How to arrest the slide in TB numbers

[vgane]

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My suggestion to brahmin boys:

TB boys, Whenever you come across a strupid old man who recommends expansively to TB girls and goads them on to marry any boy forgeting caste, take him aside and quietly give a quick punch and blacken his face.
Then just watch the fun of how he explains the swollen face. LOL.

This is just a general recommendation and not to harm any one in particular. LOL.

A good one! Tamsik response is the need of the hour! Sattvik won's work!

 

[Vaidyshy]

My quote is for Brahmin boys and not a general rule for Brahmin girls to induce ICM. IF THE BRAHMIN BOY'S EXPECTATIONS ARE HIGH, TONE IT DOWN FOR A brahmin GIRL WHO LOVES HIM TO MATERIALISE THE ALLIANCE FOR A PEACEFUL LIFE. THOUGH I am old I shall not advocate ICM and I have no other motive except brahmin progeny increases in the generations to come. If you still call me a stupid old man, let me accept it.

 

[renuka]

A good one! Tamsik response is the need of the hour! Sattvik won's work!

Its Rajas...Rajas is reaction.

 

[tbs]

hi

my suggestion to TB boys....atleast marry any gal,... not to go for gay......

my suggestion to TB gals...if u prefer a NB....go with rich guy....just enjoy atleast...if u want to marry a B boy ..ready to

face hard life ahead with ambis....this is suggestion only.....

 

[biswa]

But Renuka, desire can be developed and potentially anyone can be loved. You only have to work on your prejudices.

Including a perpetrator of rape? Are you relying on Stockholm syndrome?

 

[Raji Ram]

After reading the recent posts, I understand why some frequent writers don't wish to meet other members in person!

 

[sravna]

Including a perpetrator of rape? Are you relying on Stockholm syndrome?

Dear Biswa,

I rely on the inherent divine nature of everybody and the possibility of curing even a diseased mind.

 

[sravna]

Dear Renuka,

Women need no empowerment. They are the ones with power. A modern example of shiva and shakthi would be electricity and bulb. Shakthi is the electricity that powers the bulb. Without electricity the bulb will not work.

Let me think how it actually applies apart from shiva and shakthi to normal man and woman

The female counterparts are the driving force for even the trinity. The intelligence personified by Saraswathi is what is evident in the creation of Brahma, Shiva uses the power of Shakthi to destroy evil and the Vishnu the god of sustenance has Lakshmi the Goddess of well being or fortune as his counterpart.

I would say the trinity use each of these three of power, intelligence and fortune. From the perspective of humans, the women represent the above three. So a man can draw strength, take advise and increase his well being because of his wife. I think that is the right role of a woman . The inner strength that a woman can give a man will help him handle the external pressures. In general a man can gain inner strength from right relationships and wife is an important one.

 

[tbs]

After reading the recent posts, I understand why some frequent writers don't wish to meet other members in person!

hi

its secret...they say something here...in real..its different story...

 

[V.Balasubramani]

Everything cannot be put in black and white. It may prove different .....

But don't infer that it may be black and blue......

While some believe in அன்பே சிவம், few may practice சாம தான பேத தண்டம்.

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

After reading the recent posts, I understand why some frequent writers don't wish to meet other members in person!

This story is different - You may remember Adelide Ravi who was an old member of the forum He should be around 50 now He lives in Adelide He lost his wife and daughter in Tsunami in Marina He His mother and his friends from Adelide were in Madurai and had dinner with us - His Guru found him another Brahmin Girl of tamil origin Rajalakshmi and his mother was so happy about this and asked us to attend the wedding at Udaipur and I accepted their invitation On the wedding day his mother requested us to take the role of his parents and we played that role! His mother died recenty a loving mother who was supportive during bad pach in his life Ravi visits my Brother in Law settled in Perth whever he goes there - 3 years back when one of our friend went to Adelide to put his daughter in that University Ravi received them in the Air Port and looked after them

One more member from Bangalore - visible rarely in this forum had stayed over night in our house few years back when he visited Madurai on official work few years back!

 

[krish44]

There are some who would like to be only internet online friends and not like to meet in person .

The relationship is only at intellect level to share ideas and thoughts.

It is wise to put elationships in different brackets and not mix up

Relationship on internet platforms and friendship nurtured thru on line transactions belong to virtual world and may not as fulfilling and remain as alluring when we meet

the person in flesh and blood. To avoid disappointments it is better we maintain both online and off line friendships as they are and not attempt mix ups.

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

There are some who would like to be only internet online friends and not like to meet in person .

The relationship is only at intellect level to share ideas and thoughts.

