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Kabali:

I live in the US for the past 8 years. I dont see any racial discrimination as rampant as the caste discrimination which Dalits face in India.

Where do you live - in a diocese? I cannot believe that you are not aware of rampant racial discrimination in the US, unless you are the type who has never left the cozy 'shores' of california, especially Bay Area, where other Indians congregate, and never ventured out to the other parts of the US (except possibly as a tourist). Have you as a nonwhite tried living in Mississippi, Georgia, rural parts of Texas, Louisiana, etc?

Not long ago, there was a program in Opera Winfrey show about a small town in the mid-west (I forget which state), which still practices physical segregation. There is a river that divides the black community from the white community. No black ever ventures into the white part, and is not welcomed to do so. They have been living that way for centuries and show no sign of changing.

Another Opera Winfrey show more recently addressed the rampant pornography addiction among church goers in the US (over 40% of church goers being addicted to porno), with many church pastors being involved heavily in pornography websites, and endorsing it.
 
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Which parts of my writing did you NOT understand? It seems that you are in such hurry to reply, that you don't give a thorough reading to other people's posting. I have clearly stated, time and time again, that racial discrimination IS still rampant in the US, especially in the more pious christian areas. I am now convinced that you are a converted christian yourself; either that, or you are filled with so much blind hatred for Brahmins that you e willing to support christian underhandness and hypocricy just for spite. Well, good luck with your mission! But know this much, that there are many others who are NOT fools!

By the way, have you bothered to go through the website I recommended for your edification. Here it is, one more time.

http://www.christianaggression.org/

Go through it at your leisure. I'm sorry if those articles will make you uncomfortable, and squirm with embarrassment, at the fact that christianity's devious ways have been totally exposed. it may anger and sadden you to know that Indians in India will no longer remain fools, and will begin to see the light as many of us in the west have already seen.

By the way, there is a wonderfully illuminating documentary being shown in BBC: Sex Crimes and the Vatican. The entire documentary is about the sex scandals rocking the churches in the US, in which the vatican has been involved. It is very painful to watch it, let alone here how these priests preyed on children. Here is the synposis of the documentary:



Mr.Aditya i dont like engaging in personal attacks. For your information i am a brahmin but not a blind brahmin like others.

If you say there exists racial discrimination in christianity then it does not become a great evidence. . Can you bring in evidence from Washingtonpost, The Hindu etc., Organizer is not at all a secular mag. Every one knows it is just a RSS mouth piece and no one can expect a unbiased opinion from that.

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What we are discussing is christianity has refined itself to a great extent that it does not discriminate any one based on colour. There are lots of christian priests from dalit community. Whatever you can quote is not from secular and unbiased media. Hinduism at least in India has been softened by the pacifist nature of christian ideals. The caste hinuds have atleast curtailed or trying to curtail their obnoxious and misanthropic practices on the downtordden because of the fear of conversion. This is an undeniable fact.
if not for christianity in India the dalits would be still facing the iron age type of discrimination. Thanks to christianity the dalits have atleast some hope now.
 
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Who is he to ask them to leave?

kabali said:
I think there is nothing wrong in what he said if he supposedly said it. But the main greviance i have with the pseudo-secularist MK is he does not have the temerity to question Islam on this issue.

But the question we are talking here is about chasing people having non Tamil names. I dont think MK said anything like that.

Who is he to interfere in temple activities? Is he a dharmaguru? dharma karta? Shastri? is he an authority on rituals? or vedas? does he call himself a hindu atleast?
After all he is a hypocrite who calls himself an atheist ( but does all the rituals secretly) and a coward to leave the other religions out.
After all he is not even a bhakta to talk about temples.
And think you are also not authoritative( are you any one of the above?)(not money power and muscle power) enough to change the already existing rituals. So I would ignore your statement "I think there is nothing wrong in what he said if he supposedly said it."
I have no one else to blame but ourselves.... we do not have any cohesion... we do not co-operate....can you imagine questioning the rituals in any other religion? may be this is kali yuga... and adharma finally takes over.
 
I am eager to know the misdemeanours. Please provide more info.

kabali said:
Mr.Aditya i dont like engaging in personal attacks. For your information i am a brahmin but not a blind brahmin like others.

