Impact of Western civilization

[biswa]

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Regarding US, gulf, Jews, Muslims etc. please estimate how many people were killed in the name of Judaism and how many were killed in the name of Islam, Jihad etc.

In the field of religious genocide Islam definitely comes first, followed by Christianity. No other religion comes anywhere close.

 

[krish44]

Of course, I will be the first to say that being white does not automatically mean being good. But the contributions of the western civilizations to the advance of the human race cannot be ignored. Contributions by Hindus pale in comparison.

Of course we never fail to remind everyone that we invented the big zero.

hindus did nothing much for the world
our people were cannon fodder in two world wars for the allies
we contibuted TBs for US economy
Perhaps the concept of zero
now we are 120 crore consumers for the western world .
if india and china disappear world will be doomed

 

[Raji Ram]

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Instead of of all that, just travel by bullock cart, praise the virtues of curd rice diet, and complain about sour grapes.

Come on Biswa Sir!

There are virtues in curd rice diet! You know why?? The recent winner of a competition is Kibow Biotech, about which I have

shared in forum and the basic ingredient of the dietary supplement they prepare is derived from what is found in butter milk!

Jeera kashAyam is good for reducing cholesterol and hence taken regularly by most of the people in Kerala.

The best method is to adopt the best in every culture and diet, being careful NOT to harm any living being! :thumb:

P.S: For those who want proof for the competition: Buzz of BIO Voting | 2014

 

[krish44]

Regarding US, gulf, Jews, Muslims etc. please estimate how many people were killed in the name of Judaism and how many were killed in the name of Islam, Jihad etc.

In the field of religious genocide Islam definitely comes first, followed by Christianity. No other religion comes anywhere close.

you might talk of olden times.
Us and allies reduced afganisthan and iraq to a rubble . the latter was invaded mostly for their oil.
what US did in hiroshima and nagasaki can never be forgotten by anyone
Their violation of human rights in vietnam like malai masssacre can turn anybodys stomoch
How can many indians live there defies my imagination.
I have refused to go any where near the US because of their airport security and such unsavoury practises .
we get treated like dirt in that country . we stay their counting a few dollars

 

[renuka]

BTW is the west is all that bad how come so many TBs are flocking there or at least tried to flock there?

 

[renuka]

Right, blame the white people for everything.

Never mind that the white people taught you about steam engine, internal combustion engine, cars, railways, planes, postal service, banks, electricity, laws of physics, laws of chemistry, modern medicine, the legal system, the computer and the internet.

Instead of of all that, just travel by bullock cart, praise the virtues of curd rice diet, and complain about sour grapes.

I agree with your post..I am not praising the east or west here..but we can learn from any nation and any race.

I will tell you what I learnt from a Nigerian..once I had a Nigerian patient who was dating a local female and he was talking about her very lovingly..so I asked him "I take it that you are going to stay much longer in Msia than you planned since you seem to be in love?"

He replied "doc..I have no idea what tomorrow would be..I only know today"

For a while I smiled at him and told him "yes you are right.."

Some of my friends told me cos this guy was just thinking of momentary love but whatever said and done his words did make sense..we do not know tomorrow and we only know today.

So you see we need to appreciate anyone to learn something from them.

 

[renuka]

The best method is to adopt the best in every culture and diet, being careful NOT to harm any living being! :thumb:

Dear RR ji,

Actually Curd Rice is a Non Veg food cos it has so many live Bacillus in it.

 

[tks]

West, Whites, blacks, Indians, Chinese etc are all human beings.
All civilizations have made contributions to the world we live in.

All have done some form of atrocities causing major injuries at some point in time. So we really cannot generalize about greatness or lack of greatness of any group.

If the English dominated Indian people that is because the Indian people allowed themselves to be weak by the system of government(s) they chose to have.

The only greatness we can meaningfully talk about are the ideas, ideals and other concrete contributions. India's contributions to meta-science is phenomenal. The West is known for their contributions to modern day science.

Today's Indians in structured societies have a large number of people (and I am not generalizing as 'All') that are a confused lot , clueless about their heritage, and generally like to complain.

We can have broad mind to acknowledge human accomplishments wherever they may come from and acknowledge the existence complainers wherever they come from.

 

[tks]

BTW is the west is all that bad how come so many TBs are flocking there or at least tried to flock there?

Why single out TBs? Many from all parts of the 'non-west' seem to flock there

 

[Raji Ram]

Actually Curd Rice is a Non Veg food cos it has so many live Bacillus in it.

Since we are not killing the cow to get milk, it is veg food, Renu!

There is ahimsA silk, in which the silk threads are taken after the moth flies away!

It will be coarse silk because of the number of knots in the silk thread used.

 

[renuka]

Why single out TBs? Many from all parts of the 'non-west' seem to flock there

Its becos so far I have not heard Non TBs lament as much!LOL

 

[biswa]

you might talk of olden times.
Us and allies reduced afganisthan and iraq to a rubble . the latter was invaded mostly for their oil.
what US did in hiroshima and nagasaki can never be forgotten by anyone
Their violation of human rights in vietnam like malai masssacre can turn anybodys stomoch
How can many indians live there defies my imagination.
I have refused to go any where near the US because of their airport security and such unsavoury practises .
we get treated like dirt in that country . we stay their counting a few dollars

Remember I said, religious violence which is senseless, as opposed to economic violence, which (one can argue) is for self preservation.

Regarding airport security, what is your experience in India? Have you ever been asked "Chai paani do saab, dollar do saab?" just to let your carry-on luggage through? At least that doesn't happen in the US.

