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Theory of Karma

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namaste smt. HH.

Come on, give us believers some leeway. The non-believers might not care to investigate any link between the physical and metaphysical, whereas the believers always want to be personally assured, IMO, of such a link. I have not read the book in the second link, but I believe that past karma can manifest through genes.

Dear ALL Believers:

I have to remind you:

1. You depend on your personal BELIEF to guide you in this world and possibly in your "other world".

Then, why do you care for the Science to come and support you or rescue you?

Science REQUIRES reasoning.. and is founded on rationality. Whereas, Belief, by definition, does not require any reasoning!

If you need the support of Science then you need to give up the whole or a part of your BELIEF system! Are you ready?

2. In your anxiety you come up with statements like "Soul weighs 21 grams" or "Soul can be stained and visualized as smudges in a picture" etc... all are terribly ridiculous.

If this is pointed out, you all feel ashamed.. feel hurt.

Why?

Dear Saidevo:

You assert that "past karma can manifest through genes" in post 276, then people will immediately ask

What's the structural and functional basis of the Jarma Poorva Karma?

Explain, please!

Cheers.

ps. As I have said several times before, Soul/Consciousness and the like are nothing but what your Sensory Neurons do in your brain... when they die, they all disappear... therefore, Janma Poorva Karma is just a FANTASY or FICTION, IMO.
 
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religion is a science.science is a religion.they complement one another.imho both are two sides of one coin.buddhist even today choose their successor based on certain criteria aka reincarnation.buddhism is an offshoot of hinduism just like jainism,sikhism,islam,christanity,zoroatarianism,...etc sanathana dharma is the umbrella word encompassing all the religions of the world.fanatics amongst us believers will always try to divide and maintain an individuality.whats surprising for me is,when all elements are shared by beings,what is there singularly different from one another.marginal differences get highlighted and pandemonium is created for chaos.these ppl are irreligious ppl donning the mask of religion.god is one religions are many.sun is one sun-rays are many.
 
I love reading about the origin of certain phrases. I love anthropology & archaeology. I taken courses in them just for fun. I think the ancient History does not make any diffrence, it does not authenticate anything. My life is today I have to face what ever is given to me, it is shaped by past (karma, parentage, society etc), and my future is within me, if only I can train myself.
In the words of Jaggi Vasudev:

"Life is far beyond meaning, Life is beyond meaning and that's why it is so beautiful."

"The sign of intelligence is that you are constantly wondering. Idiots are always dead sure about every damn thing they are doing in their life."
 
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I read this passage in another forum and I was impressed with the contents.I reproduce the same for the information of all members.
Regds.
Krishnamurthy.B



FREE WILL, KARMA, REINCARNATION, EFFORT, AND GRACE
Our free will is like limited freedom of a dog on a leash. By our own action we loose our free will. We become a puppet of our own Karma. Everything is predetermined.
Our future is decided by our Prayer. We do what we think, and we become what we do.
Our thoughts decide our destiny. These actions and their reactions upon us which we call “fate” ( Praarabdham) Our body, mind, intellect, and reasoning are fashioned by these.
Nature does all the work. Due to delusion of ignorance or ego, we assume we do all these and incur karmic bondage. Our own actions produce the karmic reactions or bondage. God has made us His tool which we must remember and perform what a tool will have to do for its Master.. With this attitude we will incur no karmic bondage or sin,
The fire of Self-knowledge reduces all bonds of Karma to ashes, O Arjuna, like the blazing fire reduces wood to ashes (Gita 4.37).
After many births, the enlightened one resorts to Me by realiz­ing that everything is, indeed, My manifestation. Such a great soul is very rare. (Gita 7.19) This is Self-knowledge.
Set aside all meritorious deeds and religious rituals, and just surrender completely to My will with firm faith and loving devotion. I shall liberate you from all sins, the bonds of Karma. Do not grieve. (Gita 18.66)
We will therefore attain Godhood AFTER NO MORE KARMA OR DESIRE IS LEFT.SO WE BECOME GODLIKE IF NOT GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lord actually knows our needs at all times and is simply waiting to be asked for help due to our free will.
We face the result of our own power of rea­soning and free will. Bad things happen to good people to make them better.
The grace of God is there all the time equally to all. Open the window of the heart to receive it. Divinity is our birth­right; Self-effort in right direction is must to re­move hindrances created by our own past deeds. The grace of God also comes expeditiously through our own efforts. Divine grace and OUR SELF EFFORT are one and the same. Self-effort helps to achieve God-realization.
“O Arjuna, you are controlled by your own nature-born Karmic impressions. Therefore, you shall do ¾ even against your will ¾ what you do not wish to do out of delusion.” (18.60)
The mind often knows right and wrong, but it runs after evil ¾ reluctantly ¾ by the force of Karmic footprints called Samskaar.
WE BECOME THE PUPPETS OF OUR OWN FREEWILL
The Supreme Lord — as the controller abiding in the inner psyche of all beings — causes them to work out their Karma like a puppet (of Karma created by the free will) mounted on a machine. (18.61)
To satisfy the free will of the ignorant, overwhelmed by the three modes of material Nature, the good Lord creates an environment conducive for engaging in unwanted actions. As a facilitator, God reciprocates with everyone according to their desires and allows them to fulfill desires generated by free will. Lord uses His illusory kinetic energy called Maya to engage the living entities in good and bad acts according to their desires and their previously accumulated good and bad Karma.
The ignorance is the mother of all evils that keeps the karmic wheel running. Self-knowledge is revealed to a pure mind, and there is no human mind that cannot be purified by a repeated reading of the Gita with faith. ----- R. Prasad
 
