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I am not a Vaishanavite preacher like that fellow Krishnan.

Oh, but you seem to be a saivaite... pray, tell me, is only a preacher subject to such scrutiny?

Are you not advocating saivism in this very forum? What makes you think that you can be a saivite and accept money from other communities, while you badmouth an SV on the very same lines?

 

[ashwin_ash]

Perhaps, you should have posted this in the jokes section...

You are indeed a joker and a clown, but you need not scream it out loud and ask me to highlight it. Everyone knows your caliber already.

 

[auh]

You are indeed a joker and a clown, but you need not scream it out loud.

Ok, I will accord you the honour of screaming yourself so...

You seem to be more interested in judging the face behind the comments rather than the merit of the comment. But then, nobody takes you seriously...

Relax.

 

[ashwin_ash]

I am not a Vaishanavite preacher like that fellow Krishnan.

Ever since Velukudi Krishnan's son became Abdullah, some people are speculating that Krishnan's activities are being funded by gulf money.

 

[ashwin_ash]

Ok, I will accord you the honour of screaming yourself so...

You seem to be more interested in judging the face behind the comments rather than the merit of the comment. But then, nobody takes you seriously...

Relax.

You are indeed a nobody. You don't have to take anyone seriously, for that matter.

 

[ashwin_ash]

I am not a Vaishanavite preacher like that fellow Krishnan.

Someone should ask that Krishnan the question, Ghulam Kader-kum Gokulashtami-kum enna sammandham?

 

[auh]

Someone should ask that Krishnan the question, Ghulam Kader-kum Gokulashtami-kum enna sammandham?

Why dont you go and ask him? And then clarify to the rest of this forum, and perhaps, the world?

 

[CHANDRU1849]

Oh, but you seem to be a saivaite... pray, tell me, is only a preacher subject to such scrutiny?

Are you not advocating saivism in this very forum? What makes you think that you can be a saivite and accept money from other communities, while you badmouth an SV on the very same lines?

Have you come across any Saivite preacher speaks and behaves like that fellow Krishnan?

Majority of Saivites are very liberals and not like Vaishnavites. I can be sure that if a Saivite accepts money from non-Saivites definitely he will not speak against them. There is no necessity for Saivites to tell funny war mongering stories and get support. Saivites attach importance to God loving and not God men loving and there are excellent Books available in Saivism to preach.

If Smarthas and Sankara Mutts also start following their sambradaya veru severely like Iyengars / Vaishanavites, the importance given to Rama, Krishna, Ramayana, Mahabharatha, Gita, Tirupavai etc. would have been definitely less, as compared to what is prevalent today.

Saivites are extremely well behaved and highly secular.

 

[auh]

You are indeed a nobody. You don't have to take anyone seriously, for that matter.

Ha ha... nice going... keep up the tempo.

 

[auh]

Have you come across any Saivite preacher speaks and behaves like that fellow Krishnan?

Majority of Saivites are very liberals and not like Vaishnavites. I can be sure that if a Saivite accepts money from non-Saivites definitely he will not speak against them. There is no necessity for Saivites to tell funny war mongering stories and get support. Saivites attach importance to God loving and not God men loving and there are excellent Books available in Saivism to preach.

If Smarthas and Sankara Mutts also start following their sambradaya veru severely like Iyengars / Vaishanavites, the importance given to Rama, Krishna, Ramayana, Mahabharatha, Gita, Tirupavai etc. would have been definitely less, as compared to what is prevalent today.

Saivites are extremely well behaved and highly secular.

Sir, you probably are aware of the Siva and Skanda puranas. Almost all of them seem like a counter, placing Vishnu at a lower level. I think Shri Krishnaswamy Iyengar who does the "Sudarsana/Nrhsimha Priya" has proven that these saivaite puranas are at best stories and were meant only to counter the SVs. (Not that I am commenting on the SV puranas).

But by and large I have seen Veerasaivars who have an extreme view. There are these Aadeenams who are not very tolerant. I have visited the Perur Aadenam and its facilities there (courtesy: a friend who is close to them). I have seen many brahmins (some among my relations) who are staunch devotees of Siva and abhor Narayana. "Sarvam Sree Krishnaarpanamasthu" is probably best described as a lip service in such cases.

I would gently correct this statement "Majority of Saivites are very liberals and not like Vaishnavites" to "Majority of Smarthas are very liberals and are unlike Sri Vaishnavas or Veera Saivars".

Saivites are extremely well behaved and highly secular.

This is something that is not the exclusivity of Saivites.

 

[ashwin_ash]

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Originally Posted by ashwin_ash
Someone should ask that Krishnan the question, Ghulam Kader-kum Gokulashtami-kum enna sammandham?


