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How much of a hypocrite we all are

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folks with obviously greater familiarity are here. for example brahin and sidhantha.

i wish sometimes what they were talking about. my name has been mentioned, but i am not sure under what context.

maybe either one can enlighten me through private msg as i have no clue to any of the duplicate id or hidden agenda.

i claim pure absolute and undiluted innocence :)
 
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folks with obviously greater familiarity are here. for example brahin and sidhantha.

i wish sometimes what they were talking about. my name has been mentioned, but i am not sure under what context.

maybe either one can enlighten me through private msg as i have no clue to any of the duplicate id or hidden agenda.

i claim pure absolute and undiluted innocence :)
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Its Ok..I will PM you.
 
My closing post will be this. I am not reading any replies to my posts earlier, just making a reply. Instead of asking "how much of a hypocrite we all are", may be the thread should be, "How much foolish we all are".


When a person fools you, of course in life everyone gets fooled at least once. Then you realize how foolish you have been. It couldn't be the money or anything that you have lost but it would be that fact that how that person played you so easily. But how will that person feel when he was not able to fool someone? This poster Brahin aka Renukarthikeyan or whatever it may be, I am not a victim in this play. But I am really enjoying the fact that how that member is using Kunjuppu to cover her identity just to escape from the insult I made. The more funny thing on her is the insult and the play still remains, I feel someone in this forum is an intellect that's why the insults remain. I m glad to see that and kunjuppu should be quite upset about it. However I do have seen such members on other forums whose sole aim is to attract people, seduce them and control them. They are mostly non Hindus claiming to hold high positions and mostly they pose as attractive females. Brahin aka Renukarthikeyan is one such member. The most important thing is how that person will feel about you when you fall in their trap heheheheh :)

However even though I leave the forum I know very well this member will never leave it how much ever that member is insulted and thrown down, because that person is with a motive here and that frankly if I say is to degrade the Hindu Dharma. They pretend as if they are attached to the Vedas, but cunningly right under the nose they promote other sources of God Men or something. I don't get angry with them, because people here are vulnerable enough to fall in their trap heheheh. It is beyond my control to change it I know it so I am cool, not a hypocrite at all.


When I went near Tirumala I felt great sense of relief along with other Bhaktas there, we climbed all the way up, it was my first time but still manage to climb up in 3 hours and 15 minutes along with my other two friends. It felt really peaceful and happy seeing the large number of people with so much devotion and I thought about the folly of the crowd in Puttaparthi. :)

Om Nama Shivaaaya....
 
kunjuppu said:
Dear suraju,

I do not go deep into anyone’s thinking. As I myself do not think much.

I am more concerned about privacy, letting people ‘be’ and ‘live and let live’.

People who bother me most, are folks, who preach extreme hate politics and attitudes towards folks other than us tambrams. It could be other castes or religions. Many such folks also have functions in their homes, sort of seemingly religious, but more out of tradition, and if we don’t like to participate, find fault with us.

This particular gentleman, came to Canada about 20 years ago. initially he wanted me to come regularly to prayer groupings and ayyappa stuff in his house. We demurred and after the second invite did not bother us. Always calls us for social functions. In short, he realizes my tolerations, and respects it. So in my definition, he is a ‘good’ man.



Again, this answer may be repeating my above lines. This friend does not think, just because I do not participate in any of his pooja functions, that he is above me socially, as many others here in Toronto do. he has a respect for me, and never exhibits a ‘holier than thou’ attitude.

In the context of tambram mores, to me hypocracy is not necessarily eating meat or boozing, but propounding ideas which claim tambram superiority. Just an example, another person whom I dread to call a ‘friend’, eats meat and boozes. But supports 2 tumbler theory!!! Basically he told me that as a thread wearing Brahmin, he has a certain ‘holiness’ – anusharanam, I think, is the word he used. He takes every opportunity to bad mouth other tamil castes, sri lankan tamils etc. to me that is hypocracy.




