Worshipping while Menstruating: What's wrong in it?

[Kuvalayavalli]

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......I will try to use the powers that has helped me solve many serious problems, to this missing malaysian plane.....

What were you doing all these days sir? I am sure you will never again come back about this matter in this forum. You will diplomatically remain silent.

 

[Kuvalayavalli]

That is why JK has no followers. He was disinherited by his adopted mother and guru. Anybody can say anything. But if the teachings are not in line with bharateeya culture, tradition and scriptures, they will simply evaporate.

JK advised everyone not to follow anyone, including him. JK further advised everyone to follow their inner voice, to query, to introspect, to find out for themselves the truth. Please read his booklet "Truth is a pathless land".

 

[Kuvalayavalli]

If a women's period occurs when she is in a temple, praying, worhshipping, folding her hands, at that instant would the temple be profaned? Is there any means to predict the exact moment when period would occur and hence either refrain visiting a temple or forcibly defer period to avoid profaning/desecrating temple?????

 

[Kuvalayavalli]

..... It had become a popular practice according
to our Shastras. According to Hinduism it is termed as ritually impure. ......

Evidence from scripture please. Quote the scripture, verse etc.

 

[sravna]

What were you doing all these days sir?

A lot of productive work.

I am sure you will never again come back about this matter in this forum. You will diplomatically remain silent.

I am not sure whether the powers I used to solve many problems will work or not. I am just going to try. It might work. So it is wise not to be certain about something when there is not enough information to think that way.

 

[Kuvalayavalli]

Dear RR ji,

Actually after I read a line about what J.Krishnamurti thought about Gandhi fighting for the rights of Dalits to enter temple...I feel now this whole menses stuff is just no big deal.

Ok it goes like this..someone asked J.Krishnamurti about Ghandi's struggle for the Dalits to be permitted into the temples. All J.Krishnamurti said is "But God is not in the temples"

.......

.....made of men's hands. Heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain His glory, let alone temple made of brick and morter by men. God dwells in a temple He Himself made. And that is the human body, inside the heart of a man or a woman who is alive in spirit, inside children.

I am reminded of a song in a Tamil film which goes like this "Kadavul oru naal ulagai kaana thaniye vandhaaram. Kannil kanda manidharai ellam 'nalama?' endraraam". A line goes like this in the song interpretated, he met children and found Himself in them (kallam illa ullam thannil thannai kandaaram). He was contented and gratified at last that Truth indeed prevails in the world He created.

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Renu,

What you say is correct! Human body contains lot of impure stuff (hope you will agree those are impure, at least!!)

Only when they come out, they are yucks!
P.S: May be, the oldies who can not hold their #1 for long, can visit temples tension free, with adult diapers! eace:

 

[prasad1]

Dear Renu,

What you say is correct! Human body contains lot of impure stuff (hope you will agree those are impure, at least!!)

Only when they come out, they are yucks!
P.S: May be, the oldies who can not hold their #1 for long, can visit temples tension free, with adult diapers! eace:

What about a newborn, should they be allowed in the Temple, are they not impure? Just a rhetorical question, as I know the answer.

 

[Raji Ram]

What about a newborn, should they be allowed in the Temple, are they not impure? Just a rhetorical question, as I know the answer.

I expected this from you, Prasad Sir!

I know that a new born with diaper is allowed in temples!

So...... why not extend it to the 'second childhood' too?

After all, there won't be any sniff dog to :spy: the adult diaper!

 

[krish44]

Dear RR ji,

There are new types of weaved pads called Super dry weave..its gives a dry feel..so no more wet worries.

BTW what about incontinent elder people who wear adult diapers..its soaked with urine too..should they be disallowed in temples? Even a normal sneeze can trigger urine let down in a person who has a weak pelvic floor and some wear pads to absorb the urine..should they stay away from temples too?

Why is bleeding of men totally different?

When I use my scalpel for minor surgery every human bleeds the same.

Its a perception and a false belief that has been drilled into our heads that a female is impure and a male is pure.

Its not all about male vs female here ..its about a person learning to respect her own body and its biological functions and same way a male should also know how to respect his own body and stop meddling about the body of a female in terms of purity.

No one elected a man to be in charge of women's bodily affairs.

last line'no.........affairs'

I have been wise once in life
After seeing the heading of the thread , skipped it.

opened it only to decide to skip it again

could not help my comment.lol

aasai yarai vittuthu

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Krish Sir,

Did you see that many men (hope so, by the id!) are eager to participate in this thread! :typing:

And...... dear Prasad Ji is the OP!

P.S: Who knows? He might also become a leader like Raja Ram Mohan Roy, Gandhiji et al. :thumb: . . . :hail:

 

[renuka]

Dear Krish Sir,

Did you see that many men (hope so, by the id!) are eager to participate in this thread! :typing:

And...... dear Prasad Ji is the OP!

P.S: Who knows? He might also become a leader like Raja Ram Mohan Roy, Gandhiji et al. :thumb: . . . :hail:

Dear RR ji,

I am going to start a thread about men and when worshiped is not allowed for them.

One which days they can and they cant.

Lets see how many people participate!LOL

 

[sarang]

You may know what is done in guruvayur when a child or baby does i or 2 in the nadai. But elephants get a different treatment!

I expected this from you, Prasad Sir!

I know that a new born with diaper is allowed in temples!

So...... why not extend it to the 'second childhood' too?

After all, there won't be any sniff dog to :spy: the adult diaper!

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Sarang Sir,

There is a belief that if someone stamps on the fresh dung of an elephant, they will never get arthritis!

