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like TO BE OR NOT TO BE...LIKE MACBETH STORY OF SHAKESPEARE............without single majority...no party will or can survive....

this is called demo crazy...............then the govt will become crazy....

 

[sadasivam.sridharan]

AAP seems to be a bunch of idealists without commitment. Any one can criticize the work of others, but when it come to taking responsibility, their true colour will get exposed. The over all anger against Congress got the votes for AAP. Now they do not know how to use it. Most unfortunate.

It is Chanakya's strategy adopted by Congress to expose the newborn AAP by extending support to form government

 

[sravna]

The idealism of AAP will not work. The trick is to be pragmatic and yet not compromise on values. For this you need to have a long term strategy of how you can do this. If AAP follow their present approach they are bound to go into oblivion sooner or later.

 

[sadasivam.sridharan]

The idealism of AAP will not work. The trick is to be pragmatic and yet not compromise on values. For this you need to have a long term strategy of how you can do this. If AAP follow their present approach they are bound to go into oblivion sooner or later.

It is quite true.

 

[sarang]

AAP will accept the support given by congress if the corrupt congress gives an assurance that it will pass the janlokpal bill in parliament.

Congress gives the assurance and aap forms the govt in delhi.

The upa led by congress does not pass the bill; there are hundred ways to escape.

After a month or so aap rejects congress support and decides to resign. Congress says it still supports. A constitutional crisis. Similar to chandrasekar - rajiv gandhi alliance.

What a heady situation; a strange paradox.

Will AAP take support of Congress and form the Government, this is the million dollar question today..In case it takes support, APP has to dance to the tunes of Congress which they had opposed tooth and nail...If they do not then it means that AAP is shirking from responsibility..A hobson's choice indeed..Take it or leave it!!

 

[sarang]

Kejriwal needs ten days to decide. He has written to sonia and rajnath singh.

To sonia: Congress party has given unconditional support; but we did not ask for support. aap is born because of corruption and anti people polices followed by bjp and congress. How can we work with bjp or congress? Enclosed is a list of issues and demands. What is your specific response to each demand? A general answer, I agree, we are together ityadi will not do.

To rajnath: nitin gadkari and vijay goel have said that bjp will give support if asked. Even before, some from bjp contacted with support offer. We never asked for support. Enclosed ....... One set of leaders offer support and another set says no support. This ambivalence shows your party in poor light. (shobha nahin deta)

No golmal for both.

Reply as 'agree in principle' not acceptable for congress.

Reply as 'agree in principle, will decide when the issue is taken up in assembly' not acceptable for bjp

 

[auh]

...without single majority...no party will or can survive....

this is called demo crazy...............then the govt will become crazy....

Very true...

 

[sarang]

Kejriwal's demands in a nutshell: So easy to comply by the congress. Per capita spending in delhi is the highest in the country, about 20 times. So we can expect congress supported aap govt in delhi soon.

1. No red beacon, no bungalow for politicians, officials; will live like aam aadimi. Development funds to be directly given to the mohallas. Fund for ministers and mlas to be stopped.
2. Janlokpal bill of aap must be passed.
3. Swarajya bill must be passed and power must be transferred to local mohallas.
4. DDA and police must be under state control
5. Special audit for electricity companies.
6. Survey on hot electric meters (which run fast) to estimate extra money collected by the companies. Refund extra collected and change the meters.
7. Each household must get 700 litres of free water; extra consumption payable.
8. Unauthorised (30%) colonies must be regularised and facilities to be provided within one year.
9. Proper houses and basic infrastructure must be provided to slum dwellers; slums must not be demolished.
10. All temporary and contract postings must be made permanent.
11. Simplified rules for traders.
12. No foreign direct investment in retail.
13. Subsidy to delhi farmers and facilities like school, hospital, bus, stadium etc to all villages in delhi area.
14. Opening of 500 govt. schools, abolition of donation and fixing of fees in private schools.
15. Opening up new government hospitals.
16. Special cells and courts for women's safety.
17. More courts to settle cases withing 6 to 12 months.
18. The parties must ensure that the central govt will give all help demanded by aap.

