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Dear nachi..

you wouldnt believe what happened today at my clinic..I had a patient a Bangaldeshi foreign worker and guess what ! He looked so much like Nithyananda..
I couldnt stop smiling...even the patient said I have seen so many doctors but you are so nice..you smile to your patients so nicely(poor guy did not know why i was smiling)..In fact i checked his passport details with my staff later as he looked so much like Nithya...

when he left ..i called my husband and could not stop laughing and told him..
see i felt so happy today..even a so called fraud lookalike made me happy..

renu

i read in archives,one of the erstwhile poster has written,maternity is a certainty while paternity is a probability,catch my drift :heh::loco:
 
The purpose of my posting, seeking research findings were to have them as an outcome of authenticated scientific research work, approved and validated.

I was expecting such scientific findings from some of the people who are scientifically inclined and keen in scientific validity for each of the things with which we humans beings are associating our self globally. Global Scientific Validity would be approved by globally living human beings, IF possible.

What do you say about the Aryan Invasion Theory? It is called a "theory" yet it is globally accepted as factual and introduced in our school and Graduate history studies.

There are a lot of anomalies reported around the World even which the present day science could not explain.

I found all the answers in the Vedas.

I care less about other people being interested in the Vedas or being interested in Sai Baba or Amritanandamayi. Being interested in the Vedas comes with nature. If anyone is interested, i feel happy. Those people who want to discard them have lost their attachment to the Gods. After knowing this, i wouldnt worry much about this.

Thanks and Regards.
 
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What do you say about the Aryan Invasion Theory? It is called a "theory" yet it is globally accepted as factual and introduced in our school and Graduate history studies.

There are a lot of anomalies reported around the World even which the present day science could not explain.

I found all the answers in the Vedas.

I care less about other people being interested in the Vedas or being interested in Sai Baba or Amritanandamayi. Being interested in the Vedas comes with nature. If anyone is interested, i feel happy. Those people who want to discard them have lost their attachment to the Gods. After knowing this, i wouldnt worry much about this.

Thanks and Regards.

Dear sir...
Good..you are on the right track..anothers choice is of no importance..each to his/her own is the best attitude anyone can adopt.

You are right... Vedas from the root word Vid is all about knowing the basis of our very existence..starting from mans first knowledge of the forces of nature..hence we will notice lots of prominence given to the forces of nature in the evolution of the Vedas for general well being of an individual and society..then we will notice an upward scale of understanding which focuses on the Saguna Brahman...then
Realization of the Atman where the 4 Mahavakyas summarize it all..


renu
 
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ayyangars by nature are deluded lot,as they seem to think exclusive species,even in a brahmin community.among the ayyangars the vadagalai and thengalai,issue even goes to how the elephant should be wearing a namam! and the new juicy bit i heard now is,that even in komanam wearing style and kudumis are an issue among the exclusive ayyangar brahmin community.dalits are human and i protest to even call people as dalits.they shud be called just as lord krishna has said,shudra - period.


It is Udayavar who was the first in giving them a divya namam "Thirukulathar" and entrusting them with kainkaryams for the Lord. Sri Ramanuja's heart was ever expansive.So let's not generalise street fights and attribute it to the group as a whole. As Swami vivekananda says, "The great Adishankara with his great intellect didn't have a heart
as great as Ramanuja, who like Sri Rama pressed the Pariah to his heart"
 
It is Udayavar who was the first in giving them a divya namam "Thirukulathar" and entrusting them with kainkaryams for the Lord. Sri Ramanuja's heart was ever expansive.So let's not generalise street fights and attribute it to the group as a whole. As Swami vivekananda says, "The great Adishankara with his great intellect didn't have a heart
as great as Ramanuja, who like Sri Rama pressed the Pariah to his heart"

ya right,we see how even a supposedly agnostic,atheists are fanatics of vaishnavism calling other believer's as something lesser than their faith.for this i dont have to drag any acharya's,as your post reveals the dirt,thats sticking.

fact of the matter is,vaishnava's are an arrogant lot(not the entire clan),who care two tuppence for other faith believer's who are inclusive of all,like the shaivaite's.so a vadagalai yaanai and thenkalai yaanai would be wondering,whats the hullaballoo about the vertical line's on their forehead's,when none of the believer's even know the latitude or longitude of kailasham,vaikundam,golokam etc,that is why advaitham teaches the truth correctly,when he & i are removed,what remains is the single truth,as truth.
 
