Spiritual Frauds

[RVR]

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All the best

 

[Siddhanta]

Sri Siddhantha,

You seems to be doing wonderful research. Do you have a hard copy of your research work? If not, can you photocopy and send it to me. I shall bear the cost.

I am very much interested in your research publications.

All the best

Sir,

I am very happy that you are interested in this research on Vedas.

I love to publish this research report, but since it publicly and francly explains about Religions and personalities, i guess it would not be accepted by the general public, government and politics. We all know how our government banned the movie "Da Vinci Code". Over the internet my research report is safe.

I do not have a hard copy, but i could make print outs and courier it to you. Kindly send me a PM and i could do it at my own cost.

Thanks and Regards.

 

[renuka]

Dear Siddhanta....

I went through your research..Your overall good info got marred for being so cock sure of those you listed as fraud...and why are you seeing so much difference between those who follow the Vedas or any other religous text?

Ekam Sat Viprah Bahuda Vadanti...
Ekoham Bahusyam
Ekam Eva Advaitam Brahman...

Vedas is universal..It not the monopoly of anyone....
Sanathana Dharma is for the whole world.
You are using the word Hindu Gods...
There are no multiple gods..God is only One..His Forms are many..
Sanathana Dharma is not Polytheist..Its just interprated in many ways..
There is only One..two is One occuring twice..

Thats what i am saying...try not to judge others too much.....
Sanathana Dharma is all about love and not hate...

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[Raghy]

Personaly I agree with Sow.Renuka's views when it comes to deciding what is dharmam and what is adharmam. It is wrong to judge from our point of view alone. For example, the meaning of morality amoung the youngsters differs from culture to culture, country to country. But there are certain golden rules applicable in every country and every society. Such golden rules to uphold the humanity are essential. I can see where Sow. Renuka comes from, having exposure to Hindu culture in a country other than India.

Cheers!

 

[Siddhanta]

why are you seeing so much difference between those who follow the Vedas or any other religous text?

I observe the difference between our way of life in the Treta, Dwapara yugas as described in Ramayana and Mahabharatha and the present Kaeli Yuga. The difference is obvious and even this difference is correctly explained in the Vedas. The Vedas explained the structure of our solar system and the universe thousands of years back, theoretically it is millions of years and timeless. Yet in Europe, in the name of "Religion" people were taught that the Earth is flat and those who had different views were burnt alive. This is how they tamed people into accepting their "Religions" and their "Religious Texts". Then how could i not see the difference between the Vedas and other religious texts? The Mughals converted a lot of Hindus into Muslims forcefully and they could not be converted back again today. I am realy sorry, but i cannot accept what you are willing to accept knowing it is wrong.

Lord Krishna, the Avatar of Lord Vishnu told this:

"Whenever and wherever there is a decline in religious practice, O descendant of Bharata, and a predominant rise of irreligion — at that time I descend Myself."

Lord Vishnu himself knew that there will be a decline in our way of life at this time.

 

[renuka]

I observe the difference between our way of life in the Treta, Dwapara yugas as described in Ramayana and Mahabharatha and the present Kaeli Yuga. The difference is obvious and even this difference is correctly explained in the Vedas. The Vedas explained the structure of our solar system and the universe thousands of years back, theoretically it is millions of years and timeless. Yet in Europe, in the name of "Religion" people were taught that the Earth is flat and those who had different views were burnt alive. This is how they tamed people into accepting their "Religions" and their "Religious Texts". Then how could i not see the difference between the Vedas and other religious texts? The Mughals converted a lot of Hindus into Muslims forcefully and they could not be converted back again today. I am realy sorry, but i do not accept what you are willing to accept knowing it is wrong.

Lord Krishna, the Avatar of Lord Vishnu told this:

"Whenever and wherever there is a decline in religious practice, O descendant of Bharata, and a predominant rise of irreligion — at that time I descend Myself."

