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Brahmin Girls Marrying (Attracted towards) NB Boys

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Seshadri Subramaniam said:
A sincere appeal to all Brahmin guys - please develop your physique as well... it pays...
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absolutely, in more ways than one.

a good physique, goes hand in hand with the intellect.

it develops one's confidence, ability to handle oneself in public, a sense of boldness and a deterrence to any bulllying.

a strong person, also becomes more silent, enigmatic and a source of attraction.

go for it guys :)
 
irukkarddhu renday jathi ulagathillay=aan jathi & penn jathi.That too only physical differences,but with todays education imparted,the mental faculties function exactly alike and are in synchronisation.

sb
 
Seshadri Subramaniam said:
Yeah... no prizes for guessing...

Maybe we can change the term to "Andhanars"...
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gr8 .. then why not call a spade a spade ... iyer/iyengar does not mean brahmanan ... high time we started to make , emphasise and re-recognise this distinction for our own good ...

and btw .. sri soota muni was born to a "brahmin" mother and a non-"brahmin" father (romaharshanar)...
 
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s007bala said:
irukkarddhu renday jathi ulagathillay=aan jathi & penn jathi.That too only physical differences,but with todays education imparted,the mental faculties function exactly alike and are in synchronisation.

sb
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Adhu vera classification... physical forms vechu paartha...

When you go to the consciousness, there are no differences...

So it all depends on which level we are speaking from... we are not gnyanis, but a group of people who follow grihastha way of life... and even though we may have limitations, it is enough that we do our karma to qualify for the highest level...

Sanyasam is not for everyone... if everyone become sanyasis, what would happen to the furtherance of life? So everything has its place and relativity...
 
vivekam.vairagyam said:
gr8 .. then why not call a spade a spade ... iyer/iyengar does not mean brahmanan ... high time we started to make , emphasise and re-recognise this distinction for our own good ...

and btw .. sri soota muni was born to a "brahmin" mother and a non-"brahmin" father (romaharshanar)...
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I dont think there would be a problem with names... andhanan is fine for me... no brahmin today calls himself a "brahma gnyani"... he is just following the traditional way handed out over to him by his forefathers... if the trouble is in a name, then perhaps we should change our "common denomination" to something else, like "Vedics", "Shastrics" etc... but I seriously doubt whether that is the issue here???

btw when did the word brahmin came to be commonly denoted to castes?
 
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btw when did the word brahmin came to be commonly denoted to castes?
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when raajas became 'koojas' and unfit to administer populace of various king/queen domes!!:(
 
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Seshadri Subramaniam said:
Adhu vera classification... physical forms vechu paartha...

When you go to the consciousness, there are no differences...

So it all depends on which level we are speaking from... we are not gnyanis, but a group of people who follow grihastha way of life... and even though we may have limitations, it is enough that we do our karma to qualify for the highest level...

Sanyasam is not for everyone... if everyone become sanyasis, what would happen to the furtherance of life? So everything has its place and relativity...
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iduella enna gyanam irukku,thambi?jathi or classification is male & female.its moronic baboons amongst humans which went & differentiated,which as norrmally abnormal thinking.

aum saha naa vavatu saha nau bhunaktu
saha viryam kara vaa vahaiH
tejaswi navadhI tamastu maa vid vi shavahaiH
oum shanti Sshanti SshantiH

Here ’saha’ refers to together, ‘naa’ and ‘nau’ referers to we/us

Meaning : Let us enjoy the life together, let us eat together,
let us/we engage ourselves to work with, let us join our energies in order to support to us in adversities and we do not make anything or we say anything that it can poison our being together

OR

O God Almighty! Protect us both, nourish us both, and let us be strong together in unity, let our
knowledge shine and let us not be defeated in intellectual exercises; let us be joined together in friendship for ever, and let no enmity ever come between us.
Let there be Peace! Peace!! Peace!!!

