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nara,

BTW, for something completely different, how old is your distant relative who became a follower of our infamous Nityananda?

For a Indian parents,no mater how old their child is,they will be always protective and smothering them with love.What parents ought to understand is,maybe this over-protective intererence in the childs life itself the 'karanam' for the child to bolt away frm the clutches of parental stranglehold.Its ridiculous to see 'vakalathu' for a distant relative being quoted here.

As far writing swami nithyanandam as 'infamous' the infamy has been brought upon by sun tv which itself is a motley crew of infamous characters,headed by a double hypocrite,who has officially two wives and umpteen concubies in various parts of chennai.

swami nithyanandam is innocent untill proved guilty by a court of law in India.

nachi naga.
 
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hi folks,
the same old stories continue here....individual ego clashes...
freedom of speech...does not mean that blah blah..,there is
a proverb in sanskrit...the word should be sweet and simple...
talking about old thrash topics....which is already gone...
these are good example of our unity....im sure...
WE NEVER BE UNITED....it is brahma sapam for brahmins....
in this kali yuga dharma....even brahmacharis will involved
in unwanted sex activities....the grihasthas may be expert
in extra marital activites...so called sanyasis will involve
sex scandals....nobody can change the yuga dharma...
many new stories like nityananda will come daily in news papers/media
wait and see for new episodes....

regards
tbs

tbs,

appreciate your pov.imo,there is no 'shapam' for brahmin community or for that matter any community in the world.when lord krishna left dwaraka,to his abode,unlike the pandava brothers,mother kunti,left her mortal coil as soon as she heard,that the lord has left to his abode in golokam.such piety may have reduced owing to yuga dharmam,so be it.

nachi naga.
 
Sri Nachi Naga,

I am not at all questioning the Kanchi mutt or Paramacharyal.

There is a vast difference in determining the period of Adhi Sankara as claimed by Kanchi mutt and others.

Kanchi mutt says it is 2500 years old.

Government of India says Adhi Sankara lived in 9th Century.

Unfortunately there is no authentic recorded history in India.

It is high time that Kanchi mutt convinces Government of India if they have any proof that the mutt is 2500 old and if satisfied Government of India will also rectify the time period in their records.

My personal opinion is Kanchi mutt is definitely established by Adhi Sankara.

Adhi Sankara visited most parts of India extensively but didn't penetrate the present Tamilnadu to that extent. Since both Azhwars and Nayanmars during 7th to 9th century revived hinduism, there was not much necessity for Adhi Sankara to tour extensively the present Tamilnadu area.

Only this area has all the six forms of worship such as Siva, Sakthi, Vishnu,Vinayaga, Muruga and Sun. And all these deities are available in a single temple only in Tamilnadu.

If you take Kanchi Ekambareswar temple, including Maha Vishnu all the deities are available in that temple. Even Chidambaram Nataraja temple has a perumal temple within it. Kanchi Varadaraja Perumal temple has a Vinayagar Sannidhi.

Murugan worship is popular only in Tamilnadu and in Kerala to some extent. But Kerala is nothing but Chera Nadu those days. Even the place `Subramanya' in Karnataka doesn't have a Subramanya Swamy idol and only a `five headed cobra' idol is worshiped as `subramanya'

It is my gut feeling that Adhi Sankara would have established `Shunmatha Sthapanam' only at Kanchi which has all the six forms of worship.

But I am unable to accept the time period of kanchi mutt as more than 2500 years old. If Kanchi mutt has information about this time period, they have to establish it before the appropriate authorities of the Government of India.

For making this suggestion if you brand me as DK, DMK etc, it is fine. I have no problem in being called like that.

All the best
 
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KRS,

I wish to elaborate on a theme of victim’s rights and pray stay with me, as I lead up to it. Thank you.

Ever since its inception, Christianity has given birth to offshoots, many of them addressed as ‘cults’ by the mainstream.

The activities of one such cult led by a man Jim Jones, led to the mass killing/suicide of a few hundreds of Americans, a few years ago, in the jungles of Guyana.

Jonestown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The underlying disturbing trend of the cults, is to wean the follower away from his or her familiar jaunts and relationships, and bind them closely to the said organization.