If you say there exists racial discrimination in christianity then it does not become a great evidence. . Can you bring in evidence from Washingtonpost, The Hindu etc., Organizer is not at all a secular mag. Every one knows it is just a RSS mouth piece and no one can expect a unbiased opinion from that.

For your kind information we are not dealing here with sexual misdemeanors of priests if you want i can quote the sexual misdemanours of our current kanchi shankaracharyas. I can quote it from even times of inida. The topic is not that.

What we are discussing is christianity has refined itself to a great extent that it does not discriminate any one based on colour. There are lots of christian priests from dalit community. Whatever you can quote is not from secular and unbiased media. Hinduism at least in India has been softened by the pacifist nature of christian ideals. The caste hinuds have atleast curtailed or trying to curtail their obnoxious and misanthropic practices on the downtordden because of the fear of conversion. This is an undeniable fact.
if not for christianity in India the dalits would be still facing the iron age type of discrimination. Thanks to christianity the dalits have atleast some hope now.

"For your kind information we are not dealing here with sexual misdemeanors of priests if you want i can quote the sexual misdemanours of our current kanchi shankaracharyas. I can quote it from even times of inida. The topic is not that."
This is with reference to this one sentence... can you please give more info on what they have done?
I"f you say there exists racial discrimination in christianity then it does not become a great evidence. . Can you bring in evidence from Washingtonpost, The Hindu etc., Organizer is not at all a secular mag. Every one knows it is just a RSS mouth piece and no one can expect a unbiased opinion from that".

I am not sure about the washington post, as I dont live in the US ( I never travelled) but you call hindu secular? Are you in stone age or what? I am curious to know if you are talking about the 1947 edition when India got freedom. Because the hindu of the current day is anti hindu....ooooooo..sorry my apologies....I totally forgot that in India anti hinduism is secularism...sorry again ( I am just being sarcasic).
 
kabali said:
For your information i am a brahmin but not a blind brahmin like others.
From your writings, it seems you are more blind than most hindus in general. You persist in making a very strong case for christianity, even when evidence from all around the world against christianity and its misdeeds is overwhelming. That itself is very curious.

Paragraph deleted by Ramki as it does not confirm to fourm rules.

I have come across too many converted christians, posing as hindus, jews, buddhists, and pagans, hacking into various non-christian forums to sing praises of christianity, in attempt to sow discontent among people in these religions. Unfortunately, their tactics never works, because they end up revealing themselves withinin two or three postings, when they start to make even the most absurd claims on christianity and totally dismissing even the most legitimate evidences against christianity presented by secularists in the west.

Many of the articles from Christianaggression.org are from compiled from various newspaper sources around the world. You could pick and choose them according to your rating on their secularity, but curiously enough you have chosen not to do so.

The articles that I posted previously in the forum (about the sex allegations and dalit discrimination by christianity) are from foreign and Indian media. You say you place greater faith in The Hindu and other newspapers, and don't place faith in the Organizer because it is, according to you, a "RSS mouthpiece." But, The Hindu is also not secular, it is highly anti-hindu.

Would Oprah Winfrey in your opinion be a hindu mouthpiece, because she regularly discusses racial discrimination and other social problems that plague the US society. Would BBC be also considered as a RSS mouthpiece, in your opinion, because the entire program exposing centuries of sexual exploitation by the catholic church around the world has been captured by the BBC? Is LA Times also Hindu mouthpiece?

By the bye, how legitimate are your sources on the Acharya's case? You have cited nothing other than rumours and propaganda BS from anti-brahmin war-mongers, or anti-hindu christian organizations.

I propose from now to keep posting from various sources (western and 'secular' Indian media) regular 'gospel' from the christian world, not only as a reminder to you, Mr. Kabali, but to educate many others in this forum, particularly those living in India who might not have access to the truth, because of the tendency of the Indian popular media to suppress any news related to christianity's deception.

Here's another article, by your favourite, secular Washington Post. Cherish it!


Vatican Recognizes Rape Report : Washington Post

VATICAN CITY -- The Vatican yesterday acknowledged a report that some priests and missionaries were forcing nuns to have sex with them, and in some cases forcing their rape victims to have abortions.

Some nuns were also forced to take oral contraceptives, the report cited in the newspaper La Repubblica said.

