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Is the caste system weakness of Hinduism?

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If you think Sri.Sangom's message in post #882 is strange, I sincerely think, you should high light the portions that are not aggreeable, please.
I know, but this has turned out to be a very nasty business. Enough has been said, and I would like people to make up their own mind. As far as Shri Sangom is concerned, my admiration and respect for him remains in tact, even though I can't disagree with his post #882 more.

Thank you ...
 
Folks, please re-read Happy's anguished post. I feel bad, I should have stood up more forcefully in real time, I was not following the posts very closely, and now it is too late.

The number of posts made by a member does not mean he is the most popular or is more likely to make perfect posts, or has more privileges, etc., etc., but it does show the member has made a commitment to this forum and means well. In the case of K, he served as Super Moderator as well for a period. He has been a shining example of moderation and civility. Now enters a newcomer, makes outlandish comments, and gets questioned by several people including K, and this person increasingly becomes belligerent.

He takes K's parentage comment, which was a general observation about the fact we all are mere mutts, tall claims of written records of ancestry going back to Vedic rishees not withstanding, and twists it into something K never said. Shri Sangom, with due respects sir, added fuel to this fire. Why RP's account of Dalit misbehavior is utterly believable, but K's words of objection must be subjected to microscopic scruiny, I don't understand?

What do we know about RP? Perhaps he is a genuine scholar with lot to contribute towards the knowledge pool of this forum. Perhaps he is another firebrand brahminist with a big chip on his shoulder and a victimhood complex so heavy he has to shout to calm himself. From what I have observed in this forum, both kinds are welcome here, and that is good. But, we can't have him bully anyone, let alone a longstanding member, one who has demonstrated a commitment to the forum, who, most popular or not has won the admiration of many members. I went back and reread all the posts, and it is clear that RP was quick to condemn and quick to take offense.

Even if RP did not use all caps in post #834, its contents would still be quite objectionable. In response, K signed off and even wished RP well. But RP kept escalating twisting K's words. It is amazing that K kept his cool and tried to explain why he said what he said.

[1] Reasoning with the bully and telling K he is not perfect seems strangely, what can I say, strange?
[2] I feel bad to say this as I respect nobody more than Shri Sangom, but his post #882, is even stranger. The comments made against K in this post are misrepresentations and overly forgiving of RP's vitriol.

IMO, the above, [1] and [2], are the reasons for K leaving, not RP. This is why K at one point said he has no quarrel with RP.


IMO, this is just brinkmanship, only thing achieved with a challenge like this is to show how unreasonable K has been. If it is a misunderstanding, and if the goal is to clear the misunderstanding, then a challenge like this is the worst thing one can do, it will only aggravate the situation.

I think K will come back, it may not be immediate, but I hope it will be sooner than later.

Cheers!

Dear Shri Nara,

Firstly I do not find what exactly is objectionable and why in RP's post#834.
To my simple mind it appears even now that Shri Kunjuppu is/was intolerant of anyone coming in with ideas which did not sync with his own. This intolerance expressed itself in the strident language and its tone, according to me. When he picked on RP's signature for no reason, I considered that k was really exceeding his brief and behaving as if he is an extra-constitutional authority. In this connection I firmly believe that no one here - other than the moderator/s for the time being, and Shri Praveen, of course - should not get any ideas of superiority over other lesser beings, based on the number of posts, date of becoming a member, age, qualifications, station in life, etc., etc.

From my pov Shri Kunjuppu's posts reflected that only certain acceptable lines of thinking will be "tolerated' in this forum and none else. His questioning about the bonafides of RP (single agenda, is he a known person?, etc.) only prove, to me, that Kunjuppu will drive out those whom he does not like and will entertain only those who follow his line of thinking on his limited agenda.

In my very short tenure in this forum I found that what Shri KRS wanted to prevent in fact, as indicated in in his post # 883 as supermoderator (quoted below) is actually happening; viz., this forum is more a club of a few who state the same ideas over and over.

