Spiritual Frauds

[C RAVI]

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Ravi,

Only the motives behind whole episode has to be found out ultimately.

Nityanandan may be a sinner but Sun TV people are not saints.

Why Sun TV took up this exposure?

There are several God men belonging to all religions indulging in fraudulent activities but why Nityanandan was targeted?

Who funded Sun TV for this job? Is it people belonging to other religions or fellow God men who envy Nityanandan for his speedy growth or any other problem between rulers and Nityanandan?

I wish answers to my above doubt comes out in due course.

All the best

Well said Sri RVR ji,

Politically/legally, it's a very interesting case and every one of us are curious to know the final outcome and all the under cover work that were carried out for the whole episode.....

Here I got a doubt. Will it be possible for us to accept without doubt, the forthcoming stories of this case and that will all be black and white for the public to agree or disagree??

As you have quoted in your previous post - "It’s more a moral and ethical issue"...., I agree 100% with you. A common man need to act smart for his own interest, knowing what divinity, spirituality and spiritual leadership is...

 

[C RAVI]

Why leave out Swamys and godmen from discussions......இதுக்கோசரம் மெம்பெர்ஸ் ஒருத்தொருக்கொருத்தர் குடுமி பிடிச்சுண்டு குஸ்தி போடவேண்டாமே..அதனாலதான்..

Cheers!

Correctaana kaarnam kuduthel, Sri Ragy avargale...

Aaanaal orutharukku oruthar kudumi pidichindu gusthi poduvarthlay thaan oru kalakalappu, oru gilugiluppu irukkaamey...

 

[RVR]

Unless this is just a misstatement, it indeed is an astounding statement!!

Please correct me if I am wrong, but the two points conveyed are (i) rape is not not a big offense and (ii) sexual intercourse is not a big offense.

First, I don't understand why sexual intercourse is an offense at all, let alone a big offense? But that is not the astounding part. I am startled to note that rape is not a big offense per Indian laws. Really?

The only thing worse than rape is murder. Rape is not a sexual offense, it is a violent offense of the worst kind. I am really amazed that it is not a criminal offense per Indian law. Is this really the case? Can you confirm this RVR?

regards....

Prof Nara Sir,

I just went through Indian Penal Code on punishment for rape which is available in the following web link.

Section 376 in The Indian Penal Code, 1860

Punishment seems to be harsh at a minimum of seven and half years.

But to the best of my knowledge, no women has given rape complaint against Nityanandan. If there is no complaint, then there is no case. If two opposite sex people willing do sexual intercourse, then it will not amount to rape.

Even in the Ranjitha-Nityanandan affair, there is no tape recording on sexual intercourse. So there is no case of rape.

As I said in my earlier posting, it is a flimsy case on this point.

On the contrary, Sun TV is at great fault for recording and broadcasting somebody's personal life.

If both Nityanandan and Ranjitha are really interested in Indian Citizens, they should file a defamation case against Sun TV for intruding to their private affair.

If they allow Sun TV to go unscathed, they will fix cameras in all bed rooms and black mail everybody.

All the best

 

[RVR]

Well said Sri RVR ji,

Politically/legally, it's a very interesting case and every one of us are curious to know the final outcome and all the under cover work that were carried out for the whole episode.....

Here I got a doubt. Will it be possible for us to accept without doubt, the forthcoming stories of this case and that will all be black and white for the public to agree or disagree??

As you have quoted in your previous post - "It’s more a moral and ethical issue"...., I agree 100% with you. A common man need to act smart for his own interest, knowing what divinity, spirituality and spiritual leadership is...

Ravi,

In most of the cases, the issues were closed abruptly without end result.

Please take the case of `Veerappan'. Veerappan was termed as an outlaw and special police team was formed to catch/kill him by two state governments.

While Veerappan was killed, no body is willing ask what happened to the money he collected by extortion and sandal wood smuggling.

Definitely Veerappan would not have let out Kannada Actor `Raj Kumar' without collecting substantial amount- may be hundreds of crores of rupees. Ex Karnataka DGP has writting a book on Veerappan-Raj kumar episode.

Now Nityanandan is caught and is behind bars. Deals have to be completed at appropriate levels for sharing the boot. The boot seems to exceed more than Rs.1000 crores.

Let us wait and see what happens in the future.

All the best

 

[renuka]

Renuka Karthikeyan said `Please dont call anyone a sinner...none of us can call anyone that...'

