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I'm not a man, Nityananda told CID sleuths - India - The Times of India
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I'm not a man, Nityananda told CID sleuths - India - The Times of India
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I'm not a man, Nityananda told CID sleuths - India - The Times of India
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Conditions at Puttaparthi seems to be very bad. Please read the following.
Sathya Sai Baba Deceptions Exposed
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A rule of thumb regarding sadhus, sanyasis, gurus etc., which my great grandfather (he was a very orthodox, pious brahmin and lived up to 84 years and so we had occasions to hear stories etc., from him) is that a person who has 'really' attained brahmajnaanam will never, ever come out in the open to advertise himself (or, herself, in our times!) as a guru etc.
Perfectly correct. I fully agree with you.
Secondly, there is no need for us to go in search of a guru; one will come to you IF you have reached that stage of eligibility.
Bagavan Ramana Maharishi and Vallimalai Swamigal got Sadguru Seshadri Swamigal as Guru after they reached a higher stage. I fully agree with you that a Guru will evolve at the right time.
Hence he told us not to go to any sadhu, sanyasi etc., in search of manthra-deekshai, upadesam, hearing lectures etc. He, however, wanted grihasthas to give bhikshai - that too at the door step, not inside the house - to any saffron-clad man/woman coming for food.
Saint Thiagayya was performing unchavarthi and was going after every house to collect his daily needs chanting Lord Rama. This happened just 160 years back.
I follow these rules and am happy. But there are many who want "moksham" through a guru right after this birth itself and in their eagerness go to these swamis.
Some people want `instant' results. Fraudulent Godmen know the weakness of such devotees.
Self proclaimed God man Ravi Sankar has claimed that he was shot at last evening. But there seems to be lot of un answered questions.
Attack on Art of Living guru leaves some deadly mysteries - 1 - *National News ? News ? MSN India
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The problem with Satya Sai Baba is that he claimed that he was God. At one time this God seemed to vomit a Sivalinga (in video, I mean) and then proclaimed that it weighed some 30 tons (yes, tons!) and hence his stagger after the event.
I once conversed with a young man who was studying in the College in Puttaparthi. He and the entire family were confirmed devotees of Satya Sai. Still, during the conversation, perhaps due to his immaturity, he blurted out that the students did not at all have any good opinion about Sai Baba. When I tried to find out why it was so, he became cautious and evaded a clear answer.
There was another family which was very devoted to Satya Sai. Eventually, they moved away but were reluctant to tell us the reasons.
I therefore feel that even among the devotees of Satya Sai Baba, there are many who would like to get off but are not able to.
Since Baba is now in wheel chair, naturally people started getting doubts about his claim to being God; if he cannot cure himself what will he be able to do for others, type of doubts. Perhaps to mollify such people and keep them within the flock, the Sai unit (I don't get its correct name) in Trivandrum installed an idol of Shirdi Sai Baba in their premises.
I will not agree that there is any national or international conspiracy against our new age Gurus, except themselves and their actions. You will see that Ramana was never attacked by any foreigner even though there were some murmurs in our country regarding his excessive attachment to a cow.
Swami Sivananda was also respected although even his most ardent devotees say that his 'poorvaasramam' was not anything ideal. So, it is only these new-age gurus who are flocking to the west who bring a bad name to the country.
Hope you are not going to write off Sri Ravi Shankar as a spiritual fraud too.
Since you have also mentioned Sri Satya Sai in one of your posts above (yet again), i have decided to come out in defence of Satya Sai. Just bcoz i have moved on to other teachings does not mean that i give up on Satya Sai (SS). So yes, please consider me his spokesperson for this thread.
Previously too, i wud have discussed your arguements abt SS, but unfortunately you mentioned that "he is not from our community" - which shows that caste matters to you in such things - that sir was a huge turn off for me (dunno if you are praying to shiva bhagavan bcoz he 'belongs to our community').
I think you are quoting me out of context. Kanchi Acharyas were criticized in this forum liberally. I my self criticised the present Kanchi Acharyas of whom I am suppose to be a follower. But those postings were not removed but when I criticised Puttabarthi Sai Baba, it was removed. In that context I questioned the administrations bias towards Puttabarthi Sai Baba.
Even today I have put up a negative posting about Ravi Sankar whom I presume is a Brahmin by birth.
If you go back to my previous postings, I have liberally praised Ramalinga Vallalar, Swamy Vivekananda and others who are not of brahmin orgin
I am not raising caste politics but you seems to be interested in it.
