God Exists

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"my friend,i am [COLOR=#DA7911 !important][FONT=inherit !important][COLOR=#DA7911 !important][FONT=inherit !important]a [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=inherit !important][COLOR=#DA7911 !important][FONT=inherit !important]man[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] of science & engineering and i do bullshit a lot,but you go ahead i am listening to you as well " post 1423.

Yes, there are many like you - men & women of Science and Engineering - here in this Forum... for their profession and livelihood they follow S E & T... then they quickly turn around to believe in the Super-Natural GOD - A Superman - standing somewhere and controlling THEIR activities all day everyday!​

the superman is within me as hridayavaasi.that superman is called as athma in scriptures.this athman controls my body not my body controlling my athman.now can i show my athman to yo.yes by my actions known as karma siddhi.

I assume they do this because of either Tradition and/or Fear and/or Superstition... they live a double-life; some called here it as "positive hypocrisy"... I call it simply HYPOCRISY.

hypo ....never mind.

No.. I don't believe in the so-called "paranormal"! To understand Illusionists, please watch "Gulzaarish".

the world itself is a illusion.the borders created man is furthering that illusion.or NO

 

[renuka]

"my friend,i am [COLOR=#DA7911 !important][FONT=inherit !important][COLOR=#DA7911 !important][FONT=inherit !important]a [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=inherit !important][COLOR=#DA7911 !important][FONT=inherit !important]man[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] of science & engineering and i do bullshit a lot,but you go ahead i am listening to you as well " post 1423.

Yes, there are many like you - men & women of Science and Engineering - here in this Forum... for their profession and livelihood they follow S E & T... then they quickly turn around to believe in the Super-Natural GOD - A Superman - standing somewhere and controlling THEIR activities all day everyday!

I assume they do this because of either Tradition and/or Fear and/or Superstition... they live a double-life; some called here it as "positive hypocrisy"... I call it simply HYPOCRISY.

No.. I don't believe in the so-called "paranormal"! To understand Illusionists, please watch "Gulzaarish".

​

Its not hypocrisy..its not that we lead a dual life in a bipolar fashion of science and religion.
We dont view Science as separate from God.

There is no knowledge that is not from God.What ever we have discovered in the field of science and technology or anything is just Dis-Covering(unveiling) what is already present in the macrocosm just waiting to leave its blue print in the microcosm.

In fact there is no greater Scientist than God.

 

[renuka]

Renuji.
You have got me wrong. The verse from BG you have quoted means sama-bhavana.
It has nothing to do with treading a middle path. I hope this clarifies.

I have already read the link you have quoted , but that is rudimentary lesson.

I guess our definition of middle path differ.Thats Ok..variety is the spice of life.

 

[renuka]

God the Scientist

God the Scientist..you make me wonder,
How did you create without a blunder,
God the Scientist..where is your lab?
What can I say..You are simply fab.

God the Scientist..How is your mind?
Beyond words and beyond thoughts,unlike mine,
God the Scientist,..Who are your assisting crew?
Oh I forgot...its You,You and only You.

God the Scientist..Why are you so humble?
Don't hear You buzzing like some bees bumble,
God the Scientist..Why is there old and new?
Well I guess You recycle the original few.

God the Scientist..How do You manage?
Humans cant..Yes!! thats why You Incarnate.
God the Scientist..What else can I say?
If I only knew Your strange and varied ways.

God the Scientist...I have to tell You this,
I hope You don't mind..its just a slight twist,
God the Scientist..I now smile in glee,
I take some of Your credit too cos Aham Brahmaasmi.

 

[C RAVI]

God the Scientist

God the Scientist..you make me wonder,
How did you create without a blunder,
God the Scientist..where is your lab?
What can I say..You are simply fab.

God the Scientist..How is your mind?
Beyond words and beyond thoughts,unlike mine,
God the Scientist,..Who are your assisting crew?
Oh I forgot...its You,You and only You.