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Dear Krish Sir:

Since you posted R. Prasad's view of the world, which impressed YOU, I am making some comments below in bold letters.

Regards.

I read this passage in another forum and I was impressed with the contents.I reproduce the same for the information of all members.
Regds.
Krishnamurthy.B



FREE WILL, KARMA, REINCARNATION, EFFORT, AND GRACE

Our free will is like limited freedom of a dog on a leash. By our own action we loose our free will. We become a puppet of our own Karma. Everything is predetermined.

No.. you have a CHOICE either surrender to TRADITION or Keep our FREE WILL. Nothing is predetermined.

Our future is decided by our Prayer. We do what we think, and we become what we do.

Prayers are just your wishes - what happens to you is determined by your ACTION and by others.

Our thoughts decide our destiny. These actions and their reactions upon us which we call “fate” ( Praarabdham) Our body, mind, intellect, and reasoning are fashioned by these.

This is the view of the Fatalists... Not all.
Nature does all the work. Due to delusion of ignorance or ego, we assume we do all these and incur karmic bondage. Our own actions produce the karmic reactions or bondage. God has made us His tool which we must remember and perform what a tool will have to do for its Master.. With this attitude we will incur no karmic bondage or sin,
The fire of Self-knowledge reduces all bonds of Karma to ashes, O Arjuna, like the blazing fire reduces wood to ashes (Gita 4.37).

Yes, Nature does everything.... this is quite different from the Gods of Vedas, Puranas and Holy Books!
After many births, the enlightened one resorts to Me by realiz­ing that everything is, indeed, My manifestation. Such a great soul is very rare. (Gita 7.19) This is Self-knowledge.
Set aside all meritorious deeds and religious rituals, and just surrender completely to My will with firm faith and loving devotion. I shall liberate you from all sins, the bonds of Karma. Do not grieve. (Gita 18.66)
We will therefore attain Godhood AFTER NO MORE KARMA OR DESIRE IS LEFT.SO WE BECOME GODLIKE IF NOT GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lord actually knows our needs at all times and is simply waiting to be asked for help due to our free will.
We face the result of our own power of rea­soning and free will. Bad things happen to good people to make them better.
The grace of God is there all the time equally to all. Open the window of the heart to receive it. Divinity is our birth­right; Self-effort in right direction is must to re­move hindrances created by our own past deeds. The grace of God also comes expeditiously through our own efforts. Divine grace and OUR SELF EFFORT are one and the same. Self-effort helps to achieve God-realization.
“O Arjuna, you are controlled by your own nature-born Karmic impressions. Therefore, you shall do ¾ even against your will ¾ what you do not wish to do out of delusion.” (18.60)
The mind often knows right and wrong, but it runs after evil ¾ reluctantly ¾ by the force of Karmic footprints called Samskaar.
WE BECOME THE PUPPETS OF OUR OWN FREEWILL
The Supreme Lord — as the controller abiding in the inner psyche of all beings — causes them to work out their Karma like a puppet (of Karma created by the free will) mounted on a machine. (18.61)
To satisfy the free will of the ignorant, overwhelmed by the three modes of material Nature, the good Lord creates an environment conducive for engaging in unwanted actions. As a facilitator, God reciprocates with everyone according to their desires and allows them to fulfill desires generated by free will. Lord uses His illusory kinetic energy called Maya to engage the living entities in good and bad acts according to their desires and their previously accumulated good and bad Karma.
The ignorance is the mother of all evils that keeps the karmic wheel running. Self-knowledge is revealed to a pure mind, and there is no human mind that cannot be purified by a repeated reading of the Gita with faith. ----- R. Prasad

I have said before this: Vedas were written by early "Seers" about 3000 years ago - their View of the World, Religion and Gods.