Brahmin is a person who has understood Brahma/Brahman (i,e the universal soul)

So Brahman/Brahmin is a person with Brahma Jnyana (universal knowledge).

sb:hail:
 
vivekam.vairagyam said:
gr8 .. then why not call a spade a spade ... iyer/iyengar does not mean brahmanan ... high time we started to make , emphasise and re-recognise this distinction for our own good ...

and btw .. sri soota muni was born to a "brahmin" mother and a non-"brahmin" father (romaharshanar)...
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"Interpretation of the caste system

Madhva interprets the concept of varna mentioned in the Vedas (Purusha Sooktha) as not being defined by birth, but by the nature of a soul. For example a soul having the nature of a brahmin could have been born as a shudra and vice versa. The caste system decided by birth is actually jaati and not varna. The varnas simply define the disposition of the soul, for example a soul classified as BrahmaNa varna is disposed towards learning, a kshatriya soul is disposed towards administration and a shudra soul is disposed towards performing service."


source - wikipedia (dvaita)
 
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Seshadri Subramaniam said:
"Interpretation of the caste system

Madhva interprets the concept of varna mentioned in the Vedas (Purusha Sooktha) as not being defined by birth, but by the nature of a soul. For example a soul having the nature of a brahmin could have been born as a shudra and vice versa. The caste system decided by birth is actually jaati and not varna. The varnas simply define the disposition of the soul, for example a soul classified as BrahmaNa varna is disposed towards learning, a kshatriya soul is disposed towards administration and a shudra soul is disposed towards performing service."


source - wikipedia (dvaita)
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thnx ss.very nice explanation.marriage also shud be between such like minded atmas,not by jathis will be one school of thought.another school will be only by jathi we shud get married.but ultimately marriage is between two individuals,man & woman,and their innate sense of intelligence which carries them thru together.

Satyam bruyat priyam bruyat na bruyat satyam apriyam

priyam cha nanrutam bruyat esha dharmah sanatanah

Only speak the truth that is pleasant to others
Do not speak the truth that might be unpleasant to others
Never speak untruth that is pleasant to others
This is the path of the eternal morality called Sanatana Dharma.

sb
 
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A girl taking birth in a brahmin family is an opportunity given by God to follow brahminical principles but, if the girl decides to marry outside of brahmin then there is no rule to prevent it.

The girl after marrying a non brahmin will at once become whatever the caste of the Groom.
 
As per Indian laws also if a Brahmin girl marries a boy of some other caste, the child get the caste of the father only. At the same time, a Brahmin boy marries a girl from some other caste, the child is considered as Brahmin only as per the law.

எண்ணாயிரம் ஆண்டு யோகம் இருப்பினும் கண்ணார் அமுதனை கண்டறிவாரில்லை உள் நாடி ஒளி பெற உள்ளே நோக்கினார் கண்ணாடி போல கலந்து நின்றானே
 
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R.Venkataramani said:
As per Indian laws also if a Brahmin girl marries a boy of some other caste, the child get the caste of the father only. At the same time, a Brahmin boy marries a girl from some other caste, the child is considered as Brahmin only as per the law.

எண்ணாயிரம் ஆண்டு யோகம் இருப்பினும் கண்ணார் அமுதனை கண்டறிவாரில்லை உள் நாடி ஒளி பெற உள்ளே நோக்கினார் கண்ணாடி போல கலந்து நின்றானே
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ஸ்ரீ ஆர்ர் வீ ,
ரொம்ப தேங்க்ஸ் சார் .என்னக்கு ஒரே குஷி இந்து உண்மை நீங்க சொன்னப்பிரம் .நன்றி.

Shree RV,

Thanks sir,for sharing this law with us.Very happy indeed sir to know this.Thank you!.

gopal.
 
Caste decided by father's caste

R.Venkataramani said:
As per Indian laws also if a Brahmin girl marries a boy of some other caste, the child get the caste of the father only. At the same time, a Brahmin boy marries a girl from some other caste, the child is considered as Brahmin only as per the law.
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I remember latest supreme court judgement, that father's caste is to be considered to be the caste of that child, in case of intercaste marriages.

This would be much simpler, logical and generic. Otherwise, law has to be written for 1000+ castes and its combination.
 
It is quite strange that a nation which has outlawed Jaathi as a factor to be discriminated on, still is classifying at the highest level of courts which Jaathi a 'mixed breed' person belongs to! In my opinion this again perpetuates the evils of this system.

Jaathis and related traditions are best confined to inside the four walls of a home. They have no place in a modern nation's civic arena, where egalitarianism and meritocracy should be the only recognized qulaties to evaluate a person. Poverty should be the only criteria for the social programs to uplift the masses.

It would have been much better if the nation's Supreme Court has started recognizing such 'mixed Jaathi' persons as just the 'children of modern India'. This would have provided for starting the elimination of Jaathi recognition in the civic affairs. And this must be applied to inter faith marriages too. Such a unique classification is justified as the associated marriages out of the Jaathi norms.

