Brahmin Girls Marrying (Attracted towards) NB Boys

[Ganesh Sharma]

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Those doing this kind of acts,doing great treachery to the great traditions and culture of Brahmins.
Those youngsters very often brainwashed our Media and other evil elements who are inimical and against Brahmins.
Parents also to blame.They have not talked much to their kids about their culture and traditions besides great Brahman heritage.
For this first,parents know this properly.
Our strength and our blessing from the Gods and our ancestors(Rishis) exists still we are sincere Brahmins following our Kula Dharma.
If this is lost, cant got for ever what ever be ones position and power.
This should be taken to our youngsters by all of their parents.

 

[Ganesh Sharma]

Again,Iam very much astonished to note that father of the girl who like to marry NB is very orthodox seeing 6 Kala Pujas of Nataraja.
Where is duty of this father to his daughter.Is he thinks by his orthodoxy, God will come to explain everything on Brahmin culture and Brahmin values to his daughter.
Spirituality is elevate our soul to higher level which nowhere compensate the basic duties to our kids.
Parents should have the guts to talk something straight to their children irrespective of what others think about their guidance!
It is their culture and generation matters much!

My knowledge goes,in this kind of orthodox families only this kind of things occur more.
Because,here is blatant failure of responsibility and broad communication gap within parents and kids.
I ask personally,how many time these parents talked about our Brahmin heritage and how in very adverse condition in the past, this is safe guarded by our ancestors historically to sow proud in their minds about their heritage.
As I said previously,every parents should know and think proud their heritage.
Not only Pooja but also value and prudent traditions of Brahmins and their benefits properly hammered very often in our youngsters mind because outside lot of fraudulent lies very much inserted into their mind.
If properly taught by our parents,then our youngsters very much understand the evil brain washing attempt on otherside against Brahmins.
In this case,they will be very careful and responsible in safeguarding their invaluable heritage.

 

[R. Ramanujan]

During my stay in Srirangam I came across a classic case of brah girl and non brah boy.
In chtraveedhi st a girl's father refused to allow her to elope with his non brah frnd.
She attempted self immolation and died in hospital with 90 percent burn injuries.

Had the father accepted her choice at least the girl would have been alive now. Anyways Its a personal choice. Its 21st century. ppls attitude are changing. ppl are more broad minded. I feel community members should be more understanding of their kids so that precious lives can be saved.
Similary there was yet another case. In our institute a chetti telegu boy named balaji. He once saw the girl(a tenkalai) who happens to reside next to institute. He talked generally as to how is studies going? etc etc. Then next day when I was in the institute I saw 3 police guys comming to inst asking for balaji saying a molestation case has been registered by 14 local ppl. I was in shock coz he was my dear frnd a good hearted guy. He was at that time in chakrataalvar sannadi. I sms him to stay there. Sir also told him to not to come to inst till this issue gets resolved. A police case is enough to destroy ur career and aspirations. And TN police is famous for its brutality. They take law into their own hands. Some how Sir whose wife is majistrate in chennai convinced and assured the community there that that boy will mind his business so kindly take the case back. They obliged. Thank fully this case ended in a good way.

But wat if case against him wasnt taken back. He would have been beaten up. Humiliated. with his career over he would certainly contemplate either sucide or taking revenge. In north they just throw acid at their face to take revenge.
Idhu ellam tevaia nammaku. I hope ppl have learnt some thing from this.

 

[senthil]

how many non-brahmin girls willing to marry brahmin boys, and even if they do so, how many non-brahmin girls are ready to follow brahmin customs..

So i accuse those liberals, that in the name of individual rights, they are destroying a culture and a civilization..

Next, a son or daughter depends entirely on their parents for all their expenses.. it is the parents who spend money for school, for hospitals, for dresses.. it is the parents who sweat so much to ensure their son or daughter gets a professional degress (whether medical or engineering or arts degree).. and it is based on this degree that, these sons or daughters get a good paying job..

But after extracting and sucking out all these from their parents, they ditch them by eloping with some guys, and irony is that they accuse their own parents for not understanding them..

One of the most cruel things ever done on this planet..

and these so called upholders of individual rights and those human rights activists and those liberals, will shout to sky, on the discrimination by parents, and on the rights of those lovers.. these people never care about the duties that those children has to do on their part..

The term "Nanri kadan" had become meaning less now a days..