Mahabharat by the Great Viyasa & Co and BG by Adi Poet Valmiki are FICTIONAL mythologies written just to propagate Vishnu worship in India, as Lord Shiva worship is considered to be Pre-Vedic.

My view is for BELIEVERS these are very Holy Books and whatever said is their ESSENCE of Life...

But, for NON-Believers, it means nothing!
 
Reference post No. above.
I have no further comments or arguments.
I strongly believe that all nonbelievers are SAKTHI worshippers in their home!

As a Non-Believer - a self proclaimed Atheist for the past 40 long years - I can assure you I don't worship any SAKTHI at home or anywhere, if you mean any Goddess or God! ...

But, if you say SAKTHI means Energy... we all have it plenty here!

:)

ps. If you mean that my wife is a Believer - Yes, she is an Agno-Theist - she has plenty of doubts about her Theism....she enjoys lots of my jokes about Janma Poorva Karma; thus, she has not been to the Temple for almost 4 months now! Maybe, she is slowly and steadily becoming an Atheist herself! Wait & watch.
 
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I was always worried whether I will also become a nonbeliever after reading several posts of Thiru.Yamaka.From my childhood,I was not much attracted towards temples.
There is a famous Shirdi SAI Baba temple in Lodhi Raoad,New Delhi and my first daughter is staying very close to that Shrine.I have visited only once.
Today (Thursday)I attended SAI Baba temple in Milipitus,California and enjoyed the Arati and also took food there where more than 500 persons participated.
Now,I feel like attending this shrine more frequently.
I strongly recommend to Thiru.Yamaha to attend Arati in Shirdi Sai Mandir with his wife and children on a regular basis.Slowly He will become a STRONG Believer.
The entire atmosphere was calm and serene(Unlike a regular South India Temples).
 
I was always worried whether I will also become a nonbeliever after reading several posts of Thiru.Yamaka.From my childhood,I was not much attracted towards temples.
There is a famous Shirdi SAI Baba temple in Lodhi Raoad,New Delhi and my first daughter is staying very close to that Shrine.I have visited only once.
Today (Thursday)I attended SAI Baba temple in Milipitus,California and enjoyed the Arati and also took food there where more than 500 persons participated.
Now,I feel like attending this shrine more frequently.
I strongly recommend to Thiru.Yamaha to attend Arati in Shirdi Sai Mandir with his wife and children on a regular basis.Slowly He will become a STRONG Believer.
The entire atmosphere was calm and serene(Unlike a regular South India Temples).

Since you spoke of Shiridi Sai Baba..I hope you enjoy this song.

[video=youtube_share;aPwS1UOSSM4]http://youtu.be/aPwS1UOSSM4[/video]
 
I was always worried whether I will also become a nonbeliever after reading several posts of Thiru.Yamaka.From my childhood,I was not much attracted towards temples.
There is a famous Shirdi SAI Baba temple in Lodhi Raoad,New Delhi and my first daughter is staying very close to that Shrine.I have visited only once.
Today (Thursday)I attended SAI Baba temple in Milipitus,California and enjoyed the Arati and also took food there where more than 500 persons participated.
Now,I feel like attending this shrine more frequently.
I strongly recommend to Thiru.Yamaha to attend Arati in Shirdi Sai Mandir with his wife and children on a regular basis.Slowly He will become a STRONG Believer.
The entire atmosphere was calm and serene(Unlike a regular South India Temples).

Shri Krishnamurthy sir,

Namaskarams.

Temple-going is not imho, any sign of spirituality; at best it helps one to give an outward image of a religious person. For the vast majority of the people who are only interested in living life superficially, going to temple regularly has become a habit which most possibly gives them a sense of having "rendered unto God the things that are God’s”.

Then there are people who cannot do silent solitary prayer to God. Possibly their conscience haunts. Such people rejoice more in group worship, lots of noise and exultation by others and this makes them to silence their restless conscience in the din and bustle.