Lord Vishnu himself knew that there will be a decline in our way of life at this time.

Dear sir..yes i agree with you at the same time disagree..
see we Hindus have an advantage of having the oppurtunity to use our manas and buddhi to decide right and wrong..thats our viveka..
many other religions do not have this benefit..they have the "Ba Ba Black Sheep" Syndrome where all they say is "Yes Sir..Yes Sir Three Bags Full"..

Ok..God did say Yada Yada Hi Dharmasya..i agree..
But why do have to wait for a decline and wait for a saviour..?
Arent we having innate divinty ourselves..Its up to us to heal the world.. to make it a better place..for you and me and the entire human race..(as sung by Michael Jackson)..

There is no harm following a Vedic lifestyle as long Pride and Prejudice does not take over us....
Yes... codes of Dharma differs from Yuga to Yuga..
But Satyam Vada,Dharmam Cara has never gone outdated..
Every religion in this world advocates this..may be in different ways..thats all...


i am not accepting wrong..neither am i saying I am right..I am also learning to be beyond right and wrong..

Comparing and contrasting various religions sometimes is like comparing apples and oranges..I try not to see it that way..If we look deeper we will realize its not really apples and oranges but the similarity of it being fruits..

Love all..Hate never..
You do not even need to think and judge other religions..Sanathana Dharma is more than enough..
Dive the sea of samsara to reach the pearl within..ignore the turbulent waves..buts its ok to get tossed once in a while..its makes you swim with stronger strokes..

 

[RVR]

Sri Siddhanta,

Have you done any research on how and why people are attracted to fraudulent God men.

Is it lack of self confidence?

If some body can bring `mango fruits' out of `mantra', let him do `mango business' and prosper. Personally I have no problem.

But if he starts doing `spiritual business' with the same, it is a big problem for our religion as well as society at large. He exploits innocent public and makes much bigger money than `mango business'.

Why don't you do some research and publish for the benefit of society at large.

All the best

 

[renuka]

dear all...

That from which all speech with the mind turns away,not having reached It,knowing the bliss of that Brahman man fears nothing.Verily the thought Why have I not done the right? Why have I done wrong?does not of course torment such a one.He who is a comprehenser(Vidvaan) in the manner described above redeems his Self from both these thoughts.for truly he who knows this redeems himself from both.Such is this secret instruction.

lesson nine
Taittiriyopanishad

 

[renuka]

dear all..

If one is attracted to a spiritual Guru its only normal..
as the saying goes Mata,Pita,Guru,Deivam
Matr devo bhava,Pitr devo bhava,archarya devo bhava,atithi devo bhava...

For those obsessed with why others think so..there is a medical condition..

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder..

 

[C RAVI]

I would be extremely happy, IF....

Some one carries out the research work and come out with authentic findings on -

01) Whether GOD exits?
02) If GOD exists, whether there is only 1 GOD or there are multiple GODs?
03) If GOD exists, what are the possibilities of visualizing GOD?
04) If GOD exists, whether GOD rules every one of us
05) If GOD rules every one of us, than why we are blaming each other?
06) If GOD does not rule any of us, than why we surrender to GOD, at least at some point of time?
07) If GOD does not exist, can we stop spending money on constructing "Places of Worship"?
08) If GOD does not exist, can we stop solemnizing occasions and avoid spending money?
09) If GOD does not exist, can we stop believing Karmam, Dharmam, Papam, Punyam?
10) If GOD does not exist, can we stop bothering liberating our soul?

If we could establish all the above through scientific research findings, I think, only than Human Species can survive as Humans.

 

[renuka]

I would be extremely happy, IF....