Why dont you go and ask him? And then clarify to the rest of this forum, and perhaps, the world?​

Auh,

Since your sympathies lie more with muslims, Velukudi will be glad to clarify your islamic doubts, with divine guidance from his guru Sri Rahman-ujacharya.

 

[auh]

Since your sympathies lie more with muslims, Velukudi will be glad to clarify your islamic doubts, with divine guidance from his guru Sri Rahman-ujacharya.

I had a hearty laugh on seeing the above inane post.

 

[CHANDRU1849]

Sir, you probably are aware of the Siva and Skanda puranas. Almost all of them seem like a counter, placing Vishnu at a lower level. I think Shri Krishnaswamy Iyengar who does the "Sudarsana/Nrhsimha Priya" has proven that these saivaite puranas are at best stories and were meant only to counter the SVs. (Not that I am commenting on the SV puranas).

But by and large I have seen Veerasaivars who have an extreme view. There are these Aadeenams who are not very tolerant. I have visited the Perur Aadenam and its facilities there (courtesy: a friend who is close to them). I have seen many brahmins (some among my relations) who are staunch devotees of Siva and abhor Narayana. "Sarvam Sree Krishnaarpanamasthu" is probably best described as a lip service in such cases.

I would gently correct this statement "Majority of Saivites are very liberals and not like Vaishnavites" to "Majority of Smarthas are very liberals and are unlike Sri Vaishnavas or Veera Saivars".
This is something that is not the exclusivity of Saivites.

Puranas will always talk high of the concerned sect. It is not new. What about Valmiki Ramayana. Has it not insulted Ravanan, a Siva devotee. What is the significance of Vishnu Sahasranamam in Mahabharath. Was it not inserted?

Have you come across any Head of Saiva Mutt spoken very bad of god men Krishna, Rama?

There are no Smarthas in Tamil Nadu now. They are Advaithis, indirectly converted by Sankara Mutts.

As far as Hindu Religion is concerned, Saivites in Tamil Nadu are very liberal and highly secular. Vaishnavites must put their head down in this aspect.

 

[tbs]

hi sir,

There are no Smarthas in Tamil Nadu now. They are Advaithis, indirectly converted by Sankara Mutts.

its wrong....we belong to smarthas....but we are not advaitins..........we put NAMAM as well as FOLLOW SRI RANGAM PANCHANGAM...

we are not belong to sankara mutts......vishnu is our kuladeivam ...but we follow vaishnavism as well as saivism....just info...

 

[CHANDRU1849]

hi sir,

There are no Smarthas in Tamil Nadu now. They are Advaithis, indirectly converted by Sankara Mutts.

its wrong....we belong to smarthas....but we are not advaitins..........we put NAMAM as well as FOLLOW SRI RANGAM PANCHANGAM...

we are not belong to sankara mutts......vishnu is our kuladeivam ...but we follow vaishnavism as well as saivism....just info...

Smarthas should not put Namam. The presiding deity of Smarthas is Lord Shiva.

One of my room mates, who belonged to Srirangam, was from Brahacharanam Sect. But his father name was Rangachari. Some Iyers from Brahacharanam in and around Trichy and Srirangam got converted to Vaishnavism. However, my room mate followed only Smartha principle and put Vibhudhi only and not Namam like you.

You please contact a good Smartha Pandit and get proper explanation on Smartha Principles.

 

[Raji Ram]

Whatever be the smarthA principles, there exists a group of Iyers known as 'keeththu nAmakkArA'. :thumb:

 

[tbs]

Smarthas should not put Namam. The presiding deity of Smarthas is Lord Shiva.

One of my room mates, who belonged to Srirangam, was from Brahacharanam Sect. But his father name was Rangachari. Some Iyers from Brahacharanam in and around Trichy and Srirangam got converted to Vaishnavism. However, my room mate followed only Smartha principle and put Vibhudhi only and not Namam like you.

You please contact a good Smartha Pandit and get proper explanation on Smartha Principles.

hi
if you dont know... just read Mrs RR madam's explanation....just understand ur ignorance....dont give general statement

without knowing anything.....we are VADAMA IYERS of smartha sect...just info....

Whatever be the smarthA principles, there exists a group of Iyers known as 'keeththu nAmakkArA'.

​

 

[Raji Ram]

The level of education is going up and all girls have master's and doctorate degrees and draw handsome salaries. Most of them come under what is known as

'high bracket income'. The 'house wife' concept is vanishing. But some of our boys are unable to accept this and need someone to take care of the house and

their parents! Hence a brahmin girl chooses a guy from any community, who is independent and without any commitments like supporting his siblings / parents.

