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Hinduism Vs Rest

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SIR -Kalanidhi maran is reported to be the 20th richest indian inthe country. but the karunanidhi family r still claiming that they belong to the 'most backward community'!! for how many more years are they going to fool the world?
 
SIR - Black poet vairamuthu,who spends more time with the karunanidhi than his own wife, always boasts about the greatness of tamil in his songs and speeches. but he has admitted his sons in english medium institutions and that too in australia!! look at the double standards of this poisonous preacher of tamil.
 
SIR - Wishing you all a very happy karthigai!! let us all pray to Lord karthikeya that atleast by pongal 2007 there be a new, functioning govt. in t.nadu and india,with a cultured chief minister in t.nadu and a civilised prime minister in india.
 
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SIR - A former censor official the discredited gnana. rajasekaran is making a film called 'PERIAR' glorifying Romsomy Periar. the rajasekaran had already made a film on bharathiyar in which the mahakavi was highly defamed. The t.nadu gvt of Mr. Karunanidhi Muttuvelan has already bribed the rajasekaran by giving him 95 lakhs out of tax payers money, to ensure that negative references about the karunanidhi and the periar are not highlighted in the film. The Satyaraj, father of flop hero, the sibirasa is playing the periar. Thangarbacha, who abused actresses as prostitutes is cinematographer. Kushboo , who abused women who emphasis on chastity is playing mother(?) Maniyamma.

The Kamalahaasa is said to be making a film called Dasavatharam abusing brahmins and hinduism. The kamalahaasa always relies on vulgarity & violence. some how he manages to get his films certified. is the kamalahaasa bribing censors?

all of our members please go to [email protected] regularly and record your view, register your protests about film potraying brahmins and/or hindus in an offensive manner. i have already e-mailed the censors to be vigilant while certifying the forthcoming 2 uncivilised and barbaric films - periar & dasavatharam
 
SIR - The DMK chief minister of t.nadu is misusing tax payers money and pasting his photos on posters, banners, advertisements ,all sorts of state govt. ID. Cards etc., He is inscribing his own views on various matters all over govt.buses in state. even the thirkkural has been blacked out! supporters of The Dr.Karunanidhi r even saying that it was because of him that the thirukkural became famous! poor thiruvalluvar!! may his soul rest in peace!!!
 
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[SIR - I strongly condemn DMK/DK/PMK goons for registering in our website with fake names and sending porn photos. may be this is what romsomy 'periar' taught them!!
 
SIR- I do not consider any legal job below the dignity of any person of any caste r religion. but there are many jobs like rickshaw pulling, scavenging, carpentry which do not require any educational qualification at all. these are all skilled jobs which can be mastered by anybody after some experience. to ask a brahmin who has finished schooling, college to do these type of jobs is uncivilised and barbaric. it s easy to lecture rhetoric that no job is inferior. but at ask qualified persons to do jobs which do not require any basic educational qualification is the extreme case of sadism.

in north india brahmins form a higher percent, but in t.nadu they form a very relatively low percent. to instigate t.nadu brhmins to copy violent ways of their north indian counterparts is dangerous. pls. do not do this.

The kalanidhi maran, who has been declared the 20th richest indian, is 'most backward' as per the DMK Govt. but a poor, brahmin temple priest earning only 500/- per month is 'forward'! this is the discovery of "intellectual genius" the DMK!!
 
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SIR- I strongly suspect the ugly hand of the DMK / nara.ram combine behind porn photos in our websites - though silverfox feels otherwise. Mudslinging his rivals through dubious, uncivilized , barbaric third degree methods is a favourite pastime of the nara. ram and the DMK. The nara.ram and the DMK must understand that throttling democracy through these sort of methods will eventually boomerang on them! our members should not get disheartened by these sort of poison, pollution perpetuated by the DMKi / nara.ram group. though i do not have any proof or evidence i am still suspicious. even if it is found out that the persons who have did this are someone else, i would still have the doubt that the DMK and the nara.ram must have instigated these guys from behind!
 
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Hinduism vs rest-Reply thread

Dear Mr.N.Suresh,

I think you started this posting and I could see, out of 14 pages of writing on this post, you wrote 13.99 pages yourself . Notice this another interesting point of yours is that you imagine something and then believe that as truth and unhesitantly, thrust the same on to all of us. Please tell us what is your point and not name every persons and leave others to take part in to the discussion. Well if anything worthwhile emerge, let our community take the benefit out of this point. Sometime name may be also required as part of a point; but a kind of self restraint in our language will always help the forum and its cause. A CM is representing all of Tamil Nadu. So do a publisher or anybody popular. Mind our community is second to none while showing respect to others. On the one hand you abuse in no uncertain strong words, then you also say you have no proof , but continue your abusees. What is it you really want to achieve Mr.Suresh. Do you really want to inculcate violence to our gen-next and make them irresponsible? I feel it is not from somebody outside all this disruptions, be it a xxx clippings or the mind washing work, is being done. Some outsider among us is the real reason.

GURUMURTHYJI
 
[SIR - A statue of periar romsomy has been damaged at srirangam. its not clear at this stage who did it. of course its easy to say that DMK/DK/PMK vandals would have done this deliberately to instigate hatred against brahmins. but i think some anti socials would have done this wantonly to increase the tension in t.nadu and exploit the situation. The DMK govt. of the M.Karunanidhi is trying to install a statue of the periar romsomy in Srirangam near Sri Ranganathar temple. This has quite correctly been opposed by devotees. this surcharged atmosphere has been exploited by anti socials and by damaging the periar's statue they probably hope the situation will become more tense. It is important that police and authorities in t.nadu ensure that DMK/DK./PMK vandals do not use this incident as an excuse to instigate violence against brahmins in t.nadu. the ageing chief minister of t.nadu, M.Karunanidhi cannot be expected to take quick decisions correctly to defuse the situation. The Police and authorities have to act impartially also.
 
SIR - Some devotees are opposing the move by the DMK govt. of M. Karunanidhi to install a statute of periar romsomy near srirangam Sri Ranganathar temple. Of course srirangam is known as Bhoologa Vaikuntam. so what? if our chief minster thinks even vaikuntam can be easily converted into paralogam in a few seconds! look at the greatness of the C.M. Of t.nadu, Mr. Karunanidhi!has he said that the idol of Ranganathar should be removed and the perair's idol be installed instead? No! then why this opposition? rememeber he is a chief minister! and an elderly person also! moreover a non brahmin too! so we should not make fun or criticize him- because we are all brahmins! and brahmins have to respect elders!! so even if karunaniidhi violates law,constitution and villyfies temples just watch silently. if you want to do something, then pen hosannas to karunanidhi and his entire family! that is only way for all to reach heaven!!!
 
Hinduism vs rest-Reply thread

[Sir] I did not see the news paper to-day. But when I opened the cyber site I saw a very important news that really tells us the manthra for Moksham. As the word Sri Rangam appeared my inner voice urged me to read this quickly since the greatest mahaan saint Ramanuja preached the Moksha-manthra to lakhs and lakhs of ordinary people inspite of the curse that if he does so he will go to Naragam.. But this new story is about installation of Periar statue. Periar is now pitted against Sri Ranganathar , and the perpetuator is none other than Mr.Karunanidhi who here is described as an elderly non Brahmin CM.. This is going to happen in Vaikundam which will be then made as Paralogam.

This immediately reminded me of a speech of Sri. Tirukoilur Sundharam, once I listened. Sri.Thirukovilur Sundharam had a good Christian friend who always posed questions criticizing Hindus. One day he asked him where is your Vaikundam. Promptly came the reply from Sundharam that he has to first climb up to Paralogam and then he can see the Vaikundam from there. So I am greatly relieved now. Whatever happens in Sri Rangam, nothing can stop us from going to Vaikundam as we are all capable of climbing up….up…..and reach. Mr. Suresh will soon give us some better stories.

GURUMURTHYJI
 
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AMEN :))

[Sir] I did not see the news paper to-day. But when I opened the cyber site I saw a very important news that really tells us the manthra for Moksham. As the word Sri Rangam appeared my inner voice urged me to read this quickly since the greatest mahaan saint Ramanuja preached the Moksha-manthra to lakhs and lakhs of ordinary people inspite of the curse that if he does so he will go to Naragam.. But this new story is about installation of Periar statue. Periar is now pitted against Sri Ranganathar , and the perpetuator is none other than Mr.Karunanidhi who here is described as an elderly non Brahmin CM.. This is going to happen in Vaikundam which will be then made as Paralogam.