"...Sri R. Parthasarathy Ji is as welcome as any of us to post his views here, without any fear of being moderated just for his ideas. In this, I do not share Sri Kunjuppu's fear - that some folks come back here to disrupt and so we need to be on vigil. My stand is that we should encourage our new members to express their ideas, as we can have new perspectives only with new membership. Otherwise, this Forum will turn in to a club of a few, who state the same ideas over and over. We do not want that."

In addition to all the above, Shri Kunjuppu did (I firmly believe) castigate RP for his signature on the mistaken impression that "Jai Hind" is parochial and non-hindus are insulted. When cornered on this point he did not have a convincing reply and my query (about 70 percent of the Indian population) remains unanswered by him.

I feel that despite whatever paeans are being paid to Shri Kunjuppu here now, his was also an agenda of very few items like icm and dissolution of the brahmin identity itself, plus,not recognising the poverty and difficulties still being faced by a section of tambrams from other sections of the society.

So I stand by my views expressed in my post #882. Since my views there have been not found suitable by you, and considering the prevailing philosophy in this forum to give recognition to no. of posts, tenure, past super-moderatorship, etc., it looks to me that for the smooth functioning of this forum as it was before my entry, it will be best for me to step down.

Thank you all sincerely.
 
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lost in touch with this forum for a while, but moving through old posts, gave me a shock and pain today. though a brief time span, and though sh.kunjuppus views were totally opposite of mine, though he cautioned or advised me on few posts, they were are fruitful in all angles. he was not a person of hurting type either with this scripts or with his tone, and i could boldly opine that he has not NOT NOT failed in his part in any of his recent posts, where few are picking on him. i have read, re-read, re-read them all. its my opinion, and its a strong point of view.

when i log in , first thing i look out for is sh.kunjuppu posts. esp his tone of writing are alway soft and sweet. and his style of english writing is somethig amazes me and i would say, no one in this forum has such a caliber. i dont know how senior he is, i dont care how many posts he has made, but no one in this forum has the skill like him. has that become an envy of few? his critique on Jai Hind is perfectly all right..1200%. truth hurts, if you disagree hit on the point of un-truth, but not the person who expressed the truth or untruth. Again few comments about his appeal for self moderation was sarcastic and pricking. self moderation is the best and peaceful too than forced moderation. he tried to bring a new culture, which is good for all, and to some extend he suceeded in get it implemented among the members.

he is the jewel in the crown of this forum. even if some one feels he is wrong , i bet no, but still, for the brightness he brought here, all should join together shedding all egoes, and invite him back. given a chance to me that, if member X, Y, X leaves the forum one hand against Sh.kunjuppu, i would ask XYZ to vacate , and plead sh.kunjuppu to stay. such is the regard i have for his him and such is the enjoyement i got reading his post.

Sh.kunjuppu, i have not interacted much , but i have read all your post. Please come back home..
 
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Among many others, I join to admit that, I regard Sri Kunjuppu to the extreme and I do enjoy reading his posts a lot.

I would request Sri Kunjuppu to come back with the same charm and glory and be a mentor to all of us here.

IMHO, we have to admit that, our ideas and views jiggling in our thoughts seldom gets projected perfectly in written communication. No individuals are identical, to the least not at all given circumstances and ideas. If one is found to be angry and aggressive, its better to take maximum efforts to contradict in a manner, that would make him/her think rather misunderstand and fire back. We need to be more sensitive towards others sensitivity and ensure no pain to any one & dishevelment of any sort, doesn't matter our views/ideas been accepted or not.
 
Dear Shri Sangom, I want to comment on just one point because I think there is a small misunderstanding. K did not object to Jai Hind initially, in fact he also signed off one of his posts with Jai Hind. It is only after RP was quite critical of Dalits that he did so. The 25% he was referring to was Dalits who serve in the military in vastly larger proportion. So, I think, K must have felt offended that RP, after heaping outrageous insults upon Dalits, would then sign off with Jai Hind.

Dear sir, we have a disagreement on this issue, though we agree on many others. The disagreement here is probably due only to different perspectives, and I hope to leave this behind. I certainly hope we don't lose your membership as well, that would be a double whammy, too unbearable. Shri Sangom sir, it will break my heart and that of many others if you also leave us. Tolerate me as though I am a misguided younger brother.

