Shri Ravi,
Man & woman are basically the same everywhere. There is no reason for us to believe that nature (or god, for those who may prefer that) has created men and women differently for different countries according to their S&P ratings.
agree with you here sangom. humans and human functionalities and needs are almost the same everywhere, giving some leeway for cultural stuff and some for weather. not whole ignorance. when i landed the first time back in india from canada, my male relative asked if white women had periods. he thought the cold weather prevented monthly cycles
in females. had to assure him that the women in canada had theirs as regularly as theie hot weathered sisters in india
My opinion is that in colder, temperate climates men do not get sexually aroused as easily and fast as in warmer, equatorial climates. That is one reason, reportedly, that most tourists flock towards the equator !!
now this one contradicts, atleast to me your first para. if they are the same, how can they be different in nature. personally i dont think you meant any humour, and dead serious about it. but i had a good chuckle and a hearty laugh because i found it hilarious. any of my oversexed friends here would compete for number of sessions per night with the most equatorial man, and give him a good run for his money.
the reason tourists flock warm weather places, and that too only in the winter when it is negative celsius here for months, is to have a touch of the sun on the skin. nothing more. nothing less. this i have to tell you, because i also go to warm weather places in the winter, and it is definitely not to get sexually aroused
Secondly in developed countries, those who are non-beneficiaries of their so-called development, like the African-Americans in US, have much the same kind of problems from unruly and wayward males, towards white females, I am told. But in US, there is not that kind of social stigma for a woman /girl who gets raped, as is the position in India. So, a good percentage of rapes may go unreported in US also.
this is news to the african americans (AA). those AA would be very surprised to hear this, and all those white perverts would start quoting you as their authority on black oversexiness, even causing the white men to assault to black women, so that they can get even. good logic.
social stigma? what is it? here the law is on the side of the victim, only recently. till then, the woman was humiliated in the courts by the lawyers, who first challenged her intentions, her appearance, her dress, and above all her state of mind (read consent). sounds familiar? all this has changed very recently, and that too is very shaky because there are always powerful men, even here, who would assault females, and try to get away with it.
Thirdly, today, because of the hullabaloo created about rape, and since the identities are not revealed, it is quite possible that there are cases of consensual sex but the same is made into a rape after the event. I am also not sure as to how far a medical examination can reveal whether the act was done with the consent of the girl/female, or whether it was done against her will. (India being what I know of it, even doctors may be there to certify rapes on being paid a sufficiently good "fees".)
i agree a sexual assault case is all biased against the woman. her privacy is invaded, and she has to be examined by strange doctors who give affadavits in the court. she is damaged mentally for life, and most of these victims, are so scared of men, that their future life is ruined. most of them need psychiatric help to even get sense of living. these have a resultant high rate of drug abuse and alcoholism, in addition to have lost the ability to trust and love women. so the doctors will certifiy to such a horrid state for good 'fees'? why would any woman want to do that?
I know my post above may not be liked by the rape-decriers (it is not that I justify rapes but this is just to denote the camp opposite to the so-called "rape-apologists".) but these are some of the down-to-earth points which one person sitting in India may have to consider.
i dont know about rape-decriers, but i certainly find not only inconsistencies in your post, but most of it, especially regarding western society is all a figment of imagination. society here is on the whole, more fair. i would say on the whole. still flawed, but not wholesale, when it comes to female sexual assault. oh yes, there are incidents of male assault too - teenage boys by their teachers.
dont know if the boys loved it, but the complaints usually came from the mother of the boys.
Our friends from US possibly think that everything is hunky-dory there even if women/girls go almost nude and so on & so forth. But casual sex, one-night-stands etc., are also very common there and so most of the menfolk who "may not find a bath room" (to quote one honourable member's words) may instead find a girl/woman without much difficulty, I should think. Hence our friends exhort us to come up to their country's standards. It is like richie-rich describing poverty!!
sangom, you appear to know so much american sociology - casual sex, one night stand etc are very common here
hate to disappoint you sir. these may exist, but no more than in many other countries including india. our middle class morality, in india, does a better job of cover up (pun intended here) and we are very comfortable having double values.
no matter what, i dont wish sexual assault, on anyone here or elsewhere, only because, irrespective of the culture, the damage done to the woman, is absolute. and even if she is burqaed, she gets assaulted, because i heard that it happens in arab countries too. and these are weatherwise hot!!!
i think you misunderstood, about anyone want to come to anyone's standards. what we want is for women folk to be protected from assault, same as menfolk insist that they be protected from pickpocket, murder and battery. women would like equal protection to their bodies, and because as a rule, they are weaker than the men, they need the support of the forces of law and order, and justice, to ensure their safety - if it cannot be done through education, let it be done through fear of tough punishment.