I have heard of parents complain in the western media, about the loss of their children to Hare Krishnas. And nowadays to Al Qaeda.

In the same context, I can understand the plight of families whose members may have abandoned them for the ashrams of Nithyananda or any such godperson. I also agree, that in most cases, it is a benign event, as the said devotee is a bored elderly parent indulging in many a harmless activitivity purported towards worship or rituals.

But, it so happens, some of the so called devotees, have abandoned their family, children and even further, their jobs or in extreme cases written away their properties to the godmen. If I remember right, the venerable Abbotsbury, the original of all kalyana mandapams in Madras, was written off to Sathya Sai, a long time ago, and all of a sudden. Would not this act demand some scrutiny from the man’s family?

Also, I think, the public, is within its right to query such a hurried and hushed transfer of a high profile property. Sadly, any such raised voices, were silenced, to the best of my memory.

Public figures, like Caesar’s wife, should not only be faultless, but also appear to be faultless. In this context, I think, it is their duty to dispel any notice of inappropriate activity or rumour, by opening up to a fair and impartial enquiry.

This, in short, is the sum up, of a victim’s rights.

Ofcourse, those who want to silence, shut or suppress these queries, will resort to any method to achieve their purpose. We have seen such instances of exacerbated breast beatings of the likes of members that you mentioned. Would you not have these members stand up, and openly agree to investigations and prove their accusers wrong and of baseless prejudice?

As a thinking man, and a man who practices democracy in his daily socio political life, would this not be in line with the voices of reasoning and fairness?

Or would you, under the fear of ‘offending’ some with hidden agendas, suppress discussion under the name of religious unity or any such ‘sanctified’ reasoning?

I think, it is in this context, venkat and myself, view the suppression of godmen names, and the limitless call to continue this practice.

Venkat, due to his relative's involvement, i think has a legitimate concern. same as me, when years ago, the kanchi mutt refused an audience for my just widowed distraught young relative with 5 young daughters. people in public pits have an obligation and when it is failed, it is a victim's right to call to justice or query.

Hope this explains.

Thank you.
 
Prof Nara asked

BTW, for something completely different, how old is your distant relative who became a follower of our infamous Nityananda?


He may be around 25 years and was born & brought up at Mumbai. He completed Bachelor of Engineering degree in Electronics & Communication and worked with software companies in Bangalore for more than two years.

He got attracted to Nityananda more than a year back.

Both the parents of the boy are full time employees and may not have given enough attention to this boy.

However this boy has an younger sister and she is very normal.

His father is just one or two years senior to me and was close to me from my younger days. He & his wife are very soft and nice people.

But I don't know where the parents failed which made the boy attracted to Nityananda.