I do not think Shirdi Sai Baba would ever have wanted his idol to be deified and worshipped like what is now being done by some vested interests trying to make as much money as possible. This imo, is a very sad and despicable practice. Hence, while it is perfectly within your rights to visit and appreciate and extol such temples, I do not think it is correct to recommend such practice to others and hope that they also become believers. Is it not proselytization in one sense?
 
namaste Yamaka.

This is in response to your post #277. If you like verbal fireworks, here is something for you.

1. You depend on your personal BELIEF to guide you in this world and possibly in your "other world".

Then, why do you care for the Science to come and support you or rescue you?

Science REQUIRES reasoning.. and is founded on rationality. Whereas, Belief, by definition, does not require any reasoning!

If you need the support of Science then you need to give up the whole or a part of your BELIEF system! Are you ready?


1. Both my personal BELIEF and your REASONSING are done by our personal brains. The believers' brains see something that yours doesn't. Both of us, however, BELIEVE our brains, as simple.

2. In your anxiety you come up with statements like "Soul weighs 21 grams" or "Soul can be stained and visualized as smudges in a picture" etc... all are terribly ridiculous.

If this is pointed out, you all feel ashamed.. feel hurt.


2. It is not the believers who came up with statements like the weight of the soul. Only some scientists did, in the same way some other scientists investigating the quantum reality of consciousness claim that microleptons have all the answers.

If these are pointed out, you people feel insecure, call their science pseudo-science and seek to trash religious and spiritual beliefs.

Scientific reality is a subset of the larger metaphysical reality in which it is contained. Followers of science cannot afford to deny it, at least as yet.

You assert that "past karma can manifest through genes" in post 276, then people will immediately ask

What's the structural and functional basis of the Jarma Poorva Karma?

Explain, please!


There are two paradigms about the conditional and ultimate reality: one given by science and another by metaphysics.

• The big picture seen by the scientific paradigm is on these lines:

big bang -> expanding universe -> wave and particular reality of the energy the drives the universe -> atoms and molecules as building blocks of the insentient world -> primordial soup -> birth of life-bulding biological components -> cellular lives -> evolution -> man.

The primordial soup theory of life is a belief because scientists have not been able to verify it experimentally: Primordial Soup Theory

In this model, Science is yet to find out how sentient life with consciousness evolved from the action of the insentient components in the primordial soup. All actions that constitute the physical karma, so to say, are resolved under the law of conservation of energy.

• The big picture seen by the metaphysical paradigm is something as follows:

brahman as universal consciousness which is undefinable by senses -> life-force and universe projected out of brahman with its consciousness as substratum -> creation of sentient and insentient forms of the world -> ensouling the forms -> creation of individual souls with man at the top -> cycled involution of the sentient and insentient beings into their source -> souls with karmic balances caught in the reincarnation cycle -> souls with no karma getting liberated out of the reincarnation cycle.

In this model it is the life-force of consciousness that sustains the insentient and sentient forms, staying as a witness to their actions, interactions and reactions. All actions that result in metaphysical karma are resolved in the cycle of reincarnation.

The metaphysical paradigm is satisfactory to most people in the world because it establishes the uniqueness of man and recognises the divinity in his consciousness, which is the only force that can propel him into the involution curve.

Unless and until science finds a final and physical answer to consciousness, its followers can only resort to abject denial of the paradigm of metaphysical reality.
 
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namaste smt.HH and others.

You said in post #269:
May i know which seers please? Can you provide some evidence from brahmanical literature in support of your statements (about the brain) that such things were already known to "our" seers? Lets leave aside Julius Schumacher and his views. May i know which hindu seers have conveyed such things?

Incidentally, what is the Sanskrit word for brain? Yea, I got it: mastiShkaM, go(r)daM. Checking with Ayurveda, I have the following, for a start (emphasis in the original quote):

The mastiShka or the brain is considered to be an 'instrument' through which the manas or the mind is able to reveal its effect. It governs both the indriyas namely the sensory and motor organs (gnana indriyas and karma indriyas respectively).(sushruta sUtra12:5)

The mastiShka having received the sense impressions processes the data collected, and in turn stimulates the motor organs (karma indriyas) and other internal organs to function. The manas (mind) characterises one's pattern of response and individuality in time (kAla) and space or environment (dik).