I have not called any body sinner. I just said `may be a sinner'

I think no further clarifications are required

All the best

Dear RVR anna...

On technical grounds you are right...
Good point..really holds good in the court of law..
I have to admit..you are really a smart guy anna..

renu

 

[sankara_sharmah]

This problem has been a part of Hinduism for long. Swaminarayan of Gujarat was one of the earliest Godmen. Today there are millions of followers of Lord Swaminarayan. Swaminarayan Movement it is called now. Osho (Rajaneesh) was extermely controversial. Today the Tamil Anmika magazines carry quotes from his writings. I have mentioned only two. But there are countless others. These Godmen/women have acquired a dedicated following over the years. Many of them have also been forgotten.

Does any one remember Pandrimalai Swamigal who was the rage in the 1970s in Tamil Nadu? Or Rama Devi who has a number of temples dedicated to her in Kerala and Karnataka.

 

[C RAVI]

Dear RVR anna...

Please dont call anyone a sinner...none of us can call anyone that...
Dont be to obssesed with goodness..
Too much Sattva also falls under Rajas..becos we tend to become judgemental..

anna..I will tell you something..when i was a bit younger i used to get disgusted when i see women misbehaving with man in an indecent manner..now i dont feel that way becos i feel i am no one to judge another..there is always a stop check sort of thinking in my mind..

now when i see such things i recently saw once when i was out shopping ..i was tempted to feel disgusted but i checked myself..a few questions came to my mind..

Is there God in her now?
my answer was Yes..

Do you think she is 100% bad?
My answer is No..she surely has some goodness in her too.

Then i just smiled at her and walked away..I felt so much better when i realized that I saw God even in an indecent act...

try thinking like me sometimes too...


renu

Dr.Renuka ji,

I believe, we all unanimously consider that, fighting against evil is our dharma to sustain our self and have a healthy society..

We certainly should not be personally judgmental to some one's personal behaviors, attitude, preferences etc...etc..But the same can not be applied when a society at large is in stake.

If we ignore to be reasonably judgmental, we would simply be allowing our self to succumb to evil forces of the society.

We as a group in our society are tend to protest against any thing wrong, joining hands together for the benefits of each other..

If we don’t voice our views and protest, political corruptions can not be lessened, our religion can not be sustained, crimes can not be controlled, divinity and spirituality can not be maintained and understood perfectly by the future generation, etc...etc..If we keep quiet, closing our eyes and looking God through our sub-conscious mind, in every miscreants (imposing negative impacts on the society), do you think we can have a healthy society to live?

So, I believe, by voicing the concerns, one can not be considered as obsessed with one's goodness, behaving like Avataara Purusha of the Bhoo Logam to establish dharma and is obsessed with hatred.....As long as other personalities are not dragged in this case, there in nothing wrong to highlight here, the latest developments and the formal reports of the case through media and discussing on them.

 

[sapthajihva]

I saw some videos of the puttaparthi man giving vibhuthis, as if out of nowhere... really felt sympathetic with the audience, as they had so much (problems or otherwise) in their mind that they did not see through the cheats...

The icing on the cake was the lingam from the mouth...:doh: it was disgusting to look at.. then as I noticed the expression of the man who was said to be god, I went into fits of laughter... We are supposed to believe that he produced a gold lingam, out of his magical/miraculous powers, within his belly, and then had to vomit it out for us to see and rejoice...

I wonder why he couldn't put his had directly inside his stomach and take out the lingam... After all, if he can produce it there, this is not asking too much...!!!

 

[renuka]

Renuka Karthikeyan said `Please dont call anyone a sinner...none of us can call anyone that...'

I have not called any body sinner. I just said `may be a sinner'

I think no further clarifications are required

All the best

Dear RVR anna...

I was thinking of the word may be...
May be is a word used when we are not too sure..when there might be a benefit of the doubt...

So if its only "May Be"...then why go through all the trouble of even starting this thread ?

 

[renuka]

I saw some videos of the puttaparthi man giving vibhuthis, as if out of nowhere... really felt sympathetic with the audience, as they had so much (problems or otherwise) in their mind that they did not see through the cheats...

The icing on the cake was the lingam from the mouth...:doh: it was disgusting to look at.. then as I noticed the expression of the man who was said to be god, I went into fits of laughter... We are supposed to believe that he produced a gold lingam, out of his magical/miraculous powers, within his belly, and then had to vomit it out for us to see and rejoice...