All the best
 
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dear rvr,
Sri Nachi Naga,
I am not at all questioning the Kanchi mutt or Paramacharyal.
There is a vast difference in determining the period of Adhi Sankara as claimed by Kanchi mutt and others.
Kanchi mutt says it is 2500 years old.
mahaswamigal is on record,saying kanchi shankara matham is 2500 years old legacy.adi-shankaras history is being taken selectively by vested interest.when all history of adi-shankara is being written and accepted as truth,then why should anyone in the world question,mahaswamigal's verdict.there is nobody in earth living greater than mahaswamigals history,as he is a living legend aka nadamadum deivam.govt of india is wrong and should accept the seers verdict as the final say in this matter.
Government of India says Adhi Sankara lived in 9th Century.
Unfortunately there is no authentic recorded history in India.
when you write,that there is no authentic record,how govt of india can accept its 9 th century?knowing the performance of govt india after 61 years of independance,lets trash their view to dust bin,as far as its views about adi-shankara is concerned.
It is high time that Kanchi mutt convinces Government of India if they have any proof that the mutt is 2500 old and if satisfied Government of India will also rectify the time period in their records.
kanchi shankara matham acharyals have proved with evidence,its for ignorant people to go and obtain the necessary clarification.mahaswamigal of kanchi,is the final word on this matter.bhagavan sathya sai baba,shringeri acharyals also concur this view.the reason being,the geographical map of ancient india was entirely different,under one chakravarthi,reigning supreme,amongst many rajas and ranis.
My personal opinion is Kanchi mutt is definitely established by Adhi Sankara.
thank you.lets leave it at that,and accept mahaswamigal of kanchis verdict as the final say in this matter of adi-shankara.
Adhi Sankara visited most part of India extensively but didn't penetrate the present Tamilnadu to that extent. Since both Azhwars and Nayanmars during 7th to 9th century revived hinduism, there was not much necessity for Adhi Sankara to tour extensively the present Tamilnadu area.
plz refer to your own admission,as you are contradicting your own statements.
Only this area has all the six forms of worship such as Siva, Sakthi, Vishnu,Vinayaga, Muruga and Sun. And all these deities are available in a single temple only in Tamilnadu.
If you take Kanchi Ekambareswar temple, including Maha Vishnu all the deities are available in that temple. Even Chidambaram Nataraja temple has a perumal temple within it. Kanchi Varadaraja Perumal temple has a Vinayagar Sannidhi.
Murugan worship is popular only in Tamilnadu and in Kerala to some extent. But Kerala is nothing but Chera Nadu those days. Even the place `Subramanya' in Karnataka doesn't have a Subramanya Swamy idol and only a `five headed cobra' idol is worshiped as `subramanya'
It is my gut feeling that Adhi Sankara would have established `Shunmatha Sthapanam' only at Kanchi which has all the six forms of worship.
adi-shankara acharya reinstated the vedas,shiva,vishnu family parampara.he was able to influence sanathana dharma back to its rightful place,amongst dharma living.
But I am unable to accept the time period of kanchi mutt as more than 2500 years old. If Kanchi mutt has information about this time period, they have to establish it before the appropriate authorities of the Government of India.
the authority is bonafide acharyals of kanchi shankara matham.not govt of india,which changes its whim and fancies from time to time owing to political elections.
For making this suggestion if you brand me as DK, DMK etc, it is fine. I have no problem in being called like that.
anna,at no point of time,i have accused you personally of you either being dk,dmk,aiadmk,pmk,kkk...etc kurram ulla nenju kuru kurukiradhu endral,naan enna seiyya mudiyum,ayya.manikkavum.

who am i to judge brother.the peril of mis-information,the damaging of art artifacts temples,temple records,by alien islamic forces for 800 years and for 200 years christians masquerading and pontificating about our dharma is the root cause of all this confusion prevailing.even today our political leaders are pawns in the hands of alien forces,first they should learn to respect our majority populace feelings,namely hindus and among the hindus,the brahmins community verdict as edifying truths.such a thought word deed will happen,sooner or later,in kali yugam.sathyemeve jayathe,jai hind.

as a matter fact,the russian orthodox church celeberates christmas on a an entirely different day and month of the year,not the popular version of dec 25 th,which was a winter solstice day of celeberation for non-christians,when christ was not born or heard off.thank you.

nachi naga.
 
kunjuppu,
Venkat, due to his relative's involvement, i think has a legitimate concern. same as me, when years ago, the kanchi mutt refused an audience for my just widowed distraught young relative with 5 young daughters. people in public pits have an obligation and when it is failed, it is a victim's right to call to justice or query.

Its clear why you have an axe to grind,about kanchi shankara matham.I suppose you get a free visitations in all churches,mosques,synagogues in the world,but you would comply to their rules and regulations aka shastras & sampradayas,and keep quiet.But question the shastras & sampradayas of kanchi shankara matham and its acharyals.Nice canadian tactics on us Indians.Especially tamizh brahmins,way to go ,kunjuppu.thanks for exposing your diabolical thinking,to us forum members.Now i understand where you come from,brother.

the victim is the kanchi acharyaals,who steadfastly stood by shastras & sampradayas,without circumventing for you or your widowed relatives with n number of daughters.where is he need for them,to break a law of kanchi matham?and you remembering it,and continue a notional anxiety for them!!!!!!!!

nachi naga.
 
hi folks,
the same old stories continue here....individual ego clashes...
freedom of speech...does not mean that blah blah..,..................................
talking about old thrash topics....which is already gone...
these are good example of our unity....im sure...
WE NEVER BE UNITED....it is brahma sapam for brahmins....
..........................................................................
wait and see for new episodes....

regards
tbs

Sorry Sri tbs,

I do not subscribe to your self defeating opinion....

Brahmins are united.....will stand united for ever....