Suraju, my answer may not come up to your expectation level. But then this is the level I usually operate. I had some rules which defined ‘hypocracy’. Though I can articulate them as a ‘theorem’, I hope the ‘exercise’ sort of applied to the theorem and proved my point. Hence the QED.

I thank you.
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Dear Mr. Kunjuppu,
You have far exceeded my expectations.Thank you. Cheers.
 
Siddhanta said:
My closing post will be this. I am not reading any replies to my posts earlier, just making a reply. Instead of asking "how much of a hypocrite we all are", may be the thread should be, "How much foolish we all are".


When a person fools you, of course in life everyone gets fooled at least once. Then you realize how foolish you have been. It couldn't be the money or anything that you have lost but it would be that fact that how that person played you so easily. But how will that person feel when he was not able to fool someone? This poster Brahin aka Renukarthikeyan or whatever it may be, I am not a victim in this play. But I am really enjoying the fact that how that member is using Kunjuppu to cover her identity just to escape from the insult I made. The more funny thing on her is the insult and the play still remains, I feel someone in this forum is an intellect that's why the insults remain. I m glad to see that and kunjuppu should be quite upset about it. However I do have seen such members on other forums whose sole aim is to attract people, seduce them and control them. They are mostly non Hindus claiming to hold high positions and mostly they pose as attractive females. Brahin aka Renukarthikeyan is one such member. The most important thing is how that person will feel about you when you fall in their trap heheheheh :)

However even though I leave the forum I know very well this member will never leave it how much ever that member is insulted and thrown down, because that person is with a motive here and that frankly if I say is to degrade the Hindu Dharma. They pretend as if they are attached to the Vedas, but cunningly right under the nose they promote other sources of God Men or something. I don't get angry with them, because people here are vulnerable enough to fall in their trap heheheh. It is beyond my control to change it I know it so I am cool, not a hypocrite at all.


When I went near Tirumala I felt great sense of relief along with other Bhaktas there, we climbed all the way up, it was my first time but still manage to climb up in 3 hours and 15 minutes along with my other two friends. It felt really peaceful and happy seeing the large number of people with so much devotion and I thought about the folly of the crowd in Puttaparthi. :)

Om Nama Shivaaaya....
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Dear all,

I didnt really want to answer Siddhanta becos till now he was not directing any post to me but since he has mentioned my name here i have to clear my name.

I would like to bring to your kind attention that I am a pure Hindu of Indian Origin and what I share here with the threads i write is what I have read and study daily.
I am not as learned as most members but I am learning.
Being a strict vegetarian who does not even wear silk or use leather I feel Siddhanta is being very very unfair to me here.

I am not a NON HINDU.Siddhanta feels that I promote Adharma just becos I was saying that we can never judge the true nature of anyone based on their sexual experience in the Psycho..Kaliyuga thread in page 5.
I was just giving example of extreme ends of the spectrum and being judgemental on a character of a woman does not go hand in hand with Hindu Dharma.
Being Sattva is not enough.Purely Sattva sometimes still has some amount of Dualistic Vision..and we as Hindus are finally meant to be Non Judgemental and Non Dualistic ...Dvandaatheetam and Triguna Raheetam.

What I wrote in that Psycho Kaliyuga post also came with a risk.Very few woman dare openly voice what i did cos they are afraid may be they might be labelled as even ill repute and I dont blame them too cos man will sometimes stoop real low to degrade a woman like what Siddhanta is doing right now.

But I have no fear when I write cos as Hindu I fear nothing.
I dont hold any high position as Siddhanta claims. I am a Doctor who feels that all what I own is loaned from God and I dont know what he means by attractiveness... Was he was talking about Brahin or me?


With this I rest my case.

Siddhanta: there is only one way I can be a NON HINDU that is if I am beyond Religion and I know I have not attained that stage yet.
 
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Siddhanta said:
.... They are mostly non Hindus claiming to hold high positions and mostly they pose as attractive females. Brahin aka Renukarthikeyan is one such member. The most important thing is how that person will feel about you when you fall in their trap heheheheh.
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I am aware I should keep a safe distance from this kind of nonsense, but I just can't keep quiet when I see repeated b.s. being bandied about. Siddhanta, you are an idiot.
 
renukakarthikayan said:
Dear all,

I didnt really want to answer Siddhanta becos till now he was not directing any post to me but since he has mentioned my name here i have to clear my name.