I wonder why he couldn't put his had directly inside his stomach and take out the lingam... After all, if he can produce it there, this is not asking too much...!!!

i just have a oneliner for this..

Pashyannapi Na Pashyanti Muddho...

 

[renuka]

Dr.Renuka ji,

I believe, we all unanimously consider that, fighting against evil is our dharma to sustain our self and have a healthy society..

We certainly should not be personally judgmental to some one's personal behaviors, attitude, preferences etc...etc..But the same can not be applied when a society at large is in stake.

If we ignore to be reasonably judgmental, we would simply be allowing our self to succumb to evil forces of the society.

We as a group in our society are tend to protest against any thing wrong, joining hands together for the benefits of each other..

If we don’t voice our views and protest, political corruptions can not be lessened, our religion can not be sustained, crimes can not be controlled, divinity and spirituality can not be maintained and understood perfectly by the future generation, etc...etc..If we keep quiet, closing our eyes and looking God through our sub-conscious mind, in every miscreants (imposing negative impacts on the society), do you think we can have a healthy society to live?

So, I believe, by voicing the concerns, one can not be considered as obsessed with one's goodness, behaving like Avataara Purusha of the Bhoo Logam to establish dharma and is obsessed with hatred.....As long as other personalities are not dragged in this case, there in nothing wrong to highlight here, the latest developments and the formal reports of the case through media and discussing on them.

Dear Ravi..

An avatarapurusha is not obsessed with goodness..its a desireless desire to establish dharma...every action of an avatarapurusha even which might apear as if doing good is actually actionless only..neither good nor bad or even intermediate...
The actions of an avatarapurusha do not bind and does not cause karma...

being too Sattva binds too..
Tamas binds with a iron chain
Rajas binds with a silver chain
Sattva binds with a gold chain

what difference does it make..at the end of the day..a chain is a chain..

So we have to breakfree from this world..God knows..God knows I want to break free...

YouTube - Queen - I want to break free

 

[nachi naga]

manifestng by a avataram is natural.skeptics were there even during lord krishnas days.when lord krishna picked the mountain with his pinky finger,sirs,i do not remember it from my poorva janmam.owing to discourses ,owing to reading of puranams,i believe what lord krishna did as a leela.i have seen vibhuthi manifesting on pictures of gods,on idols of gods,on books...etc not only vibhuthi but also kumkumum,manjal,akshadais,honey from nowhere baffling us. http://vimeo.com/6237477 money in mailbox,miracles of un-beliavable proportions,only sathya sai baba does out of prema sathya ananda dharma shanthi ahimsa,for us.to ridicule a maha-purusha like bhagvan sathya sai baba,is a leela done by sathya sai baba himself,for reasons known best to him.swami is divine so are all of us,including sapthajihva,rvr

 

[navy-eswaran]

dear members,
i am not qualified enough to comment on the issue as i know nothing about religion.
however as we(the public) are cornered by so many problems, we try to seek solace from wherever possible. most of the time we end up with dud samis and hang our head in shame.
let us hope for the best sami to arrive!!!
regards
eswaran

 

[N.R.Ranganathan]

spiritual frauds

Dear Renukaji,

Lord Krishna calls it ' sarvaatmabhaava', when differences vanish.
You are in deed fortunate to reach that state. Very good.

 

[Siddhanta]

Dr.Renuka ji,

I believe, we all unanimously consider that, fighting against evil is our dharma to sustain our self and have a healthy society..

We certainly should not be personally judgmental to some one's personal behaviors, attitude, preferences etc...etc..But the same can not be applied when a society at large is in stake.

If we ignore to be reasonably judgmental, we would simply be allowing our self to succumb to evil forces of the society.

We as a group in our society are tend to protest against any thing wrong, joining hands together for the benefits of each other..

If we don’t voice our views and protest, political corruptions can not be lessened, our religion can not be sustained, crimes can not be controlled, divinity and spirituality can not be maintained and understood perfectly by the future generation, etc...etc..If we keep quiet, closing our eyes and looking God through our sub-conscious mind, in every miscreants (imposing negative impacts on the society), do you think we can have a healthy society to live?

So, I believe, by voicing the concerns, one can not be considered as obsessed with one's goodness, behaving like Avataara Purusha of the Bhoo Logam to establish dharma and is obsessed with hatred.....As long as other personalities are not dragged in this case, there in nothing wrong to highlight here, the latest developments and the formal reports of the case through media and discussing on them.