There will be deliberate attempts to foil the unity..

If you try to retreat, then that is their victory..... We should now have the killer spirit.. "Seithu mudi...illayel sethu madi..' recall the old call for freedom struggle .

It is just a fashion to denigrate anything related o Brahmins.... and t a large level Hinduism...

The spirit should be to rise as a phoenix.. Inculcate the pride and
spirit in energetic youths. If one Gandhi can show to the world what Ahimsa and patience can get reward, why not we, with far more better communication methods in modern n India?modern world?

It is " Vasudhaiva Kudumbam "now.

I consistently repeat that if we aim something gigantic at a Macro level, it may not be immediately successful...but the unity should start (it already is ),if not anywhere, and should be well cemented and stabilised. Dedicated persons should be solidly supported. sometimes unnecessary criticism has to be nipped properly for the sake of unity.

Enemies of unity from within should be identified and isolated. immediately. Weeds have to be removed for the proper growth of useful plants.

We are here for unity only.

There is no use in uploading and downloading Aikamatya sooktam..It should be practised, at least among us as a start. Then we can think of Global Love and Global Unity.

" Aikamatyam Mahabalam".

The tiger preys by isolating the deer from its herd. If the deer sticks to the herd tiger cannot get it". Remember the You-tube video of bisons freeing one of their member from the lions by reherding and attacking the lions.

It is high time to herd or reherd for the deers ......not for offence ....but just for defence at least...

Think it over....Self confidence is needed. Nobody need to teach us what is right for us... painted wolves are on the prowl ....Beware. Unite to selfprotect..



Greetings.
 
Some years ago there was a Premananda in Tamil Nadu. Now it is Nithyananda. What is the guarantee that some other 'nanda' will not spring up at some time in the future? These nandas and swamis will appear and reappear perennially unless and until there is real spiritual awakening among our people. Our people forget the roots. They want instant solution for their mundane problems, distresses, sorrows etc. They want a Jeemboomba, a wave of a magic wand and all their problems to be solved. They abstain from learning lessons from great men who have gone thru the mill, who have braved greater catastrophes in life by fortitude and emerged victorious by applying wisdom, grit and determination. The society is also to blame. The society is becoming degenerate. If any individual wants to differ from the society he has to be bold, shed all inhibitions and break out of all the shells. A reformation and revolution is needed, so that such fraudsters are completely eliminiated.
 
Kunjuppu said

If I remember right, the venerable Abbotsbury, the original of all kalyana mandapams in Madras, was written off to Sathya Sai, a long time ago, and all of a sudden. Would not this act demand some scrutiny from the man’s family?

You are perfectly correct Kunjuppu ji. Abbotsbury is an important land mark building right at the heart of Chennai City in the arterial Mount Road. (Now Anna Salai).

Those who donated it must have thought of a noble cause.

This building was sold to Andhra based liquor baron Subbarami Reddi.

Reddi started constructing a five star hotel but due to his sudden death at the hands of naxalites in Andhra, still it is not completed.

Generally people make wild comments about Marwari business community. But surprisingly they have very high level of ethics when it comes to certain types of business. They don't touch liquor, leather, meat/fish processing, hotel etc. It is very rare to see Marwaris in these type of business.

G D Birla is considered as the father figure of entire Birla group; A book is available about his life history

The Life and Times of G.D. Birla
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Author(s) : Medha M. Kudaisya

In this book there is an interesting sentence

`Certain areas of business were considered taboo such as the hotel business because it involved ‘drinking and dancing’ which was not in keeping with the austere tradition of the family.'

I was thrilled to read the above statement from a hard core businessman.

I wish all of us should have some principles like the great doyen of Indian Business.

I am really pained to note that Abbotsbury is becoming a hotel through a liquor baron and this God man.

Let better sense prevail on them

All the best
 
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iyer,

Some years ago there was a Premananda in Tamil Nadu. Now it is Nithyananda. What is the guarantee that some other 'nanda' will not spring up at some time in the future? These nandas and swamis will appear and reappear perennially unless and until there is real spiritual awakening among our people. Our people forget the roots. They want instant solution for their mundane problems, distresses, sorrows etc. They want a Jeemboomba, a wave of a magic wand and all their problems to be solved. They abstain from learning lessons from great men who have gone thru the mill, who have braved greater catastrophes in life by fortitude and emerged victorious by applying wisdom, grit and determination. The society is also to blame. The society is becoming degenerate. If any individual wants to differ from the society he has to be bold, shed all inhibitions and break out of all the shells. A reformation and revolution is needed, so that such fraudsters are completely eliminiated.