Dear sir...
Good..you are on the right track..anothers choice is of no importance..each to his/her own is the best attitude anyone can adopt.

You are right... Vedas from the root word Vid is all about knowing the basis of our very existence..starting from mans first knowledge of the forces of nature..hence we will notice lots of prominence given to the forces of nature in the evolution of the Vedas for general well being of an individual and society..then we will notice an upward scale of understanding which focuses on the Saguna Brahman...then
Realization of the Atman where the 4 Mahavakyas summarize it all..


renu

I observe that you mostly promote those concepts in the Vedas WHICH do not include the Gods and Godesses.

Rather you promote selected few verses and Sai Baba. Yet you also mentioned another's choice is of no importance. I see your posts are just like how marketers provide advertisement for their products.

dear all...

i was listening to this song and felt so peaceful to hear this beautiful lyrics..
i just simply love this song..
i have put it a couple of times in the forum..but i still want to share it..

YouTube - Bhagwan Sri Satya Sai Baba- Wo phool na ab tak..

dear all..

this is another that will make u feel to take the next flight to puttaparthi...

YouTube - Sathya Sai Baba - song by Sumeet Tappoo

No offence. Just an observation.

According to your faith, ie you love all and hate none, you should not post a harsh or insulting reply in return, like how you mentioned about obsessions on spiritual frauds.

If one is attracted to a spiritual Guru its only normal..
as the saying goes Mata,Pita,Guru,Deivam
Matr devo bhava,Pitr devo bhava,archarya devo bhava,atithi devo bhava...

For those obsessed with why others think so..there is a medical condition..

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder..

You should also love the comments of RVR even though his view disagrees with yours and you should see your GOD in his OPINIONS as claimed by you in your previous posts.

anna..I will tell you something..when i was a bit younger i used to get disgusted when i see women misbehaving with man in an indecent manner..now i dont feel that way becos i feel i am no one to judge another..there is always a stop check sort of thinking in my mind..

now when i see such things i recently saw once when i was out shopping ..i was tempted to feel disgusted but i checked myself..a few questions came to my mind..

Is there God in her now?
my answer was Yes..

Do you think she is 100% bad?
My answer is No..she surely has some goodness in her too.

Then i just smiled at her and walked away..I felt so much better when i realized that I saw God even in an indecent act...

try thinking like me sometimes too...


renu

Thanks a lot.:pray:
 
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desires arise because of karma vasanas.transcending the karmas,will give sath chit ananda.the alternate is surrender to lord,if your are a dwaithi,and go to his abode,and this abode no one one exactly knows till today,where it is,as all these are human written abodes.delusion is the seperateness feeling existing in a jeevan,when all are just reflection of the nirguna brahman.just like ice snow water are all same constiuenting the same molecules,but owing to time temperature tension,they appear differently.oneness is the unifying athma for all.
 
I observe that you mostly promote those concepts in the Vedas WHICH do not include the Gods and Godesses.

Rather you promote selected few verses and Sai Baba. Yet you also mentioned another's choice is of no importance. I see your posts are just like how marketers provide advertisement for their products.



No offence. Just an observation.

According to your faith, ie you love all and hate none, you should not post a harsh or insulting reply in return, like how you mentioned about obsessions on spiritual frauds.



You should also love the comments of RVR even though his view disagrees with yours and you should see your GOD in his OPINIONS as claimed by you in your previous posts.



Thanks a lot.:pray:


Dear sir..didnt you see my post after that where I publically apologized to RVR anna...
RVR anna and I share a good relationship..but even then I realized that may be i offended him and I publicaly apologized here..

As a medical doctor I was stating my opinion about obssesion and did not direct it to RVR anna in specific as I did not mention his name in my post..