My Applause Mr. C. Ravi,

I admire your views on our dharma.

However Renukarthikeyan's views seems to be disoriented from our dharma and karma and more inclined towards the modern religious principles.

If we see something wrong and if we are unable to do anything about it, then i suppose it does not affect Karma or Dharma. But promoting something which is wrong sure affects these two.

According to my research, since the beginning of Kaeli Yuga, anyone who claimed or being given the title of Spiritual Man or Woman does not follow the Vedas at all. They twist them in terrible ways to suit their needs. Vedas is the basis of our life. In other words these "spiritual frauds" are only simply diverting us from our Vedic system of life. Very few realise this.

 

[sapthajihva]

...
i am not qualified enough to comment on the issue as i know nothing about religion.
...

Dear sir, that is probably, one of the greatest qualifications in this yuga, that you could verily become god himself; well if not god, then at least a godman...

In fact, to be a godman, one need not know anything at all... guess, it is all 'behind the scenes' work... what with modern technology....

Regards,

 

[renuka]

My Applause Mr. C. Ravi,

I admire your views on our dharma.

However Renukarthikeyan's views seems to be disoriented from our dharma and karma and more inclined towards the modern religious principles.

If we see something wrong and if we are unable to do anything about it, then i suppose it does not affect Karma or Dharma. But promoting something which is wrong sure affects these two.

According to my research, since the beginning of Kaeli Yuga, anyone who claimed or being given the title of Spiritual Man or Woman does not follow the Vedas at all. They twist them in terrible ways to suit their needs. Vedas is the basis of our life. In other words these "spiritual frauds" are only simply diverting us from our Vedic system of life. Very few realise this.

Dear sir...

I get my info and belives from certified true and bonafide text like:

• Bhagavad Gita
• Avadhuta Gita(read the thread i started in this forum)
• Various Upanishads
• Guru Gita
• my innate nature( there are still faults in me to rectify before i can judge others)

Its not a modern view..but an Eternal View..
Modern view is being judgemental and failing to see ones owns fault( as potrayed by inhabitants of the era called Kaliyuga..)


see you just used the word "Our Dharma and Karma"..Dharma is not anyones or even yours..Dharma is eternal..only Karma is ours/yours..

thinking on the lines of dwanda teetham trigunarahitam is not modern but really ancient..infact eternal.....

After all didnt Jesus also say Let He Who Is Without Sin Cast The First Stone

 

[nachi naga]

renu

plz don't quote jesus,as i am afraid,he was murdered by jew's becoz of his miraculous powers,and he taught the vedas and vedic truth to jews,and people in power could not tolerate him.we all know who has miraculous power in parthi ,in fact swami say's he is the father who jesus was referring in his sermons

 

[Siddhanta]

Dear sir...

I get my info and belives from certified true and bonafide text like:

• Bhagavad Gita
• Avadhuta Gita(read the thread i started in this forum)
• Various Upanishads
• Guru Gita
• my innate nature( there are still faults in me to rectify before i can judge others)

Its not a modern view..but an Eternal View..
Modern view is being judgemental and failing to see ones owns fault( as potrayed by inhabitants of the era called Kaliyuga..)


see you just used the word "Our Dharma and Karma"..Dharma is not anyones or even yours..Dharma is eternal..only Karma is ours/yours..

thinking on the lines of dwanda teetham trigunarahitam is not modern but really ancient..infact eternal.....

After all didnt Jesus also say Let He Who Is Without Sin Cast The First Stone

The Gita and Upanishads were originally composed in sanskrit. The translations were done and they were a lot more twisted to suit individual needs.

The Krishna Conciousness translations i have read all serve their own purposes. They say Jesus and Krishna preached the same yet they have nothing in common in reality. But if they say Krishna contradicts Jesus, you know that in today's world nobody could get popular. Even for telling this, i could be banned from this forum!

So to become popular people use their own views on translations. For example, consider the following translation from a verse in Rig Veda.

" Agni ...is one whose food is the ox and the barren cow".​

The more accurate translation was, " Let us serve Agni with our hymns, disposer, fed on ox and cow, who bears the soma on his back" and its meaning was “Agni can dispose of any wealth, ox and cow used to be the symbol of wealth.”​

The other wrong translation is “Cow was cut up with a sword or an axe". But the more accurate quotation was, " Agni, hast thou committed sin or treason among the Gods? In ignorance I ask thee, playing, not playing, he gold-hued and toothless hath cut his food up as the knife a victim"​

The translations were done by different people including Indians and Hindu traitors to serve purposes of their own. The above wrong translation was done to establish that ancient Hindus cut cows and ate them which were never correct under any sense of Hindu Logic and Vedas. This is just an example.​

 

[Siddhanta]

see you just used the word "Our Dharma and Karma"..Dharma is not anyones or even yours..Dharma is eternal..only Karma is ours/yours..