What you have written let's just change the names a bit,and see what we get,ok.

Instead can we use,shankaracharayal,who is still battling court cases in puducherry?or at Puri?or at Karnataka?Or at Dwaraka?....At Kashmir?

Instead use Sai Baba of Parthi?wherein the case by the CBI is dismissed?a govt of india dept!!

instead lord krishna?as the hare krishna are temed as cults?is srila prabhupada a Cult????

i am restraining myself with just a few sanathana dharma followers.if i start using abrahamic faiths,then another pandoras box will be opened????

god,is the doer of everything,in this world and every other world.if we break laws of the land,laws of god,we will be exposed,no matter who he or she is in the world,either this lifetime or any future life times.period.

nachi naga.
 
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rvr,

You are perfectly correct Kunjuppu ji. Abbotsbury is an important land mark building right at the heart of Chennai City in the arterial Mount Road. (Now Anna Salai).
Those who donated it must have thought of a noble cause.
This building was sold to Andhra based liquor baron Subbarami Reddi.
Reddi started constructing a five star hotel but due to his sudden death at the hands of naxalites in Andhra, still it is not completed.

When people donate to god men/women or temples ,there ends the matter as far as their donation is concerned.

bu extended family members,who were coveting wealth,suddenly find,that these god men/women,have cornered this expectations away from them,with their frustrations in high note,behave irrationally.

its rumored kanchi kamakoti peetham,received as donation or as black money being laundered into white money as religious transformation of maha lakshmi,the guru in charge,went back on his word of promise,to the donor.so,a political witch hunt,to foist cases,were framed on the gurus.knowing justices and judicial enquiries,its a protracted legal wangler tangle.

recently,almost all mata adhi pathis,were seen congregating with bhagavan sathya sai baba,paying respects & love,to their fellow god brother/sister.what a miracle it is to see,all religions philosophical heads in parthi.if this is not a miracle,then please define miracle.

many complaint today,about the present gurus admin capability.more often than not,i have noticed that these folks are owing alegiance to maha swamigal of kanchi.now that their perceived importance or lack of it,is curtailed by the present gurus,all kinds of rumors are flying hither & thither.the present gurus also change according times,is the answere.different keys for different locks,expecting one master key for all locks,is a bit tooo much.

reddi garu may have very been a baron,but neverthless a patron of sanathana dharma,for the hindus.after all if marwaris do not indulge in flesh trade,hotel business or liquor,meat...then one of us have to step in from the southern vaishya community,to do this business.not all of us are saints,amongst us we do enjoy booze,women,wealth,as far as possible legitimately,instead of doing it surreptiously,like some people,who pose as saints,but privately do everything.

being an former american multi-national as well as indian multi-national,the american multi-national management practices win hands down,while the indian management practices are relevant to indian conditions ONLY,as per my own opinion.there maybe others who differ with me,no problem.

just becoz some tambrahms like to eat ONLY sambar sadam,rasam sadam,thayir sadam,curry and kootu,does NOT mean,all Tambrahms are like this familiar lifestyle.my gurus have given me full permission,to do whatever i want in my life,and told me to stick to sampradayas,as far as possible.being human,i fail most of the time sticking to it.matha pitha athithi guru deivam,from guru i go straight to deivam,if i find my gurus confuscious in life.

nachi naga.
 
As long as followers are there such godmen will always be there-
in this world things are moving very fast-people concentrate more on earning and ultimately commit lot mistakes and mischieves and look for some place to get peace-when somebody talks nices which gives some amount of consoling and fall under the feet of such somebody.
 
Believe in god. Am damn sure he will solve your worries. atleast he gives the power to withstand. Never believe in godmen, as its very difficult to find such in today's world. All the gurus of today needs fame, advertisement, money, car, bungalow, A/C, what not else? Actually they live even superior than married people. Are these people the examples of simplicity??? They charge 10,000-50,000 for darshan. Are they down to earth???

