Post # 125
If you say that homosexual relationship is perfectly normal/commonplace/natural etc. I have nothing to argue there. It is your belief and you are entitled to keep it.
Dear Sri Raju
Homosexual relationship is all around you all the way in the animal kingdom.
As a student when I learnt about such a possibility it was a bit shocking but I have met many otherwise fine human beings who cannot control which sex they are attracted to. It seems to me to be like our height, weight or skin color or place of birth etc. This is just my observation.
So they have no more control over their sense of attraction than any one else but they have a choice over their behaviour like we all do. They can choose a celibate life or they can choose to do something about their attraction. I have come across people that do no harm to anyone, have their private relationships and some even have 'artificial families'. I do not understand their relationships but I accept them wholeheartedly as human being for what they are. A few decades ago I may not have felt like this. But I see them as people like in any other walk of life which I see as my evolution in being more mature towards others and all beings (and by saying this I dont care to pass judgement on anyone - it is upto them how they want to feel about homosexuality) . Yes, homosexuality is uncommon but perfectly normal in my view based on limited contact of people who are homosexuals.
By the way the world has anywhere from 5% to 10% of homosexuals. This means some of your ancestors were homsexuals and even now in our own extended family and there will be some children born in your own lineage someday in the future. It is worth thinking about this...
Post # 124
You do not debate beliefs - and it is okay with me. You do not debate scientific facts too because they are not useful to you-and this too is okay with me. Well, it is your choice after all and I can do nothing about it.
You have been sincere in putting forth your ideas and so out of respect I wanted to respond and explain myself more.
I do not debate beliefs since there is no basis to debate any belief system.
My educational background is in Theoretical Physics. I left that for a profession and instead chose computer science and engineering and have been dumbed down over many decades by being in Management for too long according to my children
.. Still my standards of what I consider to be science is very strict and I do not expect others to agree with me. I do not consider psychology as science for example. I do have respect for the study such as the one you referred to and they have a value.
Just like a mushroom is neither a meat nor a vegetable they belong to a group of their own . Not sure if a vegetarian causes harm to any beings by eating mushrooms
Probably not, but it is not a vegetable. There was a recent Scientific American article about what Mushrooms are and concluded they are neither animals nor plants.
Some of the studies like the one you mentioned are not strict science but a reason based set of conclusions.
However in my view there are assumptions in your conclusions. One is that our ancestors were indeed practicing Satvic life style - they may be vegetarians but Sativic value is much more than that in my understanding. There is no evidence for that assumption and there will be no way to get such an evidence even if we were to think that the theory you cite is applicable here. There are many more assumptions like this and so there is no way to debate these assumptions.
Even if one were to believe we are endowed with raw material (of our bodies) the real goal of enlightenment will never be achieved by having such ideas in the mind. At some level mind becomes an impediment to growth and maturity. That is possibly one reason to reject such notions in my view. I do not expect agreement here
Regards