The Vatican said the issue was restricted to a certain geographic area, but the report cited cases in 23 countries, including the United States, Brazil, the Philippines, India, Ireland and Italy.

Although the Vatican did not name the area, the report said most incidents of sexual abuse against nuns occurred in Africa, where the nuns were identified as "safe" at a time when AIDS is devastating the continent.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?p...0¬Found=true
 
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SIR- I am a brahmin and a BLIND Brahmin (according to Mr. Kapali).'The Hindu' is certainly not an authority on any matter as kabali says. it s a pall bearer of the periars pornos. all religions in the world EXCECPT HINDUISM ARE FASCIST Religions. do u know why? because these fascist religions emphasis on ONE GOD. so they breed intolerance, violence and fascism directly and indirectly by saying that apart from our god all other god are false.. except hinduism and may be jainism, no religion emphasis on vegeteranism. because most the followers of these religions were already non veggies. to retain their support the founders of these religions totally shut their mouth to the evils of non vegeteranism. hinduism lays emphasis on quality non quantity. so it brands non veggies (even if they are brahmins) as untouchables. but other religions desperately search quantity. they ignore quality and allow their subject to eat anything - from rat to rabbit & from cats to chameleons.

Kabali and all other pseudo secularists please read THE WORLD OF FATWAS by Dr.arun shourie & all other books by dr. arun shourie. atleast you can read the review of dr. shourie's books on the net. or else visit
arunshourie.voiceofdharma.com/hindutva.htm.
------------------------------------------------Please stop believing papers like THE HINDU. its the english vomit of Murasoli.
I repeat once again that any religion which emphasises on ONE GOD leads to fascism because when you say that there can be only one god you imply that you are intolerant to any other form of worship. this breeds hatred and violence. the main reason why hinduism scores over all other religions is because it does not at all believe in oneness of god. even among brahmins there are two major denominations- saiva, vaishanva . these two groups have totally 2 different gods. shiva for saiva and vishnu for narayana. in other religions even though there are many different sects, all these sects have the same god. but in religion different sects have different gods! there is so much variety. there is so much tolerance. there is very little room for violence, fascism like in other religions.
 
SIR - EVKS Elangovan minister in the sonia maina govt. is flirting all over india boasting that he is the 'grandson' of the periar. did the periar have any son or daughter? or did he adopt any? from where did this grandson come wihout any son or daughter
 
I request the admin and the moderators to remove Kabali's postings from the site. Please, do not allow any more postings from him unless he identifies himself to you and you are satisfied about his brahmin credentials he claims to possess.

I trust that this forum is not to be used to denigrate brahmins.

I thank Sri Aditya for his enlightened approach.

Thanks.
 
]SIR - The dmk govt. of Mr. karunanidhi imposed tamil compulsorily in orthodox sanskrit temples a few years back. karunanidhi retorted that gods who do not undrstand tamil have no place in t.nadu I think DMK is getting confused betwen hinduism and other religions.in hinduism there is no concept of the fascist ideology of one god like other religions. . hinduism is a combination of many religions. there are so many sects having differrent gods. if Mr.karunanidhi has so much admiration for islam, let him convert to islam and become a mullah in mount road mosque. but to impose islamic practices in hindu temples is like asking a cricketer to play cricket with football! in saiva temples all over t.nadu only tamil is used . only in vaishnava temples, sanskrit is given preference. vaishnava temples follow brahmin customs and so this practice.DMK, the self styled custodian and champion of worldwide tamils thinks all temples in t.nadu should use tamil only.but in a religion where there is no room for the discredited one god ideology how can this happen? the dmk policy of one caste, one god is a fascist idea. there is not need for uniformity in various religions.in case it cannot be imposed. each and every religions has its own custom on various matters due to various reasons. to impose the custom of one religion on another on the foolish pretext of enforcing equality is like asking a mullah to become a head of a church and preach buddhism!! you need not accept or even respect the customs of religions. but you HAVE TO BE TOLERANT to your opposite views. intolerant bigots like DMK have no place in modern indian public life.
 
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aditya said:
From your writings, it seems you are more blind than most hindus in general. You persist in making a very strong case for christianity, even when evidence from all around the world against christianity and its misdeeds is overwhelming. That itself is very curious. I can only go by what you write - for all one knows, you might really be a brahmin doing sandhyavandam every morning. But I doubt it.