 

[kunjuppu]

thanks anand.

hi happy, here is a classic example of my miscommunication. so, i am not all that good in communicating.

when a note is with feelings, i think, it flames the passions, and i think, passions when comes into the foray, enables one to lose control. sometimes even perspectives.

in this context, i think, you are doing a great job espousing the cause of the progressives of this forum - those who care about hinduism today and tomorrow, and not what it was yesterday.

i think the progressives are the future of hinduism, shorn off its abusive casteist infrastructure, whch has no place in today's world. it does not matter if ever anyone believes there was a 'glory' time for castes, but today there is no place in our religion, for stratified membership.

if my views on this comes out general and broad sweeping statement, i will take that as something that i am coming out very clear - ie we may differ on the details but the broadbrush understanding of values - we all agree.

God Bless.

Shrimati HH,

You don't need to regret about your inability and Shri. Kunjippu's ability in langauge skills because I find his comments to be broad, sweeping statements as much as I found yours to be a little insensitive to my tastes. But I will not venture into a discussion as it is a beaten to death topic in this forum where I don't think fresh insights are possible plus poles can never meet.

Nothing personal as I have very high regard to both of you.

Thanks

 

[senthil]

i think the progressives are the future of hinduism, shorn off its abusive casteist [COLOR=#DA7911 ! important][COLOR=#DA7911 ! important]infrastructure[/COLOR][/COLOR], whch has no place in today's world. it does not matter if ever anyone believes there was a 'glory' time for castes, but today there is no place in our religion, for stratified membership.

i am sorry sir.. this is called stereotype.. there is no hinduism without jaati (i am not saying about varnas.. jaati and varnas are different)

 

[jaisiyaraam]

Namaste Senthilji

how many non-brahmin girls willing to marry brahmin boys, and even if they do so, how many non-brahmin girls are ready to follow brahmin customs..

So i accuse those liberals, that in the name of individual rights, they are destroying a culture and a civilization..

If the kids ie next generation dont want to follow the culture then its their individual choice and it is improper to blame parents and/or liberals.

Moreover no one is destroying the culture at knife's point.

Moving away from "culture" is in our genes, we wear pant/shirt unlike our ancestors wearing just loin cloth and/or eating raw meat ie how far should we go back? one(parent's) generation? two(grandparent's) generation? 100yrs? 1000yrs? manu time? vedic? pre-vedic? stone ages? single celled ages?

Following or not following ones own culture and/or culture of spouse is a personal choice.

Parents and elders can only part their knowledge/significance/importance of culture to their kids/next generations but cannot make them do it.

Next, a [COLOR=#DA7911 ! important][COLOR=#DA7911 ! important]son[/COLOR][/COLOR] or daughter depends entirely on their parents for all their expenses.. it is the parents who spend money for school, for hospitals, for dresses.. it is the parents who sweat so much to ensure their son or [COLOR=#DA7911 ! important][COLOR=#DA7911 ! important]daughter[/COLOR][/COLOR] gets a professional degress (whether medical or engineering or arts degree).. and it is based on this degree that, these sons or daughters get a good paying job..

But after extracting and sucking out all these from their parents, they ditch them by eloping with some guys, and irony is that they accuse their own parents for not understanding them..

One of the most cruel things ever done on this planet..

and these so called upholders of individual rights and those human rights activists and those liberals, will shout to sky, on the discrimination by parents, and on the rights of those lovers.. these people never care about the duties that those children has to do on their part..

The term "Nanri kadan" had become meaning less now a days..

Well this is the most cruel emotional blackmailing ever done on this planet..

In the same token, kids are not properties/toys/slaves of parents.

We all very well know how/why kids are raised and its improper to attach self-pity(divinity ?) to parenthood because of some irresponsible kids.

There many a factors why kids dont look after their parents and it has nothing to do with kids abandoning the culture.

Jai SiyaRaam

 

[senthil]

@jaisiyaram

If the kids ie next generation dont want to follow the culture then its their individual choice and it is improper to blame parents and/or liberals.

Its pity, that the culture had been reduced to individual choice..

Individual choices do not come from skies sir.. Nor it comes spontaneously.. individual choices are manufactured and influenced.. when some guys attempt to seduce girls, its no more the individual choice of the girl.. the fact is she is being influenced and cheated.. we have to take pro-active action..