I apologized to him because he could have thought that I was hinting about him..I would never want to hurt anyones feeling directly or indirectly..In fact in my previous post many a times I have been telling not to be judgemental because that it self will deviate our thoughts from God as we will be suffused with negative vibes.. Thats all..

Regarding the songs and versed I posted ..I am not marketing Sathya Sai Baba..i was really enjoying the song and wanted to share it with everyone..I do it all the time here..not only religous songs but lots of funny and naughty one tooo in other thread..like I even dedicated to Ravi,amala etc En Peru Meena Kumari song..my favorite item number and lots of others too..

may be you dont know me well enough yet..I am a very carefree happy go lucky person who does not like to harbour ill feelings for anyone..I will not despise anyone who does not think in same lines with me...

Regarding me promoting concept of Vedas where its more on the Advaitic point of view..to tell you frankly..i dont have an Ishta Devata because as a child i always felt that God is One..all forms are His..so I try to look as every form as God only..everyform is equally potent..so it might look as if i dont favor the concept of God and Goddeses..
OK ..let me explain a little..the Male aspect of Divinity is the Static form of Paramaatma..the Feminine aspect of Divinity is the Dynamic form of Paramaatma..
Goddeses for eg Durga,Laxmi and Saraswathi are deified symbols of the 3 Gunas in Prakrithi...
Man have been offering prayers to these deified symbols to conquer the 3 gunas in our selves..

I prefer to read the hidden message of the Vedas..which is the Sarva Sara of our very existence..
Dont get me wrong..but I have a firm beleive in God..
Its just that it might differ..I learnt all forms of God are One form my son a few years ago..

i had bought some medallions(locket) of various deities Shiva,Vishnu,Krishna..and I gave it to him aged 7 then..
i told him to choose one..
He told me he wants all..I told him dont be greedy ..just take one..
He said this " I cant amma..everything is God here..how can you make me choose just one..its either I have all or have none"

That statement made me realize that all this years of praying..I still saw difference in the forms of God(even though I knew God is One)..
I was asking my son to make a choice..I realized then I was wrong and try not to see differences anymore..

I still pray daily..
My morning prayer but in a open space( not in prayer room) includes my daily recital of mantras and a few bhajans..
i dont show aarti..or make offering as I pray in an open place facing the sky..
I dont have an image in front of me either..but mental images do flood my mind on its own when i pray..I prefer that ..becos its not an artist impression.

At work in between patients I read religous text in Sanskrit daily without fail..and I share what i learn with others in the Forum..


before i end this post...this concept cannot go wrong;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfMs6gOlr-g
 
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People accept that the vedas form the basis of life. Also people accept this clearly and the fact that it contains the truth about the universe. It explained the structure of solar system long before the modern day science established it in the material age. So Vedas contain the truth and he Vedas could not be wrong.

If the Vedas are accepted as the truth why do people of today fail to see the Gods and Godesses of the Vedas? This should also be true. All the Gods have distinct physical forms and they serve various purposes. Going to a temple and worshipping Lord Hanuman and going around Him, would reduce the misfortune of a person being influenced by the evil planet Saturn. Worshipping Lord Muruga and Lord Ayyappa in temples would boost the mental strengths of a person who faces misfortune. Different Gods serve different purposes. Only if we learn the Vedas, we could learn about the greatness of all the Gods and Godesses and be attached to them.

People do not see the greatness of the Vedas, rather they are keenly interested in seeing the differences between the different Gods of the Vedas. Only when one is interested in "seeing" the difference between the Gods, they publicly promote that all Gods are one, and so and so. This is because they have NOT learnt the concept of the Vedas FULLY and CLEARLY. They read certain verses then and there and discard the Gods and Godesses.

When i read the Ramayana, Mahabharatha and our Vedas, i get attached to the different Gods and Godesses and see what they have done for humanity. Yet this humanity discard them today saying they are works of fiction. Even though the Bridge built by Lord Ram has its remains today and the submerged city of Dwaraka was discovered, yet people do not perceive the Gods and Godesses. Even if the Gods appear in front, would people really accept they are Gods or rather go after Sai Baba and Amritanandamayi?
 