It is wise to put elationships in different brackets and not mix up

Relationship on internet platforms and friendship nurtured thru on line transactions belong to virtual world and may not as fulfilling and remain as alluring when we meet

the person in flesh and blood. To avoid disappointments it is better we maintain both online and off line friendships as they are and not attempt mix ups.

Before internet era it was Pen Pals I had one Pal sharing pleasure and pain over 50 years till her death 2 years ago - We never met in person! only through letters! In Both these situation I enjoyed the warmth !

More pictures from file on Udaipur story

https://photos.google.com/u/0/album/AF1QipN8WwHEGBZ1Sk5AlTqt3ztgy2BO97Uxw6lKoyzE

 

[renuka]

In general a man can gain inner strength from right relationships and wife is an important one.

Dear Sravna,

Yup...Right relationships...you have used plural here.

I guess Chinna Veedus too have their role!LOL

 

[renuka]

Before internet era it was Pen Pals I had one Pal sharing pleasure and pain over 50 years till her death 2 years ago - We never met in person! only through letters! In Both these situation I enjoyed the warmth !

More pictures from file on Udaipur story

https://photos.google.com/u/0/album/AF1QipN8WwHEGBZ1Sk5AlTqt3ztgy2BO97Uxw6lKoyzE

When I was young I wanted to have a Pen Pal but my mum did not allow it..she said it could be distracting to studies writing to an unknown person.

But now in internet era..we can connect to the whole world too!LOL

 

[renuka]

There are some who would like to be only internet online friends and not like to meet in person .

The relationship is only at intellect level to share ideas and thoughts.

It is wise to put elationships in different brackets and not mix up

Relationship on internet platforms and friendship nurtured thru on line transactions belong to virtual world and may not as fulfilling and remain as alluring when we meet

the person in flesh and blood. To avoid disappointments it is better we maintain both online and off line friendships as they are and not attempt mix ups.

True...some amount of mystery is always needed to keep my interest in anyone I interact with online. If I were to meet internet friends in real life..I might not even know what to talk.

The difference is like Romance and Love.

Internet friends are like Romance...it needs no commitment yet fun filled.

Real life friends are like Love..it needs commitment and emotional responsibility.

Being an emotionally irresponsible person..I prefer no commitments!LOL

 

[Raji Ram]

.... its secret...they say something here...in real..its different story...

Oh! Oorukku upadesam!! :blah:

 

[Raji Ram]

This story is different - You may remember Adelide Ravi who was an old member of the forum .....

Dear J J Ji,

I have met about 15 of our forum members! :thumb: (record, probably!)

BTW, one frequent writer will know what I meant since music season is just over.

P.S: I don't know Adelaide Ravi because I joined forum only on 10 - 10 - 10!! Easy to remember, right?

 

[mkrishna100]

True...some amount of mystery is always needed to keep my interest in anyone I interact with online. If I were to meet internet friends in real life..I might not even know what to talk.

It all depends upon what we like to share and interact online and that we would like to extned offline also . I met an online friend of mine ( we were part of as spiritual forum ) and found to our surprise that we stayed in the same street though I had never seem him .Meeting him personally was very beneficial for me as he took me to some spiritual satsangs and talks that I never knew about and also gave me some CDs and Books of his for my reading and listening . I never discuss anything personal and I keep our discussions purely on spiritual topics and I was very much benefitted by my association with him in real life also . I have few more such good examples of meeting online friends within India and also outside India . We cant really catgeorize these things and each indiivudal must evaluate for himself what is best kept online and where to extned the association offline also .

 

[auh]

Some may fail to understand as to how can this alleged intellectual violent section/group can be termed as very dangerous?

If that is the case, one may wonder as to why this group/section failed to protect itself when there was ethnic cleaning/genocide of pundits at Kashmir?

It is reported that they were kicked out of their homes, their properties and temples were burnt down, their women were raped, their children were beaten up, they were shot down in cold blood.

Dear sir,

You are trying to connect unrelated dots, I feel. We are talking about TBs here.

 

[auh]

It is history that these poor Brahmins were beheaded by Arabian invaders, crucified in Goa by Portuguese inquisition, vilified by British missionaries and nobody can dispute this.

Are you trying to convey that Arab invaders beheaded only Brahmins, that only Brahmins were crucified in Portuguese inquisitions, and that only Brahmins were vilified by British missionaries?

Starting a thread with a sole aim of protecting the community from getting reduced is fine but participation of BB group by contributing absurd and thus try to morally crucify the left out Brahmins in this Forum too by mention of words like intellectual violence, arrogance, etc should be disocuraged.

Well sir, for a start can you please list out the features of Brahmin culture and answer my queries as to why it should be preserved and what special benefit or end we seek to attain? Who and when can someone be classified as a BB? Please clarify.