Ref: Treatise on Ayurveda - Srikantha Arunachalan - Google Books
 
namaste Prasad.

Further to the quote on intelligence in your post #270, there is a popular idiom about science:

To blind (someone) with science "confuse by the use of big words or complex explanations" is attested from 1937, originally noted as a phrase from Australia and New Zealand.
Online Etymology Dictionary
 
"The primordial soup theory of life is a belief because scientists have not been able to verify it experimentally" Saidevo in post 290.

Scientists have gone FAR beyond this primordial soup, confirming everything they predicted in the last 60 years (perhaps in our short life time, events that happened billion year ago!!):

1. They have chemically synthesized all the amino acids, polypeptides (that is, proteins) and nucleic acids (DNA and RNA) including all organic acids like pyruvic acid and sugars like glucose, fructose etc etc.

These are all the building blocks or the structural basis of LIFE.

2. They have defined the Genetic Dogma: DNA to RNA to Protein; a modification of this in retroviral biology: RNA to DNA to RNA to Protein. And they have elucidated the Genetic Code: How four bases like A, G, C, T code for specific proteins via RNA etc etc. By aligning these 4 letters in very many ways, the human genome makes about 30,000 different proteins (some are structural like muscle proteins and others are enzymes like RNA polymerases and pyruvate kinase) which give rise to LIFE.

3. They have synthesized large synthetic DNA plasmids and expressed into proteins the "life molecules".

4. They have cloned very many mammals successfully (human cloning is going on unofficially in very many labs).

In fact, yesterday, I heard that Chinese scientists have cloned a Miracle Pig which survived a earth quake for several months under ground eating coal and drinking contaminated water.. now they have 6 piglings: they raise 2 in each in different environment to study their behavior. One set is raised in the original setting of the clone mother, another set is raised in Museum of Science and another in a totally different set up.

The result will show light into the question of what's the contribution of genes and what's the influence of environment in the life of mammals (this is the issue of Nature Vs Nurture).

This can be done for humans also, as I was talking about cloning Steve Jobs, Bill Gates (or Yamaka Lol)

You see, Science is progressing everyday opening up new vista into the intricacies of Nature.

I urge you all to discard the God Theory, and become Naturalists... then you need to stop doing poojas, prayers and bhajans to your non-existent Gods! For, Nature will not listen to you at all... it does what's governed by the laws of physics, chemistry, biology/medicine, astronomy etc. etc.

"brahman as universal consciousness which is undefinable by senses -> life-force and universe projected out of brahman with its consciousness as substratum -> creation of sentient and insentient forms of the world -> ensouling the forms -> creation of individual souls with man at the top -> cycled involution of the sentient and insentient beings into their source -> souls with karmic balances caught in the reincarnation cycle -> souls with no karma getting liberated out of the reincarnation cycle."

This is just a FANTASY or FICTION propounded by some Believers... there is no possible way of testing any of this hypothesis... because it's just a BELIEF... it will remain as a BELIEF....

Peace.
 
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Dear Krish Sir:

Mahabharat by the Great Viyasa & Co and BG by Adi Poet Valmiki are FICTIONAL mythologies written just to propagate Vishnu worship in India, as Lord Shiva worship is considered to be Pre-Vedic.

But, for NON-Believers, it means nothing!

This is completely wrong. The Shiva of Vedas represent auspiciousness. Vishnu means pervasive. [even in Rig veda]
agnir vai devānām avamo vishṇuḥ paramas, tadantareṇa sarvā anyā devtā - "Agni is the lowest and Vishnu is the highest among Devas. All other deities occupy positions that are in between." Rig Veda 1.1.1

Even in upanishads esp. Subala, the parts of our human body is compared to these gods:
InnerSelf/Consciousness is Brahman [Vibhu/Pervasive] cannot be other than Vishnu,
Intellect is Brahma, Mind/Ego is Rudra, Prana is Indra [who reigns all organs/gods incl Intellect/Mind], Prana is the ruler of all other activities of the body like Activity/Acids/Fire/Agni, and the sense organs [sun as eye, vayu as hearing, speech as saraswati, etc..]