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Dear sir..didnt you see my post after that where I publically apologized to RVR anna...
RVR anna and I share a good relationship..but even then I realized that may be i offended him and I publicaly apologized here..

As a medical doctor I was stating my opinion about obssesion and did not direct it to RVR anna in specific as I did not mention his name in my post..

Neither did i mention that your insult was directed at RVR.

I only mentioned that you made a harsh reply and quoted it.

Then i said you should see the GOD in RVR's opinion about Spiritual Frauds too.

Thanks and regards.
 
People accept that the vedas form the basis of life. Also people accept this clearly and the fact that it contains the truth about the universe. It explained the structure of solar system long before the modern day science established it in the material age. So Vedas contain the truth and he Vedas could not be wrong.

If the Vedas are accepted as the truth why do people of today fail to see the Gods and Godesses of the Vedas? This should also be true. All the Gods have distinct physical forms and they serve various purposes. Going to a temple and worshipping Lord Hanuman and going around Him, would reduce the misfortune of a person being influenced by the evil planet Saturn. Worshipping Lord Muruga and Lord Ayyappa in temples would boost the mental strengths of a person who faces misfortune. Different Gods serve different purposes. Only if we learn the Vedas, we could learn about the greatness of all the Gods and Godesses and be attached to them.

People do not see the greatness of the Vedas, rather they are keenly interested in seeing the differences between the different Gods of the Vedas. Only when one is interested in "seeing" the difference between the Gods, they publicly promote that all Gods are one, and so and so. This is because they have NOT learnt the concept of the Vedas FULLY and CLEARLY. They read certain verses then and there and discard the Gods and Godesses.

When i read the Ramayana, Mahabharatha and our Vedas, i get attached to the different Gods and Godesses and see what they have done for humanity. Yet this humanity discard them today saying they are works of fiction. Even though the Bridge built by Lord Ram has its remains today and the submerged city of Dwaraka was discovered, yet people do not perceive the Gods and Godesses. Even if the Gods appear in front, would people really accept they are Gods or rather go after Sai Baba and Amritanandamayi?


Dear sir...

Ekam Sat Viprah Bahuda Vadanti
Ekam Evaadvaitam Brahman...

It does not denote that Devas and Devis do not exists..
It just shows that Devas and Devis are mulitiple facets of God for the perfect functioning of the Cosmic Orchestra..

There is no harm in praying to specific devas or devis..
the choice is in our hands..and there is no harm surrendering to God and let Him decide what is the best for us..
Thats the reason why on a personal basis i dont pray for warding off any evil effect in my life...
I pray for the well being of the world and universe in the customary Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu..
so automatically everyone is included including me.

I feel everthing which happens is for the good only..thats why I let God decide the best for me as the sayin goes "Que Sera Sera..What will be will be"

If one has the Saranagatha attitude it does not mean one has not understood the Vedas....only from the Vedas one can even reach that state..

Vedas is universal for Jagat Hita(benefit of mankind)..There is enough chapters for every walk of life..from the Brahmachari..to the Grihasta to the Vanaprashta..to the Sanyasi..
From the artharti to the jijnaasu to the Jnaani..
It is tailored in such a way that there is choice for everyone..and no ones choice is wrong or superior to anothers..

God does not have to appear in front of us to convince us..Isnt He in all of us..Ekaatma Sarva Bhutaantaraatma...
There is also God in Sai Baba and Mataji..

Its Ayam Atma Brahma ..so are you and me..

thats why i listen to this daily...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptlc-QlHuoQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptlc-QlHuoQ
 
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To All TB Members: I have read all the postings and wondered how much time and energy wasted. Pl understand a perfect Master(GURU) never discloses himself as a GURU, the real GURU will automaticaly select his Marked SOUL(Disciple) and teach him how to get rid from this Maya(World) and show the real royal path to lead a Spiritual life and at the time comes he will take the soul and merge with the source. s.r.k.
 
the choice is in our hands..and there is no harm surrendering to God and let Him decide what is the best for us..