I have come across too many converted christians, posing as hindus, jews, buddhists, and pagans, hacking into various non-christian forums to sing praises of christianity, in attempt to sow discontent among people in these religions. Unfortunately, their tactics never works, because they end up revealing themselves withinin two or three postings, when they start to make even the most absurd claims on christianity and totally dismissing even the most legitimate evidences against christianity presented by secularists in the west.

Many of the articles from Christianaggression.org are from compiled from various newspaper sources around the world. You could pick and choose them according to your rating on their secularity, but curiously enough you have chosen not to do so.

The articles that I posted previously in the forum (about the sex allegations and dalit discrimination by christianity) are from foreign and Indian media. You say you place greater faith in The Hindu and other newspapers, and don't place faith in the Organizer because it is, according to you, a "RSS mouthpiece." But, The Hindu is also not secular, it is highly anti-hindu.

Would Oprah Winfrey in your opinion be a hindu mouthpiece, because she regularly discusses racial discrimination and other social problems that plague the US society. Would BBC be also considered as a RSS mouthpiece, in your opinion, because the entire program exposing centuries of sexual exploitation by the catholic church around the world has been captured by the BBC? Is LA Times also Hindu mouthpiece?

By the bye, how legitimate are your sources on the Acharya's case? You have cited nothing other than rumours and propaganda BS from anti-brahmin war-mongers, or anti-hindu christian organizations.

I propose from now to keep posting from various sources (western and 'secular' Indian media) regular 'gospel' from the christian world, not only as a reminder to you, Mr. Kabali, but to educate many others in this forum, particularly those living in India who might not have access to the truth, because of the tendency of the Indian popular media to suppress any news related to christianity's deception.

Here's another article, by your favourite, secular Washington Post. Cherish it!

Time and again i am saying we are not dealing with sexual misbehaviours. It like when we are dealing with facial features of a monkey you are talking about the lice in the hair of its tail.

Why dont you for a change concentrate on the atrocities committed by christianity on Dalits. I will also provide articles on the atrocities committed by caste Hindus on Dalits. As an agreement we should not quote any thing from RSS mouth piece or from christian sources.
This is the real topic at hand and this is what decides how humane a religion is.

What you are doing right now is deviating the topic and trying to compare apples to oranges.
 
That is ridiculous

kabali said:
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The shankaracharyar of sringeri had said that he does not mind getting arrested in the untouchable discrimination case but he will not mingle with the dalits as the sashtras ,according to him, says like that. Please discuss on the pertinent topic rather than deviating and bringing in unwanted topic.
Who is that celebrity? Lot of people can say lot of things. Kumudam and Vikatan are not vedas. they belong to the category of "manjal patrikai". Its even a sin to think bad about the acharyas. Pay money to a celebrity..they can even sell their souls. You should be out of this planet to believe something reported by vikatan and kumudam as though they are satya pramanam or something.
 
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I do not want to name anyone. But we will not allow unsubstantiated allegations to be posted. Also this forum is open to all irrespective of their caste or community.

Any posting violating the forum rules will be summarily deleted and the member warned not to post such things in future. Repeat offenders will be banned from posting any messages.

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Thanks for all your co-operation.

Ramki
 
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kudumi said:
Who is that celebrity? Lot of people can say lot of things. Kumudam and Vikatan are not vedas. they belong to the category of "manjal patrikai". Its even a sin to think bad about the acharyas. Pay money to a celebrity..they can even sell their souls. You should be out of this planet to believe something reported by vikatan and kumudam as though they are satya pramanam or something.