I do not think that any "left out brahmins" of this forum are morally crucified. That seems too far a stretch. You please go ahead and try to rebut my points with counter points. Please do not slander the poster as this serves no purpose other than to heat the discussion up.

Let us accept the reality and move on.

Whose version of reality?

Try to keep these Brahmin Bashers at Bay

When somebody differs on an opinion, it does not mean that like minded members have to immediately group up and gag the opposing voices. When we do that it means we are showing a similar intolerance that we see in the extremists.

 

[auh]

shri vgane has posted this in the politics section of the forum

http://www.tamilbrahmins.com/showthread.php?t=30952&p=339225#post339225

With all due respects to the gentleman mentioned in the article.

Why should the village feel proud? Why should India feel proud? He has gone to the US. He is not a priest. Two generations of his families are in US. We do not know whether they speak Tamil the TB style or the US style. We do not know whether they celebrate pongal (the harvest festival), and whether it coincides with the weather and harvest season of USA (their homeland). We do not know if they perform trikala gayathri japam in winter and summer. (Forget aupasanam and study of the scriptures.)

What are we chasing?

 

[prasad1]

After reading the recent posts, I understand why some frequent writers don't wish to meet other members in person!

I enjoyed meeting some of the forum members in person. I interact with some others on e-mail. I am friends with some other members through PM.
Some members on this forum I would not like to meet in person.

 

[prasad1]

shri vgane has posted this in the politics section of the forum

http://www.tamilbrahmins.com/showthread.php?t=30952&p=339225#post339225

With all due respects to the gentleman mentioned in the article.

Why should the village feel proud? Why should India feel proud? He has gone to the US. He is not a priest. Two generations of his families are in US. We do not know whether they speak Tamil the TB style or the US style. We do not know whether they celebrate pongal (the harvest festival), and whether it coincides with the weather and harvest season of USA (their homeland). We do not know if they perform trikala gayathri japam in winter and summer. (Forget aupasanam and study of the scriptures.)

What are we chasing?

You are so right.
I have been asking the same question in this thread and others.
No one including VGANEji, Baluji and others who lament the loss of culture have answered. What is that we are preserving? What is lost?

 

[V.Balasubramani]

Auh Ji

I know that this Forum is a platform for members consisting of all shades to express their opinion freely, but I sincerely believe that there is a ‘Lakshman rekha’ and there is a need for self-regulation too.

Now my answers are given in blue.


Are you trying to convey that Arab invaders beheaded only Brahmins, that only Brahmins were crucified in Portuguese inquisitions, and that only Brahmins were vilified by British missionaries?

Can you solemnly and sincerely deny that these Arabian Invaders have not beheaded Brahmins, Portuguese have not crucified Brahmins during the Inquisition at Goa and the British Missionaries treated us well?


Well sir, for a start can you please list out the features of Brahmin culture and answer my queries as to why it should be preserved and what special benefit or end we seek to attain? Who and when can someone be classified as a BB? Please clarify.

Well Sir, as for your queries as to why it should be preserved and what special benefit or end we seek to attain, etc I would like to add that it is an அரைத்து அரைத்து பிளித்துப்போன மாவு as defined by one of the senior members of this Forum. I vouch his opinion.

Who and when can someone be classified as a BB? Please clarify.

Well, those who are against Brahmanism are considered as Brahmin Bashers. To be more specific those who insult, humiliate, ridicule Brahmins their traditions and culture.

Now I have a question. Can you be honest and declare before the members of this Forum that there is nothing against Brahmins amounting to insult, humiliation, ridiculing, etc in this thread?

I do not think that any "left out brahmins" of this forum are morally crucified. That seems too far a stretch.

May be it is your opinion. For an orthodox and sensitive hapless Brahmins, mention of such words like intellectual violence, arrogance, etc may be quite damaging.

Please do not slander the poster as this serves no purpose other than to heat the discussion up.


I have absolutely no idea to slander anyone in this Forum.


Whose version of reality?

There is no your version or our version in reality? What is happening before us in our everyday life is reality.


When somebody differs on an opinion, it does not mean that like minded members have to immediately group up and gag the opposing voices. When we do that it means we are showing a similar intolerance that we see in the extremists

There is no grouping up as such and have never attempted to muzzle anyone’s voice. But never fail to retort/retaliate anyone who try to rub the wrong way.

When a topic is being seriously discussed, I appreciate members contributing healthy debate, lively exchange of opinion, etc But I am against someone ridiculing the community, humiliating the culture and tradition, etc without understanding the rich value. Hope I made my point clear.

Last but not the least is that being a knowledge seeker, I am here to learn.