No, the Gods or our Ishta Devta does not decide what is good for us. Yes, the choice is in our hands and we decide what is good for our individual selves. Anyone who has learnt the Vedas correctly would tell that we have free will, but it has to be understood clearly. This free will allows us to choose our path which derives our karma. Everything depends upon a person's Karma. Whichever path he takes, the success depends upon the fruitition of his prvious karma. If his Karma is ready for fruitition, then even if he takes the right path, then suddenly he would receive the rewards for it like suddenly winning a lottery and so on. But he could also involve in smuggling and robbery, yet again he receives the same reward but his Karma worsens for the rest of his eternity.

This is the order of life in the Universe according to the Vedas.

Thats the reason why on a personal basis i dont pray for warding off any evil effect in my life...

By worshipping Gods and reducing the evil effects would reduce the degradation of Karma. I was influenced by evil and if i had not learnt the Vedas, applied Jyotish and tackled my problems and solved it, i only end up in creating more problems for myself and others around me.

In this way of life, a Guru or Brahmana who teaches the Vedas correctly could be adhered to, but i see Sai Baba and Amritanandamayi do not do this at all. So i find no reason to accept them as a "spiritual guru". Since i had this basic Vedic knowledge about Karma i did not go after any spiritual fraud of today. If i didnt have this knowledge, then it could be possible that i will be in jail along with Nityananda now.
 
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No, the Gods or our Ishta Devta does not decide what is good for us. Yes, the choice is in our hands and we decide what is good for our individual selves. Anyone who has learnt the Vedas correctly would tell that we have free will, but it has to be understood clearly. This free will allows us to choose our path which derives our karma. Everything depends upon a person's Karma. Whichever path he takes, the success depends upon the fruitition of his prvious karma. If his Karma is ready for fruitition, then even if he takes the right path, then suddenly he would receive the rewards for it like suddenly winning a lottery and so on. But he could also involve in smuggling and robbery, yet again he receives the same reward but his Karma worsens for the rest of his eternity.

This is the order of life in the Universe according to the Vedas.



By worshipping Gods and reducing the evil effects would reduce the degradation of Karma. I was influenced by evil and if i had not learnt the Vedas, applied Jyotish and tackled my problems and solved it, i only end up in creating more problems for myself and others around me.

In this way of life, a Guru or Brahmana who teaches the Vedas correctly could be adhered to, but i see Sai Baba and Amritanandamayi do not do this at all. So i find no reason to accept them as a "spiritual guru".


Yes sir..you are right..God is the eternal witness Sarvasakshi Bhootam..
Its our karma that decides for us....most of the while.
But by surrendering to Lord Krishna..The Pandavas won the war..
Gods grace also can decide..to a certain extent..after all Its His Will..
Remember the story where Arjuna refused to get down before Krishna and Krishna forced Arjuna to get down first from the chariot?
Arjuna was forced to get down first and after Krishna got down the whole chariot blew up into flames..
Gods grace saved Arjuna becos Bhisma had fired the "'weapon of mass destruction" at the chariot of Arjuna that day..Only Gods grace saved him..It goes to show..when one surrenders to God even effects that cannot be warded off by astrology or rituals can be nullified..

Spiritual guru might be needed for some and not needed for some..
For me I beleive in God and i respect any form of divinity..
Sathya Sai Baba is not my spiritual Guru and neither has He declared He is a Spiritual Guru..

Thanks for sharing your personal story with us..
thats how we all share and improve here..my dear brother..

One more thing..remember even in the Gita Lord Krishna tells Arjuna to rise above the Vedas..man are attracted to the flowery words of the Vedas....
 
