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Ritual Purity and Men.

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Vaagmi said:
It is a belief that the right ear of brahmin represents the holy Gangs which removes impurities.

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Vaagmi ji,


Ganga is supposedly from the feet of Lord Vishnu...then it comes down to earth and is tamed by Lord Shiva and then it is connected to the right ear of a Brahmin.

Ok so that means even Iyengars have received Ganga from Lord Shiva!

Narayana!

Sent from my not so smart lap top.
 
From Narayanas feet to Sivas head and then to a brahmins ear. Siva Siva.
Travelling and so less time and the need to be smart. Lol.
 
Dear Vaagmi ji,

From what I know the right ear representing Ganga could be related to the incident where Sage Jahnu drank up Ganga and after Bhagiratha begged Jahnu to let Ganga go..then Ganga came out from Jahnu's right ear..hence Ganga is also known as Jahnavi.

Now that was an isolated incident..how did it apply to all Brahmins?

If it applies to the descendants of Sage Jahnu I can understand but why to every other Brahmin?

Could you kindly let me know which text says the Right ear represents Ganga is all Brahmins?


Because what I found online seems to differ.

The shloka in Kurmapurana that says that the Yagnopavit should be raised unto the right ear while a person answers the call of nature ..does not say that the right ear represents Ganga.

I hope you can clear my doubt.

Nidhaya dakshine karnam
brahmasutramudangmukha
Akhni kuryachchakrinmoothram rathrai
ched dakshinaamukha

The shloka that appears in Kurmapurana says that the holy thread must
be raised to the right ear when one urinates.
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BTW I found this instead!

That its the left ear that represents Ganga!

It is customary that while passing urine or stool, the thread is
raised and put on the ear. It is believed that Aditya, Vasu, Vayu and
Agni dwell in the right ear of Brahmins. Ganga and other rivers reside
in the left ear.
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http://archive.asianage.com/mystic-mantra/power-sacred-thread-852



So which is it?? Left or Right???
 
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Though the comments, counters & all give out lot of useful & also not so useful, but serves perversion moods of members, including me. Let us hope some one or Two of you Stalverts who dwell on almost all the Topics would eventually come to some conclusion so that the rest of us could realise your dedication to T.B. & we can adopt the same in future , as well.
In this Context, I appeal to our founder Mr PRAVEEN, to start offering his experience on these , so that we can prove to be really useful to our members & the T. Brahmins at large ?
Rishikesan
 
Dear Rishi Sir,

You are just great! If one or two of the 'stalwarts' come to some conclusion,

you are ready to adopt it and also expect the rest of the members to do so! :cool:
 
Dear Raji Ram, Please read my writing again,not only on the face of it, but also on the inherent ideas to bring out the unity if feasible, and also ensure Mr Praveen to come out clearly on such Topics especially when it be,comes embroiled ,so badly, not able to find the end of the thread, let alone catch up with the main topic after even a couple of days?because/,the Veterans occupy fully and people like me become helpless and drop out from the Topic
At this point we all look to the clear and positive opinion of our Founder to Gude and also Ensure an ultimate / useful end , in the larger interest of T. B s
Risvhikesan
 
Thanks I have read your comments that restriction is potedfor ladies only.
I hope you have forgoten about dharmasaatram which is common for all
brahmins.

There is one chapter as Ahneekamrutham" which explains how to do daily rotuines
and the basic rules to be followed from raising bed to have bhojan. It is briefly
described which are mostly for brahmin family which is common for men and women.
I feel after reading that you can post your qn. then I will answer for your thread.

with regards
Srinivasmoorty R
 
Dear Rishi Sir,

thangaL varuththam enakkum purigiRadhu! enna seyvadhu?

Many threads are prolonging like this and the moderator also can't help.
The only thing he can do is to put a 'Brahma mudichchu' when things go out of control! :lock1:
 
rishikesan said:
Dear Raji Ram, Please read my writing again,not only on the face of it, but also on the inherent ideas to bring out the unity if feasible, and also ensure Mr Praveen to come out clearly on such Topics especially when it be,comes embroiled ,so badly, not able to find the end of the thread, let alone catch up with the main topic after even a couple of days?because/,the Veterans occupy fully and people like me become helpless and drop out from the Topic
At this point we all look to the clear and positive opinion of our Founder to Gude and also Ensure an ultimate / useful end , in the larger interest of T. B s
Risvhikesan
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Sri Rishikesan

Some suggestions come to my mind that I want to share with you.

Praveen is indeed a leader for having founded this site and for his vision. But no person can keep up with all the posts. Intervention via moderation happens when there are violations of rules of the forum in a flagrant manner. Since there are no violations of any rule reaching out to him is asking too much of his valuable time (in my view of course).


Therefore in terms of content etc such forums are best 'moderated' by the members themselves. You can let your views be known even more openly.

You can choose to read only the threads that interest you. I do not read most of them for example with my limited time that I come here to waste and I choose discussion to follow or ignore or post based on the nature of a topic, who is initiating the thread, what the subject title is and the reputation in my mind as to who is most active.

There are therefore ways to not feel helpless.

For example, I had ignored this thread for some time but there seem to be many posts and hence I tried to open the thread to see what is going on. On browsing quickly from the latest post down I found that you had mentioned reaching out to the moderator. Now your focus is a stand alone topic not connected to the thread based on its name and hence I do not have to scan all the posts to respond to you. You may or may not find what I have to say as useful. Regardless I decided to share these suggestions.

You may want to write in paragraphs so that it is easy on the readers.

If you think some members are drowning your view points you can say so.

My view is that most of the 'regulars' have already established a reputation by their past posts.

