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Define a Brahmin please!!

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Originally Posted by happyhindu
If you did not want to deal with me, you shd have said that yesterday itself. There was no necessity for you start off with a quote from the bible as "pathway of vedic truth". So much for your religiousity and honesty..

Anyways, this is about a pact...lets make a pact. I keep away from your posts and you keep away from mine. I mean, i was reading your yuga-cycle explanation (nonsensical to me) in the aryan invasion thread. I do not want such typically renu kind of posts when i am in conversation with yamaka. From my end, from now on, i shall not read your posts (meaning, when you are in conversation with others, you will not see me commenting on your posts as i did in this thread). So we both keep away from each other.

Bye and best wishes.
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Posted by Renu:

It used to be an unwritten rule that we never used to engage in debates with each other. In fact I never did yesterday, I was merely responding to Ravi's questions he had directed to me.
And also I have never mentioned anywhere in forum that I am religous and honest. You assumed it.I could be a hypocrite for all you know.

Anyway no problems, since we have made it official now.We will stick to our deal.Aye Aye Sir!!!

I hold no grudges againts you(this I am being honest if you believe me)
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I have to praise Happy Hindu and Renu for settling their differences in a nice way.
Hopefully we all can learn from this.

It's truly a Peaceful Clarification & Peaceful Deal.
 
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When I see the MOU between Happy Hindu and Renu, it reminds me of 2 dons demarcating their area and with the "you don't enter my area and i wont enter yours".
 
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Nara said:
I do not know how Thiruvalluvar's commentaries can apply to present-day brahmins. -Happyhindu

(a) அந்தணர் means Brahmin and (b) Mr. MK is an Iyer. So, that makes Mr. MK an அந்தணர் :).

BTW, more than a year ago there was a long discussion about what Thiruvalluvar meant by the term அந்தணர். There is enough internal evidence even within Thirukkural itself to show that he did not refer to Brahmins.

Cheers!
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It is only convenient to accept these things. But the definition can not be different from what Thiruvalluvar says. But the words of Thiruvalluvar are ideals and it is only a Goal that one can seek. What can be the problem for a problem for a Brahmin today to put himself / herself for these holy destinations? In fact it is being vehemently attempted against all odds subconsciously by majority of Brahmins
 
Brahin said:
When I see the MOU between Happy Hindu and Renu, it reminds me of 2 dons demarcating their area and with the "you don't enter my area and i wont enter yours".
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forum version of 'once upon a time in mumbai'?

... once upon a time in a tambram forum ? :)

hilarious!!
 
Brahin said:
When I see the MOU between Happy Hindu and Renu, it reminds me of 2 dons demarcating their area and with the "you don't enter my area and i wont enter yours".
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Hi Brahin!

LADY Dons with their own armies, retinues, pilots and bodyguards???

Too bad I can visualize only one side but not the other.

Now they both can operate without mutual interference

in the lack-luster-platform without fire works!!. :flame:
 
meghavarshini said:
I'm sorry, this was a complete waste of time. Apart from having my text deconstructed by dozens of people, nothing productive happened. Sorry for posting such a 'terrible' and 'vague' post(feel free to add more epithets).
Advice to read older posts was unnecessary, I did that before writing this.
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dear Meghavarshini!

Hope you got CONFUSED enough for starting a thread with the word Brahmin

in it!

That word attracts the forum members like a jack fruit attracts the flies!

Now even if you want to QUIT the thread quietly and stop it ,

it is not going to happen!

You have got caught in a quicksand... a slush... a mire.

Take care!

with best wishes,
Mrs.V.R.
 
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MCPs, if you can't help, please keep out ...
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sir, i dont know what you mean by MCP, but an ideal helping here is:

instead of being some one who just read it without contributing or even logging in and being a silent spectator (as most of the page view says, "10 logged but 200 viewing the site online), its perfect with some one , who could come up bold and jot with audacity,and pin point, that, there is a 'cat fight' going on..

That's the greatest help they are doing, with their audacity, esp, being 'frank &honest' with their opinions here. pls remember, you are not the ADMIN/MOD here, empowered to ask someone to 'KEEP OUT'. thank you sir.

lets stick to the topic, not the persons.. if some you feel, some post is off the mark, pls stay away, but not ask them to exit. lets leave that job to the mod's

sometimes, if feel pity, and if i were to join the other side with a soothing note, i quote this as an encouraging factor. it reminds me of my school days non-detailed story book's 'Ugly Duckling'... thanks to the danish poet 'hans christian anderson'
 
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Please, I beg all of you, just let it go, the two have already come to an understanding.
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just a rejoinder..this how the brits cleverly gained supremacy over the gullible ,often quarelling indian kings. and off late,even U.N is doing the same in east timor,egypt,syria etc.

anecdote: Viceroy to tipu sultan: almighty king, forgive my sergeant, for his wrong doings, in initiating his first round of fire on srirangapatnam. you know,after all , he is a local indian sepoy, just not an elite one, like us..

i want peace now (not for tomorrow), but in my own way!!
 