Vishnu Purana was authored by Parasara, son of Vashista was instructed by Pulastya after obtaining the knowledge from Brahma. The foremost descendants to the earth were from dhruva, the grandson of Manu.
Manu (Hinduism) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. "The ten sons of Manu are known as Vena, Dhrishnu,Narishyan, Nabhaga, Ikshvaku, Karusha, Saryati, the eighth, a daughter named Ila, Prishadhru the ninth, and Nabhagarishta, the tenth. They were brahmanas, they all betook themselves to the practices of Kshatriyas. He is born to Manu after the deluge which sends the King's ship [after being saved by Vishnu's Matsya Avatar] to the top of the Malaya Mountains in the Dravida country, possibly Kerala.

The Blessed Lord said: I instructed this imperishable science of yoga to the sun-god, Vivasvan, and Vivasvan instructed it to Manu, the father of mankind, and Manu in turn instructed it to Ikshvaku. Gita 4-1.

There is no inconsistency, between those smritis. Shiva represents only Vishnu, the deity Rudra was not originally Shiva. Aryan Invasion is a mis-construed theory.
 
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namaste everyone.

In reply to my query in post #194 about experiments about the supposed evolution of man from primates, HappyHindu in her post #197 said "Transgenic animals are possible."

I happened to spot a link that says,
Hybrid Human-Animal DNA Experiments Raise Concerns - Slashdot

Efforts of making animals be part humans are fraught with many dangers. Although a sci-fi film like the 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' might be far from becoming a reality, humanated animals might not only acquire unique human attributes like facial features, skin or speech, but may also acquire the human mental attributes like greed, anger, selfishness and craze for power--that is, if the genes are connected to emotional traits.

Who knows what can this lead to? Your immediate boss in future could be a 'manimal' or 'animan'! Worse, just like man prefers animal meat, these 'animen' might prefer human meat and human girls! Or the asuras and rAkShasas of bygone yugas may come back.

Seriously, the search text "mixing of human and animal DNA" produces over 10,000 results, many of which are likely to gloat over the success stories of science. Is science going to be a boon or bane for humanity?
 
namaste everyone.

In reply to my query in post #194 about experiments about the supposed evolution of man from primates, HappyHindu in her post #197 said "Transgenic animals are possible."

I happened to spot a link that says,
Hybrid Human-Animal DNA Experiments Raise Concerns - Slashdot

Efforts of making animals be part humans are fraught with many dangers. Although a sci-fi film like the 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' might be far from becoming a reality, humanated animals might not only acquire unique human attributes like facial features, skin or speech, but may also acquire the human mental attributes like greed, anger, selfishness and craze for power--that is, if the genes are connected to emotional traits.

Who knows what can this lead to? Your immediate boss in future could be a 'manimal' or 'animan'! Worse, just like man prefers animal meat, these 'animen' might prefer human meat and human girls! Or the asuras and rAkShasas of bygone yugas may come back.

Seriously, the search text "mixing of human and animal DNA" produces over 10,000 results, many of which are likely to gloat over the success stories of science. Is science going to be a boon or bane for humanity?


If a pig with Human DNA is able to produce A heart valve that can be transplanted in a human with less rejection, What is wrong?

By injecting human DNA in lab mice they able to grow human ears, which can be transplanted on a human, What is wrong.

We are already eating genetically modified foods.

There was an experimental DNA implant in a cat from an octopus and the cat glows in dark. There might be some use.

They are finding some animal genes that cures some disease, what is wrong?
 
namaste Prasad.

Alfred Bernhard Nobel invented the dynamite in good faith about its positive uses. Scientists are not immune to the pressures of human greed for power, which can make them shape up science the way it should not be.
 
Mr. Sai,
If one stays in the past, and lament about the good old days in the present, will it solve any problem? World is moving forward, either go with the progress or be left behind.

"Only when you are truly happy, you can be concerned about somebody. When you are unhappy you are only concerned about yourself."
 
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namaste Prasad.

I have only hinted at the possibility that the application of science is always double-ediged. If science can make you truly happy, I have no problem with it, except that in my case I need both happiness and peace, which science alone cannot offer me.
 
namaste Prasad.

I have only hinted at the possibility that the application of science is always double-ediged. If science can make you truly happy, I have no problem with it, except that in my case I need both happiness and peace, which science alone cannot offer me.

Science ALONE can give happiness and healthy life, if you choose to understand it...

If not, it's upto YOU...your CHOICE.

....but when you get a headache please take a pain killer or visit a physician's office... don't ask the METAPHYSICAL theories to come and comfort you!

Cheers.

ps. I am very encouraged that more and more people of younger generation ARE turning more scientific and logical and are walking away from religions, gods and metaphysical world... we are moving in the right direction. Wait & watch.
 
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