See we people are like "ETTHA THINNA PITHAM THEILYUM" (What to eat to get rid of gastric disorder). So wherever we find solution we run beyond. Dont we know the esteems? Whatever the samiyar is telling is not new to us. We know ourselves who to live. But still we are keen to hear the same from him/her. Why is it so? We are not believing ourselves in a pakka manner. We doubt on our own devotion to god. So only god is also not answering us. In the gap between, godmen are living happy life.

"OORU RENDU PATTA KOOTHADIKKU KONDATTAM"

PRanams
 
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Believe in god. Am damn sure he will solve your worries. atleast he gives the power to withstand. Never believe in godmen, as its very difficult to find such in today's world. All the gurus of today needs fame, advertisement, money, car, bungalow, A/C, what not else? Actually they live even superior than married people. Are these people the examples of simplicity??? They charge 10,000-50,000 for darshan. Are they down to earth???

See we people are like "ETTHA THINNA PITHAM THEILYUM" (What to eat to get rid of gastric disorder). So wherever we find solution we run beyond. Dont we know the esteems? Whatever the samiyar is telling is not new to us. We know ourselves who to live. But still we are keen to hear the same from him/her. Why is it so? We are not believing ourselves in a pakka manner. We doubt on our own devotion to god. So only god is also not answering us. In the gap between, godmen are living happy life.

"OORU RENDU PATTA KOOTHADIKKU KONDATTAM"

PRanams

dd,

i agree with you partly sir.

the root cause is,education.

if proper education is imparted,the character building will take place auto-pilot.

when education is exorbitant,govt run educational instituitions in total mis-management,political parties amassing wealth beyond normal desire and stashing it in swiss bank accounts or benami biz or benami operations abroad,the indian economy is plunged into moral turpitude.

every indian is responsible whether he be a resident of the state country or NRI.

NRI should be given voting privilieges immediately by govt of india.

every indian citizen should be given national security code.

every indian shud be given healthcare facility.

every indian shud have the freedom of speech thinking action in his/her life.

women shud be given 50-50 oppurtunity in alll fields of endeavor,automatically spiritual frauds will dissappear.women are our equals.

nachi naga.
 
iyer,



What you have written let's just change the names a bit,and see what we get,ok.

Instead can we use,shankaracharayal,who is still battling court cases in puducherry?or at Puri?or at Karnataka?Or at Dwaraka?....At Kashmir?

Instead use Sai Baba of Parthi?wherein the case by the CBI is dismissed?a govt of india dept!!

instead lord krishna?as the hare krishna are temed as cults?is srila prabhupada a Cult????

i am restraining myself with just a few sanathana dharma followers.if i start using abrahamic faiths,then another pandoras box will be opened????

god,is the doer of everything,in this world and every other world.if we break laws of the land,laws of god,we will be exposed,no matter who he or she is in the world,either this lifetime or any future life times.period.

nachi naga.

What are the Abrahamic faiths? Could you please open a little of the Pandora's Box so that I am cautious in future? Do you mean Linda Goodman who came out with a sensational book on Sun Signs? Or are you talking about Nostradamus who has created a sensation with his prophecies? I do not believe anything from the West.
 
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iyer,

What are the Abrahamic faiths? Could you please open a little of the Pandora's Box so that I am cautious in future? Do you mean Linda Goodman who came out with a sensational book on Sun Signs? Or are you talking about Nostradamus who has created a sensation with his prophecies? I do not believe anything from the West.

A B R A H A M faiths is a dereivative of Akahnd Bharath of ancient India.You must know the Vedic Yuga Cycles for this to understand.Plz do some research,in this forum archives itself,stalwarts like nacchinarkiniyan,chintana,...etc have written nuggets for ignoramus like me.

Linda Goodman,is an astrologer par excellance from the gambit of western astrology or jewish astrology or vedic astrology or.....as she was verily an embodiment of love & predictions.

Nostradamus was a french philosopher guide christian loving jesus.He has predicted a blue turban wearing asian,will be the cause of ww3 in middle east asia,and i see osama bin laden wearing it in pictures!!!

you are more than welcome to believe or not believe in any 10 directions of the earths axis,and remain in that quadrant.thank you sir.

nachi naga.
 