I do not understand what you are proposing really.

Dharma, Karma both are universal and eternal according to the Vedas.

Kindly refer to Pages 67 and 72 of my research report on Kaeli Yuga, Spiritual Frauds and Vedic decline.

Here is the link.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/30338404/Mind-Control-and-Aliens-the-Suppressed-Knowledge-Volume-2

Thanks

 

[renuka]

The Gita and Upanishads were originally composed in sanskrit. The translations were done and they were a lot more twisted to suit individual needs.

The Krishna Conciousness translations i have read all serve their own purposes. They say Jesus and Krishna preached the same yet they have nothing in common in reality. But if they say Krishna contradicts Jesus, you know that in today's world nobody could get popular. Even for telling this, i could be banned from this forum!

So to become popular people use their own views on translations. For example, consider the following translation from a verse in Rig Veda.

" Agni ...is one whose food is the ox and the barren cow".​

The more accurate translation was, " Let us serve Agni with our hymns, disposer, fed on ox and cow, who bears the soma on his back" and its meaning was “Agni can dispose of any wealth, ox and cow used to be the symbol of wealth.”​

The other wrong translation is “Cow was cut up with a sword or an axe". But the more accurate quotation was, " Agni, hast thou committed sin or treason among the Gods? In ignorance I ask thee, playing, not playing, he gold-hued and toothless hath cut his food up as the knife a victim"​

The translations were done by different people including Indians and Hindu traitors to serve purposes of their own. The above wrong translation was done to establish that ancient Hindus cut cows and ate them which were never correct under any sense of Hindu Logic and Vedas. This is just an example.​

Dear Sir...

I fully agree with you about the translations..thats the reason why I learnt sanskrit and read the above text in sanskrit only...

I am very aware of wrong meanings, thats the reason why i stick to only bonafide authors...
Even in Devi Mahatmyam ...I was suprised to read a total wrong intepratation and also in a very famous translated Bhagavad Gita..the Karmanyevadhikaraste maa Phaleshu kadacana stanza was totally wrongly explained..
I am glad that i managed to learn sanskrit all by myself through the grace of God and really enjoy the nectar of Sananthana Dharma in its full glory..I am no Vidhwan but i enjoy reading religous text..

 

[renuka]

I do not understand what you are proposing really.

Dharma, Karma both are universal and eternal according to the Vedas.

Kindly refer to Pages 67 and 72 of my research report on Kaeli Yuga, Spiritual Frauds and Vedic decline.

Here is the link.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/30338404/Mind-Control-and-Aliens-the-Suppressed-Knowledge-Volume-2

Thanks

Der sir..

what i am trying to say is :

• Does dharma really belong to us?
• We are only advised to follow prescribed Dharma.
• When you follow something..you obviously dont own it..
• even the word svadharma is just to denote ones prescribed dharma which should be preferably followed..and no compulsion because in Sanathana Dharma there is no compulsion.
• Dharma is eternal..as long as dualities still exist..
• When Dualities cease to exists..even Dharma ceases to exist as it had already served the purpose...
• Karma is not eternal..
• Karma ceases to exist in a Jeevan Muktha and in an individual who has attained liberation after death.
• Karma is like seeds..that sprout from janma to janma
• Fry the seeds of Karma so that they will not sprout again...
• So..karma will cease exist one day too..hence not eternal

i feel this describes the best .... true eternal state;

1)I am not mind, nor intellect, nor ego,
nor the reflections of inner self (chitta). I am not the five senses. I am beyond that.
I am not the ether, nor the earth,
nor the fire, nor the wind (the five elements).
I am indeed,
That eternal knowing and bliss, Shiva,
love and pure consciousness.

2)Neither can I be termed as energy (prana),
nor five types of breath (vayus),
nor the seven material essences,
nor the five coverings (pancha-kosha).
Neither am I the five instruments of elimination,
procreation, motion, grasping, or speaking.
I am indeed,
That eternal knowing and bliss, Shiva,
love and pure consciousness.