The tastes, likes of the present generation is influenced by various factors.. education, media, newspapers, cinema, music, and many other factors.. the individual choice that you are citing now, is not actually a choice..

and that is why i am advocating for collective action.. people has to come together as a community, educate their kids as a community, impart cultural values.. the children are how they are shaped up.. if we dont care them, any children will degrade.. unfortunately, the present education system has nothing that imparts value to the children.. what it teaches is how to exploit others for one's own selfish desires.. and the science and technology that we study are tools for this goal..

One of the biggest strengths of indian culture is that it makes everyone accountable to various things.. accountable to parents.. accountable to the society.. accountable to the nature.. accountable to our own actions.. It is this sense of dharma, that had helped us to have various thriving communities..

But today's education, displaced this very fact.. It teaches us, that the world is for you to enjoy.. dont care about any one.. anything.. just go by your wishes, and fulfill your desires.. and after pushing oneself confined to their own desires, then a vested group is now screaming "individual choice".. "individual choice".. (i am pointing to the media, human rights activist and womens rights activists)..

and we people, ignorant of the larger designs, are playing by game of the vested intersts... i should say, the educated people of the present generation lost the sense of dharma.. but we can see this sense of dharma ingrained in the previous generation of all communities.. just go to a dalit community hamlet, and speak to an elder ... he will use words like "Ithu dharmangala.. ithu nyayangala"..

I had an interesting debate during anti-smoking campaign.. some one said, that its his individual choice to smoke .. we said, you are not smoking out of choice.. but out of addiction.. you yourself are slave to that habit..

In the same token, kids are not properties/toys/slaves of parents.

The children are the properties of the parents.. do you think, a slave will be allowed to join professional degree? in so many families, the boy or girl enjoy all the cares of their parents, all the facilities, and the money they give, study in colleges and once they get their own job, ditch their parents and talk about individual choice..

Imagine.. if it happens b/w a friend.. the name for it will be "Nambikkai Dhroham".. "The greatest betrayal".. there forgiveness for a enemy.. but there is no forgiveness for a betrayal..

 

[prpsarathy]

Hi,

If you ask me personally, i am happy till such time they donot marry a christian or muslim. I know the cases of brahmin boys atleast more than three where they married christian and has become practicising christians.

Further we will have to objective see why this is happening. The world is moving away from caste based structure to class based structure. Further in brahmins, the class based structure is very feudal.

Let us objectively analysis reasons :

how many rich brahmins would be comfortable marrying well educated partners from poorer family.

Further the situation is aggravated by our marriage custom where the total cost of social function is that of the girl and not that of the boy. I know in our family, two of my mama's daughter are married to non brahmins.

All said and done, today girls are studying much better than the boys and they donot want to get married to the brahmin uneducated .

Brahmin boy marrying outside the community.

I think, it is all part of the movement in life. We have mature to take on the hindu community along rather than isolate oneself as brahmins. Further the thought process must move towards spirituality and giving back to society rather than getting into narrow belief.

 

[prpsarathy]

@jaisiyaram



Its pity, that the culture had been reduced to individual choice..

Individual choices do not come from skies sir.. Nor it comes spontaneously.. individual choices are manufactured and influenced.. when some guys attempt to seduce girls, its no more the individual choice of the girl.. the fact is she is being influenced and cheated.. we have to take pro-active action..

The tastes, likes of the present generation is influenced by various factors.. education, media, newspapers, cinema, music, and many other factors.. the individual choice that you are citing now, is not actually a choice..

and that is why i am advocating for collective action.. people has to come together as a community, educate their kids as a community, impart cultural values.. the children are how they are shaped up.. if we dont care them, any children will degrade.. unfortunately, the present education system has nothing that imparts value to the children.. what it teaches is how to exploit others for one's own selfish desires.. and the science and technology that we study are tools for this goal..

One of the biggest strengths of indian culture is that it makes everyone accountable to various things.. accountable to parents.. accountable to the society.. accountable to the nature.. accountable to our own actions.. It is this sense of dharma, that had helped us to have various thriving communities..

But today's education, displaced this very fact.. It teaches us, that the world is for you to enjoy.. dont care about any one.. anything.. just go by your wishes, and fulfill your desires.. and after pushing oneself confined to their own desires, then a vested group is now screaming "individual choice".. "individual choice".. (i am pointing to the media, human rights activist and womens rights activists)..

and we people, ignorant of the larger designs, are playing by game of the vested intersts... i should say, the educated people of the present generation lost the sense of dharma.. but we can see this sense of dharma ingrained in the previous generation of all communities.. just go to a dalit community hamlet, and speak to an elder ... he will use words like "Ithu dharmangala.. ithu nyayangala"..

