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Jayalalithaa convicted, found guilty! Sentencing at 3 p.m. today

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I have to agree with Mr. Sarang here, for India and Hinduism, it is not a religion of laws. It is a philosophy and belief system. Without that belief system millions of deprived, downtrodden, unfortunate people may not have a good explanation for the travails of life. That's why most Indian movies in all languages show that good wins out in the end.

Of course in real life JJ may escape on appeal. Let's wait and see.
When religion is misused to take millions of the deprived, downtrodden for a ride thru misquoting scriptures by the so called higher castes , my blood boils

brahmin or a higher caste winning would be projected as good winning .

that the existing order is slowly facing a challenge by those considered lower in caste heirarchy is unacceptable to many

time to change and accept it .

the voices of change will be heard and they will overcome the odds and get a better life.
 
I think change is already happening. The lower castes or lower social strata cannot be taken for granted any more.
 
When religion is misused to take millions of the deprived, downtrodden for a ride thru misquoting scriptures by the so called higher castes , my blood boils

brahmin or a higher caste winning would be projected as good winning .

that the existing order is slowly facing a challenge by those considered lower in caste heirarchy is unacceptable to many

time to change and accept it .

the voices of change will be heard and they will overcome the odds and get a better life.
Yes. Long live the revolution. Down with Brahmins. Tamil vaalka.
Come on where is the soda. Please fill up the glass. My blood has to be brought down to simmer. LOL
 
Court says "Heady mix of power and wealth is the bottom line"

Bangalore: "Heady mix of power and wealth is the bottom line of this case," the Special Court that gave a watershed verdict sentencing AIADMK supremo Jayalalithaa and three others to four years in jail in the disproportionate assets case has said.

"Huge accumulation of wealth in a short span of five years (1991-96) is a telling example of how power would lead to a concentration of unlawful wealth posing veritable danger to democratic structure," Judge John Michael D'Cunha said in his 1136 page order.

In the verdict delivered on Saturday last that unseated Jayalalithaa from Chief Ministership, making it the first case of conviction of the person holding that post, the judge has also slapped a staggering fine of Rs 100 crore on her and Rs 10 crore on three other accused.

It was proved in evidence that, at the time of commencement of the check period (1991-96), Jayalalithaa was in possession of total assets worth Rs 2,01,83,965.53 including the assets of the partnership of Jaya Publications and Sasi Enterprises, the judge said.

But, it noted, by the end of April 30,1996, her total wealth had risen to Rs 53,60,49,954.00 against her legitimate income of Rs 9,91,05,094. "This value is not the present market value of the assets".

Read more: Court says "Heady mix of power and wealth is the bottom line" | News Today
 
When religion is misused to take millions of the deprived, downtrodden for a ride thru misquoting scriptures by the so called higher castes , my blood boils

Instead of being so blunt, I will appreciate if you come out with few specific instances to prove your version. Will you…???
 
everybody has to wait forever for justice in india


Not everybody.

There are cases that were disposed of within a short period of time.


Conducting trial and disposal of a case depends also on the co-operation of both the Parties involved.


Who is responsible for the delay in the verdict of this particular case??


Is it the judiciary?? Have you any point/material/evidence, etc to prove this?
 
Yes. Long live the revolution. Down with Brahmins. Tamil vaalka.
Come on where is the soda. Please fill up the glass. My blood has to be brought down to simmer. LOL
Vaagmiji
Best joke of the day. Thaaliyan.[ claps in hindi].

I did not suspect you had a such a good sense of humour.lol
 

Not everybody.

There are cases that were disposed of within a short period of time.


Conducting trial and disposal of a case depends also on the co-operation of both the Parties involved.


Who is responsible for the delay in the verdict of this particular case??


Is it the judiciary?? Have you any point/material/evidence, etc to prove this?
An influential politician has to wait for more than a week for a simple bail application to be heard.

it is postponed one day as prosecutor is not appointed.

next day vacation judge passes it on to regular judge delaying by another four ,five days.

court takes a vacation for a week due to dussehra.

so a state suffers with bandhs and disruptions.

should a person cooperate by staying in jail for a week.

anyway what remedy does he have.?
 
An influential politician has to wait for more than a week for a simple bail application to be heard.