Some one carries out the research work and come out with authentic findings on -

01) Whether GOD exits?
02) If GOD exists, whether there is only 1 GOD or there are multiple GODs?
03) If GOD exists, what are the possibilities of visualizing GOD?
04) If GOD exists, whether GOD rules every one of us
05) If GOD rules every one of us, than why we are blaming each other?
06) If GOD does not rule any of us, than why we surrender to GOD, at least at some point of time?
07) If GOD does not exist, can we stop spending money on constructing "Places of Worship"?
08) If GOD does not exist, can we stop solemnizing occasions and avoid spending money?
09) If GOD does not exist, can we stop believing Karmam, Dharmam, Papam, Punyam?
10) If GOD does not exist, can we stop bothering liberating our soul?

If we could establish all the above through scientific research findings, I think, only than Human Species can survive as Humans.

1. GOD.. Generation(G),Organization(O) and Dissolution(D) occurs every moment at a microscopic and macroscopic level...(GOD) exists..
2. Ekam Sat Viprah Bahuda Vadanti
3. See within but not with your eyes
4. God neither rules nor lets go of us...Is we who try to rule God by expecting Him to answer each prayer..
5. Its our Ahamkara that blames each other..
6. We only surrender to ourselves eventually as its Aham Brahmaasmi.
7. Why do you need a place of worship when we are a walking abode of God..no money to spend..free of charge..
8. Who is stopping us?
9. You can stop beleiving in Karma,Dharma,Punya ,Papam..cos we are Chidananda Roopa Shivoham Shivoham..
   Na Punyam,Na Papam,Na Karmam,Na Dharmam..Chidananda Roopa Shivoham Shivoham​
10. When we are liberated, the Saguna GOD does not exists..verily only Brahman remains..​

 

[Siddhanta]

Our Universe is multi dimensional according to the Vedas. There are fourteen dimensions.

Satyaloka ~ (Lord Brahma and the most advanced Sages)
Tapoloka ~ (even more advanced Sages)
Janaloka ~ (more advanced Sages)
Maharloka ~ (Sages)
Svar(ga)loka ~ (Devas)
Bhuvarloka ~ (lesser Devas)​

Bhu(r)loka (Earth) ~ (humans)

Atala ~ (lesser Asuras)
Vitala ~ (Asuras)
Sutala ~ (Bali Maharaja and other demons)
Talatala ~ (Maya Danava and other demons)
Mahatala ~ (lesser serpents)
Rasatala ~ (demons)​

Patala or Nagaloka ~ (serpents)

Lord Vishnu resides in Vaikunta and Lord Shiva in Kailasha.

Throughout the Yugas, Earth transits from the Satya Loka to Patalaloka and the influence of these lokhas are felt on Earth and humans. In the Satyalokha and higher dimensional planes, the Gods had their influence on Earth. After the beginning of Kaeli Yuga we were in Atala Vitala and Sutala dimensional influence in which the asuras had their impact felt by brute force conversions.

But now presently we are in the influence of Talatala dimensional plane where the conversion would be done by mind control and illusion(by invisible forces seen as aliens but they are Residents of Talatala and lower dimensional planes). According to the Vedas, Maya Dhanava is a master intellect, an illusionist of mind control. We are now under his influence. So he gives cetain people the power to control people's minds effectively to depart from the Vedic life. Hence we see so many spiritual frauds. This is explained in my research.

Also we see everywhere people preaching, talking a lot, and trying to give up the Vedas by using tactics of mind control, illusion and disguises. Some use insulting and abusive tactics to achieve their goal. Those people's souls which are naturally resonant with the Gods do not get impressed by this and materialism.

 

[renuka]

Dear all..

When Draupadi called out to Lord Krishna..He responded instantly when she cried "O Hrdaya Vaasi"...

All other cries of hers... "Mathura Vaasi,Brindavana Sanchaari" took some time..

 

[C RAVI]

Dr Renuka ji,

wah wah...bahuth khoob..bahuth khoob...

kadhar karthay hain hum aapki
aapki jo pehchaan hai
kadhar karthay hain hum aapki
aapki jo gyaan hai.

Apne Ishwar ki chaahath maey
dil khoya hai aapney
Apne khoob surath andaazoan may
dil churaya hai aapney..