I actually welcome well thought out and informative posts. There are very few people whose posts I look forward to even if I may not agree with their views.

You may have your own criteria that can help limit what you want to focus on. Then you can share your view points.

If you have something that people can relate to they will share their views about your posts.

All the best!
 
I fail to understand what is making some so uneasy with this thread that it should be "closed".

Technically there is no acute reason for its shut down. (In fact there is one unanswered question in this thread which I am still waiting for)

It makes me wonder why similar sentiment was not felt in the "worshiping during menstruation" thread..that thread went on and on and on and still might go on and on and on.

But here when the thread is about Males..it becomes uneasy.

Well at least now I can feel happy that I am right in feeling that any thread about woman is always a hot one and no one would ever want a female based thread to be closed!LOL
 
Vaagmi said:
Before more damage is done let me post this.
It is a belief that the right ear of brahmin represents the holy Gangs which removes impurities. A brahmin after closing his mouth with his hand when yawning touches his right ear. Same way with poonal.

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The ear symbolically represent purity (like Ganga because) it is the instrument of hearing of OM and other sacred mantras - my first post.
 
The mythological account of Origin of Jat people from Shiva's Locks (Here the word "locks" refer to the Hairlocks/Jataye of Lord Shiva.) was propounded by the author of Deva Samhita.
Deva Samhita, [SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][full citation needed][/SUP] is a collection of Sanskrit hymns by Gorakh Sinha during the early medieval period.

Devasamhita records the account of Origin of the Jats in the form of discussion between Shiva and Parvati expressed in shloka (verses) numbering from 12-17. Some relevant verses are given below.
There is mention of Jat people in Deva Samhitā[SUP][citation needed][/SUP] in the form of powerful rulers over vast plains of Central Asia.

When Pārvatī asks Shiva about the origin of Jat people, their antiquity and characters of Jat people, Shiva tells her like this in Sanskrit shloka-15 as under:
महाबला महावीर्या, महासत्य पराक्रमाः
Mahābalā mahāvīryā, Mahāsatya parākramāḥ
सर्वाग्रे क्षत्रिया जट्‌टा देवकल्‍पा दृढ़-व्रता:
Sarvāgre kshatriyā jattā Devakalpā dridh-vratāḥ || 15 ||

Meaning - "They are symbol of sacrifice, bravery and industry. They are, like gods, firm of determination and of all thekshatriyā, the Jat people are the prime rulers of the earth.


"Shiva explains Parvati about the origin of Jat people in Shloka –16 of Deva samhita as under:
श्रृष्टेरादौ महामाये वीर भद्रस्य शक्तित:
Shrishterādau mahāmāye Virabhadrasya shaktitaḥ
कन्यानां दक्षस्य गर्भे जाता जट्टा महेश्वरी
Kanyānām Dakshasya garbhe jātā jatta maheshwarī. || 16 ||


Meaning – "In the beginning of the universe, with the personification of the illusionary powers of Virabhadra and Daksha's daughter gani's womb originated the caste of Jats.


"Pārvatī asks, in the shloka-17 of 'Deva Samhitā' about the origin and exploits of the Jat people, whom none else has so far revealed, Shiva tells Parvati that:

गर्व खर्चोत्र विग्राणां देवानां च महेश्वरी
Garva kharchotra vigrānam devānām cha maheshwarī
विचित्रं विस्‍मयं सत्‍वं पौराण कै साङ्गीपितं
Vichitram vismayam satvam Pauran kai sāngīpitam || 17 ||


Meaning - "The history of origin of Jat people is extremely wonderful and their antiquity glorious. The Pundits of history did not record their annals lest it should injure and impair their false pride and of the vipras and gods.

We describe that realistic history before you."Deva Samhita mentions that after the destruction of Daksha's sacrifice by Virabhadra and his ganas, the followers of Shiva, the defeated gods sought Brahma and asked his counsel.

Brahma advised the gods to make their peace with Shiva. Shiva accepted his advice and restored the burnt head of Daksha and the broken limbs were made whole. Then the devas thanked Shiva for his gentleness, and invited him to sacrifice. There Daksha looked on him with reverence, the rite was duly performed, and there also Vishnu appeared. A compromise was achieved between Vaishnavas and followers of Shiva.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_Jat_people_from_Shiva's_Locks



I came across this link sent by a friend.

I find this interesting because here it says that Jaats are from Lord Shiva's locks.

Now all of us know within Shiva's locks is Ganga.

So is there any co relation with Jaats and Brahmins? Since the ear of a Brahmin represents Ganga..and the Locks of Shiva gave birth to Jaats..is there any historical evidence that Brahmins and Jaats could have a common origin?
 
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Dear Renu,

Jaats are from Shiva's locks; Shiva's locks hold Ganga and Ganga is in the ear of a brahmin!

Hence, Jaats will easily hold Brahmins' ears!! :decision:
 
Raji Ram said:
Dear Renu,

Jaats are from Shiva's locks; Shiva's locks hold Ganga and Ganga is in the ear of a brahmin!

Hence, Jaats will easily hold Brahmins' ears!! :decision:
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Dear RR ji,

Today I was reading Manu smriti was discussing with a friend..one stanza goes that the Brahmin being born from the mouth of the Supreme person is the eldest and is the ruler of the world.

Then my friend told me thats not true cos Deva Samhita says that Jaats are the prime rulers of the world.

- "They are symbol of sacrifice, bravery and industry. They are, like gods, firm of determination and of all the kshatriyā, the Jat people are the prime rulers of the earth."
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No idea which is true?
 
A Panjabi Jat
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A Tamil Brahmin
brahmin_20090330.webp

There is unmistakable similarity:
Both belong to the human Race, and now happen to share a Country (maybe).
 
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