This immediately reminded me of a speech of Sri. Tirukoilur Sundharam, once I listened. Sri.Thirukovilur Sundharam had a good Christian friend who always posed questions criticizing Hindus. One day he asked him where is your Vaikundam. Promptly came the reply from Sundharam that he has to first climb up to Paralogam and then he can see the Vaikundam from there. So I am greatly relieved now. Whatever happens in Sri Rangam, nothing can stop us from going to Vaikundam as we are all capable of climbing up….up…..and reach. Mr. Suresh will soon give us some better stories.

GURUMURTHYJI
 
Mr.Suresh, whom do you mean by nara.ram? Is it Mr.N.Ram? Please clarify.
 
Mr.Suresh, Neenga ezhudharedhellam romba 'tamasa' keedhu naina!!! But is it prudent to attack a reigning Chief Minister like this? We know to what degree a reigning CM can harass persons who earn his/her wrath from what happened to the Kanchi Acharyas when the arrogant and ruthless Jayalalitha was the CM. The same things can happen to you if you are a resident of T.N. or even India because our Italian Mataji dances to the tune of M.K. So, please be careful. I too was affected by the anti-Brahmin policies of the DMK during the late sixties and early seventies. But the reason why I don't attack him is the fear of getting into trouble because I am a resident of TN.

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Hindu Makkal Katchi Did It

[SIR - A statue of periar romsomy has been damaged at srirangam. its not clear at this stage who did it. of course its easy to say that DMK/DK/PMK vandals would have done this deliberately to instigate hatred against brahmins. but i think some anti socials would have done this wantonly to increase the tension in t.nadu and exploit the situation. The DMK govt. of the M.Karunanidhi is trying to install a statue of the periar romsomy in Srirangam near Sri Ranganathar temple. This has quite correctly been opposed by devotees. this surcharged atmosphere has been exploited by anti socials and by damaging the periar's statue they probably hope the situation will become more tense. It is important that police and authorities in t.nadu ensure that DMK/DK./PMK vandals do not use this incident as an excuse to instigate violence against brahmins in t.nadu. the ageing chief minister of t.nadu, M.Karunanidhi cannot be expected to take quick decisions correctly to defuse the situation. The Police and authorities have to act impartially also.
KAUNDINYA'S REPLY:- It is actually the HINDU MAKKAL KATCHI of COIMBATORE, headed by Sri ARJUN SAMPATH, which damaged the EVR statue. All the 4 or 5 persons who damaged the statue were NON-BRAHMINS from Kovai belonging to the Hindu Makkal Katchi, a splinter group of Hindu Munnani. I have regard for all Hindutvawadis & as such I have regard & admiration for Mr.Arjun Sampath but he should not have done this. Lord Rama's portrait has been beaten with chappals & burnt by the DK people in Sri Rangam as a retaliatory measure. Two idols of Lord Ganesh have been broken in Sankarapuram of Villupuram Dt. The Veda Patasala of the Kanchi Mutt has been vandalised at Salem and small Brahmin boys studying there have been attacked by Periyar DK people. The pictures of Sri Kamakshi Devi, the Paramacharya Sri Chandrasekharendra Saraswati & the present Acharyas have been damaged. Some Brahmins have been beaten up at Erode or elsewhere. Sri Arjun Sampath is a true Hindutvawadi but his overzealousness has resulted in damage to the EVR statue & the consequent attacks on Gods & Brahmins. The CPI fellows have protested at Chennai. Although the CPI talks about "varga porattam" (class struggle), some of them (like Mahendran) spew venom on the Brahmins. But the CPI(M) never abuses the Brahmins.The Brahmins should resolve never to vote for the CPI ("VALADHU COMMUNIST") in any future election.

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I have some questions.

KAUNDINYA'S REPLY:- It is actually the HINDU MAKKAL KATCHI of COIMBATORE, headed by Sri ARJUN SAMPATH, which damaged the EVR statue. All the 4 or 5 persons who damaged the statue were NON-BRAHMINS from Kovai belonging to the Hindu Makkal Katchi, a splinter group of Hindu Munnani. I have regard for all Hindutvawadis & as such I have regard & admiration for Mr.Arjun Sampath but he should not have done this. Lord Rama's portrait has been beaten with chappals & burnt by the DK people in Sri Rangam as a retaliatory measure. Two idols of Lord Ganesh have been broken in Sankarapuram of Villupuram Dt. The Veda Patasala of the Kanchi Mutt has been vandalised at Salem and small Brahmin boys studying there have been attacked by Periyar DK people. The pictures of Sri Kamakshi Devi, the Paramacharya Sri Chandrasekharendra Saraswati & the present Acharyas have been damaged. Some Brahmins have been beaten up at Erode or elsewhere. Sri Arjun Sampath is a true Hindutvawadi but his overzealousness has resulted in damage to the EVR statue & the consequent attacks on Gods & Brahmins. The CPI fellows have protested at Chennai. Although the CPI talks about "varga porattam" (class struggle), some of them (like Mahendran) spew venom on the Brahmins. But the CPI(M) never abuses the Brahmins.The Brahmins should resolve never to vote for the CPI ("VALADHU COMMUNIST") in any future election.