Devi,

Your research findings were much expected the way you have presented...Hats off to you.

Most of your findings, were all in the same lines as how I used to believe myself, put questions to my mother and answer myself to her during my did 20's....

The purpose of my posting, seeking research findings were to have them as an outcome of authenticated scientific research work, approved and validated.

I was expecting such scientific findings from some of the people who are scientifically inclined and keen in scientific validity for each of the things with which we humans beings are associating our self globally. Global Scientific Validity would be approved by globally living human beings, IF possible.

 

[RVR]

dear all..

If one is attracted to a spiritual Guru its only normal..
as the saying goes Mata,Pita,Guru,Deivam
Matr devo bhava,Pitr devo bhava,archarya devo bhava,atithi devo bhava...

For those obsessed with why others think so..there is a medical condition..

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder..

Every member of TB community has his own traditional Guru. Followers of all Smartha, Vaishava and Madhva community members have their own hereditary Acharyas and none of us are disrespecting them.

In addition to the above, the person who does Brahmopadesam to a brahmin boy is considered as his Guru. Personally I didn't obtain Brahmopadesam from my father and I always keep my relative who did Brahmopadesam for me at high esteem at the position of `Guru'.

I have also seen other communities having their own hereditary Gurus. For example some of my vaishnavite friends not belonging to TB community visiting Srirengam to pay respect to their Acharyas.

The boy whom we recovered from Nityanandan was misguided and lost two years of his active life. Fortunately he is turning to normal life and is trying to join some job. Choosing a `psedo Guru' is the problem here.

If I am diagnised for having `Obsessive Compulsive Disorder' for criticizing Pseudo Gurus, then let it be.

All the best

 

[C RAVI]

Every member of TB community has his own traditional Guru. Followers of all Smartha, Vaishava and Madhva community members have their own hereditary Acharyas and none of us are disrespecting them.

In addition to the above, the person who does Brahmopadesam to a brahmin boy is considered as his Guru. Personally I didn't obtain Brahmopadesam from my father and I always keep my relative who did Brahmopadesam for me at high esteem at the position of `Guru'.

I have also seen other communities having their own hereditary Gurus. For example some of my vaishnavite friends not belonging to TB community visiting Srirengam to pay respect to their Acharyas.

The boy whom we recovered from Nityanandan was misguided and lost two years of his active life. Fortunately he is turning to normal life and is trying to join some job. Choosing a `psedo Guru' is the problem here.

If I am diagnised for having `Obsessive Compulsive Disorder' for criticizing Pseudo Gurus, then let it be.

All the best

Sri RVR ji,

Never mind.....

There are lots of obsessions with human folks...

Some are obsessed with GOD, and can not understand and accept the default & valid social responsibilities and behaviors.

Some are obsessed with GOD Men, and can not accept to differentiate the right one and the wrong one

Some are obsessed with Hating GOD men, and can not recognize and accept the True God man.

Some are obsessed with Love, Marriage and Family values....Might be its me... ound:

Some are obsessed with Sex

Some are obsessed with Money

Some are obsessed with Powers

Some are obsessed with Ego and

Some are obsessed with obsessions it self...


Never mind Sri RVR ji,

Because for sure,

"Obsessive Compulsive Disorder" & "Attentive Deficit and Hyper Active Disorder" are the part and parcel of every human being.

The only difference is, the presence of such disorders during certain stages of life, differs from individual to individual.

Cheer up, Sri RVR ji.......We all are same human beings...

 

[sapthajihva]

...........

If we could establish all the above through scientific research findings, I think, only than Human Species can survive as Humans.

The first question you should ask, before any of these, is - 'Why should life be?'

 

[sapthajihva]

One of my lecturers, during a discussion on godmen, told me that the man from puttaparthi probably uses hand gestures that many illusionists do. The lecturer was pretty convinced that the puttaparthi man used some mass illusion technique...

