings from the pithy but pregnant poems, and showed how blatantly the SVs including revered SV Acharyas are continuing to flout some of the important teachings of Azhvars and early Acharyas. This same Raju promised he will answer this charge, but yet to do so in a straight forward way. The smell of bovine feces is sweet fragrance compared to the smell of this hypocrisy.
Alright, I will stop here and put the gloves back on. It is not as though I cannot be harsh in my posts, just that we need to be able to get along even as we disagree. I don't like to put people in a spot, I don't like calling them hypocrites and such. I apologize having done it, but I hope you will agree that my hand was forced with this repeated pestering and peddling of lies.
One more reason for the harshness is a few weeks back this same Raju misquoted me to make me look bad. I gave him the benefit of doubt that it may have been unintended mistake and allowed him to correct the error.
Cheers!
p.s.
There are some really fine long-distance truck drivers in the U.S. Some years ago when my daughter met with a serious accident it was one of those truck-drivers who helped her and took her to a hospital. I am proud to be with those truck drivers than rank hypocrites.