A lot is being thrown around unnecessarily... everyone seems to be anxious to reach a conclusion with inadequate information obtained through an imperfect medium... perceptions galore!

Shri drsundaram's blogpost analyses the issue clearly. Please take time to read it and let us unwind ourselves of this godmen issue.

Peace.
 
Durga,


Let the courts decide Nityananda case.

I earnestly feel the prosecution side has a week case. Sex is not a big crime in India and that also when both the parties are doing things willingly.

Entering the private room of Nityananda is a bigger crime than the alleged crime committed by Nityananda.

Broadcasting it to public is a much bigger crime than the above two.

I am reminded of a statement made by late C N Annadurai long back.

Rivals alleged that he has affairs with an actress.

CNA shot back and said

நான் முற்றும் துறந்த முனிவனுமல்ல
அந்த நடிகை படி தாண்டா பத்தினியுமல்ல

Neither I am a total saint, not that actress is a `pathini'

If Nityananda makes a statement like the above, then there is practically no case against him

But one has to look it from moral and ethical aspects and decide.

I think either there is a rivalry within fellow god men circles or the work of other religious guys to fix him. The photographer who surrendered before Tamilnadu police is not a Hindu.

At the age of 32 Nityananda has expanded globally. He is not performing any `miracles' but attracts younger generation much better and is giving a big threat to others.

I am happy that an youngster like you has not fallen into the trap of any of these God men and believes only God

Rivals of Nityananda, knows the art of getting out of these type of problems including a cold blooded murder in their own premises.

Nityananda being young doesn't have much of experience .

The media people are also not saints.

Let us hope Truth comes out one day.

All the best
 
Anna durai was a tamizh indian politician.

whereas paramhamsa nithyanandam is yogi of the calibre of paramahamsa vivekanandar.

rvr,thanks for the link about press conference,the young swamijis as well swaminis did an excellent pr job of protecting paramahamsa nithayanandam genius development of programmes for the future generations of world.

hopefully lenin karuppan will spill the beans to karnataka police who as usual do an excellent job of capturing villains like how they nabbed sri lankan ltte terrorist in bangalore.all police dept will be proud of bangalore police,a new standard in policing matter.

nachi naga.
 
Dear Kunjuppu, I am in general agreement with what you are saying. All Godmen, acharya, guru, who are in the public space are fair game for criticism. Any reasonable charge must be met head on and answered. People should grow some skin and not feel hurt for every criticism that is made.

In the case of Sathya Sai Baba, I must confess I have no direct knowledge of him, but from the news coverage and youtube videos, I know I am not missing anything.

However, I have just a few friends who are Sai Baba devotees. This small sample may not be representative of anything, but the brahmins among this group seem to have a broader outlook and they seem less casteist than an average TB that I have come across.

This is a positive thing. How pervasive this is and how much of it is attributable to the guru himself, I have no idea. Also, if this is indeed the case, whether it outweighs other aspects that may be negative, I don't know.

I am interested in hearing about this aspect of the group.

Cheers!
 
hi folks,
yesterday premananda.....today nityananda...tomorrow may be
another ananda.....idhuvum kadanthu pogum......

regards
tbs
 
Prof Nara said

Also, if this is indeed the case, whether it outweighs other aspects that may be negative, I don't know.


Prof Nara Sir,

I have highest regards for you. We may have differences of opinion on certain issues but I earnestly feel that you are very much fair minded and will not compromise on basic principles of dharma.

When I saw your above statement, I was really shocked.

I know you are against the caste system and you want to eradicate it. You are welcome to do it with the right forces at your command.

I know it is not easy for you to achieve your goals very easily and you may have to be prepared for a long battle.

I wish you continue the battle tirelessly even if it takes longer time but in an ethical and moral way

But for that please don't join hands with forces which indulge in criminal and fraudulent activities. If you have any such idea, it is my earnest request to drop it.

Yesterday, I gave a link from G D Birla's business principles. It is a general opinion that all Marwaris have a single goal of money making. But they don't touch certain businesses based on their own philosophy and principles inspite of their attractive money making possibilities.

In the same way, you continue to fight the caste system by associating with correct people.

It is only my suggestion and not advice.

All the best
 
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