 

[renuka]

Every member of TB community has his own traditional Guru. Followers of all Smartha, Vaishava and Madhva community members have their own hereditary Acharyas and none of us are disrespecting them.

In addition to the above, the person who does Brahmopadesam to a brahmin boy is considered as his Guru. Personally I didn't obtain Brahmopadesam from my father and I always keep my relative who did Brahmopadesam for me at high esteem at the position of `Guru'.

I have also seen other communities having their own hereditary Gurus. For example some of my vaishnavite friends not belonging to TB community visiting Srirengam to pay respect to their Acharyas.

The boy whom we recovered from Nityanandan was misguided and lost two years of his active life. Fortunately he is turning to normal life and is trying to join some job. Choosing a `psedo Guru' is the problem here.

If I am diagnised for having `Obsessive Compulsive Disorder' for criticizing Pseudo Gurus, then let it be.

All the best

Dear RVR anna...

I am sorry if i hurt your feelings...
Ravi is right..all of us are obsessed with something in life..eg Ravi is obsessed with Love and ...(I cant write it here)..

Well I also may be having an obsession to see all as the same whether good or bad.

Please forgive me ...if i offended you....

renu

 

[C RAVI]

The first question you should ask, before any of these, is - 'Why should life be?'

Sri Sapthajihva ji,

I didn't ask this question first, because Scientific Researchers would say - Why the hell than you are asking us to come up with all those findings that you want to be approved and validated?? ound:

Basically I don't look for scientific validations for my spiritual growth.

But since some highly intellectual scientific scholars (Category I) flown on others who all have their belief and understanding in spirituality (Category II) , I just want to challenge them to come up with valid scientific findings, fool proof.

Why always Category I should put questions on Category II? Can't the later ever challenge the former??

 

[renuka]

One of my lecturers, during a discussion on godmen, told me that the man from puttaparthi probably uses hand gestures that many illusionists do. The lecturer was pretty convinced that the puttaparthi man used some mass illusion technique...

i wonder how a hand gesture could straighten my brothers deformed leg.
make my mothers brain tumour disappear.
and cure my fathers diabetes when he was supposed to be on Insulin..

Dear Baba...whatever you do..may be its illusion to some..
Well arent we all under the influence of the Cosmic Deluder..the Supreme Illusionist?

Maya manusha vesha leeladhara....

 

[sapthajihva]

...
I didn't ask this question first, because Scientific Researchers would say - Why the hell than you are asking us to come up with all those findings that you want to be approved and validated??

I dont understand the context of your statement...! Since you wanted validations, I hinted you to look at why life is so. Perhaps, I was wrong in conveying this.

... I just want to challenge them to come up with valid scientific findings, fool proof.

That is why you should conduct an inquiry yourself; none can do it for you...

Regards,

 

[C RAVI]

Ok Saar, I got the best possible response from highly intelectual scholar - Catergory I

 

[nachi naga]

i wonder how a hand gesture could straighten my brothers deformed leg.
make my mothers brain tumour disappear.
and cure my fathers diabetes when he was supposed to be on Insulin..

Dear Baba...whatever you do..may be its illusion to some..
Well arent we all under the influence of the Cosmic Deluder..the Supreme Illusionist?

Maya manusha vesha leeladhara....

baba is father,sai is mother.

writing good things about mom and dad,brings harmony in ones life.

renu,you are harmony and peace.

 

[renuka]

Dear nachi..

you wouldnt believe what happened today at my clinic..I had a patient a Bangaldeshi foreign worker and guess what ! He looked so much like Nithyananda..
I couldnt stop smiling...even the patient said I have seen so many doctors but you are so nice..you smile to your patients so nicely(poor guy did not know why i was smiling)..In fact i checked his passport details with my staff later as he looked so much like Nithya...

when he left ..i called my husband and could not stop laughing and told him..
see i felt so happy today..even a so called fraud lookalike made me happy..