Is it a simple bail application? A CM is convicted, for the first time in India, and it has to undergo lot of arguments and counter arguments. We cannot expect bail on the same day. Do you expect influential persons should be given bail on the same day, without proper hearings? Was bail given to Acharyas on the same day by Chennai High Court? They went to Supreme Court.

so a state suffers with bandhs and disruptions.

Immediately, an interim CM was appointed. What is he doing?

should a person cooperate by staying in jail for a week.

anyway what remedy does he have.?

Non-cooperation will lead to further troubles.



You are making mockery of Indian legal system.
 
An influential politician has to wait for more than a week for a simple bail application to be heard.

You are in Delhi. You can easily liaise with the M.Ps to bring an amendment to the Constitution of India that will ensure that Judiciary is also brought under Essential Service Act like that of Hospital, Police, Transport, etc.

Then, no one needs to wait. Very simple .lol

 
Arm chair marxists believe in violent revolution to change social order; or any order for that matter. Wrong faith blinds and boils the blood for wrong reasons.

Instead of being so blunt, I will appreciate if you come out with few specific instances to prove your version. Will you…???
 
Law is taking its course. Both DMK and AIADMK have let down TN very badly. While the first is cunning the second is arrogant. But see who has given verdict? The severity of punishment tells 'sevarality' of considerations. Cauvery water dispute and her success in the process. In the universe of corruption she is only a speck. There are ranges of mountains of corruption sitting smugly all around. Then why TN only. I find it difficult to believe that all other states are ruled by the god of Dharma. I neither think you become a full Indian by riling the TN leaders. There is a bigger game at work. The sooner the TN people realize this the better it will be for TN. The situation demands a new thought process in the minds of electorates and the people bereft of that cunning pan-Indian schemes. TN has done enough to India and it is time that it looked into herself.
 
Iyyooranji

Do you not know India is ruled by Dharma,?

On vijayadasami day in Delhi,subash maidan our Pres., VP, PM , EX pm, sonia all sharing a stage for ramlila celebrations promoted the cause of Dharma and witnessed the

victory of dharma over evil with demons Ravana, kumbarna, megnad going up in flames.lol
 
Yeah. This happens every year. Only the effigies are burnt! Now it is time for 'swaccha Bharat'. I think some 25 years before I had seen photo of the dream girl Hema Malini sweeping the street clean. I am afraid she had not completed the job so the PM is picking up where she had left. He might become dream Modi or clean Modi! One thing is clear: This country has always "sankatam" in identifying the Dharma. For instance JJ of TN was punished in Karnataka. Who cares about Yeddyurappa of Karnataka? Dharma is an orphan and somebody has to adopt it!
 
For instance JJ of TN was punished in Karnataka. Who cares about Yeddyurappa of Karnataka? Dharma is an orphan and somebody has to adopt it!

JJ was punished by the legal system, but pardoned by the public and re-re elected. Yedi was cleared by the legal system, but brought his down fall by forming a separate party.

Karuna is clever and there is no case against him to face jail. He won by clever alliance politics of convenience. Jaya is strong on her own.
 


JJ was punished by the legal system, but pardoned by the public and re-re elected. Yedi was cleared by the legal system, but brought his down fall by forming a separate party.

Karuna is clever and there is no case against him to face jail. He won by clever alliance politics of convenience. Jaya is strong on her own.



Sir,

I like this.
 
A news channel reported that there will be a meeting at 10 am on 8.10.2014 of DMK party at arivalayam. Anything special and any guess ?

It is a meeting of the District secretaries of te party...The DMK is trying to up the ante by saying that there is a total collapse of law and order..May be asking for Presidents rule...The crafty fox party's days were over till this conviction ..Now it is trying to resurrect itself from the ashes
 
There is a saying: for every action there is equal and opposite reaction.

At the time of Acharyas' trial, TN govt. was against bail, saying they were very influential and may flee the country.

Today, JJ's bail is being taken up. Prosecution argues that JJ, being an influential persoan, should not be granted bail, as she may flee the country.
 
There is a saying: for every action there is equal and opposite reaction.

At the time of Acharyas' trial, TN govt. was against bail, saying they were very influential and may flee the country.

Today, JJ's bail is being taken up. Prosecution argues that JJ, being an influential persoan, should not be granted bail, as she may flee the country.

There is no comparison between the 2 cases..It does not bring glory to either by this odious comparison!
 
Standard arguments - influence witnesses, may flee the country, powerful, rich, connection in high places etc. But Shankaracharya was detained for 90 days before bail was granted. If the prosecution or police say they have no objection, then bail is granted without fuss.