God the Scientist..Why are so humble?
Don't hear You buzzing like some bees bumble,
God the Scientist..Why is there old and new?
Well I guess You recycle the original few.

God the Scientist..How do You manage?
Humans cant..Yes!! thats why You Incarnate.
God the Scientist..What else can I say?
If I only knew Your strange and varied ways.

God the Scientist...I have to tell You this,
I hope You don't mind..its just a slight twist,
God the Scientist..I now smile in glee,
I take some of Your credit too cos Aham Brahmaasmi.

Greatly written dear Renuka!!

 

[Yamaka]

Its not hypocrisy..its not that we lead a dual life in a bipolar fashion of science and religion.
We dont view Science as separate from God.

There is no knowledge that is not from God.What ever we have discovered in the field of science and technology or anything is just Dis-Covering(unveiling) what is already present in the macrocosm just waiting to leave its blue print in the microcosm.

In fact there is no greater Scientist than God.

Interesting... I expected your usual answer, "Oh, SE&T is for "this material world", not for "that Eternal World of Bliss, waiting for all the Devotees of God!" ROFL ... LOL

Perhaps, you bought the Theory of Sravna of "Enjoying the Best of Both Worlds via Positive-Hypocrisy" propounded earlier in another Thread! ROFL

Anyway, Can you show some evidence of this Scientist God in your Scriptures? Preferably in Tamil or English, not in that self-contradicting confusing language called Sanskrit?

Whether this knowledge of Science known to ALL Gods of

Muslims
Christians
Jews
Hindus (including the millions of Ishta Devas/Deities)
Buddhists
Jains &
Others.

Or it depends on the Jurisdictions of the Gods: Malaysian Allah may know more Science than Hindu Krishna, etc... etc...

Enlighten the world... I pray! ROFL....LOL

Happy Deevali - Don't overdo the crackers!

 

[suraju06]

Reference post #1431 by Yamaka:

Whether this knowledge of Science known to ALL Gods of
Muslims
Christians
Jews
Hindus (including the millions of Ishta Devas/Deities)
Buddhists
Jains &
Others.

Now my one doubt has been cleared. That christianity is reserved for only such non-controversial inputs!!

Cheers.

 

[C RAVI]

Living in one track mind is foolishness
There would be nothing for you to have fulfillness
O ignorant soul, living does not mean what you could see
However grown at high, the apple has to fall from tree

When flower blossoms, you see it as real
There is nothing for you to see what's in trial
O ignorant soul, the cycle is not just what you see
However you know the most, the flower has served the bee

You want to beleive that "You did" what you did
There is nothing for you to agree it's just a bit indeed
O ignorant soul, the ocean is too deep to enable you to dwell in
However you know your way, the force would drive you out from in

You want to explore the hidden factor, just with all your intellignet marker
There is nothing for you to believe, you are assigned to be a worker
O ignorant soul, the master you ignore to realize is not your blunder
However you refuse him along the way, the truth would make you surrender..

You want to be happy that you have the control over nature's game
There is nothing for you to accept, the present is just a illusionary frame
O ignorant soul, the rule would be the same for you too, sooner or later
However you assert yourself to be perfect, the absolute perfect would agree with you for more better.

 

[renuka]

Dear Yamaka,

You wrote :

Anyway, Can you show some evidence of this Scientist God in your Scriptures? Preferably in Tamil or English, not in that self-contradicting confusing language called Sanskrit?

Ok here you in English!!!!

G--Generation(Brahma)
O--Organization(Vishnu)
D--Dissolution(Shiva)


BTW I can show you evidence that God exists!!! want to know??
Yamaka finally prays..cos you wrote:

Enlighten the world... I pray!