I request moderators not to close this thread prematurely as that will only leave unresolved issues to fester.

Cheers!
 
Dear Shri Nara,


So I stand by my views expressed in my post #882. Since my views there have been not found suitable by you, and considering the prevailing philosophy in this forum to give recognition to no. of posts, tenure, past super-moderatorship, etc., it looks to me that for the smooth functioning of this forum as it was before my entry, it will be best for me to step down.

Thank you all sincerely.

Shri Sangom,

I respect you like my dad and the same goes with Sri Kunjuppu...


I liked many of yours and Sri Kunjuppu’s posts, highlighting the ground realities and ethaarthams of life and relationships.

I find the same qualities in your each of the postings and enjoying every single posts. Iam happy to see many like you carrying some values towards our tradition and society and relationships and gives me a sense of discussing with my parents.

[FONT=&quot]Sri Sangom ji, I humbly request you to continue in fourm. I am much younger to you and like your son..I love and respect you a lot. You are mentor for us in forum and in general. I kindly request you not to dishearten us please....Please....please....Continue in Forum with your charm and glory...Many love you and many require your guidance...You are the asset of our forum...I just cant see you leaving the forum...please...please...please...


Pranams...


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Folks,

I do not see a reason to close this thread.

This Forum serves to uphold the interests of our community. Because our community is so diverse, arguments and misunderstandings are bound to happen.

All our members are valuable to our cause. There is like almost 10 to 1 readership of the topics here among those who do not contribute. I know for a fact that many, many folks, including the most important demographics - the young - have been influenced by what is posted here. We have folks on either side of the poles of views on everything - from religion to the direction the community should take and language and customs! The breadth of topics discussed is awesome and pertinent and this is why I originally subscribed to join and continue to stay.

So, this is my plea to everyone. Please do not walk away. Whatever the personal hurt may be, those of us who have been here for a while need to understand our impact on our community so far and yes, need to bury our personal feelings in the interest of the community.

I myself have quit a couple of times in the past, but after realizing what I said above, I came back. The Forum is bigger than all of us and Sri Praveen Ji has worked hard to make it so.

So, I humbly request Sri Kunjuppu Ji to come back and implore Sri Sangom Ji, not to leave. We have lost some very good members in the past for various reasons, who spoke their minds with logic and humor and we wish the history not to repeat itself.

Regards,
KRS
 
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Respectable members,

I fought all the way in my life. I never had anything on a silver platter. I was thinking about the situation in this thread. I realise, there is a very strong possiblity, some members are going to blame me for Sri.Kunjuppu's departure. (Sri.Nara already indicated that in post #899). I am not keen to carry that kind of a chip on my shoulder. My instict tells me to do, what I usually do....to fight it. So, I removed the unconditional apology from post #900.

Ok, here we go....

Sri.Nara said -

Reasoning with the bully and telling K he is not perfect seems strangely, what can I say, strange?

Sri.Nara, I did not say Sri.Kunjuppu was not perfect; all I said was, Sri.Kunjuppu may not post perfect messages everytime, all the time. In post #874 I said
I strive to look at each individual post on its merits and demerits. For example, just because you have posted oveer 2675 messages, just because you are the most popular member in this forum does not guarantee perfect messages everytime from you; there may be areas you may be lesss informed. As human beings, we are not perfect.
Can you kindly show me the portion in that message that says Sri.Kunjuppu is imperfect, please?

In your haste, you have decided to ignore the explanations I posted in #886
In my message in post in #874, in this thread, I wanted to reiterate, that we are not perfect; anyone could make a mistake..WRT to looking at messages on the individual basis for merits and demerits; when I wanted to give an example, I refered Sri.Kunjuppu's name because I respect him the most in this forum...to give more reasons why he was the best of the examples, I mentioned about his being 'the most popular' and the number of posts like 2600+ number etc.
Why this message was ignored by you? all you had to say was
If it is a misunderstanding, and if the goal is to clear the misunderstanding, then a challenge like this is the worst thing one can do, it will only aggravate the situation.
Well, one should have an open mind to recognise explanations when they stumble upon them. Why should my request be seen as a challenge? Don't you think I may have feelings too? Don't you think I may need some explanations when I am accused of personal attack?