You also seem selective in your rationalism while invoking Kovoor. The outcome of your irrational side was all those posts on a mutt, which i deeply regret and have been asking praveen to delete them (i hope and pray he deletes this whole thread). By now anyways, am sure you understand that just as faith make you defensive, it works the same way for others too.
There are lot of discussions going on in other threads about who is a true rationalist and I am sure the debate will go on for ever. I am not asking the administration to delete any of the postings which were made previously including those which criticised Kanchi Mutt and its Acharyas. I am also follower of Kanchi mutt but I firmly believe in objective analysis of the mutt and its functioning . I don't know why people believing in the modern God men are so sensitive when they are criticised.
Even in the Nityananda episode, i wonder if you wud have rushed to post negative comments if he were a brahmin. Am not defending him (bcoz of various things and other charges), but please let me know which ekadandi sampradaya actually bans sex per se for sanyasis? Did not Adi Shankara have sex? Ofcourse he did and it helped him to prove that the body is not brahman (it helped him to trounce the purva mimansa view of Mandana Mishra).
Again I would like you to see my negative posting about Ravi Sankar today much before your posting appreared where I have criticised him inspite of his presumed Brahmin origin.
There is a saying, `every saint has a past and every sinner has a future'. Saint Arunagirinathar was spending his life with prostitutes till he was enlightened by Lord Muruga. But after he was conquered by Lord Muruga, he never looked back and was singing only on Lord Muruga. His composition of Tiruppugazh is wonderful master piece in Tamil.
But present day God man could not be compared with him since they are continuing the misdeeds after claiming that they are Sanyasis.
Adhi Sankarar took sanyas voluntarily without any pressure and lived as a `Sanyasi'. He entered a dead body to learn the grahastashrama life for a very short duration. Nowhere it is mentioned that he had sex during that short duration.
To top it, you mentioned a hotel case and put up the stand of birlas and the marwari community. What you are saying does pretty much come thru between the words. I wonder what makes you assign hotels to liquor and girls. But then I suppose, Vijay Mallya brewing liquor and his former playboy image should all be ok to you - because he is a brahmin. Again, it is the caste affiliation that will decide tings for you...
I am not an admirer of Vijay Mallaya or any of the liquor baron. I am a follower of Mahatma Gandhi who is not a brahmin by birth. When Vijay Mallaya bought the belongings of Mahatma Gandhi in an auction, I felt very bad and wrote in some other thread about my displeasure.
My admiration for Birlas (again not brahmins) for their principles is again proving that I am not a brahmin fanatic.
It is purely your imagination that I am a brahmin fanatic.
Hope you realise that its precisely this type of attitude that gives rise to the hyprocisy image of some brahmins. I already mentioned some harsh comments some NBs make abt Bs - does it not hurt? (let me also add that those comments are made by tamilians, not telugu folk - i am telling this bcoz i fear you may assign the 'prejudice' value to the variables 'telugu' and 'NB' - till date, in my observation, the opposition to 'meddle' with varnas, shastras, etc is coming from the telugu side).
Please go through my past writings where I have admired EVR in these columns who has criticised brahmins most. I have voluntarily attended his meetings and always go with the mindset that he is going to criticise my community. He is the father of Dravidian movement but he never went after any post and was interested in promoting rationalist mindset among the public which I have also inherited to some extent.
So i request you to leave aside caste affiliation in this thread. Let us discuss the person for what he is worth. To begin with, let me start with my own observations - i myself have seen vibhuti coming out of the pix of SS. Please explain from your rational stand, how did that happen?
I think you are only bringing caste affiliation in this forum. Before pointing the finger on the other, please make a honest self introspection.
Let us have a neutral venue and fraud proof conditions where you bring out Vibhuthi or any other material from a pix of SS or any other God man. I have already announced a reward of Rs. 5 lakhs which you can very well take it and make me poor to that extent if you can perform a miracle. Otherwise whatever experience you are having, please keep it within yourself and don't make any claims.
....definitely not only hindus,even islam & christanity are under attack by atheists,commies,agnostics...in every part of the globe...these ungodly and adharmic foreces are evrywhere and must be stamped down....
Come on NN, what is wrong with them commies? They are not half as bad as the atheists and agnostics, are they?
Living in a land of beef eating mlechchas, and an atheist to boot, I am surely part of the adharmic forces you are talking about -- when is this avathara coming to stamp me down???
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