I had an interesting debate during anti-smoking campaign.. some one said, that its his individual choice to smoke .. we said, you are not smoking out of choice.. but out of addiction.. you yourself are slave to that habit..



The children are the properties of the parents.. do you think, a slave will be allowed to join professional degree? in so many families, the boy or girl enjoy all the cares of their parents, all the facilities, and the money they give, study in colleges and once they get their own job, ditch their parents and talk about individual choice..

Imagine.. if it happens b/w a friend.. the name for it will be "Nambikkai Dhroham".. "The greatest betrayal".. there forgiveness for a enemy.. but there is no forgiveness for a betrayal..

Probably the author could consider the following thoughts :

1. Child is an apeing animal. How far the parents were religious for the child to imitate and learn.

2. As far as the marriage goes, no literature of our says that the marriage has to happen as per the wish of the parents - i am happy to be proved wrong

3. Expectation from any person leads to frustration. What is the teaching of our religion ? Do you duty and leave the action to the feet of god ? If the parents have that attitude why will they have any frustration or sense of betrayal.

Finally "thethum nandrum pirar tara vara". Whatever happens in our life is the result of our own action and the children are just a deliver. so there is no use in blaming the post man / deliverer for our own karmas.

 

[happyhindu]

The children are the properties of the parents.. do you think, a slave will be allowed to join professional degree? in so many families, the boy or girl enjoy all the cares of their parents, all the facilities, and the money they give, study in colleges and once they get their own job, ditch their parents and talk about individual choice..

Imagine.. if it happens b/w a friend.. the name for it will be "Nambikkai Dhroham".. "The greatest betrayal".. there forgiveness for a enemy.. but there is no forgiveness for a betrayal..

Why compare children with slaves....You give birth to children because you want them, because you want the joys of parenting, because you want the pleasure of their presence..And not because you want them for old age insurance...please remember there used to be vanaprastha followed at one time (were they wrong then?).

 

[prasanth1]

It is not the parents right to force their children to carry on their culture unwillingly through marriage. It is their responsibility to infuse their children with such respect for their culture that they will want to carry it on themselves. By the way, I am studying abroad right now and let me just say that almost none of the tam-brahm families I am meeting are doing this with their children.

 

[prpsarathy]

Hi,

In which world do you live. It is democracy and we are moving further. Hinduism splits its practices into eternal and customary. Unfortuante part of our religions is that we are too stuck up with the rituals / customs rather than the eternal search.

What is the objective of the religions would be a good question to answer oneself ?

For me religion is the one which has to take the human to the feet of god. All others are incidental and irrelevant. We have to judge person by their practice / karmas rather than by birth. If birth is the criteria ravana is a brahmin and prahalad is a demon. However our religions categorizes, ravana as the demon and prahalad as the best among the devotees.

Please do not go back to the rituals.

 

[anandsai71]

Dating service for eligible Brahmin Brides and Bridegrooms

I think there is scope for some social entrepreneur to setup a Chaperoned supervised dating service for eligible Brahmin Brides and Grooms marrying inter region and inter state with full consent of the respective Parents and Society.This would at least ensure that Parents dont raise cries like nambikkai droham or cries about backstabbing by their children.Who girls and boys marry is written by God.No human can stop the inevitable.I think we ahould accept that the real definition of the Brahmin caste is any one who is close to God (Yaha Bramham acharati sa eva Bramhananaha) and not any one as a Brahmin by birth It is earned by devotion to God and right conduct.:washing:

 

[Raghy]

how many non-brahmin girls willing to marry brahmin boys, and even if they do so, how many non-brahmin girls are ready to follow brahmin customs..

So i accuse those liberals, that in the name of individual rights, they are destroying a culture and a civilization..

Next, a son or daughter depends entirely on their parents for all their expenses.. it is the parents who spend money for school, for hospitals, for dresses.. it is the parents who sweat so much to ensure their son or daughter gets a professional degress (whether medical or engineering or arts degree).. and it is based on this degree that, these sons or daughters get a good paying job..

But after extracting and sucking out all these from their parents, they ditch them by eloping with some guys, and irony is that they accuse their own parents for not understanding them..

One of the most cruel things ever done on this planet..

and these so called upholders of individual rights and those human rights activists and those liberals, will shout to sky, on the discrimination by parents, and on the rights of those lovers.. these people never care about the duties that those children has to do on their part..

The term "Nanri kadan" had become meaning less now a days..

Sri.Senthil Sir,

Greetings. I do not know the exact stastics, but, there are many non-brahmin girls willing to marry a brahmin boy. How many girls take it further is a different matter though. Non-brahmin girls readily follow brahmin customs. That's what I keep observing. Now, what is 'brahmin custom'? Why do you think it is any different to non-brahmin custom? In my opinion, there is no difference at all.

Sri.Senthil Sir, you may want to accuse the liberals for anything and everything; but you may not accuse them for advocating individual rights. The societies were formed for the express purpose of safe guarding individual rights. Societies were the cradle for civilisations and the culture. Sir, the dooted line at the bottom is 'individual rights'. Cultures and civilisations are formed when individual rights are protected. Not the other way around.

You are lamenting about a daughter 'eloping'; most often than not, after a couple of months, everything becomes nice and dandy, everyone visits each other. The parents protest children's love mostly based on caste, social stigma, worrying about other's opinion', on status by the way of money and possibly on education or the lack of it. What most parents don't understand is, a new person added to the family can be motivated to achieve the parents expectations (expecting the caste, of course). But anyway, when parents treat children as friends and uphold their individual rights, the children have more inclination to discuss with the parents more. In such scenarios, 'eloping' gets minimised. Parents should give more importance to their children's pleasure than other's opinions.

Duties towards parents? Sir, these days children are more thankful to parents than in the past. Today's children serve the parents without expecting anything. Most parents may not leave anything to the children; but still, the children look after them. I suppose, the whole thing is perceptions. It looks like you have a different point of view in these matters.

Cheers!

 

[G. Soundara Rajan]

Namassadhasae.

I reproduce a poem in Tamizh on the subject of attraction of other castes boys/girls, which was published in Brahmin Today magazine in their September 2004 issue. I recently got this again and this forum and the thread most suit this piece. (No need to worry about copy right or something. I am associated with this Magazine pls!)

For non-Tamizh readers:

Nut of this piece: Brahmins are suggested to take only the community as their lover and requesting Brahmins to love.

ஆதலினால் பிராமணரே காதல் செய்வீர்!

ஆதலினால் பிராமணரே காதல் செய்வீர் - அவனியிலே
சாதலுக்கு நல்ல பல வழி இருந்தும் - வீணாக

பாதை நெடு பயணத்தில் பரிசல் மாற்றி
ஏது ஒரு இடம் இன்றி இறத்தல் போல

பேசு மொழி பிறந்த இடம் எல்லாம் துறந்து
வீசுகின்ற காதல் புயல் வீடிழந்து _ புதிய

பேர் கொண்டு சீர் கெட்டு துயர் பட்டு
ஊர் விட்டு ஊன் கேட்டு ஒதுங்குவதால்

கலப்பு மனம் காதல் வழி களைந்து விட்டு
இலக்கணமாய் இலக்கியமாய் இயங்கும் நம்

காதலனாய் / காதலியாய் சாதியையே கருத்தில் கொள்வோம்
ஆதலினால் பிராமணரே காதல் செய்வீர்!!

 

[versa005]

i just went to some 10 pages of this section today.. whether the one who initiated the thread replied for any questions asked between or he is looking after the crowd pushing itself in an annoying situation?

 

[manikandan.srinivasan]

Sorry to interfere in this thread... May i Know y is that always women are pointed here?? Are brahmin guys not marrying NB gals... if you SIL is marrying a NB guy, now please dont point to most of the community gals on the same...

i would like to comment on what u have said...



Do u think that we should always digest whatever is being done to us??? Now we are "Sold" to men as "slaves" by a marriage... please refrain from such comments ... if you want us to serve the way the older generation has served, i am sorry you have entered a wrong era... :mad2:

Hi,

Even the girls started looking for a bridegoom who is either having property/4wheeler or 2 wheele/ Bank balance rather than checking his character and as well as background.

We cant blame the parents or the lovers, its a kaala kodumai. Few decades back girls wont go out, and treated like a slave in their home and tat too most of the time they will be in kitchen,however when they started moving out and earning its become vice versa and that impacts the guy to prolong his alliance work.

In next generation, we will gonna see lots of changes and now itself brahmin girls started loving NB guys in their school days onwards and if this persist then we cannot expect to marry a brahmin girl with ease.
The NB guys have identified our brahmin girls pulse like, proposing her and going behind her/ following her for few months where our brahmin guys wont do that, hence after few months or days she is accepting that proposal and this is how intercast marriage happens.

Manikandan Srinivasan

 

[RKB]

Anniyan Ambis!

NBs toeing Brahmin girls are happening for long in the history. Certain communities preferred bride from every other community, including brides from Brahmins. Though Polygamy is not legal for an Hindu today, we see MK practicing it in a tricky manner to gain political advantage. There are Brahmin brides in his nephews family as well that has ensured consistent fourth estate support for him. Brahmin traditions are not conducive for a girl with romantic outlook and therefore NBs always get their prized catch. Our Ambis can perform heroics of NBs only as Anniyans.

now itself brahmin girls started loving NB guys in their school days onwards and if this persist then we cannot expect to marry a brahmin girl with ease.

Manikandan Srinivasan

 

[nachi naga]

bramean are shoplangis in past,but today brameans are dynamo od talent skills beauty and grace and very succesful in life.who really cares if a girl elopes with a non-bramean or a boy elopes with a non-bramean girl,majority still marry within brameans and lets be mean about it as meanies.

 

[senthil]

@raghy

You are lamenting about a daughter 'eloping'; most often than not, after a couple of months, everything becomes nice and dandy, everyone visits each other. The parents protest children's love mostly based on caste, social stigma, worrying about other's opinion', on status by the way of money and possibly on education or the lack of it. What most parents don't understand is, a new person added to the family can be motivated to achieve the parents expectations (expecting the caste, of course). But anyway, when parents treat children as [COLOR=#DA7911 ! important][COLOR=#DA7911 ! important]friends[/COLOR][/COLOR] and uphold their individual rights, the children have more inclination to discuss with the parents more. In such scenarios, 'eloping' gets minimised. Parents should give more importance to their children's pleasure than other's opinions.

Sir.. when the parents themselves are disconnected from the family, they have no option to accept the elopings.. They are reacting to post-marriage situations, and i only empathise with their apathetic situation..

As i said earlier, pre-globalisation india largely lived as a community.. the brahmin life are intervened with their own community members.. there was NOT individualistic life style.. hence marriage within their community was preferred.. why? bcoz, in marriages two extended families join together, along with two individuals..

again and again, you are always putting all eggs on the parent's basket.. like parents should give importance to children's wishes.. this is totally unfair..

a parent can just marry off their daughter or son just after +2.. but they take extra mile, and send them to colleges, support them till they finish their college..

If you say, the children have no responsibility towards parents, and that children need not care about parents wishes, and your projection of parent's wishes as outdated.. all are NOT acceptable..

Today, there is a trend being propogated, that one need not care about anyone, and every one should look just after their own interest.. such self-centered values are largely propogated through cinemas and magazine articles..

For a change, try propogating our indic ideals.. stressing the duty of the children towards the parents.. it will have its own effect..

Thiruvalluvar has written the kural.. தந்தை மகற்காற்றும் உதவி......

But he has also written another.. மகன் தந்தைக்காற்றும் உதவி...

 

[senthil]

Even the girls started looking for a bridegoom who is either having property/4wheeler or 2 wheele/ Bank balance rather than checking his character and as well as background.

We cant blame the parents or the lovers, its a kaala kodumai. Few decades back girls wont go out, and treated like a slave in their home and tat too most of the time they will be in kitchen,however when they started moving out and earning its become vice versa and that impacts the guy to prolong his alliance work.

it is not kaala kodumai.. its because almost all jaathis are held sway by those persons who wanted to destroy it.. it is their extreme hostility, that a larger section of people are in a dilemma whether to follow their jaathi or not..

The solution is, try mingling with your community members.. organise community events.. shape your life to revolve around your community culture.. conduct special programs to sensitise youths on your community customs and some life codes in general..

Reactivate the kula deivam worship.. visit your kuladeivam with all your relatives atleast once in a year..

And most importantly, seek alliance for the boys and girls right at their young age.. this alliance need not immediately end in marriage.. but it can be pre-arrangment to show our sons and daughter their future life partner, so that they can plan for their future, choose their career appropriately and settle in their life ..

its nature, that a boy or girl after attaining age seeks a partner.. if we acknowledge this reality there would be no problems..

Many are hostile to this idea, and equate it to child marriage.. in my opinion, child marriage itself is NOT an evil as it is projected.. there were so many couples married at their childhood, but living successfully..
My friend said, child marriage develops a Joint intellect b/w the couples, that they could not live separately even for few days.. because, a child's psyche gets proper shape at their teen.. and marriage before that, binds both their attitude and psyche in to a union..


Everything is possible, only when people come together as a community, plan for their community, and support themselves as community.. As long as individualism persists, the community will further collapse.. its true NOT for brahmins alone... for every one else..

 

[prpsarathy]

Being good

Hi,

It is parents anxiety that the child must have not problme which pushes the character to the background and look upon wealth as a major criteria.

With regard to the marriage, i feel the marriage age for a girl is between 21 to 25 and for a boy is 25 to 30. Age difference is just equal to the nature way of the girl / boy reaching the puberty.

Offcourse, parents have to lead their life, in such a manner the child follows the custom. Invariably the problem lies with the parent in their young age and they change when they are old and they expect the child to change when the child is young.

Finally, leave things to the hands of god who knows what needs to be ddone.

 

[hoover]

we are so politically correct in all matters of life that we deserve extinction. no one explicitly dare to say that this is a well planned covert and articulate ethnic clensing how it is undergoings let me explanin due to my system inability the first part of the table showing 50% reserve quota is not visible all should draw this table on paper and think what is happening right frion the exam of UPSC to an clerks exam in any govt department.

It is the policy "lets deprive brahmin men of opportunities and lets get in the brilliant brahmin girls to turn them as brides."

Brahmin girls have much more opportunity of education and jobs due to 30% reservations for them. A simple statistics proves this
Total seats – 100 (suppose this is a class room of MBBS FY)
B (17)
C (13)
D (10)
E(5)
F(5)

A – Seats reserved for sc, st, obc (50%)
B – Seats reserved for open category women (30%)
C - open category seats acquired by sc, st, obc candidates (25% to 35%)
D - Open category seats acquired by open category meritorious women (more than the 33% quota)
E- Seats acquired by men of open category non Brahmin
F-seats acquired by Brahmin men
This shows that how boys (open category) get only 10%of seats on the other hand girls get 27 %seats. If Brahmin only considered, taking in consideration the fact that number of girls taking education in Brahmin community is far more than other communities this statistics shows that in 100 seats for MBBS (or any other) course there will be only 4 to 5 boys of Brahmin community and on the other hand there will be at least 15 Brahmin girls in the same course. This is the main reason behind intercaste marriages of Brahmin girls. Intercaste marriages of Brahmin girls are not just due to lack of family watch on behavior of girls it is equally due to govt. policy of injustice. Secondly absence of deterrence is another cause i.e

 

[Iyer]

ln my observation, the following are the reasons why Brahmin Girls marry Non Brahmin Boys, arranged in sequence of greatest number of reason to the least:

1) Money, Wealth, Comfortable life

2) Physical Attraction, Lust, Outward appearance.

3) Knowledge, Wisdom, Character, Personality.

I opine, in the present times, the situation shall be perceived as a girl marrying a boy whom she loved than perceiving as a Brahmin girl marrying a non-brahmin boy. Love transcends all barriers of caste, religiion, ethnicity, color etc. Moreover times are changing. The world is becoming small while ironically the population of the nations is increasing. Technology has revolutionised society and there is paradigm shift in the thinking patterns of people. With every generation there is change. What is unacceptable in our time is acceptable now and vice versa. For example it was unacceptable and uncommon to find a man and woman sitting beside each other in a bus, unless they are husband and wife or brother-sister or any kith-kin. However nowadays it is common to find men and women sitting next to each other regardless of being strangers. Boys and Girls at School level and college level discuss on such topics and subjects which were considered taboo to discuss in public 30 years ago. It is common to find girls dressing scantily without causing a sensation among men. Men are oblivious and insensitive to such things as they have become common. While certain values have eroded, certain new values have crept in. Vulgarity in conversation was condemned in our times, but valued among the present generation. This trend is further fanned by the films and electronic media. Anything and everything can be done through internet, especially things which were unfathomable prior to internet revolution.

In such a scenario, Brahminism is drowned and is slowly becoming extinct.