The truth is, I mentored Sri.R.Parthasarathy. I was not involved in any discussions between Sri.RP and Sri.Kunjuppu. What's more, the only message I posted in that discussion was in support of Sri.Kunjuppu! Here it is in post #855..
Sri.Parthasarathy Sir,

Greetings. Personally, I see a misunderstanding here. Caste brahmins, like any other caste have been marrying within relations; There is a talk about declining number of girls in the Tamizh Brahmin society; some of the Tamizh brahmin boys seem to be not able to [COLOR=#DA7911 ! important][COLOR=#DA7911 ! important]get [COLOR=#DA7911 ! important]married[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR], since they are not able to find suitable (or any) caste brahmin girls. Such ideas were discussied many a times in this forum in various threads. Sri.Kunjuppu made a comment in such circumstances. If it so happens, in his view, ICM marriages are not such a bad idea since, by accepting the newcomer within the caste brahmin fold, the community can increase in numbers; such infusion of fresh blood may also remove genetic defects which may have caused due to in-breeeding. Well, that's the way, I personally read Sri.Kunjuppu's words. I request you to consider the possibility where Sri.Kunjuppu was not very clear in his message. If I were you, I would have asked Sri.Kunjuppu to explain his message before getting upset.

Still it is not too late. I request you to kindly ask Sri.Kunjuppu to explain his message, please.

Cheers!
You may read it for yourself. Matter of fact, I was engaged in discussion with Sri.Sangom at that time. Since I saw Sri.RP getting all upset, I thought about easing the situation. It is all in black and white. You are welcome to stand by Sri.Kunjuppu; you need not do it at my cost, please. Thanks.

Sri.shivKC Sir, Greetings. In post #904 you said -
given a chance to me that, if member X, Y, X leaves the forum one hand against Sh.kunjuppu, i would ask XYZ to vacate....
Well Sir, Sri.Kunjuppu left after the discussions with me and Sri.Sangom. Consider you are given the chance. How about proving me I was wrong, please? I may even vacate. You guys should understand, if you like to support someone, well and good; but don't try to do it at others cost.

Sri.Kunjuppu Sir, if you like to have a break from the forum or if you want pursue different interests during your leisure time, that is understandable; but, you need not leave suddenly leaving couple of members to hold the hot water. Your action is very un-gentlemanly to say the least. Others may heap praises upon you; I always tell the truth, you claim you tell the truth too. Now let us look at the truth in this situation - you have left without answering my questions. You could have asked me to explain my writings; instead of that, you accused me with a list of charges. You should be civilised enough to let me answer my charges. Then you can say whether I disappoint you or you disappoint the whole forum.

Sri.Nara said in post #879 -
Count me on the side of civility and all that is decent.
Sri.Nara, can you kindly tell me honestly, who is civilised here, and who is decent? Here I am, ready to explain and conduct a communication and even prepared to apologise; on the other hand, Sri.Kunjuppu, levelling a list of charges against someone who actually wrote in support of him(!) and to make the matters worse, not willing to communicate...Are you going to stand by civility and decency?

I request Sri.Kunjuppu to comeback to discuss with me about the charges he levelled against me. Thanks.

Cheers!
 
Mr. Raghy, I don't want anyone to leave the forum, not you, not Shri Sangom, not Shri Kunjuppu. I strongly believe in thick skin theory. Only what we allow to hurt us can hurt us. In this respect, I welcome your stand to fight for what you think is your due. I certainly do not agree with Shri K's decision to resign, I have said so myself to him. But, the final decision is his. I am also asking Shri Sangom to not quit, and I am unable to make any progress. Under the current circumstances, an extended debate on the points you raise seems almost pointless. Yet, let me provide just a couple of clarifying comments. These are only to clarify, please do not expect a debate from me.