From outlookindia.com article hosted in counter currents.org. Hope outlookinida is not a yellow magazine.

http://www.countercurrents.org/anand091204.htm

'If You Cooperate, I Can Extend
You All Benefits'
By Anuradha Ramanan
Personal Account of a Tamil journalist against whom Shankaracharya Jayendra Saraswati made indecent advances

It was 1992. I had quit as editor of the Tamil magazine Shubamangala, and was editing another magazine, Valaiosai, which was not doing too well. It was at that point that I received a message from Shankaracharya Jayendra Saraswati suggesting that I edit a new spiritual magazine the math was planning to launch. I come from a family which holds the Kanchi math, especially Paramacharya Chandrasekharendra Saraswati, in high regard. My father felt this was an invitation from god. I readily agreed. A woman was deputed by the math to facilitate my meeting with Jayendra Saraswati.
During the first meeting, Jayendra Saraswati suggested that the new spiritual magazine be called 'Amma' and discussed its concept. There were to be further meetings which happened during the afternoon hours after the bhaktas completed their darshan. At these brainstorming sessions, there would be only three people in the room—Jayendra Saraswati, myself and the woman who mediated between us. This woman would fetch me in a car from Chennai and escort me to Kanchipuram.
The first four meetings were professional. During the fifth meeting, diverting from spirituality, Jayendra Saraswati started speaking vulgarly to my escort. Till then, I had been taking notes with my head bent. When I looked up I was shocked by the sight of her and the seer in close physical contact. I felt a storm had hit me. He then spoke in a lustful manner to me and expressed a desire for similar intimacy with me. I stood up, more shocked, and raised my voice and asked him, "Are you human?" To this Jayendra Saraswati did not offer a reply, instead he enquired of my escort: "As you usually do, didn't you tell this woman in advance about this?" The woman said no. Then the Shankaracharya pulled her up using abusive language.
I wanted to leave. But my escort physically tried to stop me. Jayendra Saraswati addressed me again: "Look, if you cooperate, I can extend you all kinds of benefits. This is my place. If you, who have lost your husband, can sport kumkum and be well-dressed, what's wrong if I desire you? If you talk about this incident outside the math, I will spread stories about your lack of character."
I rushed back home in a bus. I did not tell anyone about the incident. But I could not sleep. The next day the woman who had escorted me to the math and her husband came drunk to my home and they attacked me physically and verbally. I shared my grief with a woman police officer friend of mine. She asked me for a written complaint, but I desisted saying the math, and Hinduism as such, will suffer a loss of face. At that point I suffered a paralytic attack on my left leg. I even lost part of my speech because of the shock. It took me a year to recover. I continue to receive threats from Jayendra Saraswati and also offers of compromise.
I am often asked why I am bringing up all this now. I am not sharing my anguish and shock to strengthen the other cases against the Shankaracharya. Nor am I planning to make a formal police complaint. When Tamil magazines to which I had often contributed started associating my name wrongly with Jayendra Saraswati, I felt the need to set the record straight.
And this is not the first time I have tried to state the facts. In 1993, I was writing a weekly column, 'Speaking the Truth', for Dinamalar, the Tamil daily. After running 27 columns, they refused to publish my 28th since I had mentioned the Shankaracharya episode. The paper was under pressure from the math. At that point our society was not willing to believe what I was saying. I am sure several women have had similar harrowing experiences like I did at the math.
Yes, I am a Brahmin. But what happened between me and the Shankaracharya is an issue between a man and woman. I am a woman. He is a man. There are those who say that any attack on Jayendra Saraswati is an attack on Hinduism.
That's rubbish. Even Veerappan was a Hindu. The problem is we have some expectations of a mathadipathi (head of a math), but Jayendra Saraswati does not live up to those expectations. He is an ordinary man with the needs and desires of any ordinary man. As a writer, I move in several circles. At a party, I know how to be on guard and protect myself from potential harassment. But when such a propositioning happens in a math and is made by the mathadipathi, it leaves one shocked and confused.
 
From outlookindia.com article:

http://www.countercurrents.org/anand091204.htm

http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fname=Cover Story (F)&fodname=20041213&sid=1

Enquiries by Outlook at the math revealed that till very recently Vijayendra Saraswati and his brother Raghu used to visit the hostel and spend time there on the pretext of teaching slokas to the girls. "They were regular visitors. But they have not come here for three months," says a security guard. They would stay in AC rooms and watch TV.Surprisingly, a hostel meant for poor girls has two air-conditioned rooms
 
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Dear Sri Silverfox,

I had enough of this venomous attack of this person by name Kabali who is indulging in slander of our revered Gurus basing himself on anti-Hindu, anti-Brahmin and anti-Acharyal sources day in and day out.

I have tried to bring this to the attention of the moderators/admin in this forum without any relief. This forum has become a place to denounce Hindus and their revered Gurus. People like me have no place here.