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Are we now concluding, defining a Brahmin? Is that a simple realization that in terms of human psychology we all are same, irrespective of which cast we belongs to?

asato ma sadgamaya
tamaso ma jyotirgamaya
mrtyorma amrtam gamaya

Lead me from the asat to the sat.
Lead me from darkness to light.
Lead me from death to immortality.

 
Just a thought...

B R A H M I N

B - Better late than never
R - Ready ever to learn
A - Allways wanting to lead
H - Hard to give up ego
M - Must to be respected
I - Intended to compete
N - Never ever to heed.


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Removed the ones that i could see for now. If i have missed any, feel free to send me a pm with the link. Once i am back to proper schedule, i will remove them.

Until then let peace prevail :)
 
Dear Praveen,

Thank you very much.I am very sorry for getting you involved in this.

I will go thru again and let you know if you missed anything.right now I am busy with patients.

Lots of Love
renu
 
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At this moment, i do not have time to go through and find out who said what etc... I deleted what i could with the time constraints that i have.

If there are any posts that you would like me to remove, please send me a private message and once i am back to proper routine i will go through and delete them if required.

FYI, all this week i am held up.

Please leave this issue as is and continue with other topics of discussion.
 
Hello Megh,
After going thru all the postings on this topic,
Are you clear now who/what is a Brahmin.
Somebody can enlighten/sum up the conclusion.
Alwan
 
A Brahmin by definition is Brahma Gnani, one who always contemplates on God supreme,takes unending,sincere efforts to have atma anubhavam, practices satvic traits,daily anushtaanams as per the vedic prescriptions,leads a simple living, never aspires for material wealth more than what is required for his day to day existence, so on and so forth.To remain a true, ideal brahmin, may be our fore fathers might have been successful to some extent,now it is very difficult though not impossible.
 
sadasivam.sridharan said:
A Brahmin by definition is Brahma Gnani, one who always contemplates on God supreme,takes unending,sincere efforts to have atma anubhavam, practices satvic traits,daily anushtaanams as per the vedic prescriptions,leads a simple living, never aspires for material wealth more than what is required for his day to day existence, so on and so forth.To remain a true, ideal brahmin, may be our fore fathers might have been successful to some extent,now it is very difficult though not impossible.
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Dear SS:

As per your definition given here, what % of current Brahmins (by Birth) today can be classified as true Brahmins?

Hardly 5%-10% of the current Brahmins by sheer Birth, IMO. That's the real rub here!

What say you?
 
I agree with you.However, I have some hope that there may be a minuscule number of people living in interior rural areas still practicing brahminical traits,leading simple lives even today.
 
All those who are Brahmins by birth are trying to emulate a ideal Brahmin in their won way and capacity. Success is limited because of the environmental constraints. Yo can not simply say that Sankara Mutt is rich and therefor Sankaracharya is not a Brahmin. On the contrary Sankaracharya is a person trying to practice simplicity amidst Mutt wealth and without running away from it irresponsibly as Buddha. All Brahmins are trying to reinvent themselves for the time without loosing their integrity as Brahmin.
 
the starter of this thread meghavarshini, appears to have left us.

bored her to death did we :) :)

or another bird of passage (pun definitely meant here) :)
 
Harini said:
All those who are Brahmins by birth are trying to emulate a ideal Brahmin in their won way and capacity. Success is limited because of the environmental constraints. Yo can not simply say that Sankara Mutt is rich and therefor Sankaracharya is not a Brahmin. On the contrary Sankaracharya is a person trying to practice simplicity amidst Mutt wealth and without running away from it irresponsibly as Buddha. All Brahmins are trying to reinvent themselves for the time without loosing their integrity as Brahmin.
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Wow, Buddha is irresponsible, first time I have heard that. Now I wont cast aspersions on Shankaracharya or any other person.
But what do we think? The wealth of the Mutt or even Tirupathi temple is god-given? Just raining down the sky? Or is it because God in his infinite wisdom has decided to concentrate wealth in these few places, sucking it out of all-and-sundry, both rich and poor Indians, just so that the trustees can have the privilege of managing 100s of crores while millions in the country starve to death?
 
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