...Sri.Nara, I did not say Sri.Kunjuppu was not perfect; all I said was, Sri.Kunjuppu may not post perfect messages everytime, all the time. In post #874 I said Can you kindly show me the portion in that message that says Sri.Kunjuppu is imperfect, please?
This is a distinction without a difference. I too was only referring to K's post being not perfect all the time, not whether K as a person is perfect or not. The point at that time was the juxtaposition of appeasing an aggressor and expressing a tautology -- K's messages are not all perfect, seemed strange to me.


Sri.Nara ....... ..Are you going to stand by civility and decency?
Between K and RP, who was decent and civil is for each of us to decide. I believe I made the right choice. Between you and K, I only see thin skins. Different people react differently when faced with unpleasant situations. You wish to stand and fight. K wishes to go away and maintain his cool. I myself normally withdraw from nasty fights, but I wish to stay in the forum and not leave on my own accord. What is decent and civil in all these three stands, I will leave it to you.

Cheers!
 
Sri.Nara said -

The point at that time was the juxtaposition of appeasing an aggressor and expressing a tautolog....
Sir, Greetings. You should be ashamed to say this with a straight face. If I like to express my opinions, I just use plain English and openly say what I have in mind, quite respectfully. An example is post #909; there are plenty more messages that were addressed to you. Tautology.....I know you guys have to split the hair like this to invent fault from me. If I wish to make a comment about Sri.Kunjuppu as a person, I would have done just that. I don't need tautology for that.

I did not compare Sri.Kunjuppu and Sri.RP. Again if I wanted to, I would have done that quite plainly. I don't have to do that through Juxtaposition. When I was appealing against Sri.Hoover's restriction, I copped few comments from few members, including yourself. ( To jog your memory.பீலிபெய் சாகாடும்.......). A comment was made by Sri.Kunjuppu in this instance in #873
frankly, anyone could come here, write a few sentences of anger and in capitals, and we find a group rushing to their sympathy. for what? would we exhibit such behaviour in our own house if a stranger knocks on our door, and abuses a long standing neighbour? i think it is something that all members need to consider before jumping to conclusions. where is our sense? our sensibility?
As I have mentioned earlier, my message was in response to that. I had no intention of comparing Sri.Kunjuppu and Sri.RP.

Hypothetically speaking, let us consider a new member walks in here to cause trouble. Look at my reaction and compare that with Sri.Kunjuppu's reaction! Sri.Kunjuppu seems so eager to play it right into the hands of mischief monger! He has done in more than one occassion. In both those occassions, I was involved in calming the situation. Go figure it for yourself.

You wish to stand and fight. K wishes to go away and maintain his cool. I myself normally withdraw from nasty fights, but I wish to stay in the forum and not leave on my own accord. What is decent and civil in all these three stands, I will leave it to you.
Yes, I wish to stand and fight; but this fight is not started by me though. I am forced to fight to 'clear my name'!. Sri.Kunjuppu did not say he was going away to maintain his cool; he said 'bye bye' to everyone and left. There is a huge difference bewteen leaving for good and going away to maintain his cool. Again you are trying to invent so as to justify Sri.Kunjuppu's actions. Don't leave it to me decide who is civilised and decent; you should honestly think without any biased opinions and without any prejudices.

If you don't wish to debate, that's fine by me. But, I am forced by Sri.Kunjuppu to enter into this debate. Who knows, I may have to debate everyone who wishes to stand by Sri.Kunjuppu and he is/was the most popular member too!

Sri.Kunjuppu Sir, There were few occassions where you were quite cross with some of the members in this forum, because, in your opinion those members caused some of the valuable members to leave this forum. Now, look at you! You took off like a comet leaving without explanations, there by making a member like me to hold the chip on the shoulder for your departure. You are obliged to return to the forum to sort this out. Thanks.

Cheers!
 
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.....Sir, Greetings. You should be ashamed to say this with a straight face.
:) It has been a long while since anyone said this to me, you sound like my dad.

BTW, may I remind you what advice you gave RP?

Raghy, I read your last post. I have no further input in this conflict. K is not coming back, at least for now. He says he has not visited the site in two days. So, any call for justice from him will merely be shadow boxing.

All I can say to you is, you have made your point, and it is now time to take it easy and move on.