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Dear Kaundinya,

Thanks for your updates on this. I will never believe in any politician. I think BJP might be a safe bet in the current scenario.

Actually, we believe Rama is god, Pillayar is god. And if these guys break the idols, and garland Rama with chappals, I expect the gods themselves to react. I think most of the actions are because there is no sign from the so called gods, when their devotees are sufferring like this. This leads to loss of faith in god. Is god just a concept invented by man? I dont know. Some learned members well versed in scriptures can answer that.

May be we are asking for too much from gods who cant even protect themselves.

Ramki... do not delete this post. I am not an atheist, but my faith in god is getting shaken because of these incidents.
 
One interesting case.

In my MOMs native village, long long ago, they found a statue of a goddess.
Nobody knew what the statue was, until one day, the clay under the statue fell down, and the head of a buffalo was seen. So it was found that the statue is of goddess Durga.
And one night a local guy stole the jewelleries from the statue, and his vision was gone. My mom told me the incident when I was a kid and I thought it is a story to make me eat rice and not to make fun of gods or lift other people's balappam and pencil (lot of pencils and balappams and clips were stolen from me..may be parents know it is the stage during which childern fall in a trap).

But when we went to the village, I did meet the man who lost his vision..and my mom used to tell me he cleans the temple as a prayachittam ( the prayachittam part I cannot confirm).

When the goddess reacts when her jewel is stolen, I dont understand how she is reacting when people wear chappals to the statue of Rama.

And I dont know which part of Sanakarapuram this incident happened. I am from that village, and know that the village folks are not an atheistic bunch. May be the poison has spread even there now. There is a mariyamman koil where ganesh is there, but is well protected by the pujari and his family. If it is with the Ramar koil, I heard it is maintained by an aiyyar, It is very likely this statue is affected.

Kaundinya, I once again thank you personally for posting the update. I will call home, and find out what exactly happened.
 
SIR-YES! when i am saying nara.ram it refers to narasimhan.ram or n. ram editor(?) of THE HINDU and ardent admirer(!) of DMK.

There are thousands of statues of the periar all over tamilnadu.nobody has damaged those statues. why was a periar statue been damaged now? because it has been erected in srirangam at ranganathar temple - a temple considered so holy by hindus they call it 'paradise on earth'. brahmins believe that you should worship at srirangam ranga temple before you are 40 yrs! (actually i worshipped ranga at srirangam in mar.2005 only when i was 38 yrs. i had to be there before 2007 when i reach 40 yrs.!) so i request DMK chief minister M.Karunanidhi to withdraw his approval and respect the sentiments of devotees.

Previously there was a minister called Dr. SathiahTamizhkudimagan in dmk govt of 1996-01. he was a minister of hindu religious affairs. he said that those who opposed tamil archanas in temples will be awarded death penalty! and that year had been declared by the DMK govt. as year of'communal harmony'! just see the irony- a religious minister propagating athesim! that too in a year which had been declared by his own govt as year of communal harmony. But sadly, before those who were opposed to tamil archanas could be awarded death penalty, Mr. Tamizhkudimagan died a sad death about 2 years back.

just like Late. Tamizhkudimagan i think some persons are misleading the DMK chief minister Mr.M. karunanidhi in this statue issue.May Lord Ranga see to it that good sense prevails on Mr. Karunanidhi!
 
SIR -Kalanidhi maran is reported to be the 20th richest indian inthe country. Cannot he sponsor statues of his late father Murasoli Maran anywhere in india? why should parliament be chosen to install this statue? and why out of tax payer money?
 