 

[krish44]

Kejriwal's demands in a nutshell: So easy to comply by the congress. Per capita spending in delhi is the highest in the country, about 20 times. So we can expect congress supported aap govt in delhi soon.

1. No red beacon, no bungalow for politicians, officials; will live like aam aadimi. Development funds to be directly given to the mohallas. Fund for ministers and mlas to be stopped.
2. Janlokpal bill of aap must be passed.
3. Swarajya bill must be passed and power must be transferred to local mohallas.
4. DDA and police must be under state control
5. Special audit for electricity companies.
6. Survey on hot electric meters (which run fast) to estimate extra money collected by the companies. Refund extra collected and change the meters.
7. Each household must get 700 litres of free water; extra consumption payable.
8. Unauthorised (30%) colonies must be regularised and facilities to be provided within one year.
9. Proper houses and basic infrastructure must be provided to slum dwellers; slums must not be demolished.
10. All temporary and contract postings must be made permanent.
11. Simplified rules for traders.
12. No foreign direct investment in retail.
13. Subsidy to delhi farmers and facilities like school, hospital, bus, stadium etc to all villages in delhi area.
14. Opening of 500 govt. schools, abolition of donation and fixing of fees in private schools.
15. Opening up new government hospitals.
16. Special cells and courts for women's safety.
17. More courts to settle cases withing 6 to 12 months.
18. The parties must ensure that the central govt will give all help demanded by aap.

many points will not get a proper reply and will be wishy-washy
DDA and police undr police control item 4 and 5. shiela dixit had been wanting it centre woud not agree
special audit of elec co. . congress would like to shield discom and its own members in elec. scams
fdi in retail12 may not be accepted
500 govt schools unrealistic
free water and taking on the tanker mafia congressmen are deeply invoved
AAP has kicked the ball into congress court
will not be easily enticed to form a govt. would lik to face lok sabha elections with a clean slate with no record of governance

 

[sarang]

aap is a joker party. The cream is, it will go to the public (how?) with congress and bjp replies and seek (demand) their view and approval. bjp should keep quiet and not reply. If congress agrees to vacate the bungalows and bjp does not, aap will resign, I think.

 

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Kejriwal's demands in a nutshell: So easy to comply by the congress. Per capita spending in delhi is the highest in the country, about 20 times. So we can expect congress supported aap govt in delhi soon.

1. No red beacon, no bungalow for politicians, officials; will live like aam aadimi. Development funds to be directly given to the mohallas. Fund for ministers and mlas to be stopped.
2. Janlokpal bill of aap must be passed.
3. Swarajya bill must be passed and power must be transferred to local mohallas.
4. DDA and police must be under state control
5. Special audit for electricity companies.
6. Survey on hot electric meters (which run fast) to estimate extra money collected by the companies. Refund extra collected and change the meters.
7. Each household must get 700 litres of free water; extra consumption payable.
8. Unauthorised (30%) colonies must be regularised and facilities to be provided within one year.
9. Proper houses and basic infrastructure must be provided to slum dwellers; slums must not be demolished.
10. All temporary and contract postings must be made permanent.
11. Simplified rules for traders.
12. No foreign direct investment in retail.
13. Subsidy to delhi farmers and facilities like school, hospital, bus, stadium etc to all villages in delhi area.
14. Opening of 500 govt. schools, abolition of donation and fixing of fees in private schools.
15. Opening up new government hospitals.
16. Special cells and courts for women's safety.
17. More courts to settle cases withing 6 to 12 months.
18. The parties must ensure that the central govt will give all help demanded by aap.

hi
if these demands are.....how the party/mla will survive....the main theory of any party.....SPEND MONEY ON ELECTIONS.....

EARN DOUBLE MONEY DURING FIVE YRS.....SAVE FOR NEXT ELECTION......ELECTION IS AN INVESTMENT.......DURING MLA/

MINISTER EARN DOUBLE MONEY AS REWARDS FOR INVESTMENT....MLA /MINSTER POST NOT FOR FREE SERVICE TO COMMON

MAN.....this is our demo crazy...

