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The gothram of a child

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before marriage....pregnancy is side affect ....due to passion/without contraception....after marriage...pregnancy is BYPRODUCT...

Yes..In marriage it's a BYPRODUCT of constant readily available hassle free acts and actions of passion.

Before marriage supply might not be constant!

So for every Action there is a Reaction.

Pregnancy is the Reaction to the Action of Passion..sounds like Karma right?LOL
 
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Yes..In marriage it's a BYPRODUCT of constant readily available hassle free acts and actions of passion.

Before marriage supply might not be constant!

So for every Action there is a Reaction.

Pregnancy is Reaction to the Action of Passion..sounds like Karma right?LOL
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sound like newton's third law in physics....EACH AND EVERY ACTION HAS OPPOSITE AND EQUAL REACTION WILL BE THERE...
 
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sound like newton's third law in physics....EACH AND EVERY ACTION HAS OPPOSITE AND EQUAL REACTION WILL BE THERE...

Very true...you are getting the hang of what I am trying to say.
 
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........... I am that Brick person there! The fantastic Jalra 4!
This is so :cool: Renu! But is he not a stone man??

From Wikipedia:

... the monstrous
Thing (Ben Grimm), their grumpy but benevolent friend, a former college football star and Reed's college roommate

as well as a good pilot, who possesses superhuman strength and endurance due to the nature of his stone-like flesh.
 
This is so :cool: Renu! But is he not a stone man??

From Wikipedia:

... the monstrous
Thing (Ben Grimm), their grumpy but benevolent friend, a former college football star and Reed's college roommate

as well as a good pilot, who possesses superhuman strength and endurance due to the nature of his stone-like flesh.

Dear RR ji,

I know he is called "The Thing"..I like his characteristics!LOL
 
You do not debate beliefs - and it is okay with me. You do not debate scientific facts too because they are not useful to you-and this too is okay with me. Well, it is your choice after all and I can do nothing about it.
very funny ... :)
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Thanks Renu for the Invisible Woman position :)....kinda suits me to a T...i'm hardly around. I don't mind being the Thing as well or the Human Torch :D.

Dear Amala,

You be the Invisible Woman cos when she is visible she makes her presence felt.

The Human Torch is Invisible woman's brother..so let that go to Prasad Ji and not to Brahin cos
Brahin should NOT be your brother!LOL

Let Brahin be Mister Fantastic of the Fantastic Four!
 
........ The distant look in their eyes seems to indicate a wait for a familiar face. The wrinkled faces lost in thought have numerous stories to narrate. But there are not many to listen. .....
This is what Sri Jagat Guru Sankaracharya teaches in 'Bhaja Govindam':

yaavad vitto paar jana saktah
... as long as one is earning and is healthy.....

staavan nija parivaaro raktah
... he will be supported the family.....

Pashcha ajjiivati jarjara dehe
... but later when one is without earnings and old in the body .....

vaartaam koapi na prichchhati gehe
... there may be none to even enquire in the house.....

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artham anartham bhaavaya nityam
... Remember that wealth seeking is always purposeless.....

naastitatah sukha leshah satyam
... the truth is that one cannot derive sustained happiness from it.....

putraadapi dhana bhaajaam bhiitih
... ones who are after money even fear their sons.....

sarvatra ishhaa vihiaa riitih
... that is the way of wealth always.....

English Translation by Sri. Ramesh Krishnakumar.


P.S: The picture of the old man at 2.50 mts in the following video disturbs me a lot!! :tsk:

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My guru says that before I get married I will have to be taken through all of the samskaras. You guys will have to wait a while but I'll let you know what gotthram is settled on once it happens! :-D
 
In many schools of meditation (TM for example), the bija mantra given by the guru for meditation is selected by the guru from what the disciple brings as offering - type of flower, fruit etc. The guru may have a similar technique for selecting the gotra best suited for the aspirant.

My guru says that before I get married I will have to be taken through all of the samskaras. You guys will have to wait a while but I'll let you know what gotthram is settled on once it happens! :-D
 
Dear Sri. Raju, Greetings.

I have not been very active for the past few days. Sorry for the delay in addressing your post. I notice, a lot of discussion have taken place in this thread hence. I refer to your message in post #42, please.

With the same assumptions, the way the mother manipulated everything-a helpless anglo-saxon sperm, artificial insemination, rahu kalam for upanayanam, an upanayanam conducted by “Iyengars” with sudarshana homam to boot, with many invitees etc., just to prove a point to some one, deserves a critical assessment.
I said I was assuming something and also said I could be wrong in my initial message. Your assumptions are as good as mine. I don't see any debate in that.

People here are not judgmental about the mother. It was not an ordinary upanayanam of an ordinary child. Because of and only because of the mother’s background the child became a special child and its upanayanam also became a special one. Here the mother, her actions and the child are inseparable.
Sorry sir, I noticed couple of messages judgemental towards mother's morality or the lack of it. I am not interested in getting into a debate; so, I am not pointing them out. All children are only ordinary children once they are born. What is the difference? Personally I don't see any difference. How that child was conceived by her mother is not the child to decide. Irrrespective of the way that child was conceived, it grew up just like any other child in a woman's womb. Kindly allow me to diifer with you on this, please.