3)I have no hatred or dislike,
nor affiliation or liking,
nor greed,
nor delusion,
nor pride or haughtiness,
nor feelings of envy or jealousy.
I have no duty (dharma),
nor any money,
nor any desire (kama),
nor even liberation (moksha).
I am indeed,
That eternal knowing and bliss, Shiva,
love and pure consciousness.
4)I have neither merit (virtue),
nor demerit (vice).
I do not commit sins or good deeds,
nor have happiness or sorrow,
pain or pleasure.
I do not need mantras, holy places,
scriptures (Vedas), rituals or sacrifices (yagnas).
I am none of the triad of
the observer or one who experiences,
the process of observing or experiencing,
or any object being observed or experienced.
I am indeed,
That eternal knowing and bliss, Shiva,
love and pure consciousness.

5)I do not have fear of death,
as I do not have death.
I have no separation from my true self,
no doubt about my existence,
nor have I discrimination on the basis of birth.
I have no father or mother,
nor did I have a birth.
I am not the relative,
nor the friend,
nor the guru,
nor the disciple.
I am indeed,
That eternal knowing and bliss, Shiva,
love and pure consciousness.

6)I am all pervasive.
I am without any attributes,
and without any form.
I have neither attachment to the world,
nor to liberation (mukti).
I have no wishes for anything
because I am everything,
everywhere,
every time,
always in equilibrium.
I am indeed,
That eternal knowing and bliss, Shiva,
love and pure consciousness.

Sanskrit:
Mano Buddhi Ahankara Chitta Ninaham
Nacha Shrotra Jihve Na Cha Ghrana Netre
Nacha Vyoma Bhoomir Na Tejo Na Vayu
Chidananda Rupa Shivoham Shivoham
Na Cha Prana Samjno Na Vai Pancha Vayu
Na Va Saptadhatur Na Va Pancha Koshah
Na Vak Pani Padau Na Chopastha Payu
Chidananda Rupa Shivoham Shivoham
Na Me Dvesha Ragau Na Me Lobha Mohau
Mado Naiva Me Naiva Matsarya Bhavah
Na Dharmo Na Chartho Na Kamo Na Mokshah
Chidananda Rupa Shivoham Shivoham
Na Punyam Na Papam Na Saukhyam Na Dukham
Na Mantro Na Teertham Na Vedo Na Yajnaha
Aham Bhojanam Naiva Bhojyam Na Bhokta
Chidananda Rupa Shivoham Shivoham
Na Me Mrityu Shanka Na Me Jati Bhedah
Pita Naiva Me Naiva Mata Na Janma
Na Bandhur Na Mitram Gurur Naiva Shishyah
Chidananda Rupa Shivoham Shivoham
Aham Nirvikalpo Nirakara Roopaha
Vibhur Vyapya Sarvatra Sarvendriyanam
Sada Me Samatvam Na Muktir Na Bandhah
Chidananda Rupa Shivoham Shivoham


YouTube - CHIDANANDA ROOPAH SHIVOHAM by Pandit Jasraj Shiv Upasana Vol 3


renu

 

[Nara]

.....Punishment seems to be harsh at a minimum of seven and half years.

This seems an absolute disgrace if you ask me, 7.5 years for rape, that is practically a slap on the wrist. A society that says to a woman that her modesty is more precious than her own life, says to one who violates it in the most violent manner that the punishment is about the same as what an inanimate planet called Saturn will visit upon an innocent person minding his own business.

But to the best of my knowledge, no women has given rape complaint against Nityanandan.

I was only wondering about how IPC treats rape, it has nothing to do with what really happened between Nithi nad his paramour. That is none of my business.

Cheers!

 

[nachi naga]

who are the parent's of lord shiva & parvathy?Who are the parent's of lord vishnu & Maha lakshmi?Who are the Parent's of Lord Brahma & Mahasaraswathy?Can all of them be called saguna brahman?

 

[RVR]

I do not understand what you are proposing really.

Dharma, Karma both are universal and eternal according to the Vedas.

Kindly refer to Pages 67 and 72 of my research report on Kaeli Yuga, Spiritual Frauds and Vedic decline.

Here is the link.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/30338404/Mind-Control-and-Aliens-the-Suppressed-Knowledge-Volume-2

Thanks

Sri Siddhantha,

You seems to be doing wonderful research. Do you have a hard copy of your research work? If not, can you photocopy and send it to me. I shall bear the cost.

I am very much interested in your research publications.

All the best