I would like to bring to your kind attention that I am a pure Hindu of Indian Origin and what I share here with the threads i write is what I have read and study daily.
I am not as learned as most members but I am learning.
Being a strict vegetarian who does not even wear silk or use leather I feel Siddhanta is being very very unfair to me here.

I am not a NON HINDU.Siddhanta feels that I promote Adharma just becos I was saying that we can never judge the true nature of anyone based on their sexual experience in the Psycho..Kaliyuga thread in page 5.
I was just giving example of extreme ends of the spectrum and being judgemental on a character of a woman does not go hand in hand with Hindu Dharma.
Being Sattva is not enough.Purely Sattva sometimes still has some amount of Dualistic Vision..and we as Hindus are finally meant to be Non Judgemental and Non Dualistic ...Dvandaatheetam and Triguna Raheetam.

What I wrote in that Psycho Kaliyuga post also came with a risk.Very few woman dare openly voice what i did cos they are afraid may be they might be labelled as even ill repute and I dont blame them too cos man will sometimes stoop real low to degrade a woman like what Siddhanta is doing right now.

But I have no fear when I write cos as Hindu I fear nothing.
I dont hold any high position as Siddhanta claims. I am a Doctor who feels that all what I own is loaned from God and I dont know what he means by attractiveness... Was he was talking about Brahin or me?


With this I rest my case.

Siddhanta: there is only one way I can be a NON HINDU that is if I am beyond Religion and I know I have not attained that stage yet.
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Dear Renuka,

I understand. I appreciate your maturity and restraint. Cheers.
 
renukakarthikayan said:
Dear all,

I didnt really want to answer Siddhanta becos till now he was not directing any post to me but since he has mentioned my name here i have to clear my name.

I would like to bring to your kind attention that I am a pure Hindu of Indian Origin and what I share here with the threads i write is what I have read and study daily.
I am not as learned as most members but I am learning.
Being a strict vegetarian who does not even wear silk or use leather I feel Siddhanta is being very very unfair to me here.

I am not a NON HINDU.Siddhanta feels that I promote Adharma just becos I was saying that we can never judge the true nature of anyone based on their sexual experience in the Psycho..Kaliyuga thread in page 5.
I was just giving example of extreme ends of the spectrum and being judgemental on a character of a woman does not go hand in hand with Hindu Dharma.
Being Sattva is not enough.Purely Sattva sometimes still has some amount of Dualistic Vision..and we as Hindus are finally meant to be Non Judgemental and Non Dualistic ...Dvandaatheetam and Triguna Raheetam.

What I wrote in that Psycho Kaliyuga post also came with a risk.Very few woman dare openly voice what i did cos they are afraid may be they might be labelled as even ill repute and I dont blame them too cos man will sometimes stoop real low to degrade a woman like what Siddhanta is doing right now.

But I have no fear when I write cos as Hindu I fear nothing.
I dont hold any high position as Siddhanta claims. I am a Doctor who feels that all what I own is loaned from God and I dont know what he means by attractiveness... Was he was talking about Brahin or me?


With this I rest my case.

Siddhanta: there is only one way I can be a NON HINDU that is if I am beyond Religion and I know I have not attained that stage yet.
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Smt Renuka -

I have not been following all the discussions closely though I read a few posts since they tended to provide humor for most part though some do cross the line of decency (like the one you are referring to),

Our online persona is known only by how we show up here. In my view, you are one of the few who come across as genuine, sincere, friendly, respectful and you are an icon for Integrity.

Many of us were probably smiling at the 'Tamasha' in these postings though it is not funny when the allegations cross a point (like Sri Kunjuppu pointed out regarding the postings of a troubled person). I am sure you know that your name and your persona is held in high regard by many despite some silly posts.