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Yes sir..you are right..God is the eternal witness Sarvasakshi Bhootam..
Its our karma that decides for us....most of the while.
But by surrendering to Lord Krishna..The Pandavas won the war..
Gods grace also can decide..to a certain extent..after all Its His Will..
Remember the story where Arjuna refused to get down before Krishna and Krishna forced Arjuna to get down first from the chariot?
Arjuna was forced to get down first and after Krishna got down the whole chariot blew up into flames..
Gods grace saved Arjuna becos Bhisma had fired the "'weapon of mass destruction" at the chariot of Arjuna that day..Only Gods grace saved him..It goes to show..when one surrenders to God even effects that cannot be warded off by astrology or rituals can be nullified..

Spiritual guru might be needed for some and not needed for some..
For me I beleive in God and i respect any form of divinity..
Sathya Sai Baba is not my spiritual Guru and neither has He declared he is a Spiritual Guru..

Thanks for sharing your personal story with us..
thats how we all share and improve here..my dear brother..

Yes its true, Krishna did save Arjuna, and Lord Krishna sided with the Pandavas BECAUSE they were on the side of Dharma. This is clearly explained on my research work, Volume I, kindly refer to it if you have doubts.

Ravana is a Great Devotee of Lord Shiva, yet Lord Shiva did not save him when Lord Ram killed him.

If Arjuna's Karma was bad, then Lord Krishna would not have saved him.

If i have been committing evil deeds and murders all my life and i pray to Lord Vishnu or Lord Shiva to help me, is it correct? That is proper knowledge and Logic.

I made no comments about you accepting Sai Baba as your personal Spiritual Guru.

Thanks a lot for giving me the opportunity to clear your doubts. I hope people gain Vedic knowledge or atleast get some idea of it by reading my posts.
 
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Dear Siddhantha and Renu,

Personally I have no ill feeling against anybody for any of the postings in this thread.

My fight against spiritual frauds is to save innocent people from fraudulent God men.

Recently with the help of a member in this forum, we were able to recover a budding youngster from the clutches of Nityanandan. Personally I am very happy about the same.

Let me continue my journey in saving innocent people from fraudulent God men.

I am least bothered whether somebody praises or criticises me for the such effort.

All the best
 
Yes its true, Krishna did save Arjuna, and Lord Krishna sided with the Pandavas BECAUSE they were on the side of Dharma. This is clearly explained on my research work, Volume I, kindly refer to it if you have doubts.

Ravana is a Great Devotee of Lord Shiva, yet Lord Shiva did not save him when Lord Ram killed him.

If Arjuna's Karma was bad, then Lord Krishna would not have saved him.

If i have been committing evil deeds and murders all my life and i pray to Lord Vishnu or Lord Shiva to help me, is it correct? That is proper knowledge and Logic.

I made no comments about you accepting Sai Baba as your personal Spiritual Guru.

Thanks a lot for giving me the opportunity to clear your doubts. I hope people gain Vedic knowledge or atleast get some idea of it by reading my posts.


Dear sir...

Ravana's case was different all togather..as he was Jaya the Vaikunta Dwarapalaka and had to be killed in order to be liberated..
His karma was not bad..

Since you brought up Ravana..i was always wondering if he knew the purpose of his birth..just see this stanza form Shiva Tandava Stotram:

Kada nilampa nirjaree nikunja kotare vasan,
Vimuktha durmathee sada sirasthanjaleem vahan,
Vilola lola lochano lalama bhala lagnaka,
Shivethi manthamucharan kada sukhee bhavamyaham.


does it not sound as if he was waiting to be liberated?
can i get your feedback please?

ok..when it comes to be leading a socalled evil life and at the time of death asking for forgiveness i call it The Ajamila Syndrome..
Many people think that way..
There is an arabic word called Taubat..it means to repent.. many do it before dying so that God will forgive us..

I just had a conversation with an old religous muslim patient of mine who was telling me about Taubat..she asked me my opinion..
I told her that i will not ask forgiveness for what wrong i have done..i am willing to face the consequences of my karma..i dont want to be bailed out..i shall reap what i sow..
she asked me again.."so you dont mind going to hell?"
i said if i deserve to be there So be it...
She was suprised with my answer..i told her i got firm faith in God..if He decides to place me even in Hell i will accept...
 