Maran, MGR statues

SIR -Kalanidhi maran is reported to be the 20th richest indian inthe country. Cannot he sponsor statues of his late father Murasoli Maran anywhere in india? why should parliament be chosen to install this statue? and why out of tax payer money?
I have been reading (as well as watching on TV) on the unveiling of MGR and Maran statues in the Parliament. For crying out loud, don't these people have anything better to do? Every day when I open the paper, all I see is these politicians opening some bridge or a building or opening statues and what have you! This Mr. Maran has forgotten that he is an elected MP and that he has a job to do as a minister; he is always here in Chennai, standing next to his grand uncle, Mr. MK! Perhaps he is training to be the next CM!
You will NEVER see this kind of pretentious, factitious, egotistical, silly and self-serving functions in the USA; people have more productive lives! I am thinking of opening a 'ponnadai' shop; I betcha I could make lots of money!
The rate at which these guys are going installing statues for people who are alive and dead, we will be running out of space for living people!
 
Brahmins attacked; Temples vandalised - What do we do ?

Friends

Thanks to Kaudinya, Kudumi & Suresh for bringing this issue up. I am deeply distressed to read these reports and the news on these acts. Please see the following link http://www.dinamalar.com/2006dec08/specialnews1.asp?newsid=1

Now, the question is, what do we do as a community to protest against Brahmins being beaten up, Temples being attacked etc. ?

My suggestion is

1. Spread the word. Hindus are not safer in TN. Send the news item links to all your friends. Talk about it in your local temples and friends circle. We are all united againstattack on Hindu places of worship.

2. Send letters to editors of different newspapers/magazines etc. But be aware that most newspapers will not publish these as they are 'Secular' :) Take Hindu for example. It has no news on these happenings. But Hindu will be the first to publish the news of any other community's religious place being vandalized. But sending letters is important as it will at the least awaken them to the fact that there are hindus who will stand up for their rights.

3. Send letters to PM, President of India, MPs etc.

Sample letter might be

" Dear Mr. President/PM/MP etc


This is to bring to your attention the continued atrocities being heaped on Hindus, in TamilNadu by the so called rationalists. We are deeply distressed to read news reports of temples and places of Hindu worship being vandalized, idols of gods being broken and Hindu devotees being beaten up. All these criminal acts are supposed to be justified as reactions to the breaking of a Periyar Statue in Srirangam. While we all agree that those who broke the statue of Periyar be brought to justice, we are appalled by those who destroy our places of worship, assault people and thus jeopardize peace and tranquility in TN. What is more appalling is the fact that the TN government and various political leaders have not uttered a word against these vandals. We request your direct intervention in getting the TN Government to prevent these atrocities and bring to justice those who indulged in this vandalism."



4, I have put up a petition online with the above draft, addressed to our president of india. Please sign it and forward to all you know. It is essential that all freedom loving people sign it.Freedom of worship is a basic right.

Here is the link

http://www.petitiononline.com/HPW1234/petition.html



Now is the time to act and register our protest and make TN govermnet to follow the law of the land. Not to sit back and act as if nothing happened.

Jai Hind !!!

Ramki


Ramki
 
SIR - The CPI is a party(?) which cannot win even a single ward election in t.nadu on its own! The Mahendran, leader of CPI alternately falls at the feet of Mr. Karunanidhi & Jayalalitha.The CPI , to enjoy status of 'national(?) party, has to get a minumum of votes and seats int.nadu. and they cannot get these vote without penning hosannas to DMK! so the CPI is indulging in breast beating about damage to periar statue to keep the DMK in good humour!
 
SIR - For a govt. to permit installation of periar statue in Sri Ranga temple vicinity is the height of irresponsibility.I wonder whether Mr. Karunanidhi has given casual leave to his common sense. Lord Ranganathar and Late Romsomy periar are as divergent as carnatic music and cabaret dance! installing periar statue in orthodox temple is like lighting candles inside a cracker shop! Mr. Karunanidhi has burnt the stomach of crores of brahmins through this action. When DK goons come to garland periar statue they are bound to raise abusive slogans. and some devotees could react violently. this could lead to clashes between DK & Devotees and there could be frequent law and order problems. the tension could be used as an excuse by DMK/DK/PMK./CPI vandals to attack innocent brahmins - as is happening now. The already polluted t.nadu atmosphere could become more poisonous.
I appeal to Mr. Karunanidhi, in the interests of crores of devotees of Lord Ranga to withdraw this permission immediately. Statue of periar can be installed anywhere else.
 
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