In all this, we have lost two valuable members, at least temporarily I hope, Shri Sangom, and K. For Shri Sangom leaving I guess I must bear responsibility. I have deprived this site of his valuable contributions, for that I am truly sorry -- this will weigh heavy in my heart.

Cheers!
 
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It seems to be there is a clash of philosophies here, one that of the old timers such as Shri Kunjuppu, Shri Sangom etc. who generally believe in a nuanced and a subtle way of communication. They would impact the people more by their substance than by their language, There is the other group who believe in blunt direct way of communication which is an "inspiration" from the west. When the two clash then something like what has happened is bound to happen. I think we will continue losing valuable members as long as this dichotomy exists. I think ihe only way this can be tackled is for the elders to rise above these ego things and set an exemplary model for the youth to follow
 
Dear Shri.Kunjuppu,
I beg to differ to you statement that brahmins " created circumstances for other castes to do indulge in physical persecution "--the reason for my objection stems from the fact that brahmins by and large were and have always been a isolated community. Their interaction with the society is less compared to other communities among themselves. That is mainly to their religious and conventional beliefs and practices. Nobody can force a particular community to share everything with every other community. Brahmins, as a community, have right to prefer their own way of life. That cannot be construed as a factor to incite persecution on oppressed communities by other dominant communities, BRAHMIN POPULATION IN MOST OF THE INDIAN STATES IS LESS THAN 5 % BY ANY ESTIMATE. Do you think a community which has such a small population without much financial power can influence other dominant communities (around 60 % population) to indulge in persecution of oppressed sections..? Brahmins, by and large, have always minded their businesses. DO YOU THINK THAT WAS A MISTAKE..? Then I can show other such communities which have not mingled with the rest of the society, not even as much as brahmins have, not being subjected to such ridiculous accusations. BRAHMINS WERE SIMPLY MADE SCAPEGOATS SINCE THEY ARE A VERY SILENT POLITE INDIFFERENT COMMUNITY. BRAHMINS HAVE BEEN MADE SCAPEGOATS SINCE THEY NEITHER HAVE MONEY NOR MUSLCE POWER. I dont see any other community having such WEAKNESSES. Other dominant communities exploited the oppressed communities either ways. They persecuted them, put the blame on the BRAHMINS, and now they are patting them on the back to go at the brahmins.

Your claim that we had a "oththipo" attitude towards others..we never had. I object again. what we had was "OTHTHIPORAEN" attitude.

Talking about the "oththipo" attitude practised by brahmins as claimed by you, why do you think they or other communities practised it..?? Kindly explain.

valid point indeed.
Dear Sri Meerkat Ji,
Given what is happening in this thread, what is your intention in bringing a old posting of Sr R.P. Ji here, with a brief agreement? Please explain yourself.

Regards,
KRS

I didn't read this post. After I heard about sangom sir's leaving I read his post where he said that I see nothing wrong with RP's post no. 834. so I read it and found nothing wrong. so I supported it.

Dear Meerkat Ji,

Just 'supporting' another's post without elaboration does not, in my opinion, add any value to the discussion. It merely takes up valuable storage space. In the future, please avoid such postings. Thanks.

Regards,
KRS
 
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In deference to the support to me and requests made by members including the Super Moderator Shri KRS, I feel I should not be adamant and have, therefore, decided to continue participating in the forum.

Thanking you once again for your kind and valuable support,

Sankar (Sangom)
 
hi
i feel some kind of ego clashes....we are all well educated and well experienced....but i feel personally some kind of genetical problems...

but nobody is ready to accept to my theory....many different flowers with different colors make a beautiful garland,,,, we are here

to debate....not for AMMAMSAMI.....staying /leaving a personal decision.......but we can learn many new things through this forum...

i always thank PRAVEEN for this......this is not a place for to show of age/greatness....srrry to say....

regards
tbs
 
Thank you Sangom Sir

I am a keen follower of Rig Veda thread of yours and I was blaming my Rasi for the sudden turn of events.
Now I can breathe easily.God is great.

We need the blessing, guidance and knowledge of Periyavars like you.