Thanks for those good times.
 
haste is not good!

Dear Mr Anbu

If indeed Mr Kabali is trying to disrupt the smooth functioning of this website, as some members have suggested, dont u think u are only falling for the trap by making a decision to quit....pls stay on... I am sure the administrators of this website will find a solution soon

Regards
 
Dear Kabali Ji,

Why are you so intent on splashing before us yesterday's old unsubstantiated stories? After having the intent to put HHJS behind the bars for a very long time and even with the coercive tactics they can employ, The Police HAVE NOT FILED ANY CHARGES IN THE COURT at all with respect to the dastardly things you are posting. This too after a special investigative unit that was formed with a 'Lady' officer at helm to probe in to these types of allegations.

Please, if you want to argue, do that on the basis of facts, not allegations. If you are going to allege that Pope has killed some one, you better have a smoking gun!

Pranams,
KRS
 
Anand and Outlook both are anti hindu.brahmin.

kabali said:
From outlookindia.com article:

http://www.countercurrents.org/anand091204.htm

http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fname=Cover%20Story%20(F)&fodname=20041213&sid=1

Enquiries by Outlook at the math revealed that till very recently Vijayendra Saraswati and his brother Raghu used to visit the hostel and spend time there on the pretext of teaching slokas to the girls. "They were regular visitors. But they have not come here for three months," says a security guard. They would stay in AC rooms and watch TV.Surprisingly, a hostel meant for poor girls has two air-conditioned rooms

Now I understand the problem..you are someone who believes in whatever is written....for your info there are lots of websites on free energy, alien invasion stuff like that...and you know some thing....did you read the news about a kaakka flying a helicopter? It is reported by currentcounter.org. :-))))) man...your posts are are a great fun.
 
Dear Sri Iyengar,

Thanks for your response. I will be back if the administrators of this website take a firm stand that this website will not be allowed to preach hatred on Hindus and their revered Gurus. Everything has a limit including free speech. As far as I am concerned I am particular whose company I keep.

With Narayanasmrithi,
Anbu
 
kudumi said:
Now I understand the problem..you are someone who believes in whatever is written....for your info there are lots of websites on free energy, alien invasion stuff like that...and you know some thing....did you read the news about a kaakka flying a helicopter? It is reported by currentcounter.org. :-))))) man...your posts are are a great fun.

Yes, there are many websites writes stories but what i have quoted is from Outlook India the best cirulated magazine in India. Also smt.Anuradha ramanan had written about these things way back in 1993 in Dinamalar a brahmin run newspaper with 2nd or 3rd largest cirulcation in TN.

If you dont want to believe it then even if i quote it from vedas then also you would not believe it.

I pity that there are people who are soooooooooo biased just because the guilty or the accused happens to be a brahmin.

When people can highly appreciate quotes from organiser and christianaggresion.org why not from reputed magazines like outlook india and dinamalar?
 
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when the moderator says people should not post unsubstantiated stuff then why did he not remove the posting when one of the forumers said Kumadam and vikatan is a yellow magazine. Did that forumer put any substantiated proof on that?
 
Kabali

Did Anuradha Ramanan write about this in Dinamalar in 1993 ? She claims she wanted to write about this but was not allowed by Dinamalar management.

Now let us look at this issue impartially. First of all, I am not sure why this lady kept quite for 12 long years. That too a lady who champions women's rights in her stories.

Coming to her allegations, if they were true why did she attend the function
of the Kanchi Kamakoti Seva Trust Hospital anniversary ? Not only did she attend but she was the chief guest. According to those who attended the meeting she said this about the acharya

"‘I was paralysed and bed ridden and could not walk. It was the anugraham of the Kanchi Sankara Madam and blessings of Sri Acharya that I was completely cured. I came today to express this especially to you all"


For your reading pleasure here is a copy of the invite
http://www.kanchi-sathya.org/invitationcopy_anuradha.htm

Any normal person, forget a writer, who has been wronged would at the least, stay away from those who tormented her.

Going further into her story, she also claims that the Acharya wrote a personal apology letter. She could have held onto the letter and there was the clinching proof she needed. All she needed to do was take the letter to the police and file a complaint. At the least she could have called all her media friends and got it published.