There is no comparison between the 2 cases..It does not bring glory to either by this odious comparison!
 
There is no comparison between the 2 cases..It does not bring glory to either by this odious comparison!


One of the reasons used by JJ Govt. to detain the Acharyas for a longer time turned out to be the same reason for Karnataka Prosecution to extend the detention of JJ - popularity, fleeing the country etc.

Politician can gain sympathy if he/she visited jail, which is not so in the case of religious head.

The only comparison is the Acharya, who has been sporting Vibhudhi but devoting more time to vaishnavism, was indeed booked by a vaishnavite. LOL
 
And for the murder of saivite in a vaishnava temple premises. See how saivam and vaishnavam are interrelated and connected.


The only comparison is the Acharya, who has been sporting Vibhudhi but devoting more time to vaishnavism, was indeed booked by a vaishnavite. LOL
 
There is a saying: for every action there is equal and opposite reaction.

At the time of Acharyas' trial, TN govt. was against bail, saying they were very influential and may flee the country.

Today, JJ's bail is being taken up. Prosecution argues that JJ, being an influential persoan, should not be granted bail, as she may flee the country.

Chandru Sir,

Do you mean to say,

1. had jj granted bail to acharya, as per law of karma, she also in turn would have been granted bail by karnataka hc?

2. had jj not convicted acharya, jj also would not have been convicted but acquitted, would have been deemed, declared, pronounced as not possessing assets disproportionate to income, would become innocent and not guilty of crime?

honestly sir, this ignorant soul that i am, am not able to understand the operations of karma. i have begun to doubt if there is anything called karma theory existing!!! i am no intellectual sir. please forgive me for my ignorance. but please enlighten me sir.
 
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Chandru Sir,

Do you mean to say,

honestly sir, this ignorant soul that i am, am not able to understand the operations of karma. i have begun to doubt if there is anything called karma theory existing!!! i am no intellectual sir. please forgive me for my ignorance. but please enlighten me sir.

If one does an action there is a result. The results may come today or sometime in future. It is only binding to the jiva, a jivenmukta can perform any action and may not get attached to the results.

The Karma theory is not a judgement system. The judgement system punishes one (if caught and convicted) for misdeeds against the constitution. There is no correlation between the two.
Not by nonperformance of actions does a man attain freedom from action; nor by the renunciation of actions does he attain his spiritual goal.
For no one, indeed, can remain, for even a single moment, unengaged in activity, since everyone, being powerless, is made to act by the dispositions (gunas) of matter (prakiti).
Whoever having restrained his organs of action still continues to brood over the objects of senses — he, the deluded one, is called a hypocrite.
But he who, having controlled the sense-organs by means of the mind, O Arjuna, follows without attachment the path of action by means of the organs of action — he excels.
Do you do your allotted work, for action is superior to nonaction. Even the normal functioning of your body cannot be accomplished through actionlessness.
Except for the action done for sacrifice, all men are under the bondage of action. Therefore, O son on Kunti, do you undertake that action for that purpose, becoming free from all attachment.
— III.4–9, Bhagavad Gita
Karma first came into being as a concept in Hinduism, largely based on the Vedas and Upanishads. One of the first and most dramatic illustrations of Karma can be found in the great Hindu epic, the Mahabharata. The original Hindu concept of karma was later enhanced by several other movements within the religion, most notably Vedanta, Yoga, and Tantra.


Hinduism sees karma as immutable law with involuntary and voluntary acts being part of a more intricate system of cause and effect that is often not comprehensible to one bound by karma. It is the goal of the Hindu, as expressed succinctly in the Bhagavad Gita, to embrace a 'sattvic' lifestyle and thus avoid creating more karma (karma is not qualified as good or bad). By ceasing to create more karma, the jiva-atma or individual soul is able to move closer to moksha, or liberation.


To the Hindu, karma is the law of the phenomenal cosmos that is part and parcel of living within the dimensions of time and space. All actions, thoughts, vibrations of any sort, are governed by a law that demands perfect rebound. So all jiva-atmas (individual souls) must experience karma if they live and experience the phenomenal universe. To escape the cycle of life, death and rebirth, one must exhaust one's karma and realize one's true Self as the highest truth of Oneness that is Brahman (or for dvaitists (dualists) bliss with the Supreme Godhead).
 
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