 

[nachi naga]

g - giver

o - observer

d - delieverer

residing in all. al - lah = malik .

al - nachi = puttar sometimes a d o g

 

[Yamaka]

My Conversation with a Traditionalist - An Orthodox Man of Religiosity:

Yamaka: Hello, Sir.. you follow the Scriptures and worship your God all day everyday... What say you about some people who believe in GOD AND at the same time making a comfortable living as people of Science, Engineering and Technology? Are they not deluding themselves as devout Religious when they think of God only as a Week-end, Month-end or Year-end Wannabe because they are fully immersed in their Jobs and Profession?

Traditionalist: Well, you touched the raw nerve of our Confused Existence...The People you refer to are like Gamblers: They want to bet on BOTH GOD and the Non-God Atheism of Science Engineering Technology ...If really God is there, then at the time of Judgement they will argue, "Well, Lord, my God, I have been thinking of you at least once a week, after all the worldly work, job and profession! Therefore, admit me in to the Heaven".

If there is no God after their death, then they will solace themselves, "Oh, I didn't lose much... I have been a person of Science Engineering & Technology.. after all, I was a physician, engineer and an IT professional... and you know, I didn't waste much of my time thinking God all the time - I was after all a Weekend Wannabe.... in any case I am a Winner, I hedged myself well... he...hi...hee"

In my mind, God is reserving a harsh verdict to those Gamblers!"

ROFL.... LOL

Happy Deevali, ALL.

 

[Yamaka]

Reference post #1431 by Yamaka:

Now my one doubt has been cleared. That christianity is reserved for only such non-controversial inputs!!

Cheers.

Why to isolate the Christian God only here? See Michael Angelo's Pieta

 

[kailash]

namaste,

the best answer I got was from a rickshaw driver - "naan paakkuDadi - driving paNre illiyA - romba avasaram irimdA nInga jAgrattiyA doDane mele pArangu - traffik iliyA - anda sUryan irikari iliyA avare kaDavalu- avara illame naan irippenA...anda payyan epiDi porano parango .... etc. etc...."

 

[nannilam_balasubramanian]

Mother Teresa mentioned in her quotes : Service to People is Service to God. It is generally said that your attitude decides your altitude, i.e. your aim or goal. Life is not a laughing matter. There is a proverb to say : If you can always smile on life, life will
always smile on you. We need only modesty, humility, involvement, devotion and dedication in any work we are engaged or we
are asked to do. When a tree is laden with fruits, it bends down, it does not mean that it is because of its weight. It enables others to enjoy its fruits. It may be said : The fruit of silence is Prayer/Meditation, The fruit of prayer/mediation is one's own
faith/self reliance, the fruit of faith is love and affection and the fruit of love/affection is Service to humanity and service to God.
Last but not least, the fruit of Service attains and gains Peace in one's own mind which results in mental satisfaction. If we do
self analysis when in troubles and good time, we will certainly derive the pleasure of existence of God.

Balasubramanian
Ambattur Chennai

 

[jayalakshmiK]

Hi, i agree this is true to some extent- but this could apply only to people mature enough( in age and mind) to think. what about suffering of newborns,handicapped, disease ridden children/adults etc? The only explanation given for this is ones 'karma'.
Jayalakshmi

 

[nannilam_balasubramanian]

Hi, i agree this is true to some extent- but this could apply only to people mature enough( in age and mind) to think. what about suffering of newborns,handicapped, disease ridden children/adults etc? The only explanation given for this is ones 'karma'.
Jayalakshmi

Thank you for your inputs. Give everyone they ear. Owing to the sufferings of Karma, even amidst that, there will be a stage of good deeds i.e. Punya. As you known, the prophets say, there are pariharams to dhoshams. One may not know the bad deeds
of purva janma. Perhaps that may be the reason, we are driven to some problems at times. But if we start doing certain good deeds and practices, the percentages of troubles will be lesser. The past is not going to be repeated. Like that future can be anything and not immediately measureable. So, what we have in hand today in our hand is our present stage of life. Hence, I feel
with devotion and bakthi marga, one can certainly overcome the problems to certain extent and the percentage of troubles can
certainly be wiped out/erased or set aside. For this one has to sincerely approach the problems and tell the affected people in a
language which they understand and slowly make them to do little by little and that would enable them to come out of the
passing clouds. This is my humble submission and personal opinion.