And, those born and brought up in North India wish to marry someone well versed in Hindi and the Tambrams settled in the South lose their chance!

One girl refused to proceed with an alliance because in the conversation, they guy exclaimed several times saying 'ammaAdiyOv!!

 

[Raji Ram]

A tambram guy married a high caste NB girl who comes from an affluent family! In the reception dinner, except dhOsA, thayir sAdham and some pickles,

all others were non.veg dishes! I was surprise to find that many from the groom's side did NOT feel bad about the arrangement and enjoyed many items!

I had to eat the above said veg. items and top up with some ice cream!

 

[tks]

Smarthas should not put Namam. The presiding deity of Smarthas is Lord Shiva.

One of my room mates, who belonged to Srirangam, was from Brahacharanam Sect. But his father name was Rangachari. Some Iyers from Brahacharanam in and around Trichy and Srirangam got converted to Vaishnavism. However, my room mate followed only Smartha principle and put Vibhudhi only and not Namam like you.

You please contact a good Smartha Pandit and get proper explanation on Smartha Principles.

Do you know why our Vedic tradition supports wearing a Namam, Kunkuma Pottu or whatever for men and women? The exact form may be varied based on tradition and local customs. My question to you is to describe the overall (and profound) significance of this practice across all sects of Hindus.

 

[indianassault]

Saivites are extremely well behaved and highly secular.

Yes absolutely. I always found Iyengar girls more beautiful .

I am curious to know what is Vadama, Brahacharyam and Arthasastha etc ..My mother was particular about even those things..

 

[indianassault]

I don't understand why you have a problem with that. Vaagmi's posting was obscene and profane. He can air his views in other forums which might suit his style.

Nara was different. As I already said, he was a breath of smelly air. Makes you notice and ponder. We only have the sugary sweet ones in these forums nowadays. Acerbic comments are also part of healthy discourse.

Sorry, not being picky, but just a thought that came at that point. Nara was good, but he never answered on some posts on why he was against Hindu nationalists. I asked him what the secular citizens lost during 98-04 and what they gained from 04 till now.

 

[tks]

I know there are some posts about Sri Nara - and he for whatever reason is not posting anymore.
In general discussion/criticism of his and any of our posts are fine in my view but negative comments about anyone as a person is not conducive to good discussions. I am sure we can agree on this

I just want to make a few points - No one can chase anyone away. People leave on their own mainly because of a sense self-imagined importance. For anyone that think they are important I have a scientific test to prove that.

Take a tumbler of water, sit as if you are going to do Sandhyavandanam. Take your ring finger and dip it in the water and pull you finger. Observe the water. If there is still a hole where your finger was you are indeed important

If not you are like any of us!

People may leave because they repeatedly break few simple rules of a forum. In this forum that is handled in the most liberal manner. The banning seem to be only on a given nick/moniker/avatar. Not on the person. They can create another account name and start all over and even allude to their Purvashrama with a different nick/moniker... No one seem to mind and original admiration society can be remade. But with new nick they should follow the few simple rules.

So there is no reason for anyone to be 'chased away.

Being chased away also implies someone is a victim and a loser so we dont want to think like that..

 

[sravna]

Yes absolutely. I always found Iyengar girls more beautiful .

I am curious to know what is Vadama, Brahacharyam and Arthasastha etc ..My mother was particular about even those things..

Let me add that Iyengar girls are more beautiful in general but the there are more most beautiful among the iyer girls. similarly I would say that Iyengar boys are smarter than Iyer boys in general but again there are more smartest among the Iyer boys. This is just my pet belief.

 

[sangom]

You may be right. But Sangom had no business in bad mouthing Sringeri or Kanchi Sankaracharya or Nara bad mouthing Jeeyars or his favourite flog horse weekend brahmins in this forum when they are not present in the forum.

People who wish to stay in glass houses should not begin throwing stones.

I don't remember my bad-mouthing the Sringeri acharyas; of course I criticized the Satachandee Homa performed in c/w the birthday of the present pontiff of Sringeri and the large number of jackfruit trees which were felled for the purpose.

Regarding the Kanchi mutt, I have my own reservations about its genuineness itself as also its two known pontiffs - Chandrasekharendra and Jayendra. I know there are quite a good number of tabras who have similar views but do not dare to voice these publicly for fear of any supernatural powers which these (two) pontiffs may/might have had. I feel it is necessary that in a forum like this the true faces of such personalities are brought out, much in the same way as the hypocrisy of Velukkudi is being analyzed here. Since I have no data or info about Velukkudi I am not contributing, but I am learning.

I am living (not 'staying') in a concrete house. I do not throw stones, but if others start feeling like throwing stones, I don't think my house will crumble.