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Dear Siddhantha and Renu,

Personally I have no ill feeling against anybody for any of the postings in this thread.

My fight against spiritual frauds is to save innocent people from fraudulent God men.

Recently with the help of a member in this forum, we were able to recover a budding youngster from the clutches of Nityanandan. Personally I am very happy about the same.

Let me continue my journey in saving innocent people from fraudulent God men.

I am least bothered whether somebody praises or criticises me for the such effort.

All the best

Dear RVR anna..

I understand your stand in this but i apologized to you sincerely because i did not want you to get the wrong impression of that post of mine..thats all
I have no problems apologizing if i have commited something wrong knowingly or unknowingly..

lots of love
renu
 
Dear RVR anna..

I understand your stand in this but i apologized to you sincerely because i did not want you to get the wrong impression of that post of mine..thats all
I have no problems apologizing if i have commited something wrong knowingly or unknowingly..

lots of love
renu

Renu,

The matter is fully closed.

Absolutely I don't have any ill felling against you.

You don't have to feel about it.

Let us move on.

All the best
 
Dear sir...

Ravana's case was different all togather..as he was Jaya the Vaikunta Dwarapalaka and had to be killed in order to be liberated..
His karma was not bad..

Since you brought up Ravana..i was always wondering if he knew the purpose of his birth..just see this stanza form Shiva Tandava Stotram:

Kada nilampa nirjaree nikunja kotare vasan,
Vimuktha durmathee sada sirasthanjaleem vahan,
Vilola lola lochano lalama bhala lagnaka,
Shivethi manthamucharan kada sukhee bhavamyaham.


does it not sound as if he was waiting to be liberated?
can i get your feedback please?

Dear Sister Renu,

It is good that you brought up this subject. Ravana was Jaya and he was cursed. It was not bad Karma but it is a CURSE which had to be rectified and it is equivalent to bad Karma. Lord Vishnu modified that curse by granting him liberation FROM the curse by being killed by Himself in his Avatars. Same is the case with Vijayan.

Please raise and discuss any doubts that you wish to have my opinion.

If we have bad Karma we could remove them by austerities performed towards the Gods. We are going to be punished for Bad Karma anyway. If we undergo suffering, then it means that our bad karma is being deleted and there is nothing to worry about it. But if we create suffering for others and corrupt their minds with wrong ideas, then we are degrading our Karma and if they succumb they are degrading theirs too.
 
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It's sad,that parent's and relative's,have to get involved,in a love struck romeo,and instead of finding a bride for this jilted romeo,express horrid opinon's of living enlightend beings.Paramahamsa Nithyananda,is at the most a 'hypocrite' tag can be hung over his neck,There is nothing unnatural act,that he has performed.Having sex with a consenting man or woman of either species,is ok,by god,its we humans,who think,what is normal and what is abnormal,and pass legislation and JUDGEMENTS.None here know,first,how to judge their own 'self',if they know then they will see the amount of dirt sticking,and will become busy in cleaning it,and lead an exemplary life.

Dr.Jayalalithaa,got the Kanchi Acharyaal booked for murder?Are these gurus murderer's?The law of the land,has booked them and both holiness are facing a trial!So,am i in any doubt about,the gurus,NO,NEVER!why,becoz i have faith in their gurudom,and both were handpicked by my kulam guru Mahaswamigal Of Kanchi Kamakoti Peetham,who can never err in his wise decisions.Actually Dr.Jayalalithaa,has messed with the decision of Mahaswamigal Of Kanchi,not even hh jayendrar or vijendrar saraswathi's,and for that she will pay heavily,and the curse of the saint on this woman and aiadmk!Only MGR can plead the case with Mahaswamigal's spirit in the spirit world,otherwise AIADMK is doomed forever!
 
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Dear RVR anna..

I understand your stand in this but i apologized to you sincerely because i did not want you to get the wrong impression of that post of mine..thats all
I have no problems apologizing if i have commited something wrong knowingly or unknowingly..

lots of love
renu

renu

you make sanathana dharma,especially malaysian citizen's proud,by your action's.:)
:love:
 
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