 

[Brahmanyan]

The demands show the inexperience of AAP in running a State Government. They have mixed Central and State matters in their demands. Also some of them are just Administrative functions. I wonder why they have not included abolition of pension for MLAs, which is more relevant. AAP should understand that the limited mandate that they got from the public is for ruling Delhi, that too in an anger against the misrule by Congress. No wonder Congress is ready to give unconditional support to AAP !

 

[krish44]

Kejriwal's demands in a nutshell: So easy to comply by the congress. Per capita spending in delhi is the highest in the country, about 20 times. So we can expect congress supported aap govt in delhi soon.

1. No red beacon, no bungalow for politicians, officials; will live like aam aadimi. Development funds to be directly given to the mohallas. Fund for ministers and mlas to be stopped.
2. Janlokpal bill of aap must be passed.
3. Swarajya bill must be passed and power must be transferred to local mohallas.
4. DDA and police must be under state control
5. Special audit for electricity companies.
6. Survey on hot electric meters (which run fast) to estimate extra money collected by the companies. Refund extra collected and change the meters.
7. Each household must get 700 litres of free water; extra consumption payable.
8. Unauthorised (30%) colonies must be regularised and facilities to be provided within one year.
9. Proper houses and basic infrastructure must be provided to slum dwellers; slums must not be demolished.
10. All temporary and contract postings must be made permanent.
11. Simplified rules for traders.
12. No foreign direct investment in retail.
13. Subsidy to delhi farmers and facilities like school, hospital, bus, stadium etc to all villages in delhi area.
14. Opening of 500 govt. schools, abolition of donation and fixing of fees in private schools.
15. Opening up new government hospitals.
16. Special cells and courts for women's safety.
17. More courts to settle cases withing 6 to 12 months.
18. The parties must ensure that the central govt will give all help demanded by aap.

kejriwal can add one more demand. there are stray dogs and monkey menace in residential colonies. BJP and congress should support in eradicating this menace. menaka gandhi and other animal right activists also should be associated in this activity. sonia gandhi should give a written undertaking about participation of maneka gandhi.

 

[vgane]

AK thinks that support from the people is perennial...The public enthusiasm for the fledgling party may soon turn to disgust leading to anger! AAP should watch out!

 

[sarang]

kejriwal gives meaning to this statement.

நீ அவல் கொண்டு வா, நான் உமி கொண்டு வரேன். இரண்டு பேரும் ஊதி ஊதி சாப்பிடலாம்.

 

[krish44]

The demands show the inexperience of AAP in running a State Government. They have mixed Central and State matters in their demands. Also some of them are just Administrative functions. I wonder why they have not included abolition of pension for MLAs, which is more relevant. AAP should understand that the limited mandate that they got from the public is for ruling Delhi, that too in an anger against the misrule by Congress. No wonder Congress is ready to give unconditional support to AAP !

I like your analysis and incisive comments. delhi state is nothing better than a glorified municipality . agencies such as DDA,police are with the central govt. AAP may not do much damage to general public by forming and running a govt. however they will do a lot more damage to BJP and congress all over the country by staying out and fighting loksabha elections. If they win 30 to fifty seats think of their nuisance value in loksabha. we are in for interesting times. see the haste in passing lokpal in parliament by congress and bjp supporting it .

 

[sangom]

AAP has a very short lifetime, going by its antiques. People may soon start doubting whether this AAP was a handiwork of Congress/BJP to help them in Parliamentary elections. Like the Bhasmasura story, the broom may sweep clean the AAP first!

 

[vgane]

AAP had scripted a phenomenal history within one year of inception!

Looks like they are burning the good bridges too fast to be consigned to flames in a jiffy

 

[Brahmanyan]

I like your analysis and incisive comments. delhi state is nothing better than a glorified municipality . agencies such as DDA,police are with the central govt. AAP may not do much damage to general public by forming and running a govt. however they will do a lot more damage to BJP and congress all over the country by staying out and fighting loksabha elections. If they win 30 to fifty seats think of their nuisance value in loksabha. we are in for interesting times. see the haste in passing lokpal in parliament by congress and bjp supporting it .