Regards
 
Hey guess what guys!!!
Check out a newbie post in the Advaita Dvaita thread;
Its attack day for me..I feel like OBL.
good nite everyone its 11.13pm for me.
I will check out the Fun tomorrow.


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Originally Posted by hariraghavendran
Hi to all,
I am a new entry to the blog and I hope I may be of some use in this website.
Then coming to ur question , can advaitha and visisthadvaitha be reconciled and some one here said that dvaita is a plant, visisthadvaitha is flower and advaitha is the fragrance.
It just shows ur ignorance and lack of reading scriptures.
Dvaitha , Visisthadvaitha and Advaitha differ in their fundamental aspects of brahman, jeeva and the mukthi which are the three most fundamental thing in vedanta.
@Renuka
Dont know why? May be to keep some traditions alive..sometimes even truth is denied.
This statement shows ur ignorance and lack of respect for our gurus.Our gurus be it for dvaitha , visisthadvaitha and advaitha have always held debates for churning out the truth in vedas and they are not there debating for years for some kidding and giving entertainment.
It also shows you have not read any scriptures and you are making claims of finding the truth by reading some internet stuff (it seems that u already know the truth which our sages found out in deep meditation and u have apparently found in some internet). By looking at ur post, I think u r one of those who are for name sake brahmins and who consider themselves as knowledgeable persons than our gurus by merely reading some internet stuff.

[h=1][/h]Dont know why? May be to keep some traditions alive..sometimes even truth is denied.Dont know why? May be to keep some traditions alive..sometimes even truth is denied.
 
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I have a honest doubt!

When we can't make two people reconcile why try to reconcile different

theories and create friction and fire works in the forum! :noidea:
 
Am I a hypocrite? Whether will I go to Heaven or Hell: A Self Inquiry


I was a bit reluctant to enter into this Thread....although the topic is very close to me! Lol.

1. I used to write blog posts in Wall Street Journal a lot last year under a different pen name (Mo Ha or Morgan Harry) - WSJ is a very mean alley to dribble my ball; people are super educated and very rich and call names very easily.

One guy said, "You are a big cheat and a hypocrite....because you said you voted for John McCain but now you go out of the way to defend Barack Hussein Obama - the Muslim....you have no credibility here in WSJ"

I replied, "I am a Centrist, a former Democratic Socialist and I was a PUMA because of the DNC, and I liked McCain for his service in the Navy, while BHO didn't serve in any Military and was very inexperienced - therefore I voted for McCain; now in the Healthcare debate I am 100% with BHO, and I will support and work for his re-election... Why should I be called a cheat and a hypocrite, you rabid Right Wing Radicals?"

2. As a former Orthodox person now turned a Godless Naturalist, I never prayed any God for anything in the past 40 years. One of the Orthodox Brahmins here said " You are a big cheat and a hypocrite - you have everything in your life but still you say you never prayed God, and say Man created God, what a CRAP... you will be roasted in the HELL, wait & watch"

Another Fundamentalist Hindu said, "You see, in all probability you will go to Heaven before anyone of us.... because you don't have hypocrisy in your bones and genes - you are just too plain and clean - whereas we all say one thing, and do something else in the name of religion and God"

I told them " For me, there is NO Heaven or Hell... as per the dictates of Nature I will die one day - today or tomorrow or some day - and my soul disappears immediately and I just don't exist anymore..... while my kids will propagate my genes that I inherited from my parents..... I will live and work hard with my Free Will till death embraces me.... I am not afraid of dying today....Hell never threatened me, nor Heaven ever enthused me...... I am after all one of the trillion living things in this planet and millions die everyday!"

Who cares if someone calls me a "Cheat and a Hypocrite"?

I laugh out loud.....

Cheers.

ps. Recurring themes in my conversation with very religious people are FEAR of death, loss of wealth and contracting bad diseases like cancer, Alzheimer's or Parkinson's diseases or losing the relationship with kids and wife etc etc.. my answer to them is just by praying to Gods WILL never protect you from such the impending events.. the Nature's wrath... Nature will always win... my mother, a pious traditional person who prayed God for all her life was hit with stomach cancer and died even after proper medical intervention! "What does that tell you?" I ask. A hurricane Rita hit our area; many Churches and churchgoers lost their lives; we all escaped with small scratches!! What say you?
 