I think the courts have missed a very good opportunity to start eliminating the pernicious influence of Jaathis in the public affairs. What a pity!

Regards,
KRS
 
Every human being is born with the right to live, to find a mate, to speak and think freely. These are fundamental freedoms and everyone on the face of the earth should have them. - Albert Einstein’s concept of ‘World Citizenship’
Every boy and girl whether B or NB, has the freedom to choose his/her partner. If a community wants the young to stay within the fold, it is the responsibility of the community and the parents to create an have an environment where the young will feel comfortable to stay. If our boys and girls are 'attracted' towards NB, then there should be something fundamentally wrong in the society, I mean our community.
Now, in the recent years, the craze for more money has eroded long cherished values. Young boys and girls work together, even during nights, in the so-called call centres and such places of work. As KRS rightly said it is like placing the fuel next to the fire. I am not against girls going to work. Our society kept the womenfolk within a framework even if they had been academically educated. Now, the present trend encouraged by governments that are averse to our cherished values has made the young to stray into the open. A cow or a dog when released from the harness jump for some time before settling down to normal stride.
I think we should wait and try to build up our tradition among the young.
 
uksharma3 said:
I am not against girls going to work. Our society kept the womenfolk within a framework even if they had been academically educated. Now, the present trend encouraged by governments that are averse to our cherished values has made the young to stray into the open. A cow or a dog when released from the harness jump for some time before settling down to normal stride.
I think we should wait and try to build up our tradition among the young.
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Sir, are you saying that girls are like cows and dogs that jump out of the harness before settling to a normal stride? Am not sure what you may mean by keeping women "within a framework even if they had been academically educated". And do the same rules apply to a man?

It might be possible that this type of 'controlling' attitude amongst males and elders contribute to girls from certain communities (not just brahmin alone) choosing a life partner outside of that community.
 
Sri Uksharma3 ji,

We have to encourage education as well as career development of our children. However it is the responsibility of the parents to simultaneously impart our values, traditions and customs on them. In most of the cases I have closely watched, it is the parents who fail to perform the duties. It is not like olden days when child marriages are prevalent. When our children are ready for marriage, it is almost around 25 plus or minus for both boys & girls.

At that age, they are capable of taking independent decisions. However children who are accustomed to family values and traditions don't jump out of the lakshman rekha. It is applicable to both boys and girls.

Please don't think that only girls jump out of the system. Boys are also jumping out. It is the parents responsiblity to bring their children at the right path. Working environment like call centers and night shift alone are not the root causes of the problem. Lot of boys and girls working in such environment display better maturity.

Please don't use the words dogs & cow against our girls.

எண்ணாயிரம் ஆண்டு யோகம் இருப்பினும் கண்ணார் அமுதனை கண்டறிவாரில்லை உள் நாடி ஒளி பெற உள்ளே நோக்கினார் கண்ணாடி போல கலந்து நின்றானே
 
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In todays circumstances,bodily needs are not met nor their intellectual needs.If mating is a crime,then we all are criminals.

With modern medicine and technology reaching the peak of innovation,standards of life and living will take a drastic turn,sometimes colliding with well established cultural norms and traditions.

This is Kalki Yugam,people.Thank you.

gopal.
 
being from the gen y i can't help but laugh at the same time feel pity upon us as indians and brahmins as a community. while we are blatantly aping the west and even as our clothes are getting smaller and smaller in the so called modern world our minds are getting narrower and thoughts corrupted. while people in the west are increasingly taking to our values and customs, blame it on globalization. one of the simplest examples is it is cool to sip a coke or a pepsi but it u take butter milk u r jeered at, while it is cool to eat with spoons, knife and forks u cant use your own hand to eat the food just because it is not accepted outside india. many reputed firms impart training on etiquette. in my opinion and rightly pointed out in the earlier post, education and training by parents play a very important role. it is a well known fact that a child starts learning from its mother even while in her womb and even modern science supports this. which means the mother is the first teacher.

regarding the mixing of races and jatis, and b girls marrying nb boys or vice versa, i would like to point out to the swayamvara practice which was followed where in the girl was given free hand to choose her groom.
 
I think boy and girl should choose their life partners,and get their approval from parents,elders.In my perspective,love knows no borders,skin tones,beauty..etc.Love is magic,it happens.Where there is love god surely resides.Nobody has anyright to stop loving one another.Thank you.

gopal.
 
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