Balasubramanian
Ambattur Chennai

 

[sangom]

Thank you for your inputs. Give everyone they ear. Owing to the sufferings of Karma, even amidst that, there will be a stage of good deeds i.e. Punya. As you known, the prophets say, there are pariharams to dhoshams. One may not know the bad deeds
of purva janma. Perhaps that may be the reason, we are driven to some problems at times. But if we start doing certain good deeds and practices, the percentages of troubles will be lesser. The past is not going to be repeated. Like that future can be anything and not immediately measureable. So, what we have in hand today in our hand is our present stage of life. Hence, I feel
with devotion and bakthi marga, one can certainly overcome the problems to certain extent and the percentage of troubles can
certainly be wiped out/erased or set aside. For this one has to sincerely approach the problems and tell the affected people in a
language which they understand and slowly make them to do little by little and that would enable them to come out of the
passing clouds. This is my humble submission and personal opinion.

Balasubramanian
Ambattur Chennai

Neither devotion nor bhakti marga, nor even pilgrimages or the so-called pious deeds like homam, abhishekam etc., will remove the evil effects of past karmas. Persistent introspection or nididhyāsana as Acarya Sankara advocates, finding out the deficiencies in one's own character and behaviour and removing those defects and developing an attitude of universal goodwill and love - that alone will show one the path to overcome the karmic obstacles in one's life.

 

[nannilam_balasubramanian]

Deeds of the Past

I too agree with you. Totally it is not possible.

In fact, we did Thila Homam in Rameswaram once to get out of some
problems. But it is only belief that makes us to think that we can come
out to some extent. But we didn't succeed. Of late, there are instances,
where I could assist my friends to get out of some troubles and that we
find little positive approach. Hence, I submitted that information.

Balasubramanian
Ambattur Chennai

 

[prasad1]

बंदर क्या जाने अदरक का स्वाद Bandar kya jaane adark ka swaad (Hindi)

• Literal: What does a monkey know of the taste of ginger?
• Translation: Someone who can't understand can't appreciate

I dont understand these narcissists trying to show off their ignorance. I guess our misfortune that we are not lucky to get smart narcissist.

Sangom is one smart in the gang but just for companionship he too joins others, it is a shame, what a waste.

Kurangu kaiyile poo malai.

 

[nannilam_balasubramanian]

While we talk of many things about the past bad deeds which we do not know
ourselves until we suffer and someone tells us that because of our or our ancestral's
deeds, the sufferings have come. The solution we search is to come out of the
hurdles and try to live peacefully.

To quote an instance, leave alone past deeds or mistakes knowingly or unknowingly
committed by elders in our family in the past generations.

As far as I know, whenever the sign of existence of something bad/omen; whether
be good or bad, I instantly surrender myself to my Kuladeivam Sri Mathurakali Amman
and chant her slokas. And I can say proudly that I am able to come out of myself
from that, if there is anything bad that is going to happen. I am successful in my
attempts so far. And that gives me the Faith in God. I do all rituals regularly
without fail and strictly follow the instructions taught by elders. Wherever there is
doubt, I refer to the books of "Sandeha Nivarani" if the relevant information is available.
That is all.

I am sure if we have faith in God, HE or SHE WILL NOT LET US DOWN IN OUR LIFE.

Balasubramanian
Amabattur Chennai

 

[sarang]

Sankara bagavadpada, after completing his bhashyam on brahma sutras, finally said, 'bhaja govindam, bhaja govindam, moodamathe'

Azhwarkadiyan in kalki's ponniyin selvan.

Neither devotion nor bhakti marga, nor even pilgrimages or the so-called pious deeds like homam, abhishekam etc., will remove the evil effects of past karmas. Persistent introspection or nididhyāsana as Acarya Sankara advocates, finding out the deficiencies in one's own character and behaviour and removing those defects and developing an attitude of universal goodwill and love - that alone will show one the path to overcome the karmic obstacles in one's life.