Namaskaram
Athreya
 
In deference to the support to me and requests made by members including the Super Moderator Shri KRS, I feel I should not be adamant and have, therefore, decided to continue participating in the forum.

Thanking you once again for your kind and valuable support,

Sankar (Sangom)

Sri Sangom ji,

I am very much glad to make a note of your gesture and having a relief that this forum has escaped the threat of losing you. I have the highest regard for you and have always considered your contributions as the ne plus ultra.

Thank you so much for your kind reconsideration to stay with us here and continue with your valuable inputs.
 
yes. sangomji is the most knowledgeble person in the forum. I'm happy that sir has taken his decision back.
 
In deference to the support to me and requests made by members including the Super Moderator Shri KRS, I feel I should not be adamant and have, therefore, decided to continue participating in the forum.

Thanking you once again for your kind and valuable support,

Sankar (Sangom)


Dear Sri Sankar (Sangom),

I am happy that you have taken a good decision. As Buddha told a "middle path" is always better. You have been contributing valuable inputs on many subjects in the forum . Please continue.

Warm Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.
 
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Sri Raghy,

You are one among the senior members here and I have a regard for you. I have enjoyed lots of our posts with your sense of humor.


Regarding the riffle going on hear, please don't assume that you are the cause for Sri Kunjuppu's resignation. We know (at least I myself) that, you took the initiative to settle the issues and did a fair play to pacify each member.Your efforts towards rapprochement unfortunately been stymied due misunderstanding and emotional disturbances of the members concerned.


I can understand that you just caught unawares between the cross fire and now having the sense of being left to hold the bag. Please ignore all these botheration and don't eat your heart out.


Hope you would come over any sort of hurt feelings and continue to play your roles with much verve and zest..
 
I'm so humbled that my post got deleted by the KRS the greatest Moderator of All times just because I spoke frankly.

Let the forum be moderated by more such God's of Emotional Turbulence Living in US.

I very well know where the Loyalty of lies.

This implies that no one can argue or speak of the shortcomings of any senior members. Setting a Great precedent in here.
Equality my foot.

What is this lie? You delete your own post and say that I deleted it? What type of game is this? We don't have room for such liers in the Forum. Bye.

Regards,
KRS
 
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Sri.Nara said -

Raghy, I read your last post. I have no further input in this conflict.

No Sri.Nara; you need not say anything more. I appreciate your responses to my messages; you could have ignored them. Your responses gave me the opportunity to voice my feelings and concerns. உடுக்கை இழந்தவன் கைப்போல் ஆங்கே இடுக்கண் களைந்தமைக்கு நன்றி.

K is not coming back, at least for now.

It does not matter anymore; I am not aiming to ask anything to Sri.Kunjuppu. As you say, now that I have emptied my chest, I can just move on.

BTW, may I remind you what advice you gave RP?

Initially I was not even going to debate, leave alone putting up a fight. One well wishing member , through Pm said it seemed I caused Sri.Kunjuppu's departure (although that member did not think so)....I realised my vulnerability. So, I needed to do what I did. I was very very careful in my messages. I assumed nothing. Still you are right, I should have followed my own advice; I thought I may not have the time for it. I did not want to debate with more and more members.

I thank you very much for your help in this crucial situation. I owe you one.

Cheers!
 
Sri.Ramanujan,

Greetings. You have no business to talk ill of a country. That too you are shouting about that. You have no right to swear either. If you don't like the way this forum runs, you do not have to take part in this forum, do you have to?

How can you talk ill of American people? They donate so much towards charity around the world. For example, Aids is endemic in India; the situation is under control largely due to American charity contributions. This only an example. You don't have to thank those people; how about refraining from talking il of those people, please? Thanks.

Cheers!
 
Chi.Ravi said -

Hope you would come over any sort of hurt feelings and continue to play your roles....


Greetings Ravi. I appriciate your timely comforting. I needed that. Thank you.

Cheers!
 
Sri. R.Parthasarathy Sir,

Greetings. Where are you? How come you are not posting any message here? Did you come to this forum with a negative intent as Sri.Kunjuppu suspects? If I were you, I would have posted many messages, just to show I am for real. I am looking forward to hear from you.

Cheers!
 
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