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Renu,

Please don't write,

'Dear R R Ji, Do you mean to say that drinking the blood of an animal, without killing it, is also veg. food??' :lol:

 

[biswa]

Where's the fiber in curd rice RR ji? It is like an infant's diet! Heavy in carbs and milk fat.

Come on Biswa Sir!

There are virtues in curd rice diet! You know why?? The recent winner of a competition is Kibow Biotech, about which I have

shared in forum and the basic ingredient of the dietary supplement they prepare is derived from what is found in butter milk!

Jeera kashAyam is good for reducing cholesterol and hence taken regularly by most of the people in Kerala.

The best method is to adopt the best in every culture and diet, being careful NOT to harm any living being! :thumb:

P.S: For those who want proof for the competition: Buzz of BIO Voting | 2014

 

[Raji Ram]

Its becos so far I have not heard Non TBs lament as much!LOL

ayyoooooooo Renu! Sometimes you are so innocent!

K Sir presented to me a book which laments about a Goundar boy struggling to get a partner, even form other castes!!

Lamenting is Indian way of life! :blah:

 

[renuka]

Since we are not killing the cow to get milk, it is veg food, Renu!

RR ji...just try to imagine this..so many microscopic bacilli creeping all over the plate..then going into our digestive tract.

This is what we consume when we eat Curd Rice..so technically its Non Veg!LOL

RR ji..next time when you eat Curd Rice..picturize this.

 

[Raji Ram]

Where's the fiber in curd rice RR ji? It is like an infant's diet! Heavy in carbs and milk fat.

There is limit to eat any food, Biswa Sir! :hungry:

Most of the tambram elders prefer buttermilk with less rice as one of the two / three courses they eat for lunch / dinner!

 

[renuka]

ayyoooooooo Renu! Sometimes you are so innocent!

K Sir presented to me a book which laments about a Goundar boy struggling to get a partner, even form other castes!!

Lamenting is Indian way of life! :blah:

Dear RR ji,

My Punjabi friends seem very happy in the USA..they never complain about anything.

 

[renuka]

Dear Renu,

Please don't write,

'Dear R R Ji, Do you mean to say that drinking the blood of an animal, without killing it, is also veg. food??' :lol:

No No RR ji..I wont write that check out the pics of Lactobacillus I pasted for you in one post!LOL

 

[Raji Ram]

RR ji...just try to imagine this..so many microscopic bacilli creeping all over the plate..then going into our digestive tract.

This is what we consume when we eat Curd Rice..so technically its Non Veg!LOL .....

Scary images, Renu! I am thankful to the Almighty because we don't have the microscopic vision! :hail:

 

[sravna]

I agree that the west has made great contributions to modern science that has risen the comforts of people manifold. But it is like saying I made a child happy by giving him chocolates. Of course in moderation it is ok. But if people get obsessed with science and technology I think their ability for finer feelings will slowly vanish. You then become obsessed with what is external than focussing on inner improvement. I am sure even the west does not realize this truth and assumes that it is natural for one to fall for temptations and that the human mind is inherently imperfect. This is where the stellar contributions of Indian philosophy stand out emphasising that one can and should strive for inner improvement and not be obsessed with the external things.

I agree it is impossible to cut oneself off the external world but one has to be in control of self and not be carried away by what science and technology can offer.

 

[krish44]

Scary images, Renu! I am thankful to the Almighty because we don't have the microscopic vision! :hail:

renuka jis bacilli looked like some unfried veg cutlets . . . are they harmful . all sentimental young foreign TBs consume thayir sadam and think of their mother back home frequently

 

[krish44]

I agree that the west has made great contributions to modern science that has risen the comforts of people manifold. But it is like saying I made a child happy by giving him chocolates. Of course in moderation it is ok. But if people get obsessed with science and technology I think their ability for finer feelings will slowly vanish. You then become obsessed with what is external than focussing on inner improvement. I am sure even the west does not realize this truth and assumes that it is natural for one to fall for temptations and that the human mind is inherently imperfect. This is where the stellar contributions of Indian philosophy stand out emphasising that one can and should strive for inner improvement and not be obsessed with the external things.

I agree it is impossible to cut oneself off the external world but one has to be in control of self and not be carried away by what science and technology can offer.

sravnaji
I have been missing your wise posts . where have you been?

I like your post very much . Tell all these westernised indians about not falling for material things and look for their inner self
they need this education badly
we are of course over the hill . no redemption for us
came to know it rained in chennai couple of days back . how are the prayers working?

 

[krish44]

BTW is the west is all that bad how come so many TBs are flocking there or at least tried to flock there?

TBs heard the clink of american dollars much before many others . perhaps punjabis beat them to it to some extent . these TBs are excellent slave material . thy will work at half the wages of whites and give their lives for their employers .
then , when they get old , they realise their children do not want them and have adopted western style marrying whites .then they dream of india and make discreet enquiries as to where to go in india for last days . very sad the total picture

 

[Raji Ram]

.......... then , when they get old , they realise their children do not want them and have adopted western style marrying whites .then they dream of india and make discreet enquiries as to where to go in india for last days . very sad the total picture

All of them need not wait for their next generation! Many of the TB youngsters who go for higher studies, get American / Chinese
spouses and end up being a slave to their in-laws, more than any other tambram who marries a tambram girl!:ballchain:

What surprises me is that if a tambram girl gets married to an American guy, she manages to supports her parents! :thumb: