Brahmin Girls Marrying (Attracted towards) NB Boys

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internet has become inner-net for various emotions .this is the best technological evolution and every child in every village shud have access.every sandu pondu internet kondu wah,shud be the new slogan for kazhagams tambrahms shud have internet to get connected from the age of 6 itself.

 

[senthil]

ln my observation, the following are the reasons why Brahmin Girls marry Non Brahmin Boys, arranged in sequence of greatest number of reason to the least:

1) Money, Wealth, Comfortable life

2) Physical Attraction, Lust, Outward appearance.

3) Knowledge, Wisdom, Character, Personality.

I opine, in the present times, the situation shall be perceived as a girl marrying a boy whom she loved than perceiving as a Brahmin girl marrying a non-brahmin boy. Love transcends all barriers of caste, religiion, ethnicity, color etc. Moreover times are changing. The world is becoming small while ironically the population of the nations is increasing. Technology has revolutionised society and there is paradigm shift in the thinking patterns of people. With every generation there is change. What is unacceptable in our time is acceptable now and vice versa. For example it was unacceptable and uncommon to find a man and woman sitting beside each other in a bus, unless they are husband and wife or brother-sister or any kith-kin. However nowadays it is common to find men and women sitting next to each other regardless of being strangers. Boys and Girls at School level and college level discuss on such topics and subjects which were considered taboo to discuss in public 30 years ago. It is common to find girls dressing scantily without causing a sensation among men. Men are oblivious and insensitive to such things as they have become common. While certain values have eroded, certain new values have crept in. Vulgarity in conversation was condemned in our times, but valued among the present generation. This trend is further fanned by the films and electronic media. Anything and everything can be done through internet, especially things which were unfathomable prior to internet revolution.

In such a scenario, Brahminism is drowned and is slowly becoming extinct.

Perfect description of collapse of indian society, and taking over of western values.. the dreams of macaulay is coming true now.. what britishers could not do in their rule has been done by the brown britishers..

 

[R. Ramanujan]

To Everyone,

Oru day a kakka and kokku fly in the vaanam.
At that neram the kokku fell down in a chaakadai,
after that the kakka give its kai'touch the kokku's kai.
Suddenly the kokku sang the paatu
''Karuppana Kaiyala enna pudichan.''
Then kadhal starts between them.
But kaaka's kudumbam denies kokku b'coz of its vellai colour.
So,kokku always stand with one kaal in hot veyil to bcome karuppu.
It wins or not?
Watch in tgv cinemas..
Kaaka manasula kokku... 8=)

 

[prpsarathy]

Hi,

I agree with the author on the reservation. However, i also want to mention the following :

There are education available to day which does not have any reservation but which requires perseverence. I am a ca, i consciously took ca as i felt that i might not be in a position to get the very high marks to join the engineering or medical. I can tell you by gods grace and hard work, i am more successful than any engineer or the doctor who would have qualified at that point of time. success at least in my understanding is right person, right time and right place. Only the first one is in your hand and the remaining two are in the hands of the almighty. That is the reason, krishna says that just do ur duty and leave things to him.


Further today the backward community has enough second generation kids who will give run for the money to participate in the open competition of girls for the 27 seats.

Your argument is illogical to say that the boys does not get the seat however the girls get the seat. The reality of life is that the brahmin girls are more studious and disciplined that the boys. Pls own up the responsibility rather than blaming others.

Second is that today you can join any engineering or medical, if you have enough financial strength. Where is the pooling of the economic strength of the brahmins to help the poor brahmins. The weakness is that today the brahmins are worst than the bania in their insecurity and greed for money. It is my personal experience that rich or upper middle brahmins donot turn back the moment they are rich is the sad reality. There is no concept of giving back to the society. Today if you have 85% mark you can join any engineering college in chennai as the supply is more than the demand.

Let some body read the vedas and dharamas to say how much percentage of the income a hindu is expected to give back to the society and do a reality check to see where they stand.

There was a fantastic incidence through this site four years back, where the members assisted a girl for completion of the education and giving back was that the girl disappeared without even informing any of the donors show the attitude of "GRATEFULNESS" in the society and exposes the greed

Objective is not to bull dose but to present the contrarian view. In my capacity, i assist people for their education and medicine as i feel that the society can change when the individual start changing rather than blaming others. Let every individual brahmin take upon himself that he / she will give away certain percentage of the income for the benefit of the society.

 

[prpsarathy]

Wrong practices of brahmins with regard to marriage. Can anybody in the forum participating can say that in their family that they give 50% of the marriage expense to the girls side. So girls prefer love marriage where they have their equal right and it is sustained by their education and economic independence. Where as what is happening in the conventiional marriage where the in-laws suck the blood out of the girls side.

 

[prpsarathy]

Why lament about britisher and local britishers. First Question to this forum is who is a brahmin ? Most of the brahmins today are brahmins by birth and shudra by vocation. How many brahmins in this forum would be happy to send his son to a veda pada shala and live by unjivridi [ i am honest i will not ] or get his daugther married to a unjivridi brahmin.

Even the brahmins who are professional pandits have the erudation and discipline which is expected of the brahmin. Invariably if you go near any of the mutt, it stings of corruption and nepotism and hypocracy.

There needs to be a re-invention of brahmins. In my perception the iskcon members could be a brahmin as he as left everything to the hands of god and live by alms and only praying to god.

 

[Nara]

.....How many brahmins in this forum would be happy to send his son to a veda pada shala

Dear prpsarathy, I want to express my agreement and appreciation for your views. To me, you are part of the bright future of India/Tamil Nadu, much like the case of Happy that K so often and so rightly cites. The younger generation gives me lot of joy and happiness, be it Ravi, Amala, Happy, Renu, Durgadasan, R.Ramanujan, you, and a host of other young people who make me feel the future is bright for the Tamil nation.

Cheers!

 

[sangom]

Let some body read the vedas and dharamas to say how much percentage of the income a hindu is expected to give back to the society and do a reality check to see where they stand.

Shri Sarathy,

According to the Dharmasastras, the brahmana was to get or receive daanam (gift) but brahmana giving daanam is not emphasized at all. In the various puranas also, the greatness/punya of various daanas given to brahmana are extolled but there is hardly any expectation of brahmana giving daanam. Hence with the experience of centuries, if not millennia, of living on others' gifts and munificence, brahmins as a class have no great idea of "giving back to the society" and, secondly, the brahmin community normally does not reciprocate the help given by the munificence of aome individual/trust/association.

There was a fantastic incidence through this site four years back, where the members assisted a girl for completion of the education and giving back was that the girl disappeared without even informing any of the donors show the attitude of "GRATEFULNESS" in the society and exposes the greed

This is exactly what I said in item 1 above. IMO this sort of behaviour is more due to lack of gratefulness and secondly, a great anxiety to wipe out from memory, any thought of having been a recipient of someone else's help, the "moment one crosses the bridge" as the Malayalam proverb goes!

Objective is not to bull dose but to present the contrarian view. In my capacity, i assist people for their education and medicine as i feel that the society can change when the individual start changing rather than blaming others. Let every individual brahmin take upon himself that he / she will give away certain percentage of the income for the benefit of the society.

I find non-brahmins more grateful. Some decades ago one NB young man came to my house and after showing all necessary papers established that he was studying for M.A. Economics in a private college, that his father - a coolie - had a fall and had become unfit to earn and so this young man, his son, needed help for payment of fees and books. I said I will send it c/o the Principal as MO and if the Principal agreed, it would be fine. The principal agreed and I sent the amounts regularly. After the vacation - when I had all but forgotten about it - the young man came to me with his provisional MA certificate and thanked me. I was really in tears to see his gesture. This sort of behaviour is rare among brahmin beneficiaries, that has been my experience.

 

[sangom]

There needs to be a re-invention of brahmins. In my perception the iskcon members could be a brahmin as he as left everything to the hands of god and live by alms and only praying to god.

I would say "re-invention" of Hindus themselves, free of varna/caste classification, not only of brahmins.

 

[sangom]

Wrong practices of brahmins with regard to marriage. Can anybody in the forum participating can say that in their family that they give 50% of the marriage expense to the girls side. So girls prefer love marriage where they have their equal right and it is sustained by their education and economic independence. Where as what is happening in the conventiional marriage where the in-laws suck the blood out of the girls side.

Shri Sarathy,

There have been some TB marriages (arranged) where a good share of the marriage expenses (may or may not be 50 percent, I don't know) have been borne by the boy's side. Of course, such cases are rare. On the other hand "love marriages" have broken down very fast as well. And, nowadays, with the acute shortage for girls in the TB community, the expectations from the girl's side are increasing; the number of sovereigns of ornaments given in two or three stages of the marriage - the first "nischyataartha", the second "nischayataamboolam" on the day previous to marriage, and during the marriage itself is coming to a very high amount. There is also an unwritten practice coming where, if the boy's side expect a large number of invitees, they have to share the expenses for the party/ feast. Hence, society is changing but TB girls preferring NB boys is there as a distinct trend which can perhaps be explained by sociologists and psychologists only.

 

[Raghy]

Wrong practices of brahmins with regard to marriage. Can anybody in the forum participating can say that in their family that they give 50% of the marriage expense to the girls side. So girls prefer love marriage where they have their equal right and it is sustained by their education and economic independence. Where as what is happening in the conventiional marriage where the in-laws suck the blood out of the girls side.

Sri.Sarathy,

With due respect to your message, what would you say, if indeed someone taking part in this forum paid money to the girl side meet the marriage expenses? You asked a question and left it in limbo. I am curious to know, please. Thank you.

Cheers!

 

[Raghy]

Sri.Sarathy asked -

How many brahmins in this forum would be happy to send his son to a veda pada shala and live by unjivridi [ i am honest i will not ] or get his daugther [COLOR=#DA7911 ! important][COLOR=#DA7911 ! important]married[/COLOR][/COLOR] to a unjivridi brahmin.

Sri.Sarathy, Greetings. Why do you expect caste Brahmin (Brahmin by the caste only) to live by unjavridi? Just because a caste brahmin follows Sandhya Vandhanam, Nithya Karmanushtaanams and speak Bramin Tamizh does not mean such brahmin should live by unjavridhi. Not everyone took up unjavridhi in the past either. To live by unjavridhi is not a condition to be a brahmin (be by caste or by varna).

Invariably if you go near any of the mutt, it stings of corruption and nepotism and hypocracy.

Mutts operate on their own autonomy. Caste brahmins have no say or control over the matters of the mutts. If I am not wrong, most mutts are funded more by non-brahmin patrons than by caste brahmin patrons. Personally I have never been near any mutt; matter of fact I can recall only few persons who went near a mutt (from my friends and relatives).

There needs to be a re-invention of brahmins.

I can't see the purpose. I incline to agree with Sri.Sangom here. Caste/Varna free society would be the way to go.

Cheers!

 

[R. Ramanujan]

Thank you whosoever raised the evil in brahmins marriage system. My father spent nearly 8 lakhs of his money which he got after he retired from the bank in marrying off my akka and now he is despirately trying to get a loan to pay a lum sum for PF. There should be equal share or if not equal some 60:40 or 70:30 share of girl and boys family. Nowa days boys family show their roub/tadi/attitude/ego/pride and expect the girls family to sponser the entire cost. What if the girls family is poor. what if she is aezhai? है किसी के पास इस सवाल का जवाब?(does anyone have any answer to this ques). There are numerous brah girls who are orphan who are poor but they are cultured, does anyone think abt them. No. And u c when these girls go for inter marriages or convert there is a huge cry all over.
namma hyphocracy ku oru alavu e kidayathu.

hails to this great indian Hyphocratic society

 

[Raghy]

Sri.Ramanujan said -

Thank you whosoever raised the evil in brahmins marriage system.....

Even 4 generations before, (my great grand mother's period), girls were given 'Manja kaani' (மஞ்ச காணி), a piece of land registered on her name as a 'gift' at the time/just before marriage. Wedding expenses were kind of shared by everyone, in the sense, all the relatives had some contribution towards the function. Girl's parents were expected to 'set up' the new house as per their capacity. The seedlings from the 'Paaligai' was expected to be used as the starting to cultivate from the 'Manja kaanNi'. The grooms who could not even afford 'manja kaani' were given 'kanniga dhaanam'. I request Sri.Sangom to enlighten more on these matters, please. Thank you.

Cheers!

 

[R. Ramanujan]

Sir the world has changed. I have shared my personal exp with everyone. its ur wish whether to accept it or not. now a days the boys family sucks the blood out of the girls family. Thats why I call everyone to spend less in marriage. let it be simple. discourage dowry etc.
its the same logic...........


ஒரு உயிர் துடிக்கும் பொழுது, யாரும் கவனிக்காமல் இருப்பார்கள். ஆனால் நின்ற பின் எல்லாரும் துடிப்பார்கள்.
That's Vazhkai ayya.

 

[Raghy]

Sir the world has changed. I have shared my personal exp with everyone. its ur wish whether to accept it or not. now a days the boys family sucks the blood out of the girls family. Thats why I call everyone to spend less in marriage. let it be simple. discourage dowry etc.
its the same logic...........


ஒரு உயிர் துடிக்கும் பொழுது, யாரும் கவனிக்காமல் இருப்பார்கள். ஆனால் நின்ற பின் எல்லாரும் துடிப்பார்கள்.
That's Vazhkai ayya.

Sri.Ramanujan,

It seems, i was not very clear in my message. I meant, even 4 generations before, the grooms were not expecting somuch from the brides parents; in fact, the groom's parents gave 'sreedhanam' to the girl. I meant to say, all those things have changed in such a short time. Sorry, I did not mean to belittle your message at all; in fact I thought, I was complimenting your message.

Cheers!

 

[prpsarathy]

Hi,

We have to impress upon people to have simple living. Simple living only will enable the individual to have surplus which he / she can share with their brethens. Further i also want people to think beyond brahmins to hindus as we have major threat coming from christians. One day india might become a christian country like what has happened in the north eastern state.

For that all educated brahmins must ensure that they look beyond the narrow scope of brahmin and look at larger picture of hindu.

 

[prpsarathy]

Hi,

Even i did not, as my inlaws did not want to take money for the marriage expenses. However i do contribute toward charity to the best of my ability every years. I think that is more than 50% of the marriage expense probably what my inlaws would have spent for me.

 

[prpsarathy]

Hi,

Please there are cases of marriage failure both in case of love and arranged marriage. In my perception, love marriage gives a lot of equality to the girl, offcourse, if the boy is good. If not whether it is an arranged marriage or love marriage, it will be a disaster. Only the education and economic independence of the girl will get her through.

I have observed that two of my relative daughters have got married outside the brahmin community. One was during the education outside the city and another was working togather in the office. But in my perception, the main reason would be the delay in the marriage age of the girl and the boy.

In the previous generation, with the family being large, the average marriagable age were quiet high. Once the girls are independent economically they were looking at class rather than the caste as the critieria.

However what i have observed in the second generation is that the girls are married between 21 to 23 which is the ideal age and the boy is married between 24 to 30.

 

[prpsarathy]

Hi,

When i mean the brahmin, it need not be on the basis of birth but on the basis of the merit of their action.

 

[prpsarathy]

Shri Sarathy,

According to the Dharmasastras, the brahmana was to get or receive daanam (gift) but brahmana giving daanam is not emphasized at all. In the various puranas also, the greatness/punya of various daanas given to brahmana are extolled but there is hardly any expectation of brahmana giving daanam. Hence with the experience of centuries, if not millennia, of living on others' gifts and munificence, brahmins as a class have no great idea of "giving back to the society" and, secondly, the brahmin community normally does not reciprocate the help given by the munificence of aome individual/trust/association.

This is exactly what I said in item 1 above. IMO this sort of behaviour is more due to lack of gratefulness and secondly, a great anxiety to wipe out from memory, any thought of having been a recipient of someone else's help, the "moment one crosses the bridge" as the Malayalam proverb goes!

I find non-brahmins more grateful. Some decades ago one NB young man came to my house and after showing all necessary papers established that he was studying for M.A. Economics in a private college, that his father - a coolie - had a fall and had become unfit to earn and so this young man, his son, needed help for payment of fees and books. I said I will send it c/o the Principal as MO and if the Principal agreed, it would be fine. The principal agreed and I sent the amounts regularly. After the vacation - when I had all but forgotten about it - the young man came to me with his provisional MA certificate and thanked me. I was really in tears to see his gesture. This sort of behaviour is rare among brahmin beneficiaries, that has been my experience.

I agree with you. I have seen in my own life two cases of brahmin guys who have grown out of poverty. However they did not have any question of gratitude. Rather they started arguing that they got the assistance on the basis of merit.

However the divine law showed them the place but it was too late for them. UNGRATEFUL attitude is one of the great sin which are never forgiven by the divinity leave alone humans.

 

[prpsarathy]

we are so politically correct in all matters of life that we deserve extinction. no one explicitly dare to say that this is a well planned covert and articulate ethnic clensing how it is undergoings let me explanin due to my system inability the first part of the table showing 50% reserve quota is not visible all should draw this table on paper and think what is happening right frion the exam of UPSC to an clerks exam in any govt department. Brahmin girls have much more opportunity of education and jobs due to 30% reservations for them. A simple statistics proves this
Total seats – 100 (suppose this is a class room of MBBS FY)
B (17)
C (13)
D (10)
E(5)
F(5)

A – Seats reserved for sc, st, obc (50%)
B – Seats reserved for open category women (30%)
C - open category seats acquired by sc, st, obc candidates (25% to 35%)
D - Open category seats acquired by open category meritorious women (more than the 33% quota)
E- Seats acquired by men of open category non Brahmin
F-seats acquired by Brahmin men
This shows that how boys (open category) get only 10%of seats on the other hand girls get 27 %seats. If Brahmin only considered, taking in consideration the fact that number of girls taking education in Brahmin community is far more than other communities this statistics shows that in 100 seats for MBBS (or any other) course there will be only 4 to 5 boys of Brahmin community and on the other hand there will be at least 15 Brahmin girls in the same course. This is the main reason behind intercaste marriages of Brahmin girls. Intercaste marriages of Brahmin girls are not just due to lack of family watch on behavior of girls it is equally due to govt. policy of injustice. Secondly absence of deterrence is another cause i.e

Hi,

i want you to come back with you feedback on the views which i have presented with regard to reservation. Further these threats must get the society togather like jews and fight back the whole world.

 

[sangom]

Hi,

i want you to come back with you feedback on the views which i have presented with regard to reservation. Further these threats must get the society togather like jews and fight back the whole world.

I don't get the numbers correctly. B should be 15, C should be 13 (12) to 18 (17), D, E & F seem to be arbitrary - supplied by Shri Hoover on tentative assumptions. In most common admission tests like for IITs the boys used to do better; I don't know if this has changed now. In any case unless some recent trends for D, E, F are known we cannot be sure.

Secondly, if there are not sufficient takers for B category, will not the seats be open to others?
Pl. clarify.

 

[prpsarathy]

Hi,

Thanks to our corrupt tamil politicians they have created more capacity than demaand. Today engineering seats are very easily available for 86% which was unheard earlier. However people have to work hard for IIT. I feel there are opportunity for fc in singapore as they give all expense for good students. My sister son is studying there inspite of getting IIT and local engineering in india.

 

[Krishvasu]

Dear Sir, I second your opinion .

I am a thenkalai Iyengar from srirangam looking for a bride for my younger brother ,working in Abu Dhabi as a Research scientist.He is a non smoker and Teetotaller .We hail from a traditional ,respectable family.

We have registered in Bharat matrimony.For the past 6 months we have beeb searching for a suitable girl ,we have not been able to find any.Most of the brides or their parents do not even have the basic etiquette to either mail us or phone us and tell "sorry our interests don't match,pl.excuse us .Then what is the use of their American / English education ? if they cant use it for a meaningful communication .The main reason for this is the brides are affected by what is called the IEIC syndrome.That is I Earn I Choose .Most of the parents who may have lived a normal middle class life in their early years do not want to lose the affluent lifestyle they now afford due to the phenomenal earnings of their daughter(s) and so they also do not want their girls to get married .

This is a bitter pill to swallow no doubt.But it is the truth.

The US based brides are more American than Born Americans and think us Indians as "Bloody Indians".They put up their CVs on many matrimony sites just for fun due to peer pressure or parents compulsion.They do not even have the courtesy (Especially those based in the US,who value their time and efforts when dealing with people of any nationality in the US but do not reciprocate the same ideals when dealing with fellow countrymen i.e.those who live outside India) to decline an offer and keep the grooms in animated suspension.

Due to the IEIC syndrome the would be brides keep on postponing their marriage till 30 .By the time the Girl becomes the Boys who are going to marry these girls would be 35.Even after marrying these couples do not want to beget children at least for 2 to 3 years in order to enjoy life .Though it is difficult to believe but most likely to happen ,25 years from now this would lead to a situation wherein brahmin women and men (They would no longer be girls and boys due to the delayed marriageable age)
will only be performing shashtyabdhapoorthi as their first marriage instead of first getting married,then celebrating silver jubilee and then performing shashtyabdhapoorthi in that order as is the practice in the (G)olden days.

Another Irony is that many girls do not even post their fotos on the matrimony sites which can only be accessed by members , whose activities can be tracked easily by the administrator of the matrimonial sites for fear of being morphed for tarnishing their image.This is unjustified fear as only registered members can access these matrimony sites and can easily get caught if they do anything wrong.These very same girls post their fotos in all sorts of bare and dare costumes on social networking sites such as facebook and orkut which anyone can ogle at by googling .Also in the guise of becoming a friend they can do all sorts of nonsense with their contact details publicised on facebook/orkut etc.,

I request all parents and prospective bnrides to kindly ponder over these points


Thanks

Vasudevan