But the only kid in our family, who bravely did this 'feat' has the most serious knee problem now! :sad:

 

[sarang]

Whether it will cure arthritis or cracked feet, fresh drops are warm, dry, non-sticky, fibrous and as good as a hot foot bath!

The kid, anticipating arthritis, should have knelt on it instead of stamping.

Dear Sarang Sir,

There is a belief that if someone stamps on the fresh dung of an elephant, they will never get arthritis!

But the only kid in our family, who bravely did this 'feat' has the most serious knee problem now! :sad:

 

[renuka]

I have noted that many women actually love following traditions that restrict them.

None of my female cousins from both sides actually dare 'break' any rule.

When they see me breaking every rule possible they actually get scared of me even though I am older than them.

I have no idea how some can follow everything and some can never follow anything.

I am starting to wonder if I am adopted cos no one from both sides of the family thinks like me!LOL

I remember when I was a teen my younger female cousin told me that her mother told her if she lied God would pierce her eyes.

I told my cousin that it was her mother who spoke the half truth.

I said one should always speak the truth but not lie that God would pierce our eyes.

 

[biswa]

Renukaji, it is well known that women like to follow rules and always play by the book. They are a martial race who always like discipline. That's why female bosses are tough.

Both men and women favor a male boss with whom they feel they can relax a little.

 

[renuka]

Renukaji, it is well known that women like to follow rules and always play by the book. They are a martial race who always like discipline. That's why female bosses are tough.

Both men and women favor a male boss with whom they feel they can relax a little.

Biswa ji,

Isnt that too stressful..to always play by the book especially when it involves restricting your own self?

Doesnt anyone feel like breaking away and walking a free person?

At times culture and tradition is so self satisfying only when we are slaves to it..why be a slave especially when some traditions could even be the untruth!

Do we need slavery and untruth? Why not break free?

I remember this song now!

I want to break free
I want to break free
I want to break free from your lies
You're so self satisfied I don't need you
I've got to break free
God knows, God knows I want to break free

 

[prasad1]

I have noted that many women actually love following traditions that restrict them.

None of my female cousins from both sides actually dare 'break' any rule.

When they see me breaking every rule possible they actually get scared of me even though I am older than them.

I have no idea how some can follow everything and some can never follow anything.

I am starting to wonder if I am adopted cos no one from both sides of the family thinks like me!LOL

I remember when I was a teen my younger female cousin told me that her mother told her if she lied God would pierce her eyes.

I told my cousin that it was her mother who spoke the half truth.

I said one should always speak the truth but not lie that God would pierce our eyes.

People are scared of breaking rules.
Fist of all this is instilled in us by our elders, they themselves did not know the answers, so if you question any rules they look stupid, so you are told some cock and bull stories so you would stop pestering them.

Now you know why Nachiketa was punished. I have no qualms in accepting my limited knowledge. My daughter even today can ask me any question, and she knows she will get an honest answer.

 

[Iyyarooraan]

Agreed..then why people still do Sharddham for departed ancestors?

Since souls dont need peace they should not be needing Pinda and Water too isnt it?

Out of fear - our ancestors have instilled in us. They will come as ghosts and threaten us and our children.

 

[tks]

Out of fear - our ancestors have instilled in us. They will come as ghosts and threaten us and our children.

All human religions and their traditions have their existence in fear and ability to fulfill desires. Traces of fear remains until there is knowledge.
Swami Vivekananda's quote about what our teachings emphasize is fearlessness.

In fact the quote is " If you read the Vedas, you will find this word always repeated — fearlessness — fear nothing. Fear is a sign of weakness. A man must go about his duties without taking notice of the sneers and the ridicule of the world."

It is better to do all Nithyakarma and other such rituals with understanding of the significance (why, when what where, how etc). Shraddham is one such ritual. My own opinion is that it is better to not do anything out of fear.

 

[prasad1]

US consumer giant seeks to smash India menstruation taboos
The latest commercial for Procter and Gamble's top-selling brand of sanitary pads in India ticks all the usual boxes -- a young woman jogs happily in pristine white trousers, before effortlessly winning a tennis tournament.


But unlike most adverts of its ilk, this 30-second clip seeks to dispel the myths surrounding women's periods in a country where deep-rooted social taboos around menstruation still persist.


It ends with the catchphrase "touch the pickle", a reference to the widely held belief that a jar of pickle touched by a menstruating woman will spoil -- and an exhortation to young Indian women to reject such superstitions.


Procter and Gamble, the US consumer goods giant behind some of the world's biggest brands, said it was astonished to learn that such "primitive practices" remained prevalent in modern-day India.

May be this is the needed push.

 

[sadasivam.sridharan]

All human religions and their traditions have their existence in fear and ability to fulfill desires. Traces of fear remains until there is knowledge.
Swami Vivekananda's quote about what our teachings emphasize is fearlessness.

In fact the quote is " If you read the Vedas, you will find this word always repeated — fearlessness — fear nothing. Fear is a sign of weakness. A man must go about his duties without taking notice of the sneers and the ridicule of the world."




It is better to do all Nithyakarma and other such rituals with understanding of the significance (why, when what where, how etc). Shraddham is one such ritual. My own opinion is that it is better to not do anything out of fear.

Our scriptures do not say that we have to observe our nithya karma anushtana out fear. Karma anushtana is to be observed with absolute faith that it is for our well being in the form of atma suddi,mana shanti and kshemam of our children.The word shraadam it self means faith and not anything else that threatens us.