 

[Yamaka]

"I am sure if we have faith in God, HE or SHE WILL NOT LET US DOWN IN OUR LIFE." - post 1445.

India has about 900 million POOR people (defined as people making Rs 160 or less per day per person). Of this, about 800 millions are devotees of some God..

They pray everyday to their Benevolent God,,, still that God has totally forgotten them. HE has let them down in their life.

So, what happened to their Blind Faith?

Is it then, the so-called Janma Poorva Karma? Which even God can't rectify it?!!

All big HOAX....A design to cheat the masses!

Wait & watch.

 

[nannilam_balasubramanian]

I am sorry I am not able to accept this totally. Even that Rs.160, what they are earning is due to someone's direction and
why not that be God's representative. God directly doesn't speak to anyone in Kaliyuga. He only shows the path to his
devotees, whatever may be the form. It is the Almighty, the Supreme Power which acts above all of us makes us to live
when He gives birth to us. We are only the actors on the earth, as explained by the Great Poet Shakespeare in his renowed
poem. If God is to be with us always, why should He/She leave us separately on this Booloka. He/She only gives us the directions on how to get the feel of His/Her presence in some form or other. I would like to conclude with this.

Balasubramanian
Ambattur, Chennai

 

[C RAVI]

I am sorry I am not able to accept this totally. Even that Rs.160, what they are earning is due to someone's direction and
why not that be God's representative. God directly doesn't speak to anyone in Kaliyuga. He only shows the path to his
devotees, whatever may be the form. It is the Almighty, the Supreme Power which acts above all of us makes us to live
when He gives birth to us. We are only the actors on the earth, as explained by the Great Poet Shakespeare in his renowed
poem. If God is to be with us always, why should He/She leave us separately on this Booloka. He/She only gives us the directions on how to get the feel of His/Her presence in some form or other. I would like to conclude with this.

Balasubramanian
Ambattur, Chennai

You are right, Sri Balasubramanian..

Generally, only the sufferers can truly and easily realize the presene of God and not the others who had good fate, due their past karma and have all success & luxury of life.

Poor people in their day to day life and after certain stage in life as they live along, could realize the mercy of GOD, as a result of their prayers and cry, that has enabled them to come a long way, holding on their righteous way of living.

That is what puzzling many atheist as how 900 million theist poor in India are still into bakthi marga...


For example, a person is in a real fix and had to get out of his problem at any cost. Because, for him more than money his pride is important and should not be accused of malpractices, being an innocent. He, as a beleiver prays GOD whole heartedly day and night and gets the verdict in his favor and left free as innocent. He could get himself relieved of his agony not only with the funds he could manage to fight but most importantly with the mercy of GOD.

Now if this person blames GOD to have made him almost poper buy putting him in such a critical situatioin, and don't be thankful to GOD for what he wanted most importantly and granted subsequently, what can we say about him?

Due to such people only Atheists are concluding that GOD does not exist and such people are blindly following spirituality, having been brainwashed by miscreants, with their agenda of looting the masses.

 

[Yamaka]

I am sorry I am not able to accept this totally. Even that Rs.160, what they are earning is due to someone's direction and
why not that be God's representative. God directly doesn't speak to anyone in Kaliyuga. He only shows the path to his
devotees, whatever may be the form. It is the Almighty, the Supreme Power which acts above all of us makes us to live
when He gives birth to us. We are only the actors on the earth, as explained by the Great Poet Shakespeare in his renowed
poem. If God is to be with us always, why should He/She leave us separately on this Booloka. He/She only gives us the directions on how to get the feel of His/Her presence in some form or other. I would like to conclude with this.

Balasubramanian
Ambattur, Chennai

For the reasons I cited above in post 1447, this Faith & Janma Poorva Karma are plain and simple HOAX to cheat the masses!

Enjoy it...