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is it possible to convert into a brahmin ?

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thank you but i would really not consider the first point simply because she strongly feels that im the one that's gonna be hurt by this and that she does not want that. she tells me that her parents would let her be a spinster than to get married to a non-brahmin. and she defiantly is gonna stay that way. im wondering if there will come a time where her parents will not want to let go of their dreams of getting their daughter married and will end up saying "ok...fine...marry who you wish for! " ....
reading scripts and vedas are never really going to be a problem for me. im very much interested in all these. infact i would read them for passion itself.
her parents are very modern. the ONLY thing is this 'no marriage against cast' thing :(
it not more like she chose her parents above me. it's more like she does not want me to go through all of this just for her. i understand that for a harmonious married life all this matters. that's the only reason i think so much!! i dont want her to be hurt of anything i do. i even gave her the choice to leave me just because i din want her to go through all this dilemma and worries and 'getting the brain eaten up' by this!!
and i kind of admire the way you brahmins maintain culture at it's heights. i always am a person who tries a lot to preserve culture but also am very strong of opposing practices that simply have no meaning and very well accept the adaptation we must learn from the mixed cultured society.

anyways,
thanks a lot sir :)
 
yea....i kno !! xD
i wish it was as simple as just getting to know the vedas and adding a few more practices to my routine which i would do with all happiness !! :)
 
i can figure out that you are a very knowledgeable person.
i would do anything and everything that takes to show that my love for her and her love for me is for true and is a very beautiful thing and i know it :)
 
uh...the thing is that...her father is a verrry nice person who does not really deserve to be hurt in this way. and if i had asd her to come with me leaving everything behind...she would've. i dont want her to feel about it later....obviously she's going to be hurt and i cant stand that !! only because of this... im trying hard to find a way to solve this.
 
haha....that was precise but said it all. this was kind of exactly what he mom was telling me...knowing that her daughter is in love with this non-brahmin guy and assuming that it's not me !! haha xD
uh...we both so far have not really had any ego clashes atall....she does not really care about the cast this either!!...and she herself confesses that even her dad wont practice most of the rituals a brahmin should...so it's not really gonne be like im totally neglecting my own practices...just that im adding a few more...just a few (not ALL :P ) :D
 
uh...this might work but that small hurt of leaving her family...her mother (well she does not really like her mother)...her brother (who she adores) and most importantly her dad (who she looooves...but not more that me (she said that) ) ....i don want her to be hurt even the slightest....that is why im taking the troubles to solve this as smoothly as i possible. she would not refuse to come with me if i call her !!
 
i think you'r my long lost brother (lucky enough...you'r a brahmin...)...coz this is exactly wat i told her!!...when people marry across religions and still manage to work things out...this should not be a problem at'all !!...but then...she would understand...but not her parents !! :( ...their modern and well adapted ....only thing is that their son-in-law should be a brahmin!!... :/ in dont understand why they consider the cast soo much and about their social image more that their own daughter's happiness :/
 
as far as i've seen ....you been the one who really kind of sorted out things in my head!! thanks a ton for that !! :D
uh...the thing is that...i din force her atall...infact in those 2 years i.e, after i proposed to her....and she refused...i never asked her out again...i just made sure that she knew that i still love her..and ONLY her !! ....i very much believe that love cant be forced...and you dont really choose who you fall in love with and it never happen the way you want it to be!! (that's exactly why i dont believe in arranged marriage :P ) ....
oh yes....i for sure know that this brain of a woman is a VEEERYY complicated/sophisticated machine :P
god....you...you'r really deyvam only like i said earlier !!....pha... actually true...but im sure there's never gonna be a situation where im gonna leave her just like that unless im dead :/ (pretty strong words ....i kno..but thats the truth). lets imagine a situation where she wants to leave...or to the least of possibilities....i wanna leave.....i'll make sure she is not in a state where she is left with none to support...or even if i want to leave...i'd stay only coz she would'n have anyone to support (if there are none)....
and again....please dont worry....im not gonna be mad at you ATALL xD ;)
and...yes...i don like asking that question to her...but i think you have a point there....but i think it's only gonna get her furious...(n she'ss start hitting be with those pillows which she thinks are gonna hurt me xD) ...she looooves her dad way too much...but there was this time when she told me she loves and trust me more than her dad. only that gave me the courage to fight this thing out and not to ask her to run away with me !! :)

anyway ...thanks again !! :)
 
illa sir...she also loves me ....she is also willing to run away with me and get married....but i kno it still leaves a scar. i don want her to be hurt even the least...that is why i chose to face n fight this problem !! :)
i'm sure i'll win....
ennoda kadhal unmai sir :')
 
renuka said:
Actually the answer for his conversion is very simple...One should remember that when a Vadakalai views a Thenkalai with suspicion that the Thenakalais were Once Upon Time Non Brahmins converted into Iyengarism...does a Non Brahmin at present think that he can actually convert to Iyengarism?LOL