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SIDDHANTA!!!


dont drag my name with any lady in this forum & if you are a real man than put your picture here & talk to me directly dont act like chhaka hiding behind a curtain
 
Dear Shri.Siddhanta,
Sorry SIR,I have to tell you that you have not cared to uphold the decorum of this forum
by making unwarranted comments about Smt.Renuka Karthikayan(whose postings I have read from January,2010 till she did not participate from June2010 for a few months and again when she started her participation.She has declared on more than one occasion in this Forum that her mother is a Brahmin and father from other than Brahmin community
and whom she has married etc.You have not disclosed about yourself.
I am really worried that only persons like you are capable of harming the interests of Hindus.Most of the members introduce themselves at the time of joining the Forum.
I tried to locate yours,but could not.Your intentions and motives are shrouded in mystery.
 
DEAR MR. B.K.M,

THE INTENTIONS AND MOTIVES ARE CRYSTAL CLEAR.

what IS SHROUDED IN MYSTERY IS THE real IDENTITY OF THE PERSON

WHO HAS MADE THE SOLE PURPOSE OF HIS/HER LIFE THE

RELENTLESS ATTACK ON A SWEET AND WELL INFORMED HONEST LADY!

REMINDS ME OF SOME OF THE CHARACTERS WE READ ABOUT IN THE

EPICS -ROAMING AROUND WITH MACE IN THE HAND AND CRUSHING ANY

ONE WHO DARES TO SPEAK OUT/OR AGAINST THEM.

A VERY SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS!

wHOSE AVTAR IS THIS ANYWAY-SWORN FOR A REVENGE?!

WITH WARM REGARDS,
V.R.

 
Yamaka said:
....A hurricane Rita hit our area; many Churches and churchgoers lost their lives;
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An interesting corollary to this observation is the curious case of survivors thanking god for sparing them! What about those who were not spared? Why did this god send the natural disaster in the first place? These are people who are victims of life-long religious indoctrination.
 
1. ps. Recurring themes in my conversation with very religious people are FEAR of death, loss of wealth and contracting bad diseases like cancer, Alzheimer's or Parkinson's diseases or losing the relationship with kids and wife etc etc.. my answer to them is just by praying to Gods WILL never protect you from such the impending events.. the Nature's wrath... Nature will always win... my mother, a pious traditional person who prayed God for all her life was hit with stomach cancer and died even after proper medical intervention! "What does that tell you?" I ask. A hurricane Rita hit our area; many Churches and churchgoers lost their lives; we all escaped with small scratches!! What say you?

Y,

I do not think it is fair to compare a faithful being killed in a hurricane to a godless being spared is faith related.

To most people, faith is a source of comfort. various people lean on it, various times, various ways. For some it is mental satisfaction. For others it is fear driven. For the jihadist, it is reward driven (next world 70 virgins et al).

To be without a faith, is ok. there needs to be a certain amount of strength drawn from within, to live an atheist. That is what

I think. But it is not right to say, that all the misfortunes that happen will only happen to those who believe. The hurricane could have struck your household too. Just by chance it did not.

I too believe in the power of nature. I believe that we are abusing it. We humans, I believe have corrupted nature to the nth hilt in the past century, and continuing to do so.

I believe just like the ebola virus, other viruses will appear and cause mass deaths and destruction. For the earth cannot sustain this level of plunder, and the air cannot sustain this level of pollution, for ever.

Alfred Hitchcock produced a movie ‘Birds’ in the 1950s. in a small Californian town, for no reason, one fine day, birds of various feathers gather, and attack the humans. This goes on for a few days, and then, just like they came, the birds disappear. GREAT MOVIE. I am waiting for more ‘Birds’ to happen.

Nature WILL revenge.

:)
 
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