When I said
Can our community widen their thinking further? Can our community become more acceptive? Can our community accept there can be persons who are not quite traditionalists? Personally I said 'yes' to every question. this is despite the fact, most persons would not even consider me as a Tamil Brahmin person.
, your reply was
More acceptive of what? Acceptive of relentless attacks to wipe out? Acceptive of the persistent demand to forget glorious traditions and culture and take inferior and harmful “glittering cellophane packed” modern values? You may not ‘know’ the tradition and so you may not be a traditionalist. But that does not give you the freedom to call traditionalists stupid. The so called traditionalists are ready to wait indefinitely until you understand traditions and take a view.
Sir, I am not going to address the things I did not say. I did not call traditionlists by any name. In fact, I did not even talk about them. I am only advocating for 'non-traditionalists'. I don't see the reason for such an outburst from you; I know I respects everyone's right to live the way they like to.

When I said 'more acceptive', all I meant to say was more acceptive towards children who are born from different circumstances than the usual. Also, more acceptive towards non-traditionalists. That's all.

When I said
If we believe in God, God is common for everyone. God would not isolate one particular caste or creed for blessing.
, your reply was
Which caste is claiming such a privilege?
Sir, I did not say any particular caste was claiming any privilege. My message quoted by yourself is produced here again for your perusal. So, I don't think I am required to answer your question, please.

Sri. Raju, personally I think, there is no need for passing judgement about anyone at anytime. But more often than not, I notice persons are just judgemental. It is not only this case, but in general. i notice that in this little forum too;judgement is passed on flimsy grounds or on no grounds and following that, one would be treated with prejudice.

While I have respect for traditionalists, I also have respect for non-traditionalists too. If you think about it, not only amoung Tamil Brahmins, but also in most communities across the wide spectrum, non-traditionalists may more often than not out number the traditionalists.

Cheers!
 
Mr. Raghy sir,
There are differences among the traditionalist. The traditionalist just like non-traditionalist will change their position when it comes to their close family and friends.
A relative of mine who always was judgmental of others, he would not miss an opportunity to criticize others for deviating from "traditions" had to accept an Intercast marriage of his daughter. Then he was all for ICM, now he is ultra liberal. LOL
 
Mr. Raghy sir,
There are differences among the traditionalist. The traditionalist just like non-traditionalist will change their position when it comes to their close family and friends.
A relative of mine who always was judgmental of others, he would not miss an opportunity to criticize others for deviating from "traditions" had to accept an Intercast marriage of his daughter. Then he was all for ICM, now he is ultra liberal. LOL

Sri.Prasad, Greetings.

With due respect to your message, I was mentioning about ultra traditionalists. They don't mean any harm to others, often times not judgemental about others either but staunch followers of tradition since they believe it. I can straight away think of an example - There is an Iyengar who is a 'Batachari' for Hanuman temple. Very much traditionalist; His daughters married IR. ( But those circumstances were quite sad. Both daughters were physically handicapped). Anyway, still he is a traditionalist, as nice to others as can be and respected by all communities in that area. I meant such traditionalists. I have a friend who is a traditionalist too ( Thenkalai Iyengar); it is always a treat to even to talk to him. I never miss a conversation with him when I go to India... still he is just one phone call away anyway!

Cheers!
 
Mr. Raghy sir,
There are differences among the traditionalist. The traditionalist just like non-traditionalist will change their position when it comes to their close family and friends. .........
This is known as ஊருக்கு உபதேசம்! :blabla:
 
My guru says that before I get married I will have to be taken through all of the samskaras. ........
Dear Sankara,

SingArach Chennai 'sasthrigaL's are 'killAdi's (= experts!) in this subject! As I wrote earlier, they performed nAmakaraNam,

annaprAsanam, sacred thread cermony - all on the wedding day morning, for an American groom!

BTW, he was also named Shankar Sarma! :D
 
Dear Sankara,

SingArach Chennai 'sasthrigaL's are 'killAdi's (= experts!) in this subject! As I wrote earlier, they performed nAmakaraNam,

annaprAsanam, sacred thread cermony - all on the wedding day morning, for an American groom!

BTW, he was also named Shankar Sarma! :D

Mr. Shankar,
You need to contact Mts. Raji Ram, and all your problems will vanish.
 
One can analyze from the horoscope many factors. In fact the horoscope of a person can
predict about that persons life and his character, etc. Otherwise, it takes many years
to judge a person. It is difficult to have a judgment in spite of close relationship with a person,
when the matter of marriage comes up, because it is life long issue. If a person has his
correct horoscope, sometimes horoscopes are faked to match with some people, one can derive
some knowledge about that person in a matter of a few hours. It is therefore essential to
study the horoscope for the purpose of matching. Hence is considered as very vital for
successful marriages. Gothram is yet another factor to be considered, as the same Gothram would
mean brother and sister, because of the hereditary factor. Now a days, people do not
give cognizance to this factor.

Balasubramanian
Ambattur
 
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