When the "U" and the "Y" could not see eye to eye and dragged a pachyderm to the legal arena..does any NB expect to be accepted as an Iyengar?? GOVINDA GOOOOOOVINDA!LOL
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I think Sri Vaagmi has answered what it means to convert in post #65 to any caste (expanding his thought to any caste). We do not have a central authority for any practice among Hindus. There is no one to issue certificate or take that away.

There is no need to pick on sub-section of any group. Human beings have created in the past, continue to create and will always create new divisions. Behavior of people, especially immature acts by those who claim to practice the traditions of any group cannot be used to apply broad based castigation on the whole theology. Swami Vivekananda in one of his address has made this point extremely well. I am unable to cite the specific lecture.

There are well thought out doctrinal differences between Vada Kalai and Then Kalai followers. As an outsider I have deep respect to the thought that has gone behind those differences.

I think discussion about theology and doctrines are fair game but not about people who 'belong' to any section and I am certainly against any generalizations because they tend to be not arising out of broad mind.
 
im taking my MBBS studies now and im quiet good at my studies. with it im sure to make a living and obviously take care of her very well !! my parents are both doctors who have really made it good in the field. im sure to get a job at a hospital. even if i cannot her the best i can give her the most!!....i kno i can make her happy. even if i lose my job i'll have my clinic to run a living. and since my parents have really made it big...im sure to have good guidance as to how i can maneuver cross the usual obstacles infant doctors face. so their parents dont really have to worry about that!!
 
thats true...even if i was a chaiwala and she had married me...i wud've worked as much as i possibly could to keep her at a better place !!....but she prefers staying beside me and considers it to be the most heavenly of all others !! :)
 
hmm....i very clearly know that because she does not want me to go through all this hardships. she's willing to sacrifice her love n happiness so i would not have to suffer. i kno that because i've seen true love in her eyes sir :) and i wont...cant doubt it :)
 
i belong to the agamudayar community sir...but currently i am not...coz i lost my 'agam' to her...
( agam-udayar: a person who has a heart) :)
i dont really give importance to the way the marriage is done...infact i want it the iyangar way. i loove iyengar weddings. they'r a lot more grand and have a lot of interesting things to do. so i might even force my parents to get me married the iyengar way but for sure would'n ask her family to do it our traditional way :D
sir....my name is KAILASH KRISHNAN....i'm of the god himself...you see him as siva...then im kailash...you see him as vishnu...then im krishnan !! :)
hari'yum siva'num onnu'dhaana sir :)
 
theyvameee....where wer you all this time :D...haha..now i can see the light at the end of the tunnel :D :D :D
well...what if they claim im not of a pure blood-line and that they wont accept me :/
and if a brahmin family is to adopt me....should i like let go of mine :O ...
 
actually i had this reaction on my face that in consider priceless when i read all about converting and the process...
i'd rather just get register married like you said...n i'l go tell the parents...and if they now really care about their social image...they'll not want to tell it outside and arrange for a proper marriage as if it was all so perfect and they had no objection at'all !! ;)
wow....haha... ;) xD
 
you have your own wonderful theories....n i do verymuch admire them ...haha...
im a biology student and i can clearly relate to it...haha...
but more in terms of biology...only if you cross with various communities...you tend to weave in the best of your adaptations to survive and your progeny tends to be the fittest. im sure you wud'v heard of the belief the marriage within the family (like a close relative) might result in deformed or mentally/physically ill children. it's is infact true n is proved theoretically and also practically.
so mayb i can talk about this in a scientific way to her parents and make them realize that 'cross-breeding' is the most beneficial ;)
(you can google how effective cross breeding is in a community to survive n become the fittest :D ;) )
 
oh god...you truely dont kno how many of these posts i have answered....
it's not that she does not wanna go with me n get married....she does not want me to go through all this and that she is willing to sacrifice her happiness and her love itself for a lifetime for it. i dont want to just take her away n marry her. even if she's happy...that small hurt of leaving her loved family will always be there....i don want her to be hurt atall...so im trying my best to sort it out. n she for sure dosn really care about the cast n things....it's only her parents !!....
 
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