While I agree with your comments in general, I doubt whether AAP will be able to penetrate the sectarian walls of caste, community and money that cover our electorate in urban and rural areas out side Delhi. In Bangalore another white collar outfit, Loksatta party tried their luck in the last State Elections, but all their candidates failed to recover their deposits . At the most AAP in Loksabha Elections (2014) may get one or two seats in Delhi and Haryana, and put the blame on other parties wielding "money power" and "vote bank" politics for their failure.
Passing Lokpal or Lokayukta Bills are of no use, unless there is will-power to catch and punish the culprits. Even otherwise we have enough Laws to catch the corrupt people, but highly ineffective in implementation. These will only help to add some media debates.

 

[sarang]

You are right. This is what subramanyan swamy is saying in all the tv debates and in his articles. He says the existing laws are sufficient to punish the guilty. What is needed is implementation and speed.

Passing Lokpal or Lokayukta Bills are of no use, unless there is will-power to catch and punish the culprits. Even otherwise we have enough Laws to catch the corrupt people, but highly ineffective in implementation. These will only help to add some media debates.

 

[krish44]

AAP has a very short lifetime, going by its antiques. People may soon start doubting whether this AAP was a handiwork of Congress/BJP to help them in Parliamentary elections. Like the Bhasmasura story, the broom may sweep clean the AAP first!

Basmasura story for AAP is an exaggeration . I would like them to stay long and damage the credibility of national parties. their destructive potential is still high.See how they have been able to reduce the bargaining power of anna hazare and make him accept a diluted lokpal offered by political parties.

 

[krish44]

While I agree with your comments in general, I doubt whether AAP will be able to penetrate the sectarian walls of caste, community and money that cover our electorate in urban and rural areas out side Delhi. In Bangalore another white collar outfit, Loksatta party tried their luck in the last State Elections, but all their candidates failed to recover their deposits . At the most AAP in Loksabha Elections (2014) may get one or two seats in Delhi and Haryana, and put the blame on other parties wielding "money power" and "vote bank" politics for their failure.
Passing Lokpal or Lokayukta Bills are of no use, unless there is will-power to catch and punish the culprits. Even otherwise we have enough Laws to catch the corrupt people, but highly ineffective in implementation. These will only help to add some media debates.

Anna Hazare has seen the recent poor response to his fast . in order not to be displaced by AAP ,he with his rural wisdom decided to cut losses and take what was offered by political parties for his own survival literally. AAP feels double crossed by their mentor.The lokpal may not do much corruption survives and grows because middle and rich classes patronise politicians. unless the bribe giver is brought to book it will continue.
IMO AAP will a win a lot more in NCR Haryana UP Rajasthan districts near delhi this can be more than 20 -25 seats . In south of course their chances are bleak I have some hope for AAP in bangalore,mysore,mangalore ...hubli etc . IN AP they are in midst of separation battle TN And kerala will be a wash out for AAP

 

[sarang]

What are the issues or clauses not agreeable to aap. There is no consolidated list. All including aap are talking in generalities.

Basmasura story for AAP is an exaggeration . I would like them to stay long and damage the credibility of national parties. their destructive potential is still high.See how they have been able to reduce the bargaining power of anna hazare and make him accept a diluted lokpal offered by political parties.

 

[vgane]

With AAP taking a public referendum (First of its kind in India) whether to ally with Congress, Delhi is heading towards Presidents Rule

A nice cartoon about AAP:

 

[krish44]

With AAP taking a public referendum (First of its kind in India) whether to ally with Congress, Delhi is heading towards Presidents Rule

A nice cartoon about AAP:

nice. now that anna hazare show is over with undercutting of kejriwal ,kejriwal wil put up a show of going to the people and get into the drivers seat in delhi. good for delhi