Reading these I feel deja vu all over again. This is similar to the ISRO spy case story the Kerala police and the press concocted. Very reputable dailies like Malayala Manorama, Indian Express etc published sensational stories on the so called illicit relations between the scientists and the Maldivian women. The CBI concluded that all these were bogus and so did the Supreme Court. The lives of scientists, their families got ruined. The so called respected newspapers did not even publish an apology.

Here is a link on the infamous episode and how the press & police behaved
http://www.rediff.com/news/1998/may/08isro.htm

If you want to see yet another case of how reputed neswpapers publish unsubstantiated stories and ruin peoples lives here is another
http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2004/stories/20030228003303800.htm

Just because a so called reputed newspaper publishes something, it does not become true. Trial by media is cruel and in most cases hangs the innocent.

Oh, before I finish, not even BBC is above publishing slanderous material. Vinod Mehta (another so called reputed journalist) who writes regularly in Outlook, spoke on a BBC radio program on the Sankarraman murder case and as usual made a lot of defamatory statements. A section of Kanchi devotees took up the issue with BBC and legally pursued the matter. BBC editors investigated the issue and held that indeed there were errors and misleading statements and removed the offending speech. BBC paid most of the legal costs and seetled the issue.
Here is the link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4407476.stm

I am reminded of the Tamil saying,
"Kannal Parpathum Poi. Kathal Ketpathum Poi. Theera Visarithu arivathey Mei".

Ramki











kabali said:
Yes, there are many websites writes stories but what i have quoted is from Outlook India the best cirulated magazine in India. Also smt.Anuradha ramanan had written about these things way back in 1993 in Dinamalar a brahmin run newspaper with 2nd or 3rd largest cirulcation in TN.

If you dont want to believe it then even if i quote it from vedas then also you would not believe it.

I pity that there are people who are soooooooooo biased just because the guilty or the accused happens to be a brahmin.

When people can highly appreciate quotes from organiser and christianaggresion.org why not from reputed magazines like outlook india and dinamalar?
 
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SIR How do the editors of kumudam, vikatan, outlook know so certainly that kanchi acharya indulged in sexapades? where the editors of these journals present with him physically when he was indulging in sexual acts? if yes thenhave they changed their profession from journalism to something else? will they have the courage to write about sexual leelas of DK,DMK or politicians of other political parties? far as anuradha ramana is concerned she s a soft porn writer who cannot be taken seriously.

Mr. karunanidhi says that tamil archanas will be compulsorily imposed in t.nadu. will he have the courage to say that idols should be displayed in mosques? M.karunanidhi dances and demonstrates like a demonous disco shanthi when talking about hinduism. but why does his entire system shuts down without saying anything about islam or christianity?
 
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Hi Anbu

In this forum we do not tolerate people preaching hatred against Hindus or any other religion for that matter.

I think Kabali wrongly believes what is written by outlook/hindu/kumudam etc as Vedhas. By being in this forum we have a chance to correct his perceptions. At the least we can make him see that his perceptions might be wrong. If we quit, we lose doing that.

So my request would be for you to stay on this forum and continue your wonderful postings.

Be rest assured that we will definitely delete any postings that we deem as offensive.

Thanks
Ramki
Anbu said:
Dear Sri Iyengar,

Thanks for your response. I will be back if the administrators of this website take a firm stand that this website will not be allowed to preach hatred on Hindus and their revered Gurus. Everything has a limit including free speech. As far as I am concerned I am particular whose company I keep.

With Narayanasmrithi,
Anbu
 
kabali said:
When people can highly appreciate quotes from organiser and christianaggresion.org why not from reputed magazines like outlook india and dinamalar?

The christianaggression.org is not a journal - it is a website which compiles articles from various newspapers and journals from India and elsewhere, on christianity's misdeeds not only in India but in other parts of the world. The articles I posted here, from that website, were originally published in Los Angeles Times, Times of India, Washington Post, and BBC. I have always provided the names of the original sources.

I don't know whether you would consider the above papers as RSS-backed, but as for as I know, no one else does. The purpose of that particular website, by the way, is not to preach hate against christianity, but to inform and educate people on the atrocities commited by christian institutions in the name